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General => Politics, Government & The Law => Topic started by: Psidefect on September 05, 2009, 05:57:27 PM

Title: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on September 05, 2009, 05:57:27 PM
Saw this over on Reddit. It's a redo of an old viral email called Things Only A Republican Can Believe (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/9hmmm/things_only_a_republican_could_believe/).

Clearly it's political humor, so I hope no one takes it too seriously, but there are a couple I liked (some are totally stupid). Some of the comments are pretty good too (usually the case over there).

Full Disclosure: I am a registered Republican. ...Though my last three votes for POTUS were Nader (shutup!), Kerry and Obama, (sorry, :flipper:) so take this list with whatever seasonings you deem appropriate.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 05, 2009, 06:28:54 PM
  • Socialism, Marxism, Communism and Fascism are all interchangeable words that mean pretty much the same thing.

Why, I just heard this yesterday!  From a guy I thought was wrong, but intelligent.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: whidB on September 05, 2009, 06:50:49 PM
Quote from: defecto
Full Disclosure: I am a registered Republican. ...Though my last three votes for POTUS were Nader (shutup!), Kerry and Obama,

 :brainwaves:

Though this year I finally made a little peace w/my "Registered Dem" status. I'll play Democrat for awhile... :alien:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: TehPnuk on September 05, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
I also enjoy that when 99% of Republicans are talking about Atheism, Ethical Humanism, Agnosticism, and so on they're actually talking about Nihilism, something that's radically different.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: TehPnuk on September 05, 2009, 06:52:20 PM
Quote from: defecto
Though my last three votes for POTUS were Nader (shutup!), Kerry and Obama,

 :brainwaves:

Though this year I finally made a little peace w/my "Registered Dem" status. I'll play Democrat for awhile... :alien:

In Washington you can only participate in the caucus of the party you're registered for. If I stuck to my roots as an independent, I wouldn't get a voice before the election. So I register as a Democrat. The idea of registering as a Republican makes me feel 70 shades of dirty.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: whidB on September 05, 2009, 06:57:07 PM
I remember about 10 years ago Dan Savage made a go at joining the Republican Party as kind of joke, but since it was so limp back then he also saw the move as a chance to go in there and revitalize it.

Well, I thought it was funny, anyway. The antics were daringly refreshing. Wish I'd saved the article, though I suppose it could be online somewhere...

Nah, I felt embarrassed being associated with the Dems, even though I've voted for them damn near every Presidential/Senatoral/Rep elections.

They're looking up this year, we'll see if they cave on the public option. I'm going to send e-mails this weekend, everybody should.

:soapbox:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2009, 11:44:27 AM
The game theory people used to always say that the best primary strategy was to register for the party you hate and then support the most vicious, psycho primary candidate.  The theory was that this candidate would inevitably be too far 'out there' to win an election and would make the party look bad to centrists and moderates and the media.

Alas, the GOP seems to take those candidates and run with them.  I mean, c'mon, Sarah Palin?  And I don't care how much you hated Bob Dole, don't tell me you didn't miss him the moment Bush Jr turned in decent polling numbers in 1999 and you realized that maybe, just somehow, he actually could get elected.

Not that he did, but you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Encino Man on September 06, 2009, 01:33:36 PM
Things Repubs refuse to believe: Science.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/bubbling-cauldrons-of-gas/article1277849/
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 06, 2009, 03:14:16 PM
I was gonna say science, but :hoss: was striving for teh funnay and by golly I am not that these days.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2009, 03:43:37 PM
I actually, rather bizarrely, just got an old copy of some right-wing magazine called Town Hall (I think) in my mailbox yesterday.  Right address, but the person on the label has long since moved elsewhere.  I guess it got lost in the mail until now.

I flipped through it idly and saw a column that was something like What Liberals Believe -- and it was astonishingly retarded.  I mean, not even clever.  Just deeply weakass propaganda for people who will believe anything.  Maybe it was trying to be funny?

I'll have to bring the thing in to type out some samples.  Just bizarre BS.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on September 06, 2009, 03:48:31 PM
I was gonna say science, but :hoss: was striving for teh funnay and by golly I am not that these days.

Heh, I thought the science quip was funny.

But you're right. This was all meant in jest, so I hope I haven't offended anyone.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Tripper on September 07, 2009, 07:59:57 AM
Republicans here in Dekalb County Georgia (Cynthia "Jihad" McKinney) mostly register Democrat because no Republican stands a snowball's chance in hell of ever getting elected and they want some sort of say as to who represents them.

Naturally, McKinney (and her father, who is batshit crazy) sees this as being racist.  The idea of the people she would represent having a voice in *who* does that doesn't enter her mind, just that "the crackers" are out to get her.  Well, a lot of albino and over-melanined crackers decided that she wasn't doing the job last election and tossed her out.  Again.  Makes me wonder where they go when she does manage to get elected.  Again.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 07, 2009, 09:24:07 AM
I thought she moved to California and joined the Green party...?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 07, 2009, 12:34:13 PM
Oh, hell, if you want stories of crazy ethnic-minority Democrat politicians, just go to the Free Press website and read some shit about the Detroit city council.

As if Detroit didn't have enough problems.

Thing is, if you're perceived as representing an aggrieved minority (ethnic or otherwise), your other qualities may not matter much, and elections often go to the people who are most focused on winning them.  Political office is about how good you are at getting elected, after all, not how good you are at serving the office.  Crazy people are often quite focused, and so we get a lot of crazy politicians, all over the spectrum.

This is the same reason you can't buy a good toaster in this country.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 07, 2009, 07:26:42 PM
I don't know. Bicyclists are aggrieved minorities, and not even freaks care enough about them in elected bodies
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Tripper on September 07, 2009, 08:42:03 PM
I thought she moved to California and joined the Green party...?

I wish.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 08, 2009, 12:26:12 PM
There's a lot of competition among aggrieved minorities.  You can endlessly subdivide the electorate into aggrieved minorities, but realistically there's only so much political pie for minority candidates.  Ergo, endocompetition, and the mainstream plugged-in corruptos eat everything else quite comfortably.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 08, 2009, 04:30:33 PM
Was anyone else bothered by insinuating that El Salvador is in South America?

In the last several elections I voted for

08 McKinney (the real black candidate)
04 :flipper:
00 Browne
96 Nader
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 13, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Things Only A Republican Can Believe . . . such as that the website was (A) a good idea or (B) ready.

And 'what up' with that picture? (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin/detail??blogid=150&entry_id=49465) :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on October 21, 2009, 04:24:02 PM
A conservative friend forwarded this to S a day or to ago:

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't` eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
If a liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a person of color is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful. Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed. If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor and then sues.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended".


So S countered with:

"If a conservative is homosexual, he keeps it from his wife, and relegates his sexual activities to public restrooms, shrubbery and parked cars while simultaneously railing against equal rights for gays.
If a liberal is homosexual, he or she demands the same rights accorded to all other U.S. citizens."

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on October 21, 2009, 04:31:27 PM
That's way too broad to be realistic, but not too out there to be disbelieved automatically.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 21, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
I guess liberals may forward it for a good laugh, too.

Honestly, the sanctimonious self-satisfaction of some whiny right-wingers is almost hard to believe.  But what's more fun than congratulatory propaganda platitudes, right?  I guess it can't be easy to just reverse the trope.

:hmm:

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he still supports the radical lunatics who run the NRA because they bought the right politicians.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he probably won't tell his friends for fear they'll think he's unmanly.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to kill those brown people and take their stuff.

If a conservative is homosexual, [yeah, you got this one right].

If a person of color is conservative, they'll be proud to be a token conservative person of color.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how it's all the fault of foreigners, taxes, and liberals.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he whines endlessly about it even though he only watches Fox and has never seen the talk show in question.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he acts holier-than-thou just the same and probably talks a lot about how much he goes to church.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he's either wealthy enough to get it or else he'll blame illegal immigrants for hogging it all.

If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he sues.  Come on, you think all frivolous lawsuits are filed by liberals?

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh, so long as it strictly agrees with his cherished preconceived notions.


Tricky stuff, this BS.  Predigested pap for minds that lack teeth.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 21, 2009, 05:11:13 PM
:detta: :galm: :detta:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on October 21, 2009, 06:56:38 PM
 :rollin:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mrcookieface on October 21, 2009, 10:34:20 PM
:lol:
 
:clap:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on October 27, 2009, 01:36:13 PM
Press release from an anti-immigration group:

In a New Attempt To Silence Americans, Obama May Use Flu To Shut Down Web

Ironic that Obama's DHS is telegraphing a desire to shut down 'certain websites' and civilian access to the Internet in response to this weak strain of flu, considering the fact that civilian Internet communications are the primary information sharing channels of his political opposition.

The Internet combined with talk radio is the biggest threat to Obama's globalist open borders amnesty agenda. The White House clearly has resentments towards any media not under the control of their masters.

XXXXXX is moving to create a phone bank that can be staffed with employees and volunteers to reach our supporters during such an emergency and attack on free speech.

Please make sure that you are a recent donor to XXXXXX, so we will have the current contact information necessary to reach you by phone or snail mail if necessary.

Please support our current funds drive, so we will have the resources we need to be able to communicate with you using backup methods, if Obama moves to silence the American public on the web as DHS is suggesting in this article.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN26207501


I used the link to the actual Reuters article, not to the group's website.


Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 27, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
The alarmism these people use as a plea for money is truly retarded, not that that reduces its popularity with the large wingnut crowd we have.  I've heard several people on the radio talking about how Obama may have introduced the swine flu as an excuse to vaccinate children and declare martial law.  Exciting stuff!  Especially since I only listen to FM music stations.

Also, WTF (from the article) "telework"?  The article is largely incompetent:

Quote
Experts have for years pointed to the potential problem of Internet access during a severe pandemic, which would be a unique kind of emergency.

Unique . . . or at least unusual.  Also, you know, the "severe pandemic", which would probably be some kind of emergency on its own.


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It would be global, affecting many areas at once

Wait, wait, wait . . . run that by me again.


Quote
and would last for weeks or months, unlike a disaster such as a hurricane or earthquake.

Because those disasters end immediately after the wind or shaking stops.  There are no lingering effects that might persist for weeks or months.  Like how New Orleans bounced back within 24 hours last time around.


Quote
"An expectation of unlimited Internet access during a pandemic is not realistic,"

BOOM!  HEADSHOT!  There probably won't be enough OJ to go around, either.  But, as people die off, bandwidth should start clearing up again.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on October 27, 2009, 02:58:25 PM
I like the minimizing of
Quote
this weak strain of flu
I sort of expected "if you can't beat this wimpy flu how can you expect to stand up to ... damn, what's the evil menace du jour again?

I find it most amusing that the article cited says that DHS has no clue about shutting or limiting parts of the internet, which rather varies from their interpretation that DHS will shut down their ability to rally against the evils perpetrated by the government.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2009, 07:13:21 PM
Incidentally, Lieberman was a huge dickhead with his comment about how the military has "zero tolerance" for "extremist islamist" soldiers.  Other kinds of religious extremists are OK, though?

Lieberman, although a dick, is too smart not to know how bad comments like that make us look, as a nation.  And he's Jewish, for crying out loud.  Suddenly military Christian extremism seems like a good idea to him?  Because there's a HELL of a lot of that in our military.  And a lot of Jewish soldiers in our military take shit from their comrades just for being Jewish.

Anyway, Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter, clearly slipped a disk.  Islam may not have helped (or at least not helped sufficiently) in his case, but it's not Islam that made him do it.  The guy snapped.  I'm sure there were exacerbating factors, and I'm not saying he would've snapped if his job was Bingo Caller at a senior center, but if you're determined to find a rational cause for what he did . . . you're probably either going to be disappointed or going to be full of shit.

Strictly speaking, from early reports, this is a guy who knew full well the horrors of being sent to war, a guy who really didn't want to go to war, and a guy who was being forced to go to war -- and at the same time he felt it was his duty to go.  The military goes to a lot of trouble to condition soldiers so that this kind of tension doesn't make them snap, so obviously we're familiar with the problem.  They wouldn't have to have the drill sergeants yell at you so much if your natural inclination was to take orders and march into battle.

But, point is, Lieberman = dickhead.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2009, 07:18:43 PM
I'd like to add, though -- because I think it's actually much more important than Lieberman's opportunistic limelight-stealing -- that the military's handling of the case has been exactly what it should be, so far as I can tell.

There've been several brass fellows interviewed who've said things like 'We aren't going to jump to conclusions' and 'A lot of soldiers are under a lot of stress, and we want to make sure no one else does this' and so on.  They've even said that the system should have done a better job of recognizing Hasan's problems and taking care of him.  Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, Fort Hood's commander, has been exemplary in what I've seen him telling the press.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 17, 2010, 02:10:50 PM
OK.  SERIOUSLY.  What rose-colored welder's goggles are people viewing Sarah Palin through?  I want a pair, just to try them out.  I just read this column about her move to Fox News (NY Times) (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/16/opinion/16blow.html), and I can't stand it.

Quote
1. She’s made for television.

She’s telegenic. She’s never speechless. [...]  And, she has one of the best poker faces in the game — smiling and winking while bobbing and weaving, spouting all manner of nonsense to conceal when she’s nonplussed.

No.  No.  Have you actually ever seen her on TV?  She looks like a badly-maintained muppet.  She compresses her mouth in a confused frown while staring at whoever's talking as if she really really has to go to the bathroom.  She cannot speak if she's not repeating something rehearsed.  She looks like a quarter-inch layer of pancake makeup is the only thing holding back a deluge of flop sweat.  She nods smugly in that way that screams I don't know WTF you're talking about, so please don't call on me.  She's hesitant and jerky and confused, and it often looks like she's going to either cry or flip out.

She's terrible.  I'm sorry, but she's not even fit for talk radio.  It won't matter to her fanbase (nothing does), but she is not telegenic.  She makes Nixon look like Cary Grant.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on January 17, 2010, 02:47:18 PM
 :lol: :rollin:

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on January 17, 2010, 08:21:08 PM
I always got the feeling, watching her on tv, that she was just barely not retarded enough for the special olympics...
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Encino Man on February 11, 2010, 11:36:31 AM
http://gawker.com/5469035/virginia-republican-bans-satan
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on February 11, 2010, 12:10:31 PM
I always got the feeling, watching her on tv, that she was just barely not retarded enough for the special olympics...

What's the difference between Sarah's mouth and her vagina?

Only one retarded thing has come out of her vagina.

(this would be the offensive joke I ref'd somewhere. it's horrible and I love it at the same time. one of the benefits of a complete lack of shame)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on February 11, 2010, 04:43:56 PM
 :rollin: :rollin: :rollin:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
Quote
http://gawker.com/5469035/virginia-republican-bans-satan

:hmm:

Quote from: TFA
the "Mark of the Beast" spoken of in the Book of Revelations—generally the most important biblical book for your average fundamentalist Christian, as it elides the gay neighbor-loving shit and the "camel through a needle's eye" socialism for Michael Bay special effects and fiery vengeance against the heathens.

Book of Revelation, singular, and don't use "elides" that way.  Proper usage should be when something is omitted because the intender believes (consciously or unconsciously) that it's implicit and understood, not because the intender dislikes it or the audience is meant to be deceived.  Plus, Revelation is mostly a warning to the self-styled faithful, not so much a promise of the comeuppance of the heathens, although they get theirs, too.  The apocalyptic prophets were mostly saying 'This is what's a-gonna happen to people God doesn't like -- and if you're not carefull, that means YOU, too.'

Otherwise I agree . . . except that they missed the prime irony that a hell of a lot of the social and political machinations of the Extreme Christians is meant to hasten the End Times, not prevent them from arriving.  This guy isn't even on the right page.  It makes me wonder how he feels about Israel's sovereignty.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Encino Man on February 18, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/02/12/f-rfa-macdonald.html

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The Tea Partiers' America is a richly imagined nation, one in which a suitably shrunken government, its general uselessness exposed to all, answers directly to ruggedly individualistic citizens who carve out decent livings solely by dint of hard work and entrepreneurial spirit, scorning government handouts, and who are free of crippling taxes and regulations.

Everybody speaks English in this America, preferably only English, and prays regularly. Their children don't need abortions because they practise abstinence until they enter into a heterosexual marriage, often after military service, during which they get to go into combat abroad against America's myriad enemies.

A Tea-Party America would already be whacking the Iranians, slapping North Korea around and straightening out the Pakistanis.

All of this would be financed by waves of tax cuts here at home because, as everybody knows, tax cuts provoke such wild economic growth that governments actually wind up richer.




Quote
America's Tea Partiers, for all their colourful ideas, are really only a spectacular crystallization of certain opinion currents in the broader citizenry.

Or, as Newsweek columnist Jacob Weisberg so tartly put it last week, "the childishness, ignorance, and growing incoherence of the public at large."




Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on February 18, 2010, 01:58:17 PM
If they're for small government why are they pro military?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on February 18, 2010, 02:30:01 PM
If they're for small government why are they pro military?
Somebody's got to quiesce the noisy neighbors.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 18, 2010, 02:34:09 PM
It's not reasoned.  It's the more annoying end of Libertarian Republicanism, is what it is -- the hundreds of thousands so assured of their own superiority that they believe that surely THEY would come out on top if only the rules were made 'fair', by which they really mean if only they were allowed to screw other people over.  They believe they are Darwinian champions held back by PC rules and regulations that make life easy for people who really should have perished on their own by now for the good of the species.  Their boastful false modesty and rationalized sense of false ethical norms is what makes them proclaim that, hey, everyone would benefit if only the government would turn this into a free-for-all, and anyone who failed to benefit, well, that must be purely their own fault, those losers, and it's none of my affair or responsibility.

Like white supremacists (often very like), they are grossly deluded.  They're blissfully unaware of how they benefit mightily from the same social institutions that they scorn.  And if they got their way, and government's protections of society were removed, they would wind up at the bottom of the pile in short order, all the while blaming minorities and foreigners and, still, the government, and anyone else but themselves.  Because they really do believe in their own natural superiority.  They just don't understand a damned thing, and don't care to.

The biggest difference between a rich man's dog and a poor man's dog isn't how much steak they get to eat but that the rich man's dog believes it's entitled to that steak, as if by God, and believes that steak is its inevitable destiny.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Encino Man on February 18, 2010, 04:11:05 PM
You should email CBC - Neil MacDonald is a windbag. It'd be nice to see someone bring him down a peg. hahaha
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on February 18, 2010, 06:54:14 PM
It's not reasoned.  It's the more annoying end of Libertarian Republicanism, is what it is -- the hundreds of thousands so assured of their own superiority that they believe that surely THEY would come out on top if only the rules were made 'fair', by which they really mean if only they were allowed to screw other people over.  They believe they are Darwinian champions held back by PC rules and regulations that make life easy for people who really should have perished on their own by now for the good of the species.  Their boastful false modesty and rationalized sense of false ethical norms is what makes them proclaim that, hey, everyone would benefit if only the government would turn this into a free-for-all, and anyone who failed to benefit, well, that must be purely their own fault, those losers, and it's none of my affair or responsibility.

Like white supremacists (often very like), they are grossly deluded.  They're blissfully unaware of how they benefit mightily from the same social institutions that they scorn.  And if they got their way, and government's protections of society were removed, they would wind up at the bottom of the pile in short order, all the while blaming minorities and foreigners and, still, the government, and anyone else but themselves.  Because they really do believe in their own natural superiority.  They just don't understand a damned thing, and don't care to.

The biggest difference between a rich man's dog and a poor man's dog isn't how much steak they get to eat but that the rich man's dog believes it's entitled to that steak, as if by God, and believes that steak is its inevitable destiny.

What 'ave the Romans ever done for us?

Well besides the Aqueducts, ....
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on February 18, 2010, 08:32:25 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/02/12/f-rfa-macdonald.html

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The Tea Partiers' America is a richly imagined nation, one in which a suitably shrunken government, its general uselessness exposed to all, answers directly to ruggedly individualistic citizens who carve out decent livings solely by dint of hard work and entrepreneurial spirit, scorning government handouts, and who are free of crippling taxes and regulations.

Everybody speaks English in this America, preferably only English, and prays regularly. Their children don't need abortions because they practise abstinence until they enter into a heterosexual marriage, often after military service, during which they get to go into combat abroad against America's myriad enemies.

A Tea-Party America would already be whacking the Iranians, slapping North Korea around and straightening out the Pakistanis.

All of this would be financed by waves of tax cuts here at home because, as everybody knows, tax cuts provoke such wild economic growth that governments actually wind up richer.




Quote
America's Tea Partiers, for all their colourful ideas, are really only a spectacular crystallization of certain opinion currents in the broader citizenry.

Or, as Newsweek columnist Jacob Weisberg so tartly put it last week, "the childishness, ignorance, and growing incoherence of the public at large."


QFT
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2010, 06:44:02 PM
Poll says Teabaggers are actually basically dirty hippies batting for the other side (http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/24/opinion/la-oe-ellis25-2010feb25).

:huh:

Drama queens.  We all knew it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on February 25, 2010, 06:55:42 PM
 :bullshit:

What a load of crap.

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a poll conducted by CNN gives us some hard data...

And it spirals down from there in flames.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2010, 07:15:01 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on February 25, 2010, 08:34:13 PM
No shit. What a load of crap. I'm probably being really snooty, but I don't see a lot of people who look like they're college educated or middle class.

I'd say working class, I'd say elderly, and predominantly white, yes, but no one that resembles a faded 1960s radical.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2010, 09:30:06 PM
I'm not sure if they actually meant former hippies or just people from the same generation who are getting the anti-establishment excitement out of their systems now after having been out of it at the time.  They may just as easily have been right-wing during the Summer of Love and not just this past Summer of Hate.

I don't know about the demographic.  On TV, when I see actual Tea Party people (who identify themselves as such), they're pretty much always white and usually men . . . and usually fairly crazy.  But there are a lot of people under 25 in there.

Makes me think:  The Daily Show romped on Glenn 'Was That Ironic?' Beck the other night for railing against socialism and communism and public property and taxes and government . . . and then explaining that nobody TOLD him these universal truths; he learned it by himself, in a library, where the books are free.

And that is staggeringly stupid and hypocritical.  But what The Daily Show missed is that when Beck was using his blackboard to talk about how Evolution and Revolution are the same, he misspelled Evolution as "Evotution".

You are the darwinian weakest link.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on February 25, 2010, 11:30:49 PM
I saw that! God that guy is a dick. Could he have stuck his foot ANY further into his mouth?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 26, 2010, 12:42:11 AM
I saw that! God that guy is a dick. Could he have stuck his foot ANY further into his mouth?

