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General => Health & Sports => Topic started by: DisorderlyConductor on February 07, 2009, 11:40:25 AM

Title: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: DisorderlyConductor on February 07, 2009, 11:40:25 AM
I know my Maple Leafs suck. It's no surprise we suck. But talk to me in 3 years when Hagman is at the end of his contract and our boys we already got (Schenn, Kulemin, Hayes, Porno Boy and Pogge {Rask is still the better prospect}) are solid. I am assuming of course that Burke is bringing some guys that will have more impact on the ice than Brad May (WTF? Interim Captain? WTF?)

The Sharks have their work cut out (Joe Thornton is gonna need to put the team on his shoulders for the last two rounds of the playoffs) for them making it past the second round this year, the West is stacked like usual. Detroit, Calgary, and Chi-town are going to make it spicy, I'm not convinced the Stars have recovered from Sean Avery yet until they put together a pair of solid roadtrips. If Sundin ever figures out what he's really supposed to be doing on the ice, the Canucks are going to be deadly offensively with a goalie good enough to cover the ineptitude of the D. Minnesota is my wild card but without Gaborik I don't see them mounting the offence they need despite their league leading defence.

The East is still pretty even. What the hell happened in Ottawa though? I already knew that the Isles were managed like poop (Garth Snow fer fraks sakes) but Bryan Murray is going to be looking for a new job at the end of the year. At the trade deadline if Melnyk knew what he was doing. But he don't! Florida is the surprise this year, I'm kinda hoping that they'll get a couple of rounds into the playoffs so that the hockey bug infests the area a little stronger. I swear tho that most their season ticket holders die off at a pretty steady pace. AO is still my favourite player and the Caps is dangerous. Boston has decent odds of going to the Finals so long as Chara stays healthy. Jersey is only going to get better once Brodeur gets back, and that's going to be ridiculous. Brent Sutter is the motherfuckin' man. Montreal, for some reason seems to be having a crisis along with the Rangers and Philly just doesn't seem to have the scoring. Pittsburgh has two problems. Sidney Crosby is a frakin pansy, and Malkin doesn't know enough English to lead the room. Seen Tavares?

Tonights Games
Philadelphia   at   Boston*
Edmonton   at   Detroit*
Anaheim*   at   Calgary
Toronto   at   Montreal*
Buffalo*   at   Ottawa
Los Angeles*   at   New Jersey
Florida*   at   Washington
San Jose*   at   Columbus
NY Islanders*   at   Tampa Bay
Colorado   at   St. Louis*
Carolina*   at   Phoenix
Chicago*   at   Vancouver

*I think they should win.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: whidB on February 07, 2009, 06:05:29 PM
What I don't understand is why they aren't the Maple LEAVES?

:bolt:
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: DisorderlyConductor on February 08, 2009, 06:44:36 PM
I've wondered that before too. I figure because players would tell people "Yeah I'm a Maple Leave" and that would sound... weird.

My picks were brutal!


Philadelphia   at   Boston* X
Edmonton   at   Detroit* $
Anaheim*   at   Calgary $
Toronto   at   Montreal* X (Schenn!)
Buffalo*   at   Ottawa X
Los Angeles*   at   New Jersey $
Florida*   at   Washington X
San Jose*   at   Columbus X (WTF?)
NY Islanders*   at   Tampa Bay X
Colorado   at   St. Louis* $
Carolina*   at   Phoenix $
Chicago*   at   Vancouver X

5 right 7 wrong =suck.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on September 30, 2009, 07:19:27 PM
da da da da da da da da da da HEY...... da da da da da da da da HEY....