I'm sure we'll find out. And I feel I have to point out that I would pay good money to stick my foot, encased in my steel toed sea boots, far further in to his ass.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on February 26, 2010, 03:25:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ybmfW.png)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on February 26, 2010, 07:29:38 PM
:clap:  :galm:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on February 27, 2010, 12:14:42 AM
Indeed.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 27, 2010, 10:22:09 AM
God is sending all these earthquakes because he's mad at the Teabaggers and CPAC.

We were warned that this would happen.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on February 27, 2010, 10:30:31 AM
I thought he was mad about all of the homosexuals and the mixing of the races.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 27, 2010, 10:40:34 AM
That's just what the real culprits want you to believe.  They're never tough enough to admit their own faults.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on February 27, 2010, 10:49:31 AM
So, the teabaggers are undercover brothers?  That explains some things.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on February 27, 2010, 11:02:09 AM
Cavia porcellus originates in Peru and Chile.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 05, 2010, 10:40:59 AM
Now the GOP is identifying Teabaggers as right-wing hippies, too (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/05/opinion/05brooks.html). 

Apparently Glenn Beck is their Abbie Hoffman (boy, is THAT weak) and they make up the largest group of buyers of Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals, according to Amazon.

It's good theater and rabble-rousing, but there's more and more evidence and opinion that the Tea Party nonsense won't add up to anything except maybe a few more acts of violence.  But, then, the actual Boston Tea Party was basically theater and didn't get any heavy lifting done.  Maybe it's a better model for this group than I'd previously thought.  The real problem is that these new self-styled Sons of Liberty don't have the big thinkers or real leaders that the first group did.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 05, 2010, 11:57:58 AM
Or maybe the fact that their "cause" is a load of horseshit is part of the problem.

Actually that's insulting to horses.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 05, 2010, 12:57:47 PM
Yeah, well . . . the hippies typically weren't too focused, either.  Activism is a great idea and good for you and good for the country, but a hell of a lot of it is based on people getting excited without actually knowing what they're talking about.

The NYT also had a thing today about the GOP vowing to block unemployment extensions (yes, some more) unless the Dems give up on the Estate Tax.  Mind you, the House has already passed a bill that would exempt all households under $7 million worth, so the GOP would be screwing the unemployed and the economy to protect the richest quarter of one percent of Americans.  And lots of people are very upset about Estate Tax, without even knowing if it applies to them.

Meanwhile, the only person I've ever heard talk about it who actually is strongly affected by it doesn't care.  His dad's worth around $12 million last I heard, but they just put all their investment into commercial real estate and have never lost money at it yet -- but depreciation lets them take huge tax deductions on it, and the real estate is technically all owned by their two-person corporation anyway. 
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 09, 2010, 11:20:41 AM
Wow.

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada," Palin said in her first Canadian appearance since stepping down as governor of Alaska. "And I think now, isn't that ironic?" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20100308/cm_huffpost/490080)

:eyeroll:

And Limbaugh says that if health care reform passes, he'll leave the US to go live in Costa Rica.  Is he aware of the politics in Costa Rica?  It makes Massachusetts look like Utah.  Until recently, the feds there ran the entire insurance industry directly, they're uber-Green, and they outlawed their own military right in their constitution.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on March 09, 2010, 04:08:39 PM
Yeah, but 11-year-old prostitues and OxyContin are probably easier to get there. Kinda like Thailand.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Encino Man on March 25, 2010, 04:17:46 PM
Is it widely known David Frum is Canadian?? He and I grew up in the same hood. There is a library named after his mom a block from my mom's house. His mom was a news anchor forever....


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/25/david-frum-aei-split-cons_n_513544.html

Oh, and he's a raging douchebag.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 27, 2010, 12:27:17 PM
Unless this report itself is a joke, Palin threatens to shoot any protester who threatens violence (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/palin-warns-anyone-who-th_b_515764.html).

She's kidding, but I find it hard to believe she's fully aware of the irony.  Or, in fact, in general what she's talking about, at pretty much any time.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Encino Man on March 31, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
http://gopclownshow.com/fox-breaking-news-obama/

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on March 31, 2010, 01:34:19 PM
It was breaking news. It's just that the organization itself was breaking, not the news.

The Founding Fathers, Bless Their Holy Names, knew that news organizations had biases, and chose not to limit them (if they had the headaches would have been incredible). I think the problem comes up that now there is so much happening that instead of using multiple sources and cross checking them, most people pick one source and accept it.

Of course, I use a four letter word website for a lot of my information, so I KNOW I'm biased towards schadenfreude.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on March 31, 2010, 01:42:12 PM
It doesn't help that there really aren't any independent news sources anymore and that the media outlets are own by only a few people.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 31, 2010, 02:13:43 PM
Fox is just the political propaganda arm of an Australian lunatic billionaire -- who's even admitted it a few times, regardless of what Roger Ailes prefers to claim.

Fox has done this We Interrupt The Obama To Go Now To Breaking Nothing several times.  Jon Stewart's mocked them for it a couple of times.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on May 27, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
NYT editorial on the Republican primaries (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/opinion/27collins.html).  It's, uh, pretty awesome.  And the Republicans have no one to blame but themselves.

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A political novice who made her fortune building up an entertainment business that specialized in blood, seminaked women and scripted subplots featuring rape, adultery and familial violence. In which the candidate, her husband and children played themselves. Also, the family yacht is named Sexy Bitch.


Quote
a former drug addict who, according to court documents, once referred to the United States government as the Antichrist and claimed to have personally located the Ark of the Covenant.


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For governor, the Republican convention endorsed Tom Foley, a longtime party fund-raiser who was once George W. Bush’s ambassador to Ireland. Foley, whose 100-foot yacht makes the McMahons’ 47-footer look like a dinghy, instantly identified himself as an “outsider.”
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2010, 10:43:42 AM
Two quick things that caught my attention:

1)  The Family Research Council recently released a report on how many sexual assaults are reported in the US military and what proportion of them are homosexual assaults, and they came to the conclusion that gays are three times more likely to commit sexual assaults in the military.  Their reasoning is awfully poor, not to say embarrassing, but among other things it starts with the claim that 8% of sexual assaults in the military are same-sex.  This doesn't bode well for heterosexual soldiers.

The report apparently doesn't consider what proportion of assaults get reported, or which kinds of assaults are more likely to be reported, or so on.  I'd be willing to bet that the numbers are skewed in several rather overwhelming ways.  For one thing, I'd bet that a lot of 'homosexual assault' cases are the result of consensual gay sex where the participants get caught, and one of them makes a claim of assault to save his or her career.  For another, I'd bet that most same-sex sexual assaults in the military, reported or not, are committed by soldiers who identify themselves very firmly as straight.  I have no doubt whatsoever that heterosexual soldiers are much more likely to commit homosexual assaults than homosexual soldiers are.

But anyway.


2)  FOX whipped up a psychotic anti-Those-People demonstration in NYC the other day to protest the infamous Ground Zero Mosque, ie, a community center near the 9/11 site which would include a mosque.  Because, you know, those dozen lunatics were the official representatives of that entire group of religions.

Anyway, the crowd turned on two Egyptian Coptic Christians who had traveled from LA to join the protest, and the police had to save the Egyptians from the mob, who refused to believe they were Christians because, you know, they didn't look very Christian.  Very nice. 

I happened to mention this story to my brother, whose immediate comment was "They gathered a concentrated critical mass at ground zero?  They're lucky they didn't destroy the entire city."

Oy.  I feel a bit flash-burned, myself.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 03, 2010, 09:57:49 PM
And . . . Bristol and Levi have called it quits yet again.

Who had Got another girl pregnant?  That appears to be the winner.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on August 05, 2010, 05:04:03 AM
I didn't know it was possible for me to feel sympathy for a Republican Representative from South Carolina.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/08/bob-inglis-tea-party-casualty

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Inglis is a casualty of the tea party-ization of the Republican Party. Given the decisive vote against him in June, it's clear he was wiped out by a political wave that he could do little to thwart. "Emotionally, I should be all right with this," he says. And when he thinks about what lies ahead for his party and GOP House leaders, he can't help but chuckle. With Boehner and others chasing after the tea party, he says, "that's going to be the dog that catches the car." He quickly adds: "And the Democrats, if they go into the minority, are going to have an enjoyable couple of years watching that dog deal with the car it's caught."
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 05, 2010, 12:09:42 PM
The weird part for me is thinking of this guy as a moderate, but maybe the teabaggers will drive them out into some kind of bipartisan effort.  Common enemy, and all that.

Still, it took this guy eight to ten years to figure out that combative partisan politics wasn't productive for the country?  I don't know if Congress needs a lot of slow learners.  Maybe it's true that conservatives are good because they don't get much done.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 05, 2010, 12:33:35 PM
I don't feel sympathetic. Republicans like Inglis and Tom Campbell really talk the talk, but when the votes roll around in Congress? They vote like the money and hate radio tells them to vote. So fuck'em. I actually can't stand that flavor of hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on August 05, 2010, 04:32:53 PM
I would feel sympathy even for Bush, if he were to lose to a teabagger. Anyone, really. To lose that race is losing to idiocracy. I can't put it in words. It has nothing to do with Inglis, his history or beliefs or stance on the issues - I know little about him, and what I read in that article wasn't very flattering. It's just that to be beaten by such a group is so degrading.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 05, 2010, 05:04:11 PM
I've just spent the last day or two cruising Fark threads because I hate myself and I hate humanity. And ... it's justified. THERE IS SO MUCH STUPID. AAAAAAAH. I mean consider this: WHIDBEY is the only funny and insightful poster I've seen. WHIDBEY! :galm:

Anyway, there's a chode in every thread. And they make the teabaggers look like, hell, I don't know, Earl Warren.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 05, 2010, 05:28:33 PM
WAT.  I make tons of jokes over there.

Also get into a lot of arguments.  :eyeroll:  But it's good for the circulation.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: dogbone on August 14, 2010, 04:00:28 PM
How are terror babbys formed?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 14, 2010, 04:19:32 PM
:lol:  Someone I know was recently amazed and horrified at the report that allegedly 8% of babies in the US have at least one illegal parent.

I was like "How does that compare historically?"

Oh, er, hmm.  Yeah, he didn't know if that's actually more or less than usual.

Anyway, he wanted to do away with the Born Here rule, so I said, OK, when you graduate high school, you take a citizenship test.  Oh, that's not a good idea either?

Picky!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: dogbone on August 14, 2010, 10:16:28 PM
A denizen of another site regarding the terror toddlers story: "The fucking GOP is like a crackhead; always looking out of their blinds thinking someone is coming to get them."
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: dogbone on August 16, 2010, 09:15:05 PM
I will abandon my support of the mosque near Ground Zero when those against said mosque agree that the church where George Tiller was murdered should become a Burlington Coat Factory.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 22, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
So . . . now the House GOP is going to unveil a "Pledge to America" that explains what they promise they'll do if they win back control after this election.

Uh-huh.  I guess the real question is whether or not their base is stupid enough to forget when they did this before as the "Contract with America" . . . and stupid enough to forget that it was a huge, fat lie.

This is really sad.  They've abandoned Karl Rove to go back to Newt Gingrich?  Come on, man.  The Democrats are in worse disarray than ever, the Tea Party is making the Right Wing look moderate, and THIS is the best you can do?

It's not that I want them to win.  It's just that if they do win, I'd like to be able to believe they have some small sliver of competence, but I guess I won't have that luxury.  Hoping harder than ever that they lose . . . .
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on September 23, 2010, 03:07:18 PM
Not sure if only a republican could believe that we've created mice with human brains, but this one does:

Christine O'Donnell ~ Mice with human brains! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_4if1x1pH8)

The fact that people actually listen to this moron is the most disturbing thing.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 23, 2010, 04:48:19 PM
She's not exactly a Republican, but . . . yeah, a moron.

A lot of people I know got much too excited over the actual research, which just showed that you could suppress a particular gene and improve cognitive plasticity in mice.  They learn a little faster and seem to remember longer, although it's too soon to tell if they're effed up in some other respect.  Several people have told me they're eager to try the same therapy.

But, I mean, seriously, Flowers For Algernon, anyone?  It's like exactly this.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on September 23, 2010, 05:46:17 PM
Wait, she's not exactly a republican?

She's still running as one, though, right?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 23, 2010, 06:07:06 PM
The GOP's attitude is that she's an annoying insect who probably can't win the election, but they'll back the only horse they have in that race, if not entirely graciously.  The 'real' Republican she beat in the primary refused to endorse her.  She's a (former?) Fox News employee and Tea Party darling, but she's a radical nutbag, and the party knows it.

Frankly, I think a lot of the GOP insiders would love to see her -- and most of the Palin and Tea Party candidates -- get beaten like a bag of rented chumps.  In the first place, they want to obstruct Obama, not steer him, since they don't want get blamed for being in charge during these ugly times.  Beyond that, it's so much easier to sabotage and then lay blame than to actually fix things.  If the Teabaggers get into office in a big way, then suddenly the GOP will be expected to get big results, which is difficult at best and probably unrealistic.

In the second place, these people aren't much more popular with the mainline Republicans than they are with anyone else.  The Teabaggers attack the GOP mainstays much more viciously than the Dems would ever have the backbone for.  And they're hard to control and have unworkable goals.  They're no one's friends, really.  And for similar reasons, not many people in the GOP are big fans of Sarah Palin, either.  Every time she endorses some juicebag who fails to get elected, there are as many GOP senators celebrating as Democrat, I guarantee it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on September 23, 2010, 06:19:11 PM
Gotcha.

And I agree. She just seems to me to be within the insanity envelope for the GOP these days.

I guess it pretty much boils down to who's definitions you go by.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 23, 2010, 07:01:12 PM
There's some bitterness over all of this in the GOP, and while it's sort of justified, it's also really stupid.

Time and again, there are people who stir up a riot with the rather naive assumption that they'll also become its leaders and beneficiaries.  When it turns out that, gosh, it's hard to control a riot, and the revolution picks other crazy heroes, the original instigators who presumed too much are always indignant and surprised.  All the way up to the guillotine, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 25, 2010, 11:10:52 PM
And . . . Bill Maher released a video showing an interview in which O'Donnell says evolution is a myth, or else why aren't monkeys still evolving into humans?

I realize that this is basically just her demonstrating that she doesn't know what she's talking about and couldn't pass a high school science class.  I think it has a lot to do with our failure to teach science, although the Christian Right is largely at fault there, especially on this particular issue.

It would have been fun to be that interviewer.  I mean, just for starters, how about the follow-up question "How do you know they aren't?"
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 29, 2010, 10:31:47 AM
The ACORN 'punkers' stray even further into crazyland (http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/29/okeefe.cnn.prank/index.html).  Apparently, the ringleader intended to seduce a CNN reporter on a 'palace of pleasure' boat and film it with hidden cameras and then release the video to prove that the liberal media looks awkward on camera . . . in order to prove that his group is not a bunch of 'crazy' 'unprofessional' 'non-journalists'.

The whole plan is not only in incredibly poor taste and probably illegal, but deeply lame and ill-conceived, and, really, does he think he could have carried it off?  I think he was more likely to get maced.  These people are morons -- this is possibly stupider than trying to bug that senator's office.  He's going to wind up in prison.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 29, 2010, 06:59:25 PM
The mention of a financial donor intrigues me. It would probably be interesting to follow that money trail.

Also, I do not approve of the use of the word "punkers" to describe these people. Sheena was a punk rocker, and you sir, are no Sheena.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 29, 2010, 08:07:38 PM
Yeah, that usage is the fault of that inveterate dillhole Ashton Kutcher.

Hey, Ashton, your fifteen minutes are calling collect from 2002 to say shut up.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 03, 2010, 06:55:56 PM
Oh man. I'm worried about Kanye - could this be the thing that swells his head to the point where it explodes?

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on November 03, 2010, 07:09:03 PM
I would love to see his head explode.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: First Post on November 03, 2010, 07:25:16 PM
I thought it was a pretty level headed response (http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/11/03/kanye-west-george-bush-response/).





Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 03, 2010, 08:00:54 PM
Oh . . . I thought you meant everyone on the internet making fun of his penis.  I hadn't heard about the Bush thing.


[note the careful capitalization]
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: First Post on November 03, 2010, 08:24:26 PM
It's what people do in 2010 I guess. When it's somebody famous like a rapper or quarterback or Disney chick or the girl from Paramore, we hear about it.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 03, 2010, 08:37:02 PM
I do think that by now no one should be surprised if any particular person winds up naked on the internet.  That's so ten-years-ago.

If they put themselves on the net, naked, or there are other extenuating circumstances, that's another story.  But just having had a photo taken of you proves nothing.  It's not like it's 1970 and cameras are pretty easy to avoid, and attitudes toward taking nekkid pictures have rather changed.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 03, 2010, 08:43:54 PM
I thought it was a pretty level headed response (http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/11/03/kanye-west-george-bush-response/).

Yes, very. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 04, 2010, 02:47:23 PM
So . . . I'm not really surprised that the infamous measure on the Oklahoma ballot was clearly written by people unfamiliar with legislation, the Constitution, or US government.  I am a little amused by reports on just how stupid it seems to be.  It sounds like the kind of thing that would be invalidated by the courts pretty damned quick, but I guess we'll see.

A number of law experts have said that it seems to ban the Ten Commandments as well as Sharia law, since the Ten Commandments are of foreign origin and are not federal law.  So, you know, oops, and all.  But the measure also reportedly directs OK courts to only use federal law to decide cases.  So . . . no Oklahoma statutes?  Did they just invalidate their own state laws?

Personally, I feel like when this gets overturned, dumbass state rep Rex Duncan, the primary author of the measure, should automatically get bounced out of office.  I mean, talk about your gross incompetence.  It's one thing to run on a Glenn Beck scary fairy tale platform, but it's something else entirely to do such a bad job of it, regardless of whether or not you actually get elected.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 17, 2010, 02:57:58 PM
GOP schmucks who started TSA begin to think it was a bad idea (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Amid-airport-anger_-GOP-takes-aim-at-screening-1576602-108259869.html).

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"When the TSA was established, it was never envisioned that it would become a huge, unwieldy bureaucracy which was soon to grow to 67,000 employees."

That's GOP Rep. John Mica, one of the authors of the original TSA bill, who . . . is obviously a very, very feeble Republican.  He helped create an unprecedented new federal police bureaucracy and now has the gall to say he had no idea it would tend to become an oversized "unwieldy" bureaucracy?  That's a land-war-in-Asia scale FAIL, John.

He's right about a lot of other things related to this whole problem, though. 

Pet peeve:  The Washington Examiner constantly saying "TSA" when they mean "The TSA".  If you don't pronounce the acronym as a word, you need an article, and that "T" in "TSA" doesn't stand for "The", so you don't have an out there, either.  I know some government agencies get this wrong with their own damn names, but that is not actually an excuse.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mrcookieface on November 17, 2010, 04:32:29 PM
Yeah, but the NASA sounds funny to me.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 17, 2010, 04:50:21 PM
You pronounce NASA as a word, so it doesn't get an article.  You say just 'NASA', but 'the FBI'.

Those CIA guys are among the ones getting it wrong, but you can't tell them anything.  Not on purpose, anyway.

If you use the acronym as an adjective, you don't necessarily use an article.  'People who work for the FBI', but just 'FBI agents'.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mrcookieface on November 17, 2010, 04:56:15 PM
 :hmm:

Ah, okay.  I did not know that.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 17, 2010, 04:59:45 PM
I suspect you've been doing it correctly all along due to simply being a sharp observer, naturally intelligent, and a superb judge of style.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mrcookieface on November 17, 2010, 05:01:11 PM
Well.... The IDK about that.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 17, 2010, 05:31:03 PM
Ha.

It's very local, like brits saying things like "Spinal Tap ARE going on tour" while we'd hold that the group is a singular. Brits would be more likely to omit the article in that context.

In southern california people refer to numbered highways as "the ###" -- this is weird
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 17, 2010, 05:49:58 PM
There are local customs, it's true, and the Brits have a different attitude toward a lot of collective nouns.  They're all "IKEA are one of our better furniture vendors" and shit.  Mer.

Using a definite article with a highway is normal if it has a more wordlike name and less common if it's referred to by number, but I'm OK with it either way so long as everyone picks one.  In the Boston area, you drive on Route 9, 128, and the Mass Pike.  No one drives on the 128.  But if everyone drove on the 128, then fine.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 17, 2010, 10:45:47 PM
I'm going with the off the top of my head theory that we use the definite article in the hope that nobody will repeat certain mistakes and the freeways will remain singular, thus "the 405".
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on November 18, 2010, 12:24:51 AM
THERE IS NO "THE" WHEN TALKING ABOUT FREEWAYS.

It's just "405".  And there are already at least 2 of them.

 :D
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 18, 2010, 01:03:49 AM
I claim the sanctuary of regional dialect.

Wait, I just found out what they do if you don't use Valley talk properly. I think I'll mend my ways instead.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 18, 2010, 09:44:03 AM
Quote
Wait, I just found out what they do if you don't use Valley talk properly.

If I remember correctly, they gag you with a spoon, right?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on November 18, 2010, 10:10:54 AM
It's definitely "the" here. The 401. The 403. The 407.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 18, 2010, 10:18:37 AM
I googled this late last night and found an opinion that you should only say 'the' if the highway's designation is an odd three-digit number.

Everybody has an opinion, but that's more specific than I was expecting.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on November 18, 2010, 11:13:10 AM
The major perimeter that goes around Atlanta is 285.

Not the 285, I don't think I have ever heard anyone call it the 285.

Suck it rules people!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Talix on November 18, 2010, 11:41:50 AM
Pet peeve:  The Washington Examiner constantly saying "TSA" when they mean "The TSA".  If you don't pronounce the acronym as a word, you need an article, and that "T" in "TSA" doesn't stand for "The", so you don't have an out there, either.  I know some government agencies get this wrong with their own damn names, but that is not actually an excuse.

I think I do this correctly for every agency except the one I work for.  I say "Here at SSA..." rather than "Here at the SSA..."
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 18, 2010, 11:46:54 AM
I can't really throw stones.  I subvocalize a lot of the abbreviations I use and treat them in print as if they weren't abbreviations, which is why I sometimes write 'a SF novel' instead of 'an SF novel'.  I'm just pronouncing 'SF' as 'science fiction'.

When I'm actually speaking out loud, I'm not sure if I'm doing that.  I don't know how to tell.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on November 18, 2010, 05:19:38 PM
oh, Science Fiction.  I always thought it was San Francisco.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on November 18, 2010, 06:24:50 PM
Of course, I frequently and consistently refer to my husband as The Roger.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 18, 2010, 06:43:09 PM
Not The Rogerer?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on November 18, 2010, 07:20:54 PM
THERE IS NO "THE" WHEN TALKING ABOUT FREEWAYS.

It's just "405".  And there are already at least 2 of them.

 :D

Then there's I-5 and I-90. No "the 5" or "the 90."

We only have three freeways in this state. Which is why traffic is so ridiculous.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Talix on November 19, 2010, 01:23:10 PM
I am so down with I-5.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 19, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
Palin said Simon Cowell is her role model.

WTF.

I guess this means we can expect a Palin-Abdul ticket, though.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 19, 2010, 07:24:56 PM
Palin said Simon Cowell is her role model.

WTF.

I guess this means we can expect a Palin-Abdul ticket, though.
:hisey:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 28, 2010, 01:43:13 PM
Why is John McCain trying to boss China around?  I can't believe he's so stupid he doesn't realize he's just making China less likely to cooperate, but I'm reluctant to believe he's so evil that he's trying to get us stuck in another war in Korea.

I mean, seriously, that's . . . that's beyond really bad.  Shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 09, 2011, 02:15:43 PM
I love this whole idea that no one knows whether the rhetoric has gotten out of hand until someone gets shot.  Then they say, OK, I guess we've found the border, so let's back up three steps.

These are not people who should be in charge of anything.  Or disciplining their own children, come to think of it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on January 09, 2011, 03:00:38 PM
Lots of what I'm reading online - many right-wingers are using this as an opportunity to froth that "the left shouldn't be politicizing this horrible tragedy" and "the shooter was a leftist" and "Sarah Palin had nothing to do with this so you shouldn't even mention her, that's disgraceful". It's unbelievable. You *would* think this would make everyone back up three steps, but. Obviously not.

Once I read that "insurrection timeline" it made me literally sick to my stomach. I thought I knew it was pretty bad but that page just went on and on and it only covers two and a half years of this sort of shitslinging/incidents. Some of which I'm sorry to say I had already forgotten about - such is the nature of the news cycle/rapid news turnover. How long is anyone going to remember this? Will it make a change at all?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on January 09, 2011, 03:11:35 PM
I think another point is - besides the incendiary rhetoric that gets unbalanced people riled up - is well made by this comment I saw on MeFi:

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So let's talk about why. One plausible scenario, this was a politically motivated killing directly influenced by the rhetoric of the Becks and the Palins and the Limbaughs of the world. This is a real possibility and we don't do the discourse any favors pretending otherwise.

A perhaps more likely scenario is that this was a generically mentally ill individual who happened to glom onto a variety of conspiracy theories, but with no particular party affiliation. There's a good chance that such a person would be receiving the treatment he needed, if conservatives in this country weren't doing everything they can to gut social services and mental health care. Or maybe he'd still be sick, but wouldn't have access to a firearm if conservatives weren't also gutting gun regulation.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 09, 2011, 03:16:30 PM
The part about mental health care isn't bad, but:

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A perhaps more likely scenario is that this was a generically mentally ill individual who happened to glom onto a variety of conspiracy theories, but with no particular party affiliation.

No.  In the last few years, we've had way too many lunatics killing people (or trying to) and citing inspiration from right-wing demagogues.  I can't think of a single one who cited a left-wing anything.

Right-wingers go after clinics, judges, politicians, Presidents, etc.  It's even a cliche.  Can you even name a stereotypical target for a left-wing-inspired lunatic?  I can think of dangerous left-wing extremists (ecoterrorists, say), but it's not like any of them were getting their ideas from Ted Kennedy or Nancy Pelosi or Al Franken.

It's not a mystery that violent, hateful, hyperbolic rhetoric tends to appeal to unstable violent people.  And the vast -- vast -- majority of that rhetoric comes from the right wing.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on January 09, 2011, 03:18:42 PM
"surveyor's symbols"?
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/blogs/palin-watch/8205-palin-staffer-calls-using-tragedy-to-score-political-points-qobsceneq-

WTF I DON'T EVEN
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 09, 2011, 03:24:27 PM
I think the phrases you're looking for are 'pathetic backpedaling' and 'feeble lie'.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: eldiem on January 09, 2011, 04:19:01 PM
 :huh:

It'd be laughable if it weren't so fucking frightening.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on January 09, 2011, 04:33:58 PM
Agreed. The story was interesting at first, and still is, but I can't stomach any more of the spin discussion. I'd like to just hear the facts. It's pretty obvious what's happened here, and a lot of what's going on now is just depressing me to know that even after such an event, the spin continues.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on January 09, 2011, 06:07:32 PM
here's a redditor's thread about his mother who helped subdue the shooter:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/eywvw/my_mother_helped_subdue_jared_lee_loughner_ama/

and here's a story about the intern that probably saved Giffords' life:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/09/20110109daniel-hernandez-gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting.html


these links don't seem to fit in this topic though - new topic?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on January 09, 2011, 06:28:46 PM
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Gabrielle came out and the Jared Lee Loughner emerged and shot her, paused, and went down the line of people waiting to meet her like it was a shooting gallery.

 :uncertain:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on January 09, 2011, 06:42:12 PM
Yeah, I noted that - all the news reports said he shot Giffords, then imply he was firing randomly into the crowd - but this eyewitness account (secondhand) says he was methodically picking off people, going down the line waiting to meet her. And it's been pointed out when he ran out of bullets he went to reload. Also it was pointed out he tried to flee, not to suicide. Unreal.

Another thing I noted from the link was that - his mother hit the deck, the woman directly in front of her in line was shot three times - then the shooter was tackled by a bystander - then she helped subdue the shooter and get the clip away from him that he was grabbing to reload - then she had someone else sit on him in her place so she could go into the Safeway and get medical supplies for the wounded - and she called his father, who wasn't there but was in the area - and his father showed up and helped put pressure on one of the lady in front of her's wounds while she was helping tend to the other wounded - all before police/EMS showed up. That sounds like it took quite some time, then.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 09, 2011, 09:38:07 PM
Matthew 5:17-39
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on February 10, 2011, 02:05:54 PM
This thread is so full of LOL that it's just - I had to share.
http://www.metafilter.com/100417/Hes-classy

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I feel like there's got to be more to this story. As it stands, the story is: "BREAKING: Married Politician Flirts." That cannot be the reason he resigned.

I eagerly await the future headline: "EXCLUSIVE: Former Congressman's Nazi Dungeon Orgy Slave Furry Poop Parties."
posted by lesli212 at 10:54 AM on February 10 [13 favorites +] [!]

LOVE.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 10, 2011, 03:15:14 PM
Nazi Dungeon Orgy Slave Furry Poop parties? Well ... don't all Republican members of Congress have those?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 10, 2011, 03:17:31 PM
Also, this?

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The Whelk said what I was going to say, so I shall point and laugh at Christopher Lee. Count Dooku is the worst Star Wars character ever!!!!
posted by Mister_A at 7:43 AM on February 10

So wrong.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on February 10, 2011, 03:51:42 PM
He's not even the worst in the new trilogy.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on February 14, 2011, 05:26:34 PM
If PBS is so great then it will do just fine by being privatized.

I am so fucking pissed off about this whole NPR/PBS thing I can barely form a coherent sentence. I actually called my congresscritter to make sure that he would be voting against it. Fat bit of fucking good that will do, I live in one of the, if not the only district in the Atlanta area with a Democratic congresscritter.

People - call your fucking congressman/woman. Yes, sign the MoveOn petition - but pick up the phone and make a call too. Or you can come explain to my son why he can't watch Sesame Street anymore.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 14, 2011, 05:44:34 PM
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If PBS is so great then it will do just fine by being privatized.

It worked for Congress, right?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: First Post on February 14, 2011, 07:14:33 PM
We don't have Mr Rogers to save it again, unfortunately (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q)

(I love this video every time. In a world of assholes, his methods are very instructive...watch how easily he disarms and takes down a whole roomful of 'em, like an Aikido master of niceness)

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on February 14, 2011, 08:09:25 PM
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If PBS is so great then it will do just fine by being privatized.

It worked for Congress, right?

:galm:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 14, 2011, 10:42:49 PM
We don't have Mr Rogers to save it again, unfortunately (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q)

(I love this video every time. In a world of assholes, his methods are very instructive...watch how easily he disarms and takes down a whole roomful of 'em, like an Aikido master of niceness)



Well thanks to the miracle of the Internet ... we DO have Mr. Rogers to speak again. Send this to every member of congress. :D
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on February 15, 2011, 06:25:07 AM
We don't have Mr Rogers to save it again, unfortunately (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q)

(I love this video every time. In a world of assholes, his methods are very instructive...watch how easily he disarms and takes down a whole roomful of 'em, like an Aikido master of niceness)



Confession: That made me cry a little bit. Happy tears though. Thanks for posting it. Nice way to start my day.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: First Post on February 15, 2011, 06:32:22 AM
We don't have Mr Rogers to save it again, unfortunately (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q)

(I love this video every time. In a world of assholes, his methods are very instructive...watch how easily he disarms and takes down a whole roomful of 'em, like an Aikido master of niceness)



Confession: That made me cry a little bit. Happy tears though. Thanks for posting it. Nice way to start my day.

np man, I love sharing this stuff. He had a way of doing that...here's my other favorite Mr Rogers clip. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upm9LnuCBUM) A room full of smarmy Hollywood cutthroats, totally reduced to tears? It took him ten seconds.



Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on February 16, 2011, 05:26:35 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on April 12, 2011, 12:28:45 AM
oh god what have i done

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Mom STOP SPENDING! Cut entitlements! Fire some czars! $14 trillion in debt. Unbelieveable!

Mom's Friend Yes, and I see Obama wants to raise the debt ceiling??? When will our politicians get a clue!!!!

Liz The only way the debt can be taken down is if they do all of that, plus cut the military AND raise taxes.

Mom No, I pay enough taxes thank you very much. Just too many government programs, too much frivilous spending.

Liz Well, I didn't say YOUR taxes. That $700B tax cut extension wouldn't have affected you and would have put a nice dent in the deficit. Which entitlements do you mean? Social Security, Medicare, and Defense ALONE are 59.6% of the entire FY 2012 spending package. If these three are off the table you literally have to cut *every single other government expenditure* to balance the budget just for ONE YEAR. I don't think voters will ever allow those to be cut, so what other option is there?

I did math to get my numberses.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on April 12, 2011, 12:30:01 AM
But really, what does she think?  Firing some czars and cutting welfare is going to save a trillion dollars a year?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2011, 05:05:56 AM
Well, I mean, Big Government, what do we have, a few thousand czars?  (Smoke that, Imperial Russia!)  That payroll's gotta add up.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 12, 2011, 08:45:33 AM
But really, what does she think?  Firing some czars and cutting welfare is going to save a trillion dollars a year?

Yeah, that's what they've been told. They also get told that illegal immigrants are bad for the economy, and that terrorists are a threat to the country, that our government is their enemy, that liberty equals unfettered capitalism, and that they can get everything they want without having to pay anything for it. They get told it over and over again until they believe it. It's straight out of the Joseph Goebbels School of Communications at Yale.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on April 12, 2011, 08:57:08 AM
The evil genius here is that corporate taxes and rich people's taxes are lower than ever but somehow they've got their base convinced that it's not even conceivable we should raise them back up to where they were 10 or 20 years ago. Or that we can cut defense/military spending at all, which is ridiculous. Just those two things would make a massive dent in the shortfall.

I am at the point - okay granted I am supremely irritable and short-tempered right now, but even so - I have almost no patience left for any person I have to deal with that skews right-wing. People that support this bullshit because they're swallowing the propaganda are screwing over everyone else and the country. It's fucking me up pretty badly because one side of my family who I love and are nothing but nice to me and never even talk politics to me, they believe this stuff, and it makes me not want to associate with them at all because THEY ARE COMPLICIT, breaks my heart. I used to think there was merit on both sides and reach out and compromise and blah blah blah - no.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 12, 2011, 10:54:41 AM
No. I agree.

Although I think speaking simple truths to simple people, while it may be ineffective, is satisfying.

I guess I don't mind burning bridges. Even with family members.




...


I like burning things.


:knotty:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on April 12, 2011, 11:11:22 AM
To continue...

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Mom I think voters know what's at stake here. Maybe cuts across the board would be good. Restructuring, eliminating programs that aren't working and simply taking away sooo much power the government has. They are supposed to protect us and keep us safe, not feed us and pay our doctor bills. People should be looking to themselves to survive, not the government.

:doh:  Voters knowing stuff.  Heh.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2011, 11:41:05 AM
She does know that tax burden goes up as insurance coverage levels go down, right?  The ER is farking expensive, police and fire department response to avoidable medical calls is farking expensive, and so on.  It's also not good for you if your neighbors can't afford healthcare and wind up with something contagious.

And if people can't get food any other way, you'd better believe that they're going to rob you, and an NRA membership will not be able to protect you, either.  There are countries like that, and very few right-wingers would want to live in any of them.  Somalia, for instance.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 12, 2011, 12:28:33 PM
Logic ain't gonna work. They believe (again, because they've been told repeatedly) that things are expensive because of government interference, and with no government things will be cheaper.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on April 12, 2011, 02:06:03 PM
If you have the bigger gun it is.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 12, 2011, 02:15:01 PM
Back on thread - This is relevant (http://www.springerlink.com/content/267588w86712q264/). Fascinating article. I'll try to host it somewhere for the tl.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2011, 02:28:43 PM
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things are expensive because of government interference, and with no government things will be cheaper.

Just think of how much $$$ we'd save if we got rid of pesky traffic regulation!  Oh, we have hundreds and hundreds of pages of traffic regulations, and what a burden on the average American.  We can trust drivers to do without it because the economic risk of not driving responsibility is so much higher than the potential benefit.

So no more expensive road signs, painted lines, traffic lights, etc.  Deregulation never goes wrong.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 12, 2011, 02:33:43 PM
I'm an empiricist. I say we test that hypothesis.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2011, 02:57:14 PM
I dunno.  I suspect the right wing drives a larger percentage of the SUVs and full-size pickup trucks -- and with that self-entitlement thing, they probably do the most speeding, too.

:uncertain:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Talix on April 12, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
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Due to the sequence of cognitive development, we have developed an "object bias" – a tendency to treat processes as objects. This object bias can become a mental block, preventing us from adopting appropriate mental models to analyze climate change.

I would argue that this object bias prevents us from adopting appropriate mental models to analyze LOTS of things...I don't know if it's the object/process dichotomy or a discrete/codependent one (the idea that issues can be handled individually/the idea that changing one thing necessarily effects others), but people don't seem to be able to deal with ideas that aren't easily condensed into soundbites.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2011, 03:18:15 PM
There's also a very common thing, all over the world, where left-wingers tend to see a problem and adopt some method for solving it, or for contributing to a solution, without doing adequate analysis of the problem or this theoretical method. 

Meanwhile, the right-wingers tend to adopt theories that, to their perception, decrease their personal responsibility while increasing their personal freedom, and they have no cognitive dissonance about whether anyone else's personal freedom is reduced.  Because, you know, it's dog-eat-dog.

So left-wingers tend to adopt unworkable or unhelpful solutions, and right-wingers tend to deny problems that they might personally be expected to make sacrifices for.  It's an awesome combination.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on April 12, 2011, 03:26:33 PM
I thought everyone just followed the "if it doesn't make any sense or causes another bigger problem to do that " rule book.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 12, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
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Due to the sequence of cognitive development, we have developed an "object bias" – a tendency to treat processes as objects. This object bias can become a mental block, preventing us from adopting appropriate mental models to analyze climate change.

I would argue that this object bias prevents us from adopting appropriate mental models to analyze LOTS of things...I don't know if it's the object/process dichotomy or a discrete/codependent one (the idea that issues can be handled individually/the idea that changing one thing necessarily effects others), but people don't seem to be able to deal with ideas that aren't easily condensed into soundbites.

Yes, exactly. It also explains the "math is hard" thing that is so darn common.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2011, 03:36:07 PM
Schools teach agreeing and repeating much more than they teach thinking.  Math is hard if it makes no sense to you and you just try to memorize as much as you can.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on April 12, 2011, 04:27:36 PM
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things are expensive because of government interference, and with no government things will be cheaper.

Just think of how much $$$ we'd save if we got rid of pesky traffic regulation!  Oh, we have hundreds and hundreds of pages of traffic regulations, and what a burden on the average American.  We can trust drivers to do without it because the economic risk of not driving responsibility is so much higher than the potential benefit.

So no more expensive road signs, painted lines, traffic lights, etc.  Deregulation never goes wrong.
I'm an empiricist. I say we test that hypothesis.

This might not be the best example to choose, because there is some value in reevaluating traffic control. There have been tests, and traffic flows smoother, there are less accidents, and fuel is saved. I posted a video here a while back about some town in Europe that did away with traffic lights - remember that? There's limitations of course, but I just hate to see this idea trashed in the context of this conversation. I think it's an idea that is totally underrated and rarely even considered.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2011, 04:44:46 PM
Redesigning traffic control, sure.  Doing away with it, not so much.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 12, 2011, 05:05:24 PM
Yeah, you are right, mo, that stuff is really interesting. Unfortunately it can't get tested. Because really, when people say they "want less regulation" what they mean is they "want to drive as fast as they can all the time."

Interesting bit of this going on just down the road in Santa Barbara. A lot of the central city streets are really narrow. Laid out in the 1880s etc. Since so many people started buying fucking huge SUVs and trucks to drive around in some of them are downright scary. City council tried to ameliorate this by starting a program of building 'traffic calming' features, like traffic circles and curb extensions on the corners. One of the side effects of this is, incidentally, fewer stop signs. However, people went (and I'm not being hyperbolic here) fucking apeshit. A half dozen candidates for City Council ran for the last election on the platform of 'no more traffic calming.' And backed by a whole lot of bizarre Texas millionaire money a couple of them actually won seats. And they scuttled the traffic calming, and are now going, duh, what now, because they are complete freaking monkeys who don't belong in a position of responsibility but enough people were exercised about not maybe getting to drive as fast as they want to elect them. Gaaaaaah, I have to really stop talking about this stuff. It just makes me so angry.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on April 12, 2011, 05:28:51 PM
 :lol:

Sorry, not laughing at you, I just empathize with the anger thing.

I don't think metro area systems could be changed very much. Some of the more radical designs could only work in rural areas, or small urban areas, but when you think of the magnitude of what those small changes could add up to when multiplied my millions of intersections, it really is a lot of gas that could be saved, pollution reduced, etc.

I've been watching my gas mileage closely since I now have a car that tells me how many mpg I'm getting at a given moment, and it becomes obvious really fast where all the gas is going. I would be driving much slower if I could get away with it, and I have slowed down a lot, slower acceleration from stops especially, and coasting down hills, but everyone else is driving the same as ever and doesn't understand when someone like me is not driving as fast as possible. I was behind a truck the other day that had a bumper sticker that said something like "Drill more! Drill now!" and he was driving like a mad man, leaving a big black cloud every time he floored it.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on April 12, 2011, 05:35:38 PM
Oh yeah, forgot to mention: Obama is raising the price of gas so you'll have to ride his train. Overheard at work.

 :banghead:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2011, 05:43:44 PM
Many traffic calming techniques are actually traffic infuriating techniques.  One thing about behavioral control is that if the subject knows what you're trying to do, then you'd better secretly be using reverse psychology.  Around here, they do traffic calming by (A) making new roads serpentine, in an effort to make them less attractive shortcuts off of main roads, and (B) re-timing the traffic lights to create more stops, so you can't just drive and drive from one green light to another.

These are both stupid but for different reasons.  They put in these new serpentine roads where they expect future development.  Then they make the speed limit, say, 30 MPH.  People still use them as shortcuts and are just lazy about staying in their lanes when the road winds back and forth.  Then the state comes in and says, actually, the law says the speed limit is determined by how many entrances and exits there are to the road per half mile; this road has almost nothing built on it yet, so we're raising the speed limit.  And then it's a farking disaster.

The traffic light timing thing is just horrific.  Seriously.  I would be tempted to vote for someone who wanted to put the timing back so that if you drive the speed limit from one light to the next, you keep getting green lights.  I understand they don't want people to arrive at the intersection during the light cycle and think that if they just speed to the next intersection, they'll still make that green light, too, but this is not the solution.

Traffic circles, used properly, are almost always vastly superior to four-way stops (with lights or with signs).  In Michigan, traffic circles are not used properly.  There's a newish one downtown that would be good except that it's small, and they landscaped it to have a small hill in the center, covered with flowers.  This means that drivers looking to enter the rotary can't tell if there's an oncoming vehicle partway around the circle, because they can't see across it.  That leads to hesitant entrances, which ruins the flow, and minor accidents -- and a minor accident inside the rotary pretty much closes the entire intersection for twenty minutes, minimum.

The other rotaries around here are even worse.  It's pretty sad.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on April 13, 2011, 02:42:37 AM
My brother was getting tailgated on the way back to my house today -- he was going 40 in a 35, and got pissed and slowed down to 30, then 20 when we hit the 25 mph school zone.

We started talking about this exact subject -- my feeling is that the real problem is people's general inattentiveness while driving -- i.e. viewing their vehicle as an office/lunchroom/babysitter/vanity/entertainment center -- when they should just be DRIVING.

SO many of the traffic issues i see have little to do with traffic law -- it's more about old people who can't see very well, teenagers texting, adults talking on their phones or shoving food down their gullets or yelling at their kids.

I like to glance at other drivers on the freeway as I pass them to see what it is they are doing that is making them drive 55 in the last lane, or that group cockblocking where three cars are all parallel to each other and you can't get around them. It's like most people don't see the road beyond the car that's right in front of them, if not further ahead of the hood of their own car.

I especially hate it when people try to turn left into a five lane street from a parking lot -- it would be so much faster to just turn right and go around the block, rather than wait for an opening in traffic, and causing a line of cars to back up behind them. We have so many stupid driveways in commercials areas around here where the only way to get into a place is to enter from a right turn, but people still try to turn left. Etc.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on April 13, 2011, 04:20:07 AM
I grew up with traffic circles so they're second nature to me, but everywhere I've lived that they've put in traffic circles, people are downright STUPID about how to use them.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on April 13, 2011, 08:43:40 AM
People here don't know how to use traffic circles.  They don"t understand that people in the circle have the right of way.  They will zoom up to the circle and just poop themselves into it whether anyone is there already or not.  When I still had my Passat I played "go ahead dumbass" with a few.  The car was only worth like 2500 dollars.

The biggest driving stupidity here is people in the wrong lane stopping in the middle of traffic until someone lets them over 3 or 4 lanes to make that right turn from the far left lane.  I hate those people so much.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 13, 2011, 09:01:56 AM
For traffic circles to work, you have to do certain things correctly, like:

1)  You have to have a fair number of them.  People who don't use a traffic circle at least once every month or two are going to mess it up when they finally encounter one.  Having half a dozen in the state is a waste of time.