NHL season starts tomorrow.

http://tinyurl.com/55wzla
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Talix on October 01, 2009, 09:21:46 AM
Maybe I'll try to pay attention to the whole season this year!
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 01, 2009, 09:34:55 AM
A Canadian film crew was in San Jose covering the Heatley trade. One of the journalists suggested that he chose to go to California because there wasn't as much attention from the fans and therefore not as much pressure to perform well. :nonplused:

That's some kind of record for insulting everyone at once. Good thing he was talking to Thornton at the time, I think Heatley might not have taken it very well :galm:

http://www.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_13458834


Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on October 01, 2009, 10:30:50 AM
Heatley is a bag of shit. He goes high in the draft, he murders a teammate, he underperforms in Ottawa (arguably a good thing for Leafs fans) and he requests a trade when they pare back his responsibilities. I think it's fair to assume he wants to go to a town where hockey isn't as big a culture as it is in Ontario. He was under the media spotlight 24 hrs a day here. He won't get that coverage on the sunny left coast.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 01, 2009, 11:21:08 AM
I missed the whole "murdered a teammate" part. How in hell did he get a visa?  :harumph:
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on October 01, 2009, 11:26:24 AM
I missed the whole "murdered a teammate" part. How in hell did he get a visa?  :harumph:

 :lol: HAHAHAHA. SEE??? Californians aren't up on their hockey. hahaha    ;)
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 01, 2009, 11:36:26 AM
:flipper: knows better than I do ;)
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 01, 2009, 11:39:19 AM
Edit: Oh, that Heatley.

That's effing loathsome. Agreed on the shit. Do not want.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: flipper on October 01, 2009, 11:59:52 AM
If he brings the Sharks the cup, no problem here :galm: 

But beside all that, I don't think it was the best of moves.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on October 02, 2009, 10:04:44 AM
The new US ambassador to Canada just addressed the media after being received by the Governor General. He was asked general questions about border security, Buy America provisions, Afghanistan - and whether or not he's a hockey fan. hahaha
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on October 10, 2009, 09:57:45 AM
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/nhl/article/708405--night-out-with-the-leafs-priciest-in-nhl-at-585
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 01, 2010, 12:48:55 AM
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/juniorhockey/article/744849--canadian-juniors-beat-u-s-in-shootout?bn=1
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Tripper on January 02, 2010, 10:55:13 PM
Hockey, that's on ice with sticks right?
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 03, 2010, 07:21:53 PM
Watching the Canada vs Switzerland semi final game. I really have no idea what attracts young people to play at this level when it's obvious the 60-70 year old men who make the decisions about hockey don't care about your safety. A Canadian was just boarded - checked from behind head first into the boards and knocked out. The punishement? A 2 minute penalty. There was a player at BU 10-15 years ago who was paralyzed and nearly died after being boarded.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: flipper on January 04, 2010, 12:58:20 PM
Hockey, that's on ice with sticks right?

Atlanta has an NHL team.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Tripper on January 04, 2010, 04:12:25 PM
They call it that sometimes.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Hedaira on January 04, 2010, 04:50:04 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 04, 2010, 07:51:50 PM
:lol:


Damn it, I'm sitting in bed eating a big bowl of rice, and now there's rice everywhere.  It's in my ThinkPad's keyboard, even. 

Oy.

Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 05, 2010, 10:44:34 PM
Ugh. Bloody Americans.

I'm sure it won't even be reported on in your media either!

Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 05, 2010, 11:07:20 PM
In our media?  Let me put it this way:  I don't follow hockey, certainly, but I at least scan quite a few different news sources, and I didn't really realize there was any big international hockey anything aside from the Olympics.  So "Canada vs Switzerland semi final game" is kind of a surprise to me.  Interesting enough, but Hockey Mom (aka Chicks With Sticks) probably represents half of my exposure to Canadian hockey.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: First Post on January 06, 2010, 12:35:25 AM
Hell of a game tho. In the JTV chat people were all "Oh they yanked their goalie, you should never do that, we win" and then the guy pretty much stood on his head. Weird night for the tenders on both sides, but still very entertaining all the way to the end. Vancouver should be interesting!

Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 06, 2010, 10:12:07 AM
In our media?  Let me put it this way:  I don't follow hockey, certainly, but I at least scan quite a few different news sources, and I didn't really realize there was any big international hockey anything aside from the Olympics.  So "Canada vs Switzerland semi final game" is kind of a surprise to me.  Interesting enough, but Hockey Mom (aka Chicks With Sticks) probably represents half of my exposure to Canadian hockey.