2)  You have to have signs warning people that there's a traffic circle ahead and explaining the right of way.  Really, it's far less complicated than a four-way stop.  I realize 75% of drivers can't understand the four-way stop, but my point is that we use a lot of four-way stops, so this is not an excuse to not use rotaries.

3)  Traffic has to enter and exit the rotary tangentially.  Here, traffic often enters the rotary on roads that are perpendicular to the rotary, meaning you have to make a right-angle turn to enter it.  This means traffic in the rotary will always be moving faster than traffic trying to enter the rotary.  This is the design equivalent of pure stupidity.

4)  Your rotary should be designed with a speed limit close to the speed limit of the roads it connects to.  This means that it has to be big enough to permit people to drive around it at that speed and that it can't connect to both 55 MPH roads and 30 MPH roads.  At the very least, the 55 MPH road should curve to meet the rotary tangentially and have its speed limit reduced well before you get there. 

We have a small 15 MPH rotary here on a 55 MPH road, connecting it to a 30 MPH road, and people coming from the 55 MPH road not infrequently wind up driving directly across the center of the rotary, especially in the winter.  Honestly, whoever designed and approved that thing should be forced to live in the center of it.

5)  A rotary can never have traffic lights.

6)  There's a way to do a rotary that has multiple lanes and is connected to roads that also have multiple lanes.  It is complicated for drivers who are not used to it.  It needs very clear signs and lane markings.  The university here has one of these, and most drivers who use it just drive across the paved area to wherever they want to go, regardless of how it's supposed to work.  Once again, the center of the rotary blocks your view of other drivers, and the circle is too small, so it's kind of like playing chicken on a carnival ride.

What kills me is that there are tons of manuals and studies explaining all this stuff, and it's the kind of thing that civil engineers study in school, so presumably the mistakes are made by politicians and managers who don't know shit and don't trust their experts.  The rotaries here are consistently so wrong that they're like bridges installed upside down.  You can still sort of use them, but it's embarrassing.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on April 13, 2011, 09:37:47 AM
#4   :lol:

and about the crossing a million lanes of traffic by making everyone stop to let you over, that wasn't specific to traffic circles, it mostly applies to straight multiple lane roads.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 13, 2011, 10:38:52 AM
Oh, yeah.  Big time.

Around here, a lot of four-lane two-way roads have a center turn lane.  No one understands how that works.  You put on your signal, you move into the turn lane just before you apply your brakes, and you turn.  You can also make a left turn onto the main road by turning into the center turn lane and then waiting to merge.

You don't drive down the turn lane for fifty yards.  You don't use it to pass.  You don't apply your brakes, slow to 10 MPH, and then enter the turn lane.  The point of that lane is that you DON'T interfere with through traffic while slowing and/or waiting to make your turn.

And if there isn't a turn lane, you can't perform this maneuver.  You can't drive into the oncoming traffic's lefthand lane and just pretend it's a turn lane. 

Other things no one around here understands, even though they're very simple:  Blinking red lights.  School zones.  Construction zones.  Turn signals.  Crosswalks.  Turning onto a multi-lane road.Turns made at red lights.

These last two . . . oy.

When turning onto a multilane road, the law here requires that you turn into the 'like' lane.  So if you're coming from a single-lane road or the righthand lane, you must turn into the near lane.  You can't go from your lane to the middle or far lane of the road you're turning onto.  If there's no one around, that's one thing, but technically you have to turn and then change lanes, which requires several considerations of right-of-way.  And instead you get people merging randomly without yielding, messing up people across the intersection who are trying to turn left into THEIR lane (that's not your lane just because you're making a righthand turn), or, my most commonly encountered problem, I wind up stuck behind someone who's waiting forever to turn right into the far lane instead of just moving into the open near lane and then moving over.

And when there's, say, two turn lanes on Street A leading to two lanes on Street B, around here you get people randomly trying to go from Lane 1 on Street A to Lane 2 on Street B, despite the fact that someone else is rightfully driving there.

As for the other . . . here, they let you make a left on red.  But only under very specific conditions:  You have to be turning from the near lane of a one-way street onto the near lane of another one-way street.  Otherwise, it's just running a red light.  But not only do people do it to and from whatever lane they feel like, but once they got the idea that they could do this, they started doing it at regular red lights at intersections of two-way roads. 

And yet the police won't beat these people.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 13, 2011, 11:00:19 AM
My problem with circles these days is I keep wanting to go left when I enter one. Still! Even after ten years! Driving in Australia was a piece of cake.

Check out this editorial:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-banks-20110412,0,6479738.column

Now look at the comments: read the one by "edskizer." Yeah.
If he's not a troll, and admittedly he could be a troll, this illustrates the problem in a nutshell. Psychotic, really. This guy is seeing things, and he's allowed to drive a car. That's frightening.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 13, 2011, 11:21:27 AM
MEANWHILE, TEXAS DOES IT RIGHT:
http://streetsblog.net/2011/04/13/local-lawmakers-dont-mess-with-texas-cyclists-and-pedestrians/

:txflag: :txflag: :txflag:

Edit: Parts of Texas, but it's a start ;)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on April 13, 2011, 01:02:19 PM
I just hate other motorists.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: First Post on April 13, 2011, 01:51:50 PM
That's Denton tho, it's like mini-Austin.

Around here if you hit a cyclist you could probably be acquitted on the "he needed killin'" defense.


Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on May 16, 2011, 06:19:57 PM
Today, Trump announced that he wasn't going to run for President after all, but he still managed to use the occasion and free publicity to claim that he was the strongest candidate.

In other words, 'I could win if I wanted, but I don't feel like it.'  :lol:  Eh.  He's no Ross Perot.

Mitt Romney announced that he is running, but he's no Ross Perot either.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on May 17, 2011, 06:33:16 AM
Trump =  :clown:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on May 17, 2011, 06:37:58 AM
Trump's always been an absurd attention whore.  He has no interest in doing the hard work, and he really, really hates taking any serious lumps in the press.  His business career is largely built on hype and image -- he's one step away from being a con man -- so pretending to be a politician is no different to him than hosting a TV show.

He's a clown, but he's a clown who knows how to cash in.  It's kind of amusing that so many Republicans thought he might be a viable candidate, just because he won't even say if he's a Republican.  He mostly donates money to Democrats.  He's not in favor of regulation or taxation, but nowadays there aren't many politicians who are.  Otherwise, he basically has a live and let live attitude that's not very GOP.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on May 17, 2011, 10:20:54 AM
Newt 'Sad Bastard' Gingrich said he was against any form of radical and/or compulsory-mandate alteration of national health care, and now the GOP is going after him fairly viciously.  Honestly, it's one of the less stupid things Gingrich has said (not to mention that it's actually conservative, not that the GOP remembers or cares what that word means), but never mind.

I liked this idiocy right here (quoting CNN quoting the National Review:

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"He can't help himself. Gingrich prefers extravagant lambasting when a mere distancing would do, and the over-arching theoretical construct to a mundane pander. He is drawn irresistibly to operatic overstatement – sometimes brilliant, always interesting, and occasionally downright absurd," Rich Lowry, the editor of the National Review, wrote Monday.

Yeah, you tell him to avoid bombast!  You grandiloquent volksmenner, you.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 02, 2011, 12:15:13 PM
Headline today:  Bachmann sounds off in Iowa

Yeah, she always sounds off to me.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on July 02, 2011, 01:38:56 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on July 02, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
 :lol: :rollin:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on July 05, 2011, 12:59:28 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 08, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
I'm sure there's a gigantic flamewar raging in many places over this, but is this not maddening?  It's an article about a woman who's called the founder of the Tea Party (http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/jenny-beth-martin-the-522344.html).

Without too much comment:

- She got her start in this because she wanted to repeal Obama's mortgage bailout.

- She and her husband lost their own five-bedroom home when they couldn't pay the mortage.

- They also lost their matching Lincoln Navigator SUVs.  Ye gods, what sane couple would buy TWO Lincoln Navigators?  That's slightly more unnecessarily ostentatious than buying two in-ground swimming pools for your backyard.

- They declared bankruptcy.  Article doesn't say how much they owed, but their back taxes alone were over $680,000.

- They blame her husband's "unscrupulous former business partner".  Her husband tried to keep his temp agency in business by using his credit cards to float it.  :eyeroll:

- Now her husband repairs computers, and she makes a mere $72,000 a year salary from the Tea Party.

- They "can't even afford to buy a car", so instead they rent one for $27 a day.  Uh, I hope that's not every day, because that's over $800 a month, which is more than a non-Lincoln Navigator new car should cost you.


She's not a Birther, not racist, doesn't hate Democrats, and isn't against gay marriage, apparently.  So she's not as bad as a lot of the people who have claimed the Tea Party for their own.  But she doesn't sound like a fiscal policy genius.  I'd like to hear her explain why Obama's mortgage bailout was such a bad idea.

"Its principles, she said, are simple. It wants the government to embrace fiscal responsibility, calls for a constitutionally limited government and urges free-market economics."

We already have a constitutionally limited government, which we call 'the government'.  There's really no such thing as free-market economics in the real world, and international internet-speed speculation markets have destroyed the notion of market self-adjustment, even if you're not afraid of mega-conglomerates cornering large sectors (which you obviously should be).  Most people who talk about fiscal responsibility are hot about forcing balanced budgets, which just shows they don't understand the subject (or really just want lower taxes for themselves, and to hell with the consequences elsewhere), and this woman and her husband couldn't manage their own affairs or live within their own means . . . .

Oy.  Get off the stage.  You're not helping.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on August 08, 2011, 07:33:17 PM
Having just returned from the pharmacy with the generic pseudoephedrine I had to show my photo ID to get.... I need to rant somewhere about this enormous recall of Tylenol products due to mold and other contaminants.

Because we don't need more government oversight of business, after all. It's putting a stranglehold on capitalism's ability to wantonly poison people.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 08, 2011, 07:40:32 PM
The mortgage fiasco was 95% the result of insufficient regulation and oversight, anyway.  People go to the banks to find out how big a loan they're qualified for.  They don't expect the bank to give you a loan you probably won't be able to pay.  Because that would be stupid.

And if you tell people you'll let them have a $300k house instead of a $200k house, of course most of them will want the nicer house.  I mean, duh.  The banks are the financial experts.  People didn't trick the banks into giving them oversized mortgages, and the banks did intentionally trick people into taking oversized mortgages.

Bailing out homeowners wasn't a bad idea.  Bailing out the banks without slapping them with massive regulation was a bad idea.  And making the banks eventually pay back their bailout . . . over, say, 30 years, at, say, 6% interest -- that would have been an extremely good and fair idea.

Especially since we went through this exact same bullshit 25 years ago with family farms.  But we learn nothing.  People blamed the farmers in the 80s, too.

Meanwhile, S&P gave AAA rating to all the junk mortgage debt bonds but downgrades the US debt in order to punish the feds for threatening to regulate them.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on August 08, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
I meant to post this -- Chief mortgage lender at Tacoma bank charged with fraud (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Chief-mortgage-lender-at-Tacoma-bank-charged-with-1741543.php#ixzz1UUKu66zC)

I wonder if this is just a fluke, or if they'll start going after the bigger banks?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on August 08, 2011, 07:54:28 PM
Also: S&P Blames GOP For U.S. Credit Problem, Associated Press, Politico Cover It Up (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=94858#ixzz1UUM6CpdI)

Ironic that they are blaming the AP and Politico for misleading headlines, when this one is just a badly written.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 08, 2011, 08:39:08 PM
Yeah, it looks like S&P is blaming the GOP for the AP.

Which, I mean, even I wouldn't quite go that far.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 09, 2011, 12:19:26 PM
And . . . according to polls, 75% of Americans believe all members of Congress deserve to be replaced, almost 60% of Americans believe specifically that their own Congressional reps should be dumped (a record high), and disapproval of the GOP has also hit a record high, with 60% of Americans saying they have a negative view of the Republican Party and only 33% saying they have a favorable view.  (It's 47% for and 47% against the Democrats.)

How's that Grover Norquist / Tea Party sandwich working out for you chum lumps now, eh?



Seriously, how do they not remember the last time they tried this same bullshit, under Gingrich, and what a disaster THAT was?  If you're that willfully stupid, you deserve to be eaten by history, and good riddance.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 12, 2011, 09:21:46 AM
And . . . do-little Texas governor Rick Perry is allegedly the smash-out leader of the GOP pack of presidential hopefuls.  He reportedly is polling approval from a staggering 15% of likely Republican voters.

Really puts the also-rans into perspective, if approval by 15% of Republican voters puts you out in the lead.  Especially since Perry's not even announcing his candidacy until tomorrow.  And Perry wasn't even at the debate.  Although, of course, that may have helped.

Perry, Schmerry -- I wish this meant we could officially start completely ignoring Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 21, 2011, 09:06:01 PM
So . . . Rick 'The Dick' Santorum wants Google to falsify their search results in order to change the highest-rank hits for "santorum" from what everyone knows it means to his name, instead.

Dude, that would not be an improvement.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 29, 2011, 12:34:42 PM
Making the internet rounds today:



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Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 01, 2011, 01:32:36 PM
From CNN's "Political Ticker":

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Sarah Palin called Herman Cain the “flavor of the week” when he won a closely-watched straw poll in Florida, but the former Godfather's Pizza executive said Friday his particular flavor has substance.

“I happen to believe there’s iced milk, and then there’s Haagan-Daas Black Walnut,” Cain said on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno". “Substance, that’s the difference. I got the substance. I’m the Black Walnut. It lasts longer than a week.”

OK . . . FIRST of all, it's "Häagen-Dazs".  Second of all, if you respond to something like that that Palin said, you're just dignifying her yapping with your response.

Third . . . it lasts longer than a week?  Fourth, Häagen-Dazs is a totally fake pretentious brand, and my first search for their Black Walnut flavor revealed that (A) it's a limited edition, so it may last longer than a week, but not for all that long, and (B) reviewers repeatedly said "This is a flavor for people who love nuts."

:huh:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on October 03, 2011, 05:38:56 PM
Well he was responding to Palin, so there you go.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 06, 2011, 12:15:35 PM
Wall Street . . . clogs.  Meanwhile, Herman Cain continues his out-of-touch inarticulate rambling (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/05/cain-not-rich-no-job-blame-yourself/).  I mean, he's not Perry, but ye gods.

Quote
Allowing the banks had a "big part" in the 2008 economic crisis, the candidate, who's known for his bombast and has been rising in national polls pointed out, "We're in 2011, okay?"

So apparently he thinks the statute of limitations on any kind of financial crime or debt is less than three years.  Sweet! 


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When I was growing up I was blessed to have had parents. That didn't teach me to be jealous of anybody and didn't teach me to be jealous of somebody.

So we know he wasn't decanted from a beaker, and we know that no one taught him how jealousy works.


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It is not a person's fault because they succeeded. It is a person's fault if they failed.

Remember, kids, if you succeed, it's just luck, but if you fail, that's because you suck.

Powerful, inspirational stuff.  And this guy is running as The Businessman.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Psidefect on October 06, 2011, 04:39:52 PM
"Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself." -- Herman Cain

The man is a douche bag.

There needs to be a reality show where all these republican candidates are disguised, given an average resume (admittedly I have no idea how to formally define that) and filmed while they try to get a job. That would be my new favorite show evar.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on October 06, 2011, 04:46:52 PM
"Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself." -- Herman Cain

The man is a douche bag.

There needs to be a reality show where all these republican candidates are disguised, given an average resume (admittedly I have no idea how to formally define that) and filmed while they try to get a job. That would be my new favorite show evar.

Well, if they have a degree from a prestigious institution you would need to replace it with a degree from a State University that didn't cost above the average amount of $$ spent for the year they went to school ... to start with. If they joined a fraternity because their daddy joined it, that has to be replaced with an equivalent non-profit/volunteer extra curricular.

You would need to look at the resume, but it could be done.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 06, 2011, 05:15:55 PM
I've seen a couple of episodes of The Apprentice, and I've known up-and-coming (so to speak) young execs fresh out of Wharton and blah blah blah.  And, yes, 75% of them are people you would not want to rely on to feed your dog while you were on vacation, much less would you want them to handle your investments if you knew them.

The #1 thing that brings success in business is trying.  Perseverance.  It's a lottery that's won by buying enough tickets.  Some people get lucky early, but most people have to keep trying and trying no matter how many times they flame out.

The #2 thing that brings success in business is having a ton of money to begin with.

The #3 thing that brings success in business is gall.  A lack of self-doubt.  Believing you're entitled to succeed.  If you feel bad about firing people or screwing creditors / customers / competitors, if you're embarrassed to go out and hawk a product you know is crap or give a cheese-eating speech to stockholders while lying through your buzzwords, if you think quality of product is more important than marketing -- then you will not likely succeed.


These are also characteristics that tend to lead to success in politics.  In both cases, intelligence and analytical thinking are not high on the list.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Talix on October 07, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
I think "who you know" is a sufficient, if not necessary, part of it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 07, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
:hmm:

Yeah, definitely.

That might be #4, but sometimes it's the same as starting out with a lot of money.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on October 07, 2011, 03:38:55 PM
Blind luck can sometimes trump all of those (but not often)--the ol' right place at the right time trick.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2011, 09:58:49 AM
Well, Michelle 'Spasticrazy' Bachmann appears to be on her way out.  She apparently used a campaign strategy of focusing on Iowa and booting New Hampshire, even though by the time New Hampshire's in the news no one even cares about Iowa anymore.  Her campaign staff is reportedly starting to abandon her, which is a bad sign.  I mean, the people who support you in the Iowa caucus are normally paid to do so, but they get paid a lot less than your own campaign staff.

Meanwhile, it's become clear that Herman Cain doesn't understand politics, in a pretty fundamental way.  He keeps getting tripped up by questions about abortion.  He seems to be saying that he's Pro-Life, personally, but Pro-Choice, in terms of policy, but that he'd appoint judges who were against abortion rights.  Not very cohesive, and he's been . . . less than eloquent in trying to explain it.  Go figure.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on October 22, 2011, 11:39:20 AM
He's trying to pander to both sides but isn't smart enough to get away with it. I want the Repubs to implode so violently that the party never recovers and I want them all to choke on the poison they've been peddling on behalf of domestic religio-terrorist fundamentalists.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2011, 01:56:32 PM
It would be for the best.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on October 22, 2011, 10:17:58 PM
Indeed
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 23, 2011, 07:58:14 AM
They're in a pickle with their choice of candidates, but I don't think there's anything that could effectively kill the party. And even if it were to die, it would just be replaced with something worse - like the TP. In a way, the 'pubs have become sort of a watered-down version of the Right's desires. Romney is a good example of that. I'll be damned if I know how the election is going to end up, but at the moment, he would be my guess.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2011, 08:29:11 AM
I don't know what the party is thinking, to be honest.  Romney is far and away the most realistic candidate, but Bush Jr was not a realistic candidate, and they forced him in and kept him pretty much under their control.  They've shown a willingness to downgrade from puppet to sockmonkey, and they got away with stealing two elections that way and got away with two terms without any disaster that bothered them. 

So, at this point, I'm not sure what restraint they have left.  Perry is a downgraded version of Bush Jr -- less snickering, even less brainpower, more dangerously earnest, unfortunately even less likeable -- but I'm sure they look at him and think he just plugs into the same socket.  Maybe he does.

Romney is willing to pander furiously, but he's a little too bright to make the party happy, especially since he's willing to be awfully liberal.  I don't think the party will want him unless they run out of other options.

Huntsman is probably the one they should have backed, but (A) he's also Mormon, and (B) he's also smart, and (C) he's also pretty moderate.  Worse, he plays nice with Democrats.  He or Romney would probably be their best shots to win, but I think the Republicans are just too cocky.  Right now, I think they're going to try to push Perry.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on October 24, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
I want the Repubs to implode so violently that the party never recovers and I want them all to choke on the poison they've been peddling on behalf of domestic religio-terrorist fundamentalists.

Agreed.  The Democrats too.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on October 24, 2011, 12:03:50 PM
I want the Repubs to implode so violently that the party never recovers and I want them all to choke on the poison they've been peddling on behalf of domestic religio-terrorist fundamentalists.

Agreed.  The Democrats too.

Agreed
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on October 24, 2011, 12:06:05 PM
Both of my US Senators are Democrats (Senators Klobuchar and Franken) and both need basic lessons in fundamental Constitutional concepts such as freedom of speech and separation of powers.

Show me a sitting US Senator that doesn't, however.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 30, 2011, 06:58:29 PM
I don't know who's pushing the slogans right now, but I keep hearing right-wing folks saying that everyone is born free and government only takes our rights away.

Few babies are able to secure their rights.  WTF Mad Max paradise do these people envision?  Or are they saying we should be free until our fascist overlords notice we've been born?  If they hate our government so fundamentally, why don't they move to some other country that has a better one? 

Although, you know, any wealth procured under our government-fostered economy . . . you ought to leave that here.  Try the libertarian paradise of Somalia, most of which has no federal government and no taxation.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on October 30, 2011, 07:06:12 PM
And without Somalia, we'd have a much worse climate in the rest of the world.
/Ra-men.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: hajen on November 03, 2011, 08:39:09 PM
http://mlkshk.com/p/8ZPT
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 03, 2011, 11:46:25 PM
Consider the words marked sir.

Ignored, too.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 04, 2011, 08:39:12 AM
http://mlkshk.com/p/8ZPT

Awesome. Hmm, is there another source for this?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 08, 2011, 08:05:31 AM
WTF, Mississippi?  You're not big on thinking things through, are you.  Studies suggest anywhere from 30-80% of fertilized eggs don't implant in the uterine lining and are eliminated from the body.  It's entirely possible that many of those could be saved with medical intervention.  The amendment you're voting on would make failing to report to a doctor when you know you might be carrying a fertilized egg a potential act of negligent homicide.

The birthrate in Mississippi is currently around 45,000 per year, so a fairly conservative estimate is that an equal number of fertilized eggs fail to implant every year.  That means 45,000 new acts of negligent homicide in your state every year.  And it's not like things would be great if you could save them all.  Medical costs aside (and they would be staggering, possibly doubling public spending), probably the majority of those babies would be unplanned and unwanted.