World Juniors happen every year starting Christmas Day running until around now. It's an under-20 tournament. Most of the biggest names in NHL hockey cut their teeth in the big leagues in this tournament. Pretty much all the players from Canada and the US and a lot of the Europeans play in the minor North American leagues and are draft picks by NHL squads. By the time you are playing in the WJC you've pretty much made it.

And, because I doubt you'll hear it anywhere else - the USA won the championship last night, beat Canada 6-5 in overtime.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 06, 2010, 10:14:15 AM
Aaaand the WJC always takes place in Canada. It started as the Canada Cup in the 70s and 80s and has morphed from a select invitational to a relatively large format with European and Asian teams mixed in with Canada and the US.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2010, 10:26:52 AM
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Most of the biggest names in NHL hockey

:hmm:

[names NHL players he knows]

Bobby Orr

Wayne Gretzky

That guy named Satan



Alas, I'm out.  I'm aware that we beat the Russians in an Olympic game that took place in a stirring film.  When I was a kid, some neighbors of ours were fairly closely related somehow to the owner of the Flyers, but that was before the Rand Wars, and I'm not even objectively sure if he's still alive.


I'd probably watch more hockey except that, as I've said, I can't see the puck on TV, and my feeling is that they have to control the violence.  Not necessarily eliminate it, but control it.  If the fighting isn't allowed, then cut down on it and make the penalties serious.  If the fight's allowed, then fit it into the rules and enforce them.

This may be a basketball prejudice, though.  When you get bent out of shape because a defender got away with tugging on a player's jersey when he was going to the hoop, it's hard to accept a guy getting away with punching another player's helmet right off his head.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: First Post on January 06, 2010, 05:12:10 PM
Meanwhile you can ask pretty much any Canadian about Paul Henderson and they'll know what's up, even though that was almost forty years ago. Plus I don't think too many American homes are "adopting" junior league players and taking them in like up there, so yeah it's a long way from the kind of acceptance one finds up north.

It got a brief mention somewhere in the middle of Sportscenter, but the yelling-at-each-other afternoon sports shows are all about the Arenas gun thing and the Texas Tech coach Gitmo debacle (the kid's dad is an ESPN analyst so they're on his side. The general public is all "he had it comin', let Pirate Coach do his thing" like Bush apologists. But hey, they loved Bobby Knight out there too).

Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2010, 06:30:52 PM
The Arenas thing is crazy.  The early reports said Crittenton had a gun in his locker, too, and pointed it at Arenas (first? second?), but Crittenton doesn't seem to be in trouble.  If it turned out he didn't have a gun, I haven't seen that yet.  Not that I'm defending Arenas.  I can imagine being a dumbass and bringing unloaded guns from home and dumping them in your locker.  Stupid, but comprehensible.  Pointing them at a teammate in an argument over money is retarded, and Arenas, for all his talent, often seems a tad dumb.


Hockey's at least a more international game.  Basketball's come a long way, but it's not there yet.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 06, 2010, 06:49:04 PM
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Hockey's at least a more international game.  Basketball's come a long way, but it's not there yet.

The year they allowed professionals to play Olympic basketball (the year the games were in Barcelona) Charles Barkley was asked why the US team was staying in a 5 star hotel and not in the Athletes' Village and he said that he wasn't there for any Olympic spirit nonsense or to meet people from other countries. He was there to win his Olympic gold medal and go home. I think about the amateurs that have struggled their whole lives for that shot, and then missed it because and they couldn't get enough sponsors. And I think of 'King' Charles and it makes me sick. International basketball DOES have a long way to go before it has any credibility.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2010, 07:20:21 PM
Barkley is Barkley . . . he's not primarily an ambassador of goodwill, I agree.  I thought he showed poorer sportsmanship when he unnecessarily fouled some much lighter guy (from the Angolan team?) and knocked him right off the court.