And this isn't just slutty heathens we're talking about.  It includes Good Solid Christians who are attempting to procreate within marriage, yadda yadda.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on November 08, 2011, 12:50:05 PM
I am wondering if the additional list of negligent crimes/endangerment might include:

Smoking while possibly pregnant
Driving while possibly pregnant
Drinking while possibly pregnant

...

why yes, I do want you to put on this lovely red robe with a hood and wings on the side.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 08, 2011, 03:49:04 PM
Not taking prenatal vitamins because you could possibly become pregnant, even if you're a cloistered virgin nun...
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 09, 2011, 01:33:01 AM
I understand the measure failed
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on November 09, 2011, 09:40:13 AM
Thank Jesus?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on November 09, 2011, 12:59:53 PM
I'm putting this here even though I don't know this person's political views, but it was incredibly dumb.

At Girl Scouts last night we had a brief parental discussion about whether we would do the "God" part in the Girl Scout pledge.  Somebody asked if they had to say the Pledge of Allegiance at the elementary school, so that started a small discussion of the "under God" part and how McCarthyism wasn't a good reason to put that in.  One of the moms said "But he was a founding father."

Conservative Christian Homeschooling Mom who gets in daily arguments with Josh immediately looked at him like this:  :eek:  He hadn't heard the founding father statement and said, "Are you okay?"  She told us both the story later in the meeting.  :faceblam:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: TFJ on November 09, 2011, 01:19:41 PM
McCarthy was a founding father... of this america

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2011, 01:28:07 PM
(A)  I LOVE ":faceblam:" and will totally steal that.

(B) 
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One of the moms said "But he was a founding father."

Even if this were true, the biblical-infallibility concept intrinsic to that is an enormous rich vein of snark.  We should all keep sex slaves and ridicule Jesus.  It was popular with founding fathers, so put it in the Pledge!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on November 09, 2011, 01:30:18 PM
(A)  I LOVE ":faceblam:" and will totally steal that.

Meh, I totally stole it from Celegorm, I think.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2011, 01:40:56 PM
Oh.  Also.  Irony:  Condoleezza Rice on The Daily Show, talking about the Arab Spring, saying she said to Mubarak 'Reform now, before you have angry people in the streets."

:eyeroll:

I was a little sad Jon didn't jump to Occupy Wall Street, but he can't do everything.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on November 09, 2011, 02:49:30 PM
McCarthy was a founding father... of this america

Good point.  Now I'm scared shitless.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2011, 03:41:54 PM
Aw, you've been listening to Ann B. Coulter.  McCarthyism, though an appalling stain on our history, was just a lame retread of the first Red Scare, back when communism was a more direct domestic threat and homegrown communist terrorists were a common occurrence.  That, in turn, was a lame cultish version of the Anarchist movement that was just dying down.

From about the time of the Civil War to around the turn of the 20th Century was the Assassination Era, when anarchists, rebels, and bored disaffected nobodies got the idea that assassinations and terrorism were the way to bring about social change.  They influenced terrorists from John Wilkes Booth and maybe Charles Guiteau to Carrie Nation.

Islamic terrorists have never matched the kind of insanity in this country that the local anarchist and early communist did.  The gangsters of Prohibition overwhelmed them in the press, but in the early 1900s there would sometimes be dozens of political bombings attempted here in a given month.  Mostly they didn't amount to much, but it wasn't for a lack of fervor, and at no point were those kinds of problems solved through witch hunts and paranoia. 

It's always been popular to sell that crap to the more gullible commoners for political gain, though.


edit:  Can't spell!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Talix on November 09, 2011, 03:54:22 PM
McCarthyism, though an appalling stain on our history, was just a lame retread of the first Red Scare, back when communism was a more direct domestic threat and homegrown communist terrorists were a common occurrence.

I'm not sure my great great uncle had the luxury of considering its lameness when he was called to DC to testify.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2011, 04:08:51 PM
It was horrible and, as I said, appalling, but it was still lame.  That's never any comfort to people suffering through it.  The fearmongers over at Fox are mostly very, very lame, really sadly bad at rabblerousing, without style or wit or any compelling passion, but that doesn't make them less dangerous or foul.  Just also lame.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on November 09, 2011, 05:45:30 PM
Indeed (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=faceblam).  :D
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on November 09, 2011, 08:09:40 PM
Facebalm is something completely different.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 09, 2011, 08:51:11 PM
Indeed (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=faceblam).  :D
And I thought "apricate" would be my new word of the week.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2011, 09:34:00 PM
Quote
Facebalm is something completely different.

Until the third blink, I thought that said "Facegalm".
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on November 09, 2011, 09:56:11 PM
I actually have what I consider to be a respectable showing (http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Mr_Shifty) as far as definitions on Urban Dictionary.

I'd actually like to get a t-shirt with "SARCOPATH" on it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 09, 2011, 11:22:33 PM
:clap: :detta: :clap:

I like "sarcopath" A LOT. And yes, Pete is one.

And man, if half of what I heard about the Republican debate is true, this election is over already.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2011, 12:14:43 AM
:hmm:  Normally -- and I'm not arguing; I'm just saying -- sarco- means 'flesh'.  That pesky -path used to mean 'suffering' (psychopath originally meant 'soul-suffering', to indicate a person who is deeply disturbed) but nowadays can unfortunately mean 'disorder' or 'skill'.  I mean, why anyone would want to be called a 'homeopath' is beyond me; it sounds like someone who kills people they think look like them.  Damn, another doppleganger I must destroy!

Anyway.  I only remember this because when I was in biology, we thought sarcoblast was a hilarious word, although now I forget what it's actually supposed to be used to refer to.  Something to do with slime molds, or some such damned thing.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: First Post on November 10, 2011, 06:16:11 AM
Major victory here. (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/obama-administration-to-delay-new-15-cent-christmas-tree-fee/) Those damn socialists won't get away with taxin' our Christmas trees!

real shit gettin DONE

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2011, 09:17:40 AM
 
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And man, if half of what I heard about the Republican debate is true, this election is over already.

Jesus Democrat Christ.  After reading about it this morning, I want Bob Dole to consume them all with gaping jaws on fire of national TV.  It could really help the country's healing process.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 11, 2011, 01:57:12 PM
AP headline:  Cain tops three-way with Romney, Gingrich

:puke:


Even what they actually mean is pretty hard to stomach, frankly.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 26, 2011, 04:43:49 PM
Ann Coulter thinks we need another Kent State shooting (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201111260001?frontpage).

Quote
So at the moment anyway, I mean I don't know what's going to happen in New York today, but at the moment I'm not really worried of a movement like SDS which really swept a lot of the college campuses taking over. Of course if it does, just remember the lesson from my book: it just took a few shootings at Kent State to shut that down for good.

From November 17th. 

Bonus:  Says "the internets".
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on November 26, 2011, 05:08:25 PM
"it just took a few shootings at Kent State to shut that down for good"

 :lol:

What a douchenozzle.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 26, 2011, 06:50:47 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: TFJ on November 26, 2011, 07:09:41 PM
i find it nearly impossible to believe that people actually listen to her and the others like her. it seems so very clearly insane.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 26, 2011, 07:25:22 PM
I used to think the same thing with Laura Schlessinger.  Rush Limbaugh, OK, I get it -- he's always been like a cross between a sideshow attraction and a shock jock.  Not my thing, but I get it.  Old Dr Laura was always a painful nutbar and insanely hateful toward women and children, but good god people seemed to think she was Moses's little sister or something.

Ann Coulter's always been a hateful shithead, but it seems like any halfway Barbie-ish woman with a political soapbox will attract a strong following regardless of how stupid she is.  She just has to act confident and have good teeth.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on November 26, 2011, 07:28:56 PM
and a decent rack, don't forget that.  Oh, yeah, and good hair.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: First Post on November 26, 2011, 07:35:18 PM
Boondocks explained Ann Coulter already (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1seThIG34R8) (pretty sure I posted this before but always worth revisiting anyway)

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 26, 2011, 07:36:53 PM
:lol: 

Every time I see a clip from Fox and Friends on The Daily Show, I always think . . . they know it's not radio, right?  Because the three hosts for that show are freaky monsters of broadcasting.  Sometimes I almost can't process what they're blithering because seeing them is like being hit in the face with a blanket of warm chip fat.  It makes me try to clear my airways.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 27, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Boondocks explained Ann Coulter already (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1seThIG34R8) (pretty sure I posted this before but always worth revisiting anyway)

*dying over here*
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 29, 2011, 03:17:12 PM
So . . . it's sounding like Herman Cain will drop out of the race because of the affair he's accused of having carried on for years.

I guess this means Newt Gingrich will drop out of three races.

:popcorn:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on November 30, 2011, 03:36:20 AM
www.flickr.com/photos/30835791@N07/sets/72157614241935013/detail/

Republican clowns. I didn't want to copy/pasta one of the pics for a thumbnail because ... I don't know why.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 30, 2011, 10:02:10 AM
 :lol: :clap:

I love it. Best not to linger too long there though, for thar lie nightmares.

There's some good stuff in some of the artist's other sets:

Limbaugh the Hut (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30835791@N07/3360269679)

Rush Limbaugh 1st Commander in the Realm of the Flying Monkey Right (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30835791@N07/5495730900/)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on December 08, 2011, 03:29:05 PM
i was unaware of obamba's war on religion. the ad is pretty wtf.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/08/rick-perry-anti-gay-iowa-ad-divides-top-staff_n_1136587.html
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on December 08, 2011, 03:40:44 PM
What children can't pray in school?  Schools shouldn't endorse denominational metaphysical whatnot, but people can't even necessarily tell if you're praying.

If you want to sacrifice a goat at school and place the fat from its organs on the horns of the altar, then, no, school is not an appropriate place for that.  But a Christian kid can easily pray at school with no one the wiser (Jesus specifically instructed his followers not to pray in a manner that shows off that they're praying).  I bet it's harder for Muslim kids, and I bet Perry doesn't want them praying in school.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on December 08, 2011, 04:14:37 PM
What children can't pray in school?  Schools shouldn't endorse denominational metaphysical whatnot, but people can't even necessarily tell if you're praying.

If you want to sacrifice a goat at school and place the fat from its organs on the horns of the altar, then, no, school is not an appropriate place for that.  But a Christian kid can easily pray at school with no one the wiser (Jesus specifically instructed his followers not to pray in a manner that shows off that they're praying).  I bet it's harder for Muslim kids, and I bet Perry doesn't want them praying in school.

FTFY
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on December 08, 2011, 06:52:34 PM
What children can't pray in school?  Schools shouldn't endorse denominational metaphysical whatnot, but people can't even necessarily tell if you're praying.

If you want to sacrifice a goat at school and place the fat from its organs on the horns of the altar, then, no, school is not an appropriate place for that.  But a Christian kid can easily pray at school with no one the wiser (Jesus specifically instructed his followers not to pray in a manner that shows off that they're praying).  I bet it's harder for Muslim kids, and I bet Perry doesn't want them praying in schoolexistence.

FTFY
FTTROTWFTBOY
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on December 09, 2011, 08:00:29 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on December 09, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
Maybe this is all just a spelling error, and they mean preying, not "praying".
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2011, 03:50:15 PM
Oh, thank god, Gingrich caught his tiny dick in his giant zipper in front of the press.  And so far he's not backing down, either.

:popcorn:

Couldn't have happened to a smarter dumbass.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on December 16, 2011, 11:33:39 AM
After reading the news today, I learned some gunk.

Gingrich was a jackass in last night's debate and surely pissed off most of the military with his smug I Teach Them The Art Of War bullshit.  He also wants Congress to subpoena judges to force them to explain any unpopular decisions.  There's no way that could cause problems.  Maybe he'd like the executive branch to indefinitely detain reps and senators it doesn't like, too.  He also said "I'm very concerned about not appearing to be zany."

Bachmann is truly a lunatic.  Aside from miscounting how many elections she's won in the last five years (she was off by either 50% or 25%, depending on how strict you want to be), she said "I’m 55 years old. I spent 50 years as a real person."

:hmm:

Are those consecutive years?

Meanwhile, Perry promised to show up early for debates against Obama (:confused:) and seemed to promise to make out with him, too.  He said "we'd get it on".  He also seems to think Tim Tebow is a Christian robot -- he referred to his "throwing mechanisms".  And he'd like Congress to only work 9 weeks a year, so they'd have to get other jobs on the side.  What?  Would we pay them less?  And he thinks the Monroe Doctrine was enacted in the 1960s to keep the Soviets out of Cuba.

Romney is still a weasel -- he said his pledge of "full equality" for gays didn't include things like the right to get married.  But he's still less insane than the rest of them, except maybe Huntsman, who's still essentially an unknown.

Santorum's an irrelevant dick, and Paul has no chance.  The End.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on January 05, 2012, 02:20:07 PM
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/santorum-no-one-has-ever-died-because-they-didnt-have-health-care/politics/2011/12/06/31304

how these people get elected to public office is beyond me. i'm convinced it all comes down to lobbyists.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on January 05, 2012, 03:11:18 PM
It's like arguing that a gun doesn't injure, the bullet does (except when you use the gun as a club).

That sort of extremely fine splitting of hairs is normally context driven - it's appropriate in technical discussions, but you would also see register shifting to the technical jargon for the field ("the data packet was corrupted in transit by the switch" versus "the user's data garbaged"). Politicians, Chomsky aside, seem to pretend that they have no jargon.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 05, 2012, 03:35:20 PM
Santorum is an utter douchebag, a complete and total no-principles tool, one of the worst jackass politicians in decades.  There'd be no reason to take him seriously as a human being if it weren't for the unfortunate fact that many people take him seriously.

He regularly spews the most impoverished kind of frothy nonsense.  I'm not sure he's capable of doing otherwise.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on January 05, 2012, 03:39:18 PM
Speaking of frothy, he's a total Santorum (http://spreadingsantorum.com/)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 05, 2012, 03:49:16 PM
Yeah, he really earned that one.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 21, 2012, 08:51:50 PM
"She turned me into a Newt (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-gingrich-wins-south-carolina-primary-20120121,0,7667684.story)!"
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 21, 2012, 09:03:10 PM
Considering the primaries have been plagued by batches of vanishing votes, it should perhaps not be a surprise that the most corrupt, cynical, and connected candidate walked off with this one.  We should probably be disgusted at the incompetence that let Santorum steal Iowa.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 21, 2012, 09:22:35 PM
I dunno; there's not much I enjoy more than watching Republicans destroy each other.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 21, 2012, 09:29:08 PM
Well, it's a long way to November.  :lol:

Newt's second wife is a fighter.  If he hadn't been such an intern-suction jackass he could have divorced her like he did the first one, with a clause in the settlement keeping her from bad-mouthing him.  Now he's gone and called her a liar, and she's pissed, which might just come back to haunt him.

God knows he deserves it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: whidB on January 23, 2012, 12:36:50 PM
I dunno; there's not much I enjoy more than watching Republicans destroy each other.

Yeah buh-but tha VOTERS...tha TWO PARTY SYSTEM. THA LOYAL OPPOSITION.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 25, 2012, 09:52:06 PM
I still can't quite believe that Newt Gingrich is getting away with his defense of his his goat-sucking, wife-molesting, orphan-raping personal life when that defense consists of saying that the details are too gruesome for the media to bring to light.

The things I've repeatedly done are SO SHAMEFUL that how dare you mention them on TV?  You are the real criminals for even discussing my crimes!

This guy makes Nixon look like Carter.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on January 25, 2012, 10:14:05 PM
I have been trying to figure out how to word this into an effective slogan, but every time the Newt opens his mouth he sounds like he is trying to gas-light the entirety of the US. He is an abusive spouse/boyfriend/partner whatever ...

The strategies he utilizes ... making himself the victim ... getting angry at people for getting angry at something he did ... turning things around "you made me work so hard and I love this country so much I couldn't say no so I had to sleep with this congressional page because I couldn't take the time off of work to go home and boink my wife ... repeating obvious untruths so frequently that the listener begins to be convinced of Newt's reality ...

all of these things are classic gas-lighting techniques. The question is how to make everyone see it?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on January 25, 2012, 10:33:39 PM
Get one of the photoshoppers to alter http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=222178348&sellerid=31552655 to have him in place of Boyer and his first or second wife in the place of Langsbury?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on January 26, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
If you can figure out a way to make people see reality through media/political fog and mirrors, I will back you as mostest supremiest being in the upcoming election.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 27, 2012, 01:38:51 PM
This cracks me the hell up. (http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/)

It's so fucking blatant. He'd say the same thing in Houston: "Vote for me and I'll put you back to work."
Fucking lying little creep. Not even Romney does that kind of pandering.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on January 27, 2012, 02:12:26 PM
That's a dream, not a plan. And if he even tried, he'd likely gut the rest of the agency trying to make that one thing work.

I could make a lot more comments, but I don't want to actually do the research to verify them just to make him look bad. I've got to go cut the grass with scissors and it'd be more productive.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 27, 2012, 03:16:37 PM
Newt's views on the space program are some of the most retarded and crazy things he's ever actually told to anyone else.  And he's filled books with I'm So Smart idiocy, god knows, but still.  He's said more than once that we could fund the program with zero-G sex tourism.  He is, in his creepy way, obsessed with zero-G sex.

I say we put him in orbit and let him have at it.  The End.

Moon colony.  This guy probably couldn't plan a decent parking garage.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on January 27, 2012, 03:25:51 PM
This makes me feel all Gingrichy.   :uncertain:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on January 27, 2012, 05:06:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/WF0a4.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 27, 2012, 05:15:00 PM
:galm:

I'm trying to figure that one out. Isn't that a Space:1999 uniform on Newt there? But that's not one on Joan. Is it? Huh.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on January 27, 2012, 05:19:04 PM
she guest starred in an episode as, "kara".

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_V5SReiHuxbs/TFssphX4i7I/AAAAAAAADVA/mcHQAmMFGss/s320/space+1999+4.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 27, 2012, 05:21:09 PM
She looks incredibly sarcastic. 

Newt looks like an utter weed.  But what else is new?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on January 27, 2012, 05:41:04 PM
it was the first pic i found that was kind of in the same position as martin's. i really didn't want to search too long.

if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on January 27, 2012, 10:03:08 PM
Just don't go ruining U.F.O. and putting a purple wig on her.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 12:07:27 AM
Speaking of Gingrich being far less intelligent than he thinks, in Florida he told people this past week that by 2020 (the end of his second term, he said) he'd have a lunar colony with 13,000 inhabitants who might form the 51st US state.

Keep in mind, it would be easier to build a town of 13,000 permanent inhabitants on the ocean floor or in the middle of Antarctica or on top of Kilimanjaro.  Just consider that NASA's peak rate of shuttle orbiter launches was in 1985, with nine launches.  An average shuttle crew was, what, five people?  So maybe fifty people into orbit in a year is our record?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on January 29, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Why only one state? I thought the 'pubs were all about the states' rights. Is there something about this particular planned state we need to know?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 09:59:12 AM
Jon Stewart said it's because the Earth is sick, so Newt's planning on leaving it for another planet.

This mean's Newt's already fucking the moon when we're not looking.


:sick:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 29, 2012, 10:13:52 AM
This all reminds me, with some satisfaction, of the religious fanatic political leader in Anathem who decides he's going to be the one to make first contact with the aliens.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 10:29:17 AM
Haven't seen that one, so I'm imagining Mars Attacks! disintegration instead.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 29, 2012, 12:03:04 PM
Suffice it to say he insisted upon breathing the divine atmosphere of the alien ship, which proved fatal in his case.

The aliens then carried out a partial dissection before having a political dispute about it, and in a compromise move the body was tossed out the airlock without a pressure suit. Much to the consternation of the humans in the shuttle.

IIRC the description of this person in the book was such that you might think Stephenson had Newt in mind when he wrote the passage. Ha.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 01:28:37 PM
The whole thing over Newt's use of How You Like Me Now? as a campaign song is pretty funny.  Gotta agree that he must not have actually listened to the lyrics.

Now there was a time
When you loved me so
I could have been wrong
But now you needed to know
See, I've been a bad, bad, bad, bad man
And I'm in deep, Yes I am
I found a brand new love for this man
And I can't wait till you see
I can't wait

So how you like me now
How you like me now
How you like me now
How you like me now

Remember the time
When I eat you up
You know that I wasn't lyin'
that you can't give up
So if I was to cheat
on you baby would you see right through me
If I sing a sad, sad, sad, sad song
would you give it to me

How you like me now
How you like me now
How you like me now
How you like me now


/irony + stupidity
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on January 29, 2012, 01:29:44 PM
I need to reread Anathem.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 01:36:11 PM
I should probably give Stephenson another try.  It's certainly been long enough, and he's probably gotten to be an even better writer as time's gone on.  I rarely buy books that are popular (not reactionary cool; I just try not to compete with customers), but I might even have a copy somewhere already.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on January 29, 2012, 02:08:50 PM
Gotta agree that he must not have actually listened to the lyrics.

That seems to be a recurring theme among political candidates.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 02:37:03 PM
You'd think after Reagan's spectacular stupidity with Born in the USA, and the widespread media coverage of said stupidity, would at least have warned the GOP a bit.

Or at least I'd think so.  And I'm pretty cynical.  But, again, this just underscores how Newt may be glib and may be able to sound smart, but he ain't smart.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 09, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
i can't wait until he's just gone. i accept the fact that there are people who believe what he says and support him, but i don't have see them and read about them too often. he's just one fucking bag of crap that's full of wtf.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/02/09/421882/santorum-obama-has-put-america-on-the-path-of-executing-religious-people-by-decapitation/?mobile=nc
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 09, 2012, 02:53:38 PM
Santorum is Bachmann-level crazy.  I mean, he could benefit from institutionalization.  He's not just one of those politicians (usually on the Right, these days) who says crazy bullshit to whip up some of our dumber voters.  He's one of the ones who can't distinguish between bullshit and reality.

He's also frankly not that bright.  He's the kind of person who makes you think that the Bar Association's tests are testing for the wrong things.

Also, I have to say, if he's not secretly gay (and probably lying to himself about it), then mice are secretly elephants.  I'm not surprised by his self-loathing turned outward, but he could be the poster boy for why religious nutbags need to stop demonizing homosexuality.


Among other dickhead moves:

- He argued that illegal steroids should be allowed in pro wrestling because it's entertainment, not a sport.

- He's in favor of invading evil, evil Iran but also in favor of letting US corporations do business there.  Go figure!

- He's anti-science, especially evolution, but can't keep straight WTF his message on this is supposed to be.  He's claimed that fake science is real science, and also that it's not, and so on.  He's a global warming denier who wants to ramp up coal production and drill, drill, drill.

- He's the worst kind of self-described fiscal conservative, the kind who loves pork for his friends but wants the poor to die quietly somewhere and the middle class to exist only to be milked by the rich.  While serving in congress, he basically acted as a lobbyist for Accuweather.  His energy policies have been described as fraud aimed at funneling billions to corporations that scratch his back.  He should not be allowed anywhere near tax money.

- He's in favor of torturing people and says that McCain doesn't understand the issue. 

- He says liberals caused priests to sexually abuse children.  I've never heard his chain of logic on this, but probably it's not important.

- He was involved with the K Street Project, which -- if you can even wrap your head around this -- was a plan for the GOP to corrupt corporate lobbies by forcing them to give high-paying sinecures to members of the GOP.  Regular bribes, not enough!  I'm sure this was in no way Santorum's idea, but it gives you an idea of his integrity.

- He totally wants to enforce his religious views on everybody.  He's made that clear on many occasions.  There's no question about it.  He hates the libertarians because they like letting people do whatever they want so long as they're not hurting anybody else.  He specifically believes it's the job of the federal government to decide what's best for you and then enforce it.

- He's said the feds should be able to outlaw the sale of contraceptives.  And he's said he'd like to outlaw all kinds of sexual activity that don't promote reproduction within a Christian marriage. 

Hate him yet?

Romney's a schmuck, but compared to the others . . . .
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on February 20, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
Someone at the Washington Post has a sense of humor. Check out the photo/headline combination:

Republican presidential candidate Gingrich says
$2 gallon gas is possible, just elect him


(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/CampaignFundraisingJPEG-08fc0.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on February 20, 2012, 08:18:54 PM
"He's the kind of person who makes you think that the Bar Association's tests are testing for the wrong things."

I've been thinking that for a while now, but not because of that assclown. Different assclown.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 20, 2012, 08:48:09 PM
Lotta assclowns out there.  Lotta.  Too many for even this nation's many clown cars.

Oddly enough, the lure of money, power, prestige, and easy sex that Hollywood tells us a law degree provides . . . attracts a lot of douches.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 21, 2012, 12:00:18 PM
unfortunately all the stations will be on the moon base.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 23, 2012, 04:42:38 PM
So Santorum is 'in trouble' because he said he voted for No Child Left Behind because the party wanted him to, even though it "violated his principles".  And he's cast himself as an uncompromising conservative, and so allegedly this makes him look bad.

Whatever.  He's a moronic psycho douche in the first place, and the other GOP candidates just don't have the guts to point it out.  But what annoys me about this story is that I've seen three versions of it, and not one of them has reported in what way NCLB violated his principles.  The cost?  The idea of educating children? 

It really doesn't matter, but still.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on February 23, 2012, 07:05:28 PM
I watched a little of the debate last night. Why? I dunno. I guess maybe because it was the last one. After watching a few minutes of it, I felt like I needed to slap myself, or maybe throw some water in my face. It was like I was falling into some kind of trance. It was sort of like suspension of disbelief - I had to kind of open my mind to follow the conversation, but before too long, I found myself way too deep in the rabbit hole. I started thinking of Ron Paul as the sane one, and that's just scary.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 23, 2012, 07:39:52 PM
Everything Romney says is a lie.  He's not a terribly smart man, but he's not stupid, just callow and self-serving and a politician at heart.  If any of them are going to get elected, he's going to do the least damage, because he's not terribly interested in doing much as President.  He just wants the job.  My guess is pro-corporation and otherwise pretty moderate, as modern Republicans go.

Gingrich is a lunatic douchebag.  What makes him dangerous is that he thinks he's a genius and is in love with a lot of deeply stupid ideas.  He's capable of lying freely but not smart enough to know when to pretend he doesn't believe crazy things.  He thinks that everything he says will sound good to most people.

Santorum is a flat-out crazy person.  Pathological.  He's clearly repressing horrible self-doubts, and he seeks to repress other people because he's externalizing that.  To him, conservatism is really all about hairshirts, abstinence, dutiful procreation, and letting rich white men tell everyone else what to do.  Absolute patriarchal obeisance from someone who is obviously terrified of being found out and thrown out of grace.  If elected, he could do any crazy thing.  He's crazy.  And he utterly believes that faith is more important than good works and the means justify the ends.  He is completely the kind of guy who'd be happy running an Inquisition.

Paul is a guy who's good at heart, for a politician, but completely unrealistic.  I don't think he could get elected, even though Obama is way too nice to his opponents, but if he did get elected, I don't think he could get Congress to cooperate with him.  You could do worse for a Republican senator, but he's in no way a good candidate for the Presidency.

They all sound crazy in the debates because at least two of them are crazy, and one's out of touch with reality, and the other one doesn't care what reality is.  And politics is like porn:  They go out of their way to appease fetishists because the mainstream audience isn't very bothered by it and the fetishists wouldn't have it any other way.  The nonsense crap in the debates is the transparent 6" spike pumps and faceshot of politics.  That's all.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on February 23, 2012, 07:42:10 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and call Rule 34 on that last paragraph of yours, mkay?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 23, 2012, 08:01:44 PM
I've mentioned this before, but: 

Many years ago, now, a university SF club I belonged to had a slashfic contest.  Everyone had 24 hours to find the most bizarre slashfic they could, print out a page, and bring it back in, and the winner got some or other peculiar SF film on DVD.  It wasn't decided until the day of judgment, but the criterion wound up being Why Would Anyone Actually Write The Whole Story?  Because it's easy to think of a funny topic for slashfic, but . . . why would anyone actually write the whole story.

Yeah.  Anyway.  A number of newbs brought in stuff like bi Scooby-Do slash . . . pfff . . . and I thought surely I'd won when I presented McLoughlin Group slashfic that the internet coughed up.  ("Eleanor, I think you're swell-anor!" etc, etc, ad omniam nauseam.)  But someone else brought in Family Circus slash, which was like Rules 34 through 38 kinds of horrendous.

So I have zero doubt that there were at least a hundred people writing GOP candidate slashfic while watching the debate.  No doubt at all.  And no way am I going to look for it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 24, 2012, 01:12:13 PM
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/santorum-democratic-party-an-orgy-of-sex-and-homosexuality-preying-on-lust/politics/2012/02/21/35088

un-fucking-believable

he never judges anyone's personal faith.  :nuts:

warning, site has pics of guys kissing guys on it. NTTATWWT
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on February 24, 2012, 02:06:20 PM
those comments are great
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 24, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzv4d9J18f1r0ikifo1_500.jpg)

Jealous much?

That guy is so far in the closet that he's practically in the guest room.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 25, 2012, 03:34:34 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399839_10150580075366275_177486166274_9462022_1146071786_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on February 25, 2012, 08:59:12 PM
 :rollin:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on February 26, 2012, 10:50:33 AM
Don't you mean "more than OPENLY gay people think about sex"?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on February 26, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
 :lol:

point taken!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on February 27, 2012, 08:09:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3BYcHmBhE
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 27, 2012, 08:26:18 PM
He makes more sense every day.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on February 27, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
I think he should get BLR's permission to use that as an actual campaign ad.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on February 27, 2012, 08:48:37 PM
I think he should.  It's less harmful than the things he really says.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on February 27, 2012, 08:55:32 PM
I think he should.  It's less harmful than the things he really says.

Makes better logical sense, too.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 28, 2012, 03:20:52 PM
it's getting ri-goddamn-diculous.

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2012/02/rick-santorum-defends-comments-blasting-jfk-over-religion-place-politics/JmimsHOpSs3lyrx39EkwvJ/index.html

how does someone with little to no concept of reality get elected in the first place?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 28, 2012, 03:35:53 PM
He got a lot more support (and guidance) from the party when he was running for smaller potatoes.  Now he's had some success, and he thinks it's because he's a genius / God wants him to win, and the party is not being as supportive, so he's on his own.

Arlen Specter supported Santorum's earlier candidacies but now says, geez, I didn't realize he was such a lunatic.  Arlen 'Magic Bullet' Specter says you're crazy.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 28, 2012, 05:11:10 PM
Pennsyltucky. Worse than the rest of Pennsylvania and Kentucky squared.

They do crank out good quarterbacks, though
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 28, 2012, 05:20:21 PM
i thought west virginny was pennsyltucky.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on February 29, 2012, 02:39:36 PM
how does someone with little to no concept of reality get elected in the first place?

By people with little to no concept of reality.  :P
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 02, 2012, 11:54:19 AM
OK now this is currently cracking me the hell up. (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-koch-cato-institute-20120301,0,6988226.story)

Choice quote: The Koch brothers are trying “to transform Cato from an independent, nonpartisan research organization into a political entity” with a “partisan agenda.”

IF THEY SUCCEED HOW THE FUCK WILL ANYONE NOTICE

:galm: :rollin: :galm:

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 02, 2012, 12:04:49 PM
Yeah, LOLWUT.  Cato was always a right-wing policy rationalization thinktank, not any kind of non-partisan anything.

One way to tell if you're really about research or propaganda is whether you start with the conclusion and work backwards.  That's considered not such a good sign.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 02, 2012, 12:12:14 PM
It was the parking thing that really revealed that for me. I used to give Cato the benefit of the doubt: I mean, I thought they were wrong pretty much all the time but they were at least trying. But the spectacle of seeing the Cato guy argue that government should force business property developers to provide free parking was the most preciously ironic thing I've seen pretty much ever.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 02, 2012, 12:14:10 PM
I hadn't heard that one.  But considering they claim to be a libertarian think tank, that's a pretty odd position.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 02, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
Google Shoup (UCLA) vs. O'Toole (Cato). O'Toole took exception to Professor Shoup's book, "The High Cost of Free Parking," in which Shoup (that horrifying liberal socialist academic Che-t-shirt wearer no doubt) argues that the market should set parking costs - now they are artificially low because of government interference (i.e. forcing developers to provide free parking). O'Toole is enraged by this because it's crypto-public-transportation-or-heaven-forbid-walking-or-biking enabling and everyone knows the next step down from making people walk is Auschwitz. It was really quite delicious. The contortions O'Toole went through to try to make his point have any logic at all were ... well, imagine a tarantula on a Twister board, 20 moves in.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 02, 2012, 12:34:09 PM
Arguing against the free market because of fear it will lead to bicycling.

Oy.  I see how they got there, but . . . oy.  Sad.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on March 15, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/8/12/c873f4b8-4e5c-40f1-96e6-b6ca2601331a.jpg) (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03/15/444999/pennsylvania-governor-supports-ultrasound-bill/)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on March 16, 2012, 11:07:28 AM
another one .  . .

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/14/rush-the-man-child-blames-it-on-the-black-guy-and-offers-proof-of-his-love-of-women/

oh, by the way, the above photo is a clakable link to more idiocy.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 16, 2012, 01:24:35 PM
There's this vast left-wing conspiracy to oppose the GOP.  Think about it!  The Democrats use active planning to try to defeat the GOP.  They're dastardly that way.




The really sad part is that the Dems barely have any ochestration to do this kind of thing at all.  They totally suck at it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on March 16, 2012, 04:04:07 PM
No, the Dems just say they are to cover their tracks.

It's all a conspiracy.

Its Reel.

The TRUTH is hier!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on April 15, 2012, 11:53:04 AM
Gingrich claims Fox News is a biased fake news company (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/12/gingrich_unloads_on_fox_news_in_private_meeting___113818.html).  Mind you, he worked at Fox News until last year.  He also specifically outed Murdoch as a puppeteer controlling Fox content.  DO TELL.

The funny thing about this is that Gingrich is attacking Fox News because he's sure they decided to make Romney the candidate.  Otherwise Romney couldn't be beating him, you see.  And they picked Romney because they're jealous of Gingrich.  In no way is this a whiny egotistical fantasy.


Quote
“In our experience, Callista and I both believe CNN is less biased than FOX this year. We are more likely to get neutral coverage out of CNN than we are of FOX, and we’re more likely to get distortion out of FOX. That’s just a fact.”

Pretty harsh, considering how crappy CNN is nowadays.


Quote
"I got that reaction from [George] Will a few years back about writing a book because I’m supposed to be a politician. He’s supposed to be the writer. Well, I’ve now written 24 books, and 13 of them are New York Times bestsellers. I mean, there’s a morning when George ought to just get over it.”

Yeah, George Will!  Don't hate the playa, hate the game!  You're just mad because you're not as cool as Newt Gingrich!  Although, actually, that's both sadly true and something worth being deeply and existentially angry about.


Quote
Gingrich said that despite serving two decades in Congress, he was the “least establishment candidate since Ronald Reagan” -- another reason why he said he had not endeared himself to conservative media figures.

Yes, Newt Gingrich, the ultimate outsider.  And shortly thereafter he brags about his political career of 53 years.


Quote
“They know I don’t care about their opinions,” he said. “I don’t go to their cocktail parties. I don’t go to their Christmas parties."

But surely you've been invited to all their parties and reindeer games!  Surely!  They wish you would come to their parties!

Jackass.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on April 16, 2012, 06:04:04 PM
:galm:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on May 24, 2012, 04:44:48 AM
The local subsidiary of The Washington Post Company* is experimenting with outsourcing commercial printing jobs to INDIA to save a few dollars.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on May 24, 2012, 07:39:32 AM
If they would just outsource, first, their executives, and, then, their readership, they'd really save a lot of money.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on May 25, 2012, 02:42:12 AM
At some point in the recent past, they canned the publisher. No replacement. So that's sort of a good start.

Also, there doesn't seem to be an HR department anymore. Or, at least there is one person handling HR related business, but I don't think has HR experience.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2012, 02:58:55 PM
I must admit, the MI Senate getting its ass handed to it over the terrible word "vagina" is pretty funny, albeit pretty sad.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on June 29, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fecf970/turbine/la-na-tt-john-roberts-20120628-001/600)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on June 29, 2012, 11:02:21 AM
Did you see any of the footage from the courthouse steps? That's a pretty accurate portrayal there. Those could be actual quotes.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on June 29, 2012, 12:47:32 PM
I just read where Obama and Axelrod blackmailed Roberts because they had proof he was gay.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on June 29, 2012, 12:53:20 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on June 29, 2012, 12:54:09 PM
I forgot the part where a Secret Service agent got it on tape and was going to release it later today.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on July 19, 2012, 04:18:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/03nZU.jpg)

jim's (the artist) a regular contributor at reddit and is a pretty nice guy. he's the guy who does those sarcastic bunny comics.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 19, 2012, 08:08:25 PM
The theory I heard today is that he hasn't tithed properly to his church, and they'll be seriously pissed if they find out.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on July 20, 2012, 12:31:28 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on July 20, 2012, 12:51:43 PM
I've heard that, or maybe that he was one of the people who benefitted from the amnesty for bringing back offshored money, or maybe one year he paid $0 in taxes.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on July 27, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
it's truly frightening.

http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/07/27/4142802/mitt-romney-still-fighting-the.html
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 27, 2012, 03:02:24 PM
He's a one-term governor, right?  His foreign relations experience mostly consists of moving jobs overseas. 

He's mostly just a grinning doofus.  He's smarter than Shrub [faint praise] but doesn't seem to have advisors or puppetmasters.  Yet.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 27, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
... puppetmasters.  Yet.

Um. Sheldon Adelson, Grover Norquist and the Koch brothers own this guy's ass already. Count on it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on July 27, 2012, 05:49:44 PM
not to mention cheney peeping in his ear . . .
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 27, 2012, 07:28:44 PM
Fair enough.  But they haven't done a whole lot in terms of Romney The Candidate.  He's running on a platform of Hey, I'm The Republican Candidate Over Here.  His biggest policy declaration has been distinguished silver streaks in his hair.

People like Bobby Jindal might have some substance, or might not, but when they're shilling for not-even-much-bullshit candidates like this, it drags them down to also-ran muppet-chorus status.  I'm not sure it'll be possible for them to be taken seriously down the road.

We need an Occupy Republican Party movement.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 28, 2012, 12:18:12 AM
Shoot, man, Bobby Jindal's performed an exorcism. This implies he's interacted with other humans before. Jury's still out on Mitt for that one
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 28, 2012, 06:58:19 AM
OMG I had not heard about the exorcism.

Wow, he does not seem the type.  Maybe he lost?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on July 28, 2012, 12:09:33 PM
he says he won and also cured her cancer.

how does that work with romney being from kolob?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 28, 2012, 05:06:23 PM
Quote
he says he won and also cured her cancer.

Wat.


I will have to look into this.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on July 29, 2012, 03:19:20 PM
I read this article (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/why-cant-we-end-poverty-in-america.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&hp), "Poverty in America: Why Can’t We End It?" this morning and was just dumbfounded.

It's depressing to realize I am, through no fault of my own, officially living below the poverty line.  :(

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 29, 2012, 04:59:50 PM
Yah.  I'm one of those who are at about twice the poverty line.  I can't imagine supporting even one kid on my income.  Dude talks about the stagnation of wages since about 1970, but he doesn't even mention inflation -- in constant dollars, most wages have actually fallen.

It's worth repeating that the GOP has pared welfare back over and over again since Reagan took office, and it's consistently made things worse for over 95% of US citizens.  Go figure.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on July 30, 2012, 06:34:56 AM
I am in a severely shitty mood since reading that article, so now I'm mocking idiots in a thread about Chick-Fil-A on FB (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=409912009067163&set=a.380420628682968.82290.114364638621903&type=1&ref=nf).

I know, I know, it's pointless, but I can't help myself. It's better than earlier today, when I was crying and puking.  :(
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 30, 2012, 07:36:37 AM
:thumbsup: for the mockery and :thumbsdn: for the pukery.

What I don't get lately is how much casual anti-China hate I've been hearing.  I know, China is scary and our new Cold War enemy, whatever.  But I hadn't even seen much fearmongering about it.  And suddenly I keep seeing and hearing people casually saying "Fuck China" or "Just so long as China loses" and so on.

In the first place, the whole point of the Olympics is not to thumb your nose at countries that don't get as many gold medals.  Or even to fight a proxy war by means of athletes.

But in the second place, WTF?  A customer was telling me yesterday that the customer service at a restaurant in town was complete crap.  I mentioned the Chinese student who'd gotten ripped off by some deli nearby.  She said, "Oh, well, I hate China, but that still isn't right."

Did China rape your husband, or something?  You're still buying cell phones and iStuff from China.  What are you so mad about?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on July 30, 2012, 10:17:05 AM
What's hilarious is that most, if not all, of those people shop at Wal Mart - or any Mart - and ALLLLLLLLLLLLL their shit was made in China.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on July 30, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
I'm just not nationalistic enough, I guess. I can follow the macroeconomics if somebody talks slowly, but lose my capacity to care before step 2.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 30, 2012, 03:50:36 PM
I couldn't even hate the Soviet athletes during the worst years.  Yeah, I rooted for the US, but, what, the Soviet hockey team was hoping we all died of radiation poisoning?  Maybe a third of them.

I don't understand how this level of atavistic endogamy exists side by side with passing for functional intelligence.  It's just like people who still hate anyone who might be Vietnamese because of the war we had over there.  At that level of guilt by association, there isn't anyone you shouldn't hate.  That would even make sense, for fuck's sake.

It's enough to make me want to go to the UN and say "People of the world!  My people are no better than yours, because people are largely all the same.  Some of my people hate you for no particularly good reason.  The consolation is that you are justified in not taking this hate seriously.  The people hating you this way are not to be taken seriously."
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on July 30, 2012, 04:16:28 PM
Meanwhile . . .

[ahem]

FREE SPEECH MEANS YOU GET TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY. 
IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYONE ELSE HAS TO LISTEN. 
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOUR OPINION ISN'T STUPID OR OFFENSIVE. 
IT DOESN'T MEAN OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T CRITICIZE WHAT YOU SAID. 
IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T THINK LESS OF YOU FOR SAYING IT. 
IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T BOYCOTT YOUR BUSINESS BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAY.

IF THAT MAKES YOU THINK FREEDOM OF SPEECH ISN'T ANY GOOD, YOU'RE AN IDIOT.  AND I'M FREE TO SAY THAT.

[the end]
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hisey on August 14, 2012, 10:19:36 PM
Sure they're going to tell us their tax plan after the election..
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on August 14, 2012, 10:59:13 PM
Wait. Doesn't Congress, specifically the House, get to start the budget?

Nevermind me; I'm just trying to make sense of the nonsensical.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hisey on August 15, 2012, 06:58:19 PM
I read on Facebook that some republican was mad because the liberals were mad because Romney hasn't shown his tax statements, but he was mad because Obama hasn't produced his birth certificate. Guys this was like, MONDAY.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on August 16, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
i try to keep current but i seem to have missed when obama stated he wanted to ban guns.

http://www.newser.com/story/152210/megadeth-singer-obama-staged-mass-shootings.html
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 16, 2012, 04:05:06 PM
Here's what's been OMFGing me lately.

A couple of years ago, the crazy anti-gay marriage rhetoric memes were out of the Southwest (hello, former state of Arizona), and I kept hearing "What's next?  Letting people marry turtles?"

And I thought, well, obviously that's not comparable.  Hard to argue a turtle is a consenting adult, etc.  But some of the Republican repetitions of this meme sound almost wistful, and I thought, well, maybe this is a real problem.  Maybe there are a lot of people in the southwestern US who are hungering after turtle sex.  If so, then maybe we do need to keep that illegal.  For the sake of the turtles.

But somehow, over the last month or so, the crazy anti-gay marriage meme I keep hearing and seeing on the internets is "What's next?  Letting people marry a giraffe?"

And . . . you know?  Honestly, I say, OK -- let's say that an adult giraffe is capable of consent (by not kicking your sternum out through your ass) and make this legal.  Because how much of a problem can it be?

First, you have to be capable of getting a giraffe.  You can't just marry an animal at a zoo.  It has to live with you.

Second, you have to be capable of supporting the giraffe in the manner to which it is accustomed.  So we're talking the 1% here.  And, let's face it, they already can pretty much do whatever they want.

I'm not even going to get into nuptial mechanics, here.  If you can survive and thrive while married to a giraffe, more power to you.  Just let MTV make a show about it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on August 16, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
Is that in reply to Mustaine's comments? Because, valid.

 :P
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on August 16, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
i know where to get a giraffe. we just rented/hired one for an event last week.

 :P
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 17, 2012, 04:10:16 PM
You can't marry a rental.

I've been hearing and seeing the Giraffe Marriage meme all over, lately.  I have no idea where it started.  I've seen it at Frak and on Fbook, for starters, and a customer brought it up a few days ago.  Maybe a week ago.  It blurs together.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on August 17, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
Must need some equipment for consummation of that marriage.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hisey on August 17, 2012, 09:40:59 PM
You can't marry a rental.

That made me really laugh. Stunt spouse. lol
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on September 03, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
My Republican mother was dissing the attempts to make the really rich GOP candidates seem more human by showing how women just love being Suzie Homemaker.