That year, though, the US Olympic team was specifically put together to kick every other team's ass and demonstrate that, screw you, it's our game and we're the best at it.  Some of the players on the team were better sports about it, but that was the line from the top on down.  It wasn't pretty.  It soured a lot of NBA players on the Olympics, too, and now many of them just regard it as having to play extra games for no $$$ and risk getting injured.  For the most part, only the foreign players who can play for their home countries seem really interested -- and it's sometimes costly for them to participate.  (See Yao Ming's career issues, for instance.)

Right now, the NBA is pushing hard to get into other markets before they can develop their own corporate-competitive organizations.  It's not really clear how it would work, though.  You can't have the Lakers flying to Japan and Europe two dozen times a season for regular games, but the playoffs would almost entirely have to be in the US, in the near future, to avoid marketing disasters.  And the seeding would be tough.

Ironically, the highest plus-minus / impact player in the NBA right now is a foreigner (Dirk Nowitzki, a German player).  (LeBron is either two or three right now.  Kobe actually isn't in the top ten, per most statistics authorities, mostly because the Lakers have so many good players.)  

And one of my all-time favorite players is Steve Nash . . . the Canadian superstar.  Endlessly entertaining to watch, that guy.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 06, 2010, 09:47:58 PM
I have to admit, I don't watch basketball at all. My old roommate years ago was a producer for the Raptors. We used to have a nintendo in our place and I'd always kick his ass at EA NBA. He'd get all upset cos' I'd tell him how stupid basketball was and then whoop him at the video game. I recall he once woke me up at three in the morning on a weeknight to play. He later admitted he thought my grogginess would be my ruin, but it was not so. hahaha. I think it's probably a much more fun game to play than watch, like baseball or golf.

And as for the b-ball pros assembled to win, and bringing this back to hockey - the NHLers all stay in the Olympic village yo. But it could be cos the 600 sq. ft. units are nicer than their own homes back in rural Manitoba...
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2010, 10:51:55 PM
:lol:

But I don't just mean they went to win.  The league's only half-unspoken attitude was that the goal that year was to make the rest of the world look junky.  Their feeling seemed to be that the US didn't usually really try, and so people didn't realize how awesome we were, and so just this once we were going to put it all together and show everyone how much they suck by comparison.

In some circumstances, there's a certain amount of room for that kind of sentiment, but it was just ugly in that case.  Great team, though -- twelve players, ten of whom have since been voted among the top 50 ever to play basketball.  Jordan, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson?  Not to mention Stockton, David Robinson, and Drexler, Barkley and Ewing, Scottie Pippen.  They won every game, by a minimum of 32 points and an average of 44 points.  It was mayhem, and I'm sure it was hard for them to keep perspective.

And if you're a fan of a sport, it's combat, sure, but underneath you know it's not really combat, and getting the greats from different teams that hate each other to come together on one special team, to play together, just this once . . . it's like a Christmas truce between the trenches.  It's the feel-good movie of the season.

But if the Germans and Brits get together on Christmas not to play soccer but to team up and burn Belgium to the ground, it's not as romantic, somehow.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Tripper on January 07, 2010, 11:06:43 AM
I remember Spud Webb when he played for Atlanta (85-91, 95-96).  The man had flubber in his shoes or something because he was 5' 7" and had a vertical leap of over 42".  In 86 he won the Slam Dunk contest, beating his Hawks teammate Dominique Wilkins.  'Nique just stood on the sidelines slackjawed watching him.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 07, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
Letters to the editor:

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Gotta say, one day you're at the world juniors marvelling at that level of fierce competition and talent, and the next you're watching the Leafs and Flyers and thinking you've dropped into a WWE show.

You'll have to explain to me somehow how 17-, 18- and 19-year-olds can compete on a world stage with such a high level of sportsmanship and clean play, but the NHL can deliver such a piece of low-class, Slapshot-style competition as was the case last night.

I mean, really, Dan Carcillo is much more professional wrestler than pro hockey player, complete with the gimmicks and trash talk. He's Sideshow Bob II, and let's face it, the NHL promoted his act at the “Winter Classic” — commentators were seriously suggesting the first fight at this event was some kind of milestone — and Carcillo's figuring out that being a clown will get him more attention than playing hockey ever will. His act won't last long in Philly, but he'll get the most attention he can while he's there.