She wasn't aware of Jill Stein running for the Green Party - hopefully she's better than McKinney was (not that such a trick is difficult).
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 04, 2012, 02:17:50 PM
Quote from: Dad's friend
Too funny that you are required to show a photo ID 3 times in order to get into the Democratic National Convention. Are they trying to suppress minority attendance? Where is the ACLU on this one?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on September 04, 2012, 02:24:48 PM
*facepalm*

I can't with this election. No mas, no mas, no mas. I just want it to be over with. I will tune in for Mittens' concession speech, though.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 04, 2012, 03:08:06 PM
So does he think minorities don't have photo IDs, or that they can only show them twice per day?

The conventions are about fund-raising, anyway, not voting.

My personal feeling about the voter ID thing:  If the GOP wants you to show ID when you go to vote, fine -- but be honest about it.  If you're going to do that, your photo ID is your voter registration.  Valid driver's license means registered to vote.  I know the GOP hates this idea, but you can't have it both ways.

Also, regulate voting more carefully and actually prosecute all the vote tampering that goes on.  Of course, it's mostly GOP tampering, so that's the last thing they want.  But be honest about it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 04, 2012, 03:13:39 PM
Honest?

I'm not sure they understand that word.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qqHbgA_Wy2s/TEUWx4PzXBI/AAAAAAAAA90/pLJ_e2EapHI/s1600/0.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 04, 2012, 03:15:51 PM
:lol:

I know.  But I like to use it to suggest rhetorically that they are less than manly.  Because that seems to bother them.  Even many of the GOP women.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 04, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
I'm to the point where I might hibernate online until mid November myself.  I could always channel some more productivity into work, especially since we're short staffed beginning Oct 1.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 04, 2012, 11:50:26 PM
this has to be satire. i refuse to believe that anyone thinks electing what they believe is the wrong person will lead to a thousand years (that's pretty specific) of darkness. it seems they also believe obama is not only a failure and socialist, but also evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ud3pK5Wa90

are those white robes and hoods in the background?

i know they're karategi or judogi . . .  :P
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 05, 2012, 07:42:03 AM
You know who else believed in thousand-year reichs?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on September 05, 2012, 03:23:35 PM
As a side note, one of the attorney's I work for wanted me to go to Charlotte today or tomorrow to copy a file for him.  Thank Dog I talked him out of it.  They said they forgot about the convention.  I can go Monday.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 05, 2012, 04:44:13 PM
Do they have Republicans in Australia? (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-richest-woman-pay-20120905,0,6971046.story) I guess they do now.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 05, 2012, 05:05:27 PM
And why haven't they been taken out yet?  Certainly they must have addresses and must not have perfect security?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 05, 2012, 05:43:01 PM
(http://www.adelekirby.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/DoubleFacePalm.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 05, 2012, 07:42:31 PM
People who have a lot and don't want to share are always, always, always either assholing themselves up or rationalizing reasons why they deserve everything they have.  Convincing themselves that they're purely self-made, and that anyone who just works hard like they did could have the same, that's one good bullshit way to make your millionaire's guilt subside.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 08, 2012, 09:40:51 PM
i can't believe this. i'm convinced romney is slightly retarded. how can he be so disconnected from normal people?

not only did he think driving 12 hours with his dog on the roof rack was fine, he doesn't think the troops are people, they're just, "the military".

he giggles at his own gaffes. he thinks this shit is funny.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/romney-defends-not-mentioning-war-troops-in-convention

even fox gives him a chance to save some face on not mentioning them and he still stands by his stance that they're not on his "laundry list".
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 08, 2012, 09:58:44 PM
He's a f'ing rich guy. As William Gibson said in Count Zero, one becomes more convinced that the extremely wealthy are no longer human.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on September 09, 2012, 12:33:39 AM
He's a sociopath. Unfortunately, he's one with a lot of disposable income.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on September 09, 2012, 07:23:08 AM
I have become convinced the only reason they picked Ryan as his running mate is to make Romney look like less of a sociopath.  Ryan is off the charts with that shit.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 09, 2012, 07:56:29 AM
Dude, the military is the help -- and they're the awkward help that has one of the jobs you can't believe you can pay anyone so little to do.  Best not to dwell on it.

Upstairs, downstairs.

Romney's campaign management has me more and more convinced that the GOP bigwigs have decided they can just steal most elections, so why bother trying so hard?  Let's see, they've coopted electronic voting machines, voter rolls and registration, tallies, and the courts.  Maybe they're right. 

I imagine the Karl Roves aren't averse to testing how many shaky elections they can get away with.  If it works, great, and they frankly prefer that to populism; it's more fun to beat the system into submission.  If it doesn't work, it's not like they're personally going to get into trouble.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 09, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
TIL that Romney likes to say he's "as conservative as the Constitution".

My.  God. 

The level of stupid is hard to comprehend.  Not to mention that apparently his campaign people are good with it and his fanbase eats that up.

Seriously, for the good of the country and future history books, we have GOT to get better Republicans.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 09, 2012, 05:46:05 PM
No we don't. I'd be happy to see the GOP go away forever for what they've done since 1964. Their traditional sensible conservative role is currently filled by the donkeys. Those non-psychos currently in the GOP need to get out, and take their money with them.

We need better Greens, is what we need. A Green political machine.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on September 09, 2012, 06:00:55 PM
Go Green or Get Reamed?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 09, 2012, 06:11:31 PM
:hmm:

Yeaaahh?

It's certainly catchier than my first choice, "Go Green or your great-grandchildren die in poverty with the rest of the refugees."

And heaven knows no one ever got any votes by going negative.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 09, 2012, 08:18:23 PM
Great-grandchildren is too far away.  How about "Or your grandchildren will curse you while making jeans for the Chinese."
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 11, 2012, 01:17:57 PM
Our evil-idiot governor wants to revoke BC/BS's tax-exempt status but also deregulate them.  In theory, they'd pay about $100 million a year in taxes (sure, corporations always pay the rosy-projection tax rates) and a little over another $100 million a year into a new non-profit that would use (some of) the money to fight obesity, etc.

Letting the GOP orchestrate such a thing is like putting pedophiles in charge of a nursery school.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 11, 2012, 01:22:20 PM
BC/BS

?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 11, 2012, 01:24:52 PM
Blue Cross/Blue Shield

Bizarre Confessions/Bull Shit
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 11, 2012, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: Dad's friend
Too funny that you are required to show a photo ID 3 times in order to get into the Democratic National Convention. Are they trying to suppress minority attendance? Where is the ACLU on this one?

This same guy posted a cartoon about the things that the Democrats were avoiding discussing at the DNC. One of them was the US's credit rating.   :whatever:

In another update, my mom was commenting on Villaraigosa's disgraceful multiple-vote-taking, and the guy wondered if "it woke any of them up."  What, am I supposed to vote Republican now?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hisey on September 11, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
I have a cousin who posted a birther article on Facebook. He believed all of it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 12, 2012, 01:07:03 PM
My current working theory is that Romney has decided he's just fine being wealthier than 99.999% of the people on the planet and doesn't want to be President after all so he's just going to keep fucking up his campaign with his mouth.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 12, 2012, 01:17:33 PM
he can't seem to open it without stupid shit falling out. then he just giggles about it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on September 12, 2012, 06:13:46 PM
His nervous giggling bugs the shit out of me.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 12, 2012, 08:15:20 PM
His repeated refusal to throw the military a bone has been really weird.  I'll give you that.

And you're right, the sinecure for a failed presidential candidate is way better than for an ex-governor.  He can get $50k for a dinner speech next spring.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 13, 2012, 10:32:25 AM
he's so bad he's making history:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/ron-paul-electoral-college_n_1880172.html

how can people not see him as something really bad for america?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 13, 2012, 10:35:55 AM
 :lol:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/09/attacked-on-foreign-policy-romney-cites-his-moneys-experience-abroad.html

you can almost believe this, especially the part about his camp telling him to shut up.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on September 13, 2012, 12:27:45 PM
Somebody brought the snark!

The Faithless Elector issue is something that gets worried about every four years. When are they actually going to be faithless and have some fun with their job? <insert TV star you wish wasn't one here> for President!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 13, 2012, 02:23:11 PM
This won't work in states where they require their electors to cast their ballots for the winner at the nationwide polls.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 13, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
Quote
how can people not see him as something really bad for america?

Bad for America?  He gives hair a bad name.

I like the idea that if a Democratic Senate picked the VP, they'd pick Biden.  Do they have to pick one of the existing VP candidates?  Could they not pick, say, Obama?  Because wouldn't that be awkward?  :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 13, 2012, 03:05:30 PM
In all seriousness it wouldn't be funny. they have independent Governor / Lt. Governor races in this (fucking) state and it's a real nuisance if they're hostile.

But on occasion it can be hilarious /mal
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: slippy on September 13, 2012, 03:07:14 PM
Adams & Jefferson had a hell of a time...
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 14, 2012, 08:20:05 AM
Soooo... I found out last night that my dad is a birther. I knew him to be a Republican and respected that and him; I'd never had reason to question his intelligence before he came out with this. Now I do.

This is also the first time I've ever had to argue the point, believe it or not. Here he is going on about how Obama went to some school in Kenya and something about his college transcripts, and I'm rebutting with "The Republican governor of Hawaii stood up at a press conference with his birth certificate", but he was undeterred. I mean... what do I do? More importantly, does Mom know? I sure as hell can't engage him in political discussions around my friends (or on Facebook) lest they wonder if the crazy apple managed to roll away from the tree after falling.

Shit.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on September 14, 2012, 08:47:59 AM
I sympathize.  I got into a discussion with my brother a couple of weeks ago about how there are only 2 people running for President.  UMMMMM, I can know of at least 4 legitimate candidates.  But they don't count cause they can't win.   UMMMM, then it's not really so much of an election as it is a purchasing of a Presidential figure (and government).
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 14, 2012, 09:18:18 AM
You know, Cheney lied about his place of residence and technically wasn't eligible to run for VP.  (He and Shrub officially lived in the same state at the time they filed to run for office, and that's not allowed.)  Why don't the Birthers care about that?

I'm not saying it's racism, because it's equally the homer mentality.  But it's still hypocritical bullshit.  Besides, some of our more important Presidents, such as Washington, weren't born in the US.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 14, 2012, 09:54:16 AM
I sympathize.  I got into a discussion with my brother a couple of weeks ago about how there are only 2 people running for President.  UMMMMM, I can know of at least 4 legitimate candidates.  But they don't count cause they can't win.   UMMMM, then it's not really so much of an election as it is a purchasing of a Presidential figure (and government).
There was a point in the conversation where I wasn't sure if he was joking, so I just played off of that; then when I realized he was earnest and actually believed the President wasn't a citizen, I just had to chuckle and keep chuckling. At this point, that's still my fallback position; I haven't formulated any kind of intelligent response. Just laugh at the absurdity of it and move on.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 14, 2012, 02:22:29 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/mitt-romney-innocence-of-muslims-video_n_1883523.html
Quote
"...  under the First Amendment, people are allowed to do what they feel they want to do."

No, Mr. Romney, that's not actually true. That bit aside, I think it's great that you finally decided to denounce this video almost 2 days after your competitor (and a laundry list of legislators from both parties) did. Welcome to the party.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 14, 2012, 02:25:42 PM
It's a no win situation.  Just fake listen politely and nod your head.  Actually just about any political discussion is in the same boat.

Regardless I still stir the shit and share offensive politically related stuff on fbook and it draws out a few of my peeps who are various degrees of craythuh.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 14, 2012, 02:28:26 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/mitt-romney-innocence-of-muslims-video_n_1883523.html
Quote
"...  under the First Amendment, people are allowed to do what they feel they want to do."

No, Mr. Romney, that's not actually true. That bit aside, I think it's great that you finally decided to denounce this video almost 2 days after your competitor (and a laundry list of legislators from both parties) did. Welcome to the party.

Competitors.  Don't forget Stein and Johnson.  Plus there will be a few others on our state ballot and your state ballots may have others too.  If people keep voting for giant douches and turd sandwiches we're all fucked.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 14, 2012, 02:37:27 PM
Quote
Competitors.  Don't forget Stein and Johnson.

Wait, did they also come out denouncing the video? I was unaware.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 14, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
I don't know if they denounced the video or not, my point was there are competitors not a single competitor.  The press doesn't tend to cover them, and I'm mostly media free and not into many of the petty details that the demublicans and the republocrats try to frame.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 14, 2012, 02:56:58 PM
That's fair. My point wasn't singling out the dual party/multi-party argument, my point was that Romney immediately went political, slamming Obama for this, that and the other thing; and couldn't be bothered to do what everyone else was doing at the time, which was denouncing the video.

If it helps, you're right. Gary Johnson published this statement (http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/gov-gary-johnson-releases-statement-regarding-libya-attack) on the 12th, although I poked around in good faith to try to find what Jill Stein said and couldn't locate any reaction.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 14, 2012, 03:46:29 PM
GAD DAMN HE'S SO FUCKING STUPID!!!

Quote
And the idea of using something that some people consider sacred and then parading that out a negative way is simply inappropriate and wrong. And I wish people wouldn’t do it," he said. "Of course, we have a First Amendment. And under the First Amendment, people are allowed to do what they feel they want to do."

YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE PEOPLE THINK IS SACRED YOU TWIT? LOVE! YES, THAT'S RIGHT, LOVE. LOVE THAT TWO PEOPLE HAVE EVEN IF THEY'RE THE SAME SEX!! YOU FUCK TARD!!

AND GUESS WHAT ELSE SIMPLETON? THAT'S NOT HOW THE FIRST AMENDMENT WORKS.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 14, 2012, 06:40:08 PM
He really is terrible at this.  Gingrich-bad.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 14, 2012, 11:40:01 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533767_463224327044598_1280848823_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 18, 2012, 06:10:53 PM
so, basically i'm just going to say what i think my backers and supporters want to hear so i can win. the internet? no, not familiar with it. cameras? nope, never heard of them. recording devices? what is this black magic you're speaking of?

http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romney-47-percent-obama-victims-dependent-2012-9

fucking idiot just can't keep his mouth shut.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 18, 2012, 08:03:39 PM
I'm more and more convinced he doesn't really want to win.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 18, 2012, 08:16:38 PM
Like Paul Rudd's character in Parks & Rec. 

Hmm.  The similarities are astounding.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 18, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
I just started Season 4.  I must be psychic!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on September 18, 2012, 09:48:21 PM
I think he's such a sociopath that he's incapable of acting like an actual human. He just doesn't get it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 18, 2012, 10:17:15 PM
Well, he could take lessons from Ryan.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on September 19, 2012, 12:20:56 AM
I don't think he knows either.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 19, 2012, 01:29:02 AM
i don't know all the ins and outs of his campaign and the people involved with it, but from what i've read in the media they've all been telling him to think about what he says.

the media on the other hand, even the the right wing media, thinks that he's only hurting himself by making speeches without taking the time to research the topic or listen to his people.


he may very well be a sociopath. he did live a pretty sheltered life as a child and adolescent. he spent his younger years with only his mormon pals in europe.

also, i don't care what anyone says, mormonism is a top rank cult.

maybe i think about this too much, but i'm really scared about him becoming president. i think it might start a slide in the wrong direction. we'll get a right wing congress (not that that doesn't exist now) that has a huge amount of money behind it, a right wing supreme court, more and more crazies coming out and thinking it's okay to be prejudice and a true limit of our civil rights. his campaign message says to cut spending, but he has no plan to cut military spending. that's one of the largest expenditures of our govt. for the last 8 years.

okay, i'm babbling . . .

he's a dick.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 19, 2012, 09:22:31 AM
Well.

Mormonism varies, although the church elders would prefer to believe otherwise.  I've known Mormons a long way from Utah who are very casual Mormons, just like I've known very casual Catholics and very casual Jews.  The central church is extremely cultish, though, right down to its pernicious obsessive control over women and children.

However, in my experience the worship of money tends to trump the worship of any faith.  There are exceptions, but generally the wealthier someone is, the less seriously they take their religion, deep down.  I'm sure Romney uses the Mormon Church, politically, more than they use him.

If Romney does think he can win, I'd have to say that party officials have probably told him it's in the bag.  He probably feels like it doesn't matter much what he does.  Could they steal the election?  They stole two national elections in the last twelve years.  So who knows.  But they have a certain level of plausibility they have to maintain.  They're not the Globetrotters.  So the more the popular vote goes against Romney, the less the chance that election tampering can swing it for him.

As for sliding the wrong way . . . we got screwed as soon as W took office.  It got vastly worse after 9/11.  The whole point of terrorism is to make the enemy overreact, and we couldn't have fallen for it harder without dropping nukes in the Middle East.  We validated their entire game plan and did all their heavy lifting for them.  Obama either wasn't strong enough to reverse that or feels he has to wait until his second term.  I don't know.

Military spending is crazy, but our whole military really should be overhauled.  It's tremendous, but it's a mess.  If it were a corporation, it would have been doomed a long time ago.  A lot of the GOP wants to go much more toward corporate military contractors -- not suppliers, but private military firms.  Of course, they've also shown that they want to make it more of a boondoggle than ever, too.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 21, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/rick_perry_satan_church_state.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

what the fuck

how do these people fit their egos through the door?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 21, 2012, 02:29:18 PM
I can't tell anymore what's crazier and what's more normal.  Not after Mitt appeared with brown skin toner for the debate on Univision.

Maybe he's just doing a Lenny Bruce thing.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 21, 2012, 05:01:54 PM
Derp.  Andy Kaufman, not Lenny Bruce.  That's the cold talking.


Meanwhile, in Louisiana, tax dollars pay for voucher schools to ruin children (http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-dollars?fb_action_ids=420429941327715&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582).

tl;dr short version, they teach that:

-  Humans lived with dinosaurs.
-  Also dragons.
-  God killed the Indians to turn them into Christians.
-  Africa needs Jesus.
-  Slavery was mostly the best thing for everyone involved.
-  And the KKK was a good thing.
-  The Great Depression is liberal propaganda.
-  The US enslaves unborn babies.
-  Communism is Satan attacking families.
-  Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson suck.
-  Higher math is the devil's BS. 
-  Gay people = criminal perverts.
-  Environmentalism's goal is the destruction of wealth.
-  Globalism is a preamble to the Rapture.


The end of the article has a link to an interesting story about Governor Jindal's attempt to cure a cancer patient with an exorcism.  One of the GOP's best and brightest, that one.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on September 21, 2012, 08:52:47 PM
Quote from: Some Publisher link=http://www.abeka.com/Distinctives.aspx
Unlike the "modern math" theorists, who believe that mathematics is a creation of man and thus arbitrary and relative, A Beka Book teaches that the laws of mathematics are a creation of God and thus absolute. Man's task is to search out and make use of the laws of the universe, both scientific and mathematical.

A Beka Book provides attractive, legible, and workable traditional mathematics texts that are not burdened with modern theories such as set theory. These books have been field-tested, revised, and used successfully for many years, making them classics with up-to-date appeal. Besides training students in the basic skills needed for life, A Beka Book traditional mathematics books teach students to believe in absolutes, to work diligently for right answers, and to see mathematical facts as part of the truth and order built into the real universe.
[emphasis added]
OK, high school kids don't need to understand Banach-Tarski Paradox  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%80%93Tarski_paradox)[I don't!], or possibly levels of infinity, but come on! Without the concepts of set theory, a lot of computer science is going to be Dark Magic, especially Object-Oriented Languages. But maybe they can get along without high tech jobs?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 21, 2012, 09:17:43 PM
Yeah, well, you know.  The aim here is not to turn out smart people.  The aim is to churn out unquestioning followers with credit cards and votes.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 22, 2012, 07:38:40 AM
Yeah, well, you know.  The aim here is not to turn out smart people.  The aim is to churn out unquestioning followers with credit cards and votes.

This
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 22, 2012, 10:15:19 AM
Turns out that Romney's more of a psycho-religious douchebag than I thought (http://www.alternet.org/belief/mitt-romneys-role-mormon-bishop-shows-his-extremist-religious-beliefs).

I mean . . . wow.  Ugh.  Don't know if he's a True Believer or if he's just a sadistic misogynistic homophobic control freak, but I'm not sure if it matters.  But considering how he's flip-flopped on these issues as a candidate, over the years, I tend to think it's the latter.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 22, 2012, 01:32:19 PM
If you pray hard enough the coding will miraculously appear, sillies.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 25, 2012, 06:49:24 AM
Holy shitsticks. "Mitt Romney, On 60 Minutes, Cites Emergency Room As Health Care Option For Uninsured"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/23/mitt-romney-60-minutes-health-care_n_1908129.html

Because that's not something we're already doing. Because it's worked out so damned well.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 25, 2012, 07:09:33 AM
Well, that proves he's not concerned with tax burdens.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 25, 2012, 07:34:31 AM
Quote
“I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don’t think she knows just how worried some of us were.  When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she’s safe and sound.”

- Mitt Romney, regarding his wife's emergency landing in Colorado
LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-beverly-hills-fundraiser-20120922,0,2317962.story)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hedaira on September 25, 2012, 09:42:54 AM
Quote
-  Higher math is the devil's BS.

Well, they had to get at least one thing right. Law of averages and all that.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 25, 2012, 12:10:29 PM
Quote
Mitt Romney, regarding his wife's emergency landing in Colorado

The level of stupidity is staggering.  That would have been tough to hear coming out of Dan Quayle's mouth.

There's so much wrong with it, but, uh, does he just think the plane is sealed and there's no fresh air introduced or oxygen supply during the trip?  Hey, try not to breathe too much on an international flight, everybody!

Plus he obviously has not listened to a single pre-flight instruction speech ever.  The bag may not appear to inflate, but oxygen is flowing to the mask.  Secure your own mask before attempting to run for public office.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 25, 2012, 12:26:37 PM
Aircraft that fly above 12K feet are pressurized for a reason.  And chances are she was on a Gulfstream, Hawker, Leer, etc. and would have been flying at 30-40K feet.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 25, 2012, 12:57:56 PM
steve, let's go to payne stewart for his take on this whole, "open a window on a plane" topic.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 25, 2012, 08:02:12 PM
Quote
And chances are she was on a Gulfstream, Hawker, Leer, etc. and would have been flying at 30-40K feet.

One of my clerks pointed out that perhaps Romney has never flown on a commercial aircraft and thus has never heard the standard pre-flight safety lecture.

Still.  If you own a private jet and have never learned the rudiments of how it works, even to understanding what to do in an emergency, then you're a dick.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 25, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
it was a canadair challenger 601. (https://www.google.com/search?q=Canadair+Challenger+601+aircraft&sugexp=chrome,mod%3D4&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=EmJiUMjPIurryAG8koCYAw&biw=1600&bih=813&sei=GWJiUP-pJ5TYyAH8u4AY)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 26, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
Romney: Teacher contributions to politicians should be limited (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57520009-503544/romney-teacher-contributions-to-politicians-should-be-limited/)

Right. Because the NRA or Koch brothers or <insert your favorite lobby here> aren't creating a conflict of interest in the Republican party.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 26, 2012, 10:48:13 AM
Quote
"I don't know that I would prevent teachers from being able to strike," he said, adding later that "allowing teachers to strike on matters such as compensation I think is a right that exists in this country."