This, needless to say, is a problem the NHL runs into when its brand of sports entertainment s juxtaposed with the world juniors or, as will be the case next month, the Olympics. By comparison, the NHL looks mechanical, passion-less and full of phony theatrics.

Sad thing is, this is where so many of those fine youngsters who competed in that glorious gold medal game on Tuesday in Saskatoon are headed. Whether they want to or not, they'll be playing in a league that in mid-season too often is part-hockey, part-Gong Show.


http://thestar.blogs.com/thespin/
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 07, 2010, 12:09:24 PM
Heh.  Actually, I'd also like hockey better if the rink were a little bigger.  I'm just weird.


Spud Webb was never 5'7", either.  They used to exaggerate his height -- and sometimes exaggerate his lack of it.  I saw him on TV once saying he was really more like 5'5".  When half the guys on your team are well over 6'6", 5'5" and 5'7" look pretty much the same.  He was an amazing player.  I always root for the players who are more fun to watch.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Tripper on January 07, 2010, 12:58:35 PM
They called Dominique the "Human Highlight film", but it was far more amazing to watch Spud almost climb up someone and dunk the ball.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 07, 2010, 12:59:01 PM
NHL rinks are smaller than Olympic rinks. If you like the bigger rink watch the Olympics. The Olympic rinks also have a sharper curve in the baords in the corners so from above the rink looks more rectangular.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 07, 2010, 01:09:46 PM
Huh.  I had no idea.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 07, 2010, 01:19:19 PM
NHL rinks are based on the original geometry of a rink in Montreal where some of the first organized ice hockey was played. The IIHF has it's own standard, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 08, 2010, 10:51:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQJRUKSfrZY
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 08, 2010, 11:25:08 AM
Maybe he should try the Gong Show next time.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 08, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Can you imagine what would've happened to Jose Theodore (in goal) if the guy had scored?
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 12, 2010, 10:02:43 PM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/the-nhls-worst-nightmare/article1428783/
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: random axe on January 12, 2010, 10:39:18 PM
Eh.  You gotta just live with it.  I've known for a long time that basketball is just as hard to ref -- and that the NBA is not entirely 'clean', nor are referees Vulcans -- but I still watch the NBA.  I've just learned not to get too emotionally involved, and to try to enjoy watching the players do incredible stuff as much as whether or not they actually get the win.

It's still maddening when calls are bad all night or a game clearly gets taken away, but . . . these sports leagues need a lot of referees.  How many people are there going to be out there who can do it and are incorruptible, temper-free saints?  US pro football goes out of its way to attempt to remove all personality from its refs, but in the NBA a lot of the refs are almost celebrities, themselves, and they have distinct personalities.  Like judges.  Sometimes you get a judge who hates you.  It sucks, but it happens.

And of course a rookie can merely pass close by a superstar and get called for a foul every time . . . .


I don't honestly know if AI referees could 'fix' this problem even if they called the games perfectly.  I'm sure fans still wouldn't trust them.  On the other hand, AI refs combined with ubiquitous cameras could give audiences the 'right' view every time in replay, showing exactly where the contact did or didn't occur, where a player's foot was, etc.  That might help some.  Videos can be fixed, and all, but by then there'll be so many different sources for replays that it wouldn't really be plausible in most cases.

Eh.  We'll see.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on January 20, 2010, 10:29:14 AM
My old high school had its big community hockey night last night. One game featured faculty vs the under-16 boys team. I thought it would have been a lot more like Monty Python's Masters vs Boys rugby but alas it was far too civil...
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Talix on May 13, 2010, 08:54:28 AM
The Canadiens are forgiven.
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: flipper on May 19, 2010, 12:16:51 PM
Fucking Sharks :stbm:
Title: Re: J'adore l'hockey
Post by: Encino Man on July 29, 2010, 02:59:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUasXNu8s-w

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