 :huh:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 26, 2012, 11:34:01 AM
Dumber than a drainclog.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 26, 2012, 05:41:12 PM
steve, let's go to payne stewart for his take on this whole, "open a window on a plane" topic.

Ouch, I was just thinking about him today when the plane I was in at a surprising 40,000 feet started making odd noises.

Never been to 40,000 feet before. Guess that pilot REALLY wanted to get above the weather. Daaamn.

Also, as I've been saying for weeks, I think Mittster no longer wants the job. Seriously, being stupid rich is far better than being POTUS and he might have the one or two brain cells required to realize that.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 26, 2012, 06:02:37 PM
i've always firmly believed we'd never have a smart man for a president. no one that smart wants a job that hard and thankless.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 26, 2012, 06:11:55 PM

Also, as I've been saying for weeks, I think Mittster no longer wants the job. Seriously, being stupid rich is far better than being POTUS and he might have the one or two brain cells required to realize that.

Yeah, sometimes I think maybe he's thinking, "Well, that trophy would have looked nice on the mantel, but it's just too much trouble."

OTOH, I'm seriously concerned he's going to get elected. There was a bit on the NewsHour about the college student vote, and the polls are saying there's still 10% undecided among them. How could you be undecided?

I think the vote-out-the-incumbent-because-life-sucks-right-now vote is being underestimated.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 26, 2012, 06:13:30 PM
Ugh.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 26, 2012, 06:43:46 PM
Nate Silver shows Obama getting 312 EVs, but if the election were today 333 EVs.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 26, 2012, 06:48:26 PM
And he's forecasting a D majority in the Senate, too.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 26, 2012, 06:58:22 PM
Well there already is a D majority in the Senate, so that's not exactly radical ...

I was just reading a comment on metafilter (unsourced, so I won't bother to refind and link it) which claimed right-wing pollsters were tweaking their demographics to make their guy look better.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 26, 2012, 06:59:16 PM
Nate Silver shows Obama getting 312 EVs, but if the election were today 333 EVs.

I hope he's right, but I also hope most (D) voters don't listen to him and go ahead and vote.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 26, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
Well there already is a D majority in the Senate, so that's not exactly radical ...

Right, but last month he had the Senate flipping.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 26, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
Quote
How could you be undecided?

Yeah, that happens every election, though.  The simple, sad fact is that a huge number of simple, sad people find thinking too unpleasant and have learned not to do it.  They do other things that make them feel like they're thinking.  A lot of people think they're thinking when they're really just agonizing over a decision.  Often they're really just slowly inuring themselves to the choice they've long since decided they'll make.

We are a nation of rationalizers.  And then, when people's little wavefunctions collapse and they arrive at an unthought decision, they feel a huge relief at not having to pseudothink about it anymore, and their behavior is reinforced.

So much of school and religion and chauvinism and advertising consists of teaching people not to think about what they're told . . . can't really expect too much.

But if Romney wins, I'm sure it'll be through cheating.  I mean, come on -- not only is it a party speciality, but you know they must want to see how good their influence over the system is.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 26, 2012, 09:30:55 PM
Right, but last month he had the Senate flipping.

Ah. Whoa. Weird.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 26, 2012, 11:17:27 PM
I haven't voted for a dem or repub since Clinton in '92.  This one I'm voting for Stein, but I'd vote for Johnson before I'd vote for the Barackstar or Rmoney.  McKinney was the last one (the full black candidate).  Nader was 2004.  Browne in 2000.  Nader in 1996.  In 1992 I guess I bought into the there are only two parties, so it's an either or choice.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 26, 2012, 11:38:50 PM
Did you guys see the SNL commercial about the undecided voter?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 27, 2012, 06:24:03 AM
SNL still exists?

 :P
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 27, 2012, 07:07:13 AM
i've always firmly believed we'd never have a smart man for a president. no one that smart wants a job that hard and thankless.

It's truly ironic that the people we'd most want doing this job will never want to do it. We should find a way to make them do it anyways. That'd be something.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 27, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
I like Jill Stein a whole lot. I'll probably vote for her if CA's guaranteed to go for Obama.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 27, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
I would love for CA to go for Stein and Texas go for Johnson and neither plutocrat to get enough electoral votes.  Although that would give Rmoney the POTUS then but perhaps we could get rid of the Electoral College then or possibly have a constitutional crisis.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 27, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
Heh. Well. That would be worse than re-electing the President. I actually don't want another civil war. I just think that if things keep going the way they're going we'll have to have one. Maybe Rmoney getting crushed this time will help. The big thing that has to happen is the Supreme Court needs to get fixed. It will just get worse if Rmoney gets in.

I still do want a large-scale massacre in Wall Street, however. That'd be nice.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on September 27, 2012, 12:08:44 PM
That's where the Libertarian gun nuts can come in handy.  Can the Koch brothers security be that good?  Do they drive around in Pope-mobiles?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 27, 2012, 12:11:51 PM
Heh.

*waves to all the nice FBI agents*

NEX ISN'T HERE, GUYS

:fyp:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on September 27, 2012, 12:17:50 PM
I like Jill Stein a whole lot. I'll probably vote for her if CA's guaranteed to go for Obama.

Frickin' hippie.

<runs away>
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on September 27, 2012, 01:06:01 PM
Technically I will most likely be voting for Stein. But really, what I will be doing is trading votes with my sister. Since she believes in voting for a third party candidate, but lives in Florida, she is willing to "trade" votes. I will vote for her third party candidate here in Georgia, because we are a lock for the repubs anyway; and she will vote for my candidate in Florida - where it counts.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on September 27, 2012, 04:41:52 PM
I'm voting for Obama. I know, I know. I just feel this time around I need to help make sure he gets elected, and not Rmoney.

Even though I'm not happy with the whole drone program.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 27, 2012, 05:52:17 PM
The drone program is 50/50.  And it could be a lot worse.  Not closing Gitmo is a million times worse.  I realize more people have died due to drone strikes than Gitmo, but the drone strikes are theoretically a legitimate military exercise (theoretically), whereas Gitmo serves no actual furtherance of US security and, if anything, only hurts us in a variety of ways.  Not to mention hurting other people.

The drone strikes actually have much lower collateral damage levels than most military strikes.  They just get more coverage because they're newer.  The real dangers with them are that because they're seen as being fundamentally different from putting our soldiers in direct danger, and because they're largely operated outside of the normal military chain of command, the normal constraints may tend to, uh, evaporate psychologically. 

It's important to get them back into the same realm as an artillery strike.  Rein that shit in.  Dropping a Sidewinder from a drone can't become casual.

Obama's been a huge letdown in a lot of ways, but (A) he's still lightyears better than anyone the GOP cares to put forward, and (B) for all I know he's been playing things conservatively because he wanted to have a chance at a second term.  Maybe he'll swing left.  One can hope, even if one doesn't Hope.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on September 27, 2012, 06:09:34 PM
I'm not really sure what more he could do to get Gitmo closed.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 27, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
Relocate Congress there?

Yeah, I'm not sure.  But he could have tried louder.  But, like I said, that might have guaranteed no second term. 

:shrug:

We have to close it, though.  It's a fucking travesty, right up there with supporting terrorists in Central America and fucking up Iran moronically and so on, except even more un-American.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on September 28, 2012, 12:06:54 AM
In the scope of things, there's never going to be a candidate that I agree with 100%.

However, Rmoney's positions and (questionable) character so frighten and anger me, I want to vote for the person who is most likely to beat him.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 28, 2012, 08:28:23 AM
The lesser of available evils, as a principle, is the utter soul of politics.  Idealism is like a magnet used to try to pull things this way or that, but the machine has a Tilt setting.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 28, 2012, 10:14:54 PM
OOPS (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/09/28/florida-voter-registration-fraud-republican/70001371/1). 

Yes, a firm the GOP hired to register voters in multiple states is already busted in Florida for voter fraud.

Quote
Santa Rosa County elections officials found 100 problematic forms out of about 400 turned in by the state Republican Party. Most did not include Social Security numbers. Others had date of births that did not match the names. Some listed fake house numbers.

And so on.  And it's not the first time the company has been accused of fraud.  The RNC payed these guys over $3 million this time around to 'help' voters in seven states.  They also got busted in Colorado last week (http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_21656438).

Smooth.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 29, 2012, 02:58:58 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/644116_536690493023133_1347056678_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 01, 2012, 01:40:05 PM
Quote from: deadspin
The NFL locked out its referees in the name of taking away their pensions. It was not that the pensions were a threat to the longterm fiscal survival of the league—again and again, we were reminded that the sums involved were pocket change in a growing, multibillion-dollar enterprise. It was that the pensions existed at all. The mere existence of a defined-benefit retirement plan offended an ownership class that had looked around and seen that every other business owner in America had already broken that particular contract. The referees' old deal was deemed insufficiently hard-edged or market-driven. That was the most vulgar thing about the lockout. It was a matter of ideological purity. It was … aesthetic. (http://deadspin.com/5947008/the-nfl-sacrificed-three-weeks-of-games-on-the-altar-of-bullshit-ideological-purity?tag=nfl-roundtable-2012)

Could this be the lugnut that breaks and causes the wheels to finally fall off the political right wing? They messed with football. And now everyone wants them dead.

I'm fascinated.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on October 01, 2012, 01:45:10 PM
Fuck, I wish I had a defined benefit plan.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on October 01, 2012, 01:53:04 PM
Me too.  Hell I wish I had a dollar of discretionary funds.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 01, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
Yeah, and the reason you don't, in a nutshell, is that the guys who own the NFL exploited cheap labor overseas to break the unions here.  :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US: :US:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 01, 2012, 05:35:17 PM
The NFL has always tried to make its refs interchangeable non-persons with as few rights and as little job security as possible.  I don't even want to know WTF is wrong with the league.

It's weird how progressive the NBA is, especially considering that several of the owners are (surprise, surprise) wildly racist 1940s-throwback billionaire assholes.  But a lot of the progressiveness in the NBA comes directly from the players, who even go outside the league to support each other and even support players who retired decades ago.

Pro sports is sort of an acid test of the principle of the meritocracy.  Which makes it especially ironic and telling that the right wing would fuck it over.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 05, 2012, 04:19:05 PM
OK, who put scopolamine in Scalia's baby blood breakfast drink?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 05, 2012, 08:10:53 PM
Meanwhile, back at the Stupid Ranch (http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/10/05/tea-party-rep-paul-broun-evolution-and-big-bang-are-lies-straight-from-the-pit-of-hell-why-yes-he-serves-on-the-house-science-committee-with-todd-akin/) . . . .

This is why we can't have nice things.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on October 05, 2012, 08:14:47 PM
GOD DAMMIT WHY DO THESE ASSHOLES HAVE SUCH A BIG PLACE IN OUR SOCIETY AND GET PAID FOR IT WHEN I LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK? (barely)

it's a shame that this belief is still perpetuated in this day and age. we have paintings older than 9,000 years old. why didn't they paint the ark?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 05, 2012, 08:55:26 PM
They probably did, but, you know, watercolors.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Hisey on November 06, 2012, 11:50:10 PM
Things only a Republican can believe:
That "HAHAHAHAHA" is a good response to a fact they don't like
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on November 07, 2012, 04:41:37 AM
I have found that to often be the case as well.  :(
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2012, 09:31:14 AM
Well, let them laugh at this:  New Hampshire -- New Hampshire -- not only went for Obama but became the first state to ever elect a female governor and an all-female Congressional delegation.  One GOP senator among them.

For governor, Democrat Maggie Hassan (!) defeated Republican Ovide Lamontagne (!), and reportedly the Tea Party there is already boiling over.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on November 07, 2012, 04:07:39 PM
From The Onion: After Obama Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early GOP Front-Runner For 2016 (http://www.theonion.com/video/after-obama-victory-shrieking-whitehot-sphere-of-p,30284/)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2012, 05:17:34 PM
I never actually heard anyone threaten to move to Australia, but this still made me laugh (http://i.imgur.com/UhsVm.jpg).
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 07, 2012, 05:26:19 PM
I think I would have left out the line about "pro-choice when it comes to contraception". It kind of takes away the punch.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
True dat.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on November 08, 2012, 01:07:08 PM
if you have a headache you may want to just avoid this.

http://electionresultbutthurt.tumblr.com/

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: feffer on November 08, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 08, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img233/9563/derptopotato.png)



Incidentally, this was worth seeing:

(http://i.imgur.com/oDQkl.jpg)

GET A BRAIN, MORANS.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 08, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md4uvxmhdP1rkd8gso1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on November 08, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
The cheese will follow, naturally.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on November 09, 2012, 04:17:23 PM
things only an idiot can believe:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/eric-dondero-boycott-democrat-libertarian.html
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Anyone who considers taking that advice seriously should definitely take that advise seriously.  Although you gotta love how quickly he tries to weasel out of it so he can still listen to bands he likes.  What a simp.

So so many right-wingers like this right now.  We get it.  The wrong team won, and WTF, you were so cheated, the refs called that totally bogus foul on Romney in the fourth quarter.  It's fixed.  They threw the election so the bookies in Vegas wouldn't get busted.

Simmer down.  You all sound like drunk 16-year-olds.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 23, 2012, 10:27:36 PM
SAXBY CHAMBLISS vs GROVER NORQUIST

In the crazy-name white dude Republican fiscal nonsense showdown OF THE YEAR!

Your ticket buys you a seat, BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on November 24, 2012, 05:12:51 AM
Don't forget Reince Priebus.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 24, 2012, 07:53:12 AM
:lol:

Yeah, but Saxby and Grover are feuding right now.  Grover believes it's better that 99% of the population should die than that we should raise taxes.  Saxby had signed Grover's anti-tax pledge years ago, but this week he told the press that it would be better to raise taxes than wreck the country.

To his credit, Saxby acknowledged that Grover can probably keep him from getting elected again.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on November 26, 2012, 11:24:19 PM
so, my neighbor put one of these on his car (which had huge romney stickers on the windows):

(http://rlv.zcache.com/obama_commie_sticker_bumper_stickers-p128913547897000072en8ys_400.jpg)

i'm confused how people think obama is a communist, let alone what type.

i also find it odd that this guy did this. he's a twenty something black guy. he also put on another one with more words than a bumper sticker should have so i only caught a couple, "god/family/country" and some other stuff.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on November 27, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
The only explaination I can think of is "PEOPLE ARE STUPID"
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on December 11, 2012, 06:36:53 PM
Michigan has been trending Democratic, oddly enough, but because the GOP controlled redistricting, we've heavily trended undemocratic, if you follow me.  Despite not having anything like a majority, the GOP controls both chambers of the ledge, and we have a GOP governor.

SO despite considerable protests and an overwhelming lack of support, the GOP today rushed through two Right To Work laws, aka Fuck The Working Class.

It's official:  Michigan is a sweatshop state again.   Who knows, though -- maybe we can recall the governor over this.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on December 23, 2012, 10:25:26 PM
You know, a lot of the 'threat' of new gun restrictions is utterly, utterly the fault of the NRA.  LaPierre and his extremist gang of idiots who took over the NRA built their power structure on outrage and fear, which they themselves engineered Fox News-style.  It's exactly parallel to the GOP strategy of recent years -- claiming centrism while pursuing extremism.

And when it backfires, it burns.  The GOP has a lot more entrenched power and can withstand the public turning against them for a bit, but the NRA isn't nearly as powerful as they like to pretend.  If LaPierre, et al, hadn't insisted that all gun control is evil, they wouldn't be in the position they're in now.

I'm not saying we're on the eve of massive new gun regulation.  But if we are, the NRA is more to blame than anyone.  It's similar to the recent reports of how atheism is strongest, as a social movement, when and where religion is strongest.  LaPierre encouraged the NRA to be extreme, and the result is making them widely despised. 

Of course, he's around 65, so it's not really his problem for long, and he can follow in the GOP mold and retire to become a propaganda pundit.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 15, 2013, 10:11:05 AM
So, anti-gay marriage senator Rob Portman abruptly reverses his position!  Because his son is gay.

I was prepared for a vaguely inspirational story, here, but (sample interview (http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/15/politics/portman-gay-marriage/index.html)) it really seems like, no, this guy's an antisocial dick who only changed his view because while he may oppose civil rights for other people, he wants his own kid to be able to live like a normal person.

Man, does he ever come across that way.  What a miserable human being.  I like how he jokes about how he made anti-gay speeches after he knew his son was gay just because he hadn't decided to go public with it yet.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 15, 2013, 11:06:37 AM
My view of this is actually even more cynical. I think they've come around to the idea that they're losing votes and $$ because of this so they'll all start faking it now (though deep down they're still bigots). Think George Wallace in the '70s.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 15, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
You think . . . maybe his son isn't even gay?  I just want to know how cynical we're talkin', here.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: the other andrea on March 15, 2013, 12:46:03 PM

I was prepared for a vaguely inspirational story, here, but (sample interview (http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/15/politics/portman-gay-marriage/index.html)) it really seems like, no, this guy's an antisocial dick who only changed his view because while he may oppose civil rights for other people, he wants his own kid to be able to live like a normal person.

Man, does he ever come across that way.  What a miserable human being.  I like how he jokes about how he made anti-gay speeches after he knew his son was gay just because he hadn't decided to go public with it yet.

Jesus.

But this is ALWAYS, and possibly the ONLY, way these people ever have these kinds of epiphanies... conservative members of my family bitching about public assistance until they have a family member (like me) who have some kind of catastrophic illness and need these services. Then it's okay, because I'm not really a deadbeat, just an honest person down on their luck.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 15, 2013, 01:54:00 PM
You think . . . maybe his son isn't even gay?  I just want to know how cynical we're talkin', here.

No, no, faking that they believe in equal rights for gay people
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 16, 2013, 02:45:50 PM
Oh.  Yeah.

TOA, you're reminding me of Rush Limbaugh defending the period in his life where he was too depressed to get a job and was living off welfare.  He still paid a neighborhood kid to mow his lawn, though.  Because that was bootstrappy, or something.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on March 22, 2013, 03:57:41 PM
http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/137083/twenty-money-saving-tips-from-bankers-and-their-wives/
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on March 22, 2013, 04:02:35 PM
I wish I had a clothing budget of $4.5K a lifetime let alone a month.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 22, 2013, 04:45:30 PM
I changed my mind. We need more guns. We all need more guns.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on March 22, 2013, 04:56:11 PM
An Appeal on Behalf of Extremely Rich People  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8wQAGDuSRA)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on March 22, 2013, 05:19:14 PM
I changed my mind. We need more guns. We all need more guns.

No kidding.  Why haven't we heard of any of them being shot?  Is their security that good?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 23, 2013, 10:55:06 AM
A whole lot of effort goes into influencing who poor people hate.

I know this is obvious.  I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2013, 01:19:51 PM
Obviously his IQ is somewhere near room temperature, but I liked this quote from Santorum yesterday:

The President of the United States should never meet with someone who's not the president of their country.

WELL.  That could save him a lot of time by avoiding meetings with Congress.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 24, 2013, 03:00:28 PM
Oh I dunno, I think most of the House is crazy enough to be sovereign citizens.

Christ I've had some bad revelations on farcebook today like this. These people are, seriously, brain damaged. It's like half the country's voters are as crazy and paranoid as Alex Jones.

It's like the fucking triumph of postmodernism, there are no facts, there are no natural laws, everything is determined by your politics.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2013, 04:26:42 PM
It's not really politics, though.  It's just propaganda as a sport.  I am seriously amazed to see news footage of Congress, and there are no elephant / donkey mascots on the floor trying to whip up the crowd.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 25, 2013, 04:49:23 PM
Ted Cruz -- epic dumbass, or controlled by helicopters?  You be the judge.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 25, 2013, 05:34:48 PM
Can't it be both?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 25, 2013, 06:13:06 PM
Yeah, tough decision there. If asshole was one of the options, I'd have to go with that.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on September 26, 2013, 12:15:12 PM
Even the Republicans are awfully sick of him, so he may have written himself out.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on September 30, 2013, 06:39:18 PM
it's simply infuriating how they're holding the government hostage. fucking babies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9H3WQbupuww
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on September 30, 2013, 07:39:18 PM
We don't get told officially until we show up for work tomorrow, but if they don't move soon I'll only be going in to the office to make sure my office is safe for a while, turning off power, putting up an out-of-office message, etc. Then I'll go home and file for unemployment.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 01, 2013, 12:25:52 PM
Driving force behind it is Mark Meadows, new to Congress since last year, who wouldn't even have gotten elected if not for NC's absurd gerrymandering.  The GOP is happy to win by cheating or any means necessary, even if it means everyone loses. 

I was amused to see Newt Gingrich telling them to stand their ground no matter how long it took.  Huh.  It's been close to 20 years since we went through this stupidity, and the GOP waited until most people had forgotten what a debacle it was last time.  Who was in charge of it, last time?  Oh, right.  It was you, Newt.  You dumb serrated enema nozzle.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 03, 2013, 06:39:38 PM
it's simply infuriating how they're holding the government hostage. fucking babies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9H3WQbupuww

If I was a talk show host, I would have trap doors under the seats of the guests. Those two would definitely drop.

Another trend I've been noticing lately is that talk show guests like to answer questions by starting with "So".

Example:

Anchor: What color is the sky?

Guest: So, the sky is blue.




Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: TFJ on October 03, 2013, 07:51:45 PM
I've known two people who were problematic "so"-ers, but they both ended sentences with SOOOOO. One was a long O and the other used a short ooo.

One guy was an IT support guy where I worked in Canaan Valley. He'd say - Yeah outlook is going to be down but you can still use webmail, sooooooooooooooooo

The other guy was some douche canoe that did video editing in a lab here at UVA, but his sounded like SEW. If you need to make a video ask your 8 year old sister am I right? SEEEEEEEEEEW.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: TFJ on October 03, 2013, 07:53:55 PM
I hate that almost as bad as TV characters looking for clues on the internet, the word "fixins", and fuckin vulva puppets.

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on October 03, 2013, 08:28:16 PM
I am sick to death of the word "apparently". Start listening for it. I promise you that by mid-day you will want to punch the next person who says it in the throat.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on October 04, 2013, 02:21:21 AM
I'm all for fixin', the verb (i.e. I was fixin' to git around to it).  But fixins, the plural noun is pretty annoying.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 04, 2013, 06:07:50 AM
I don't think I've run across people ending their sentences with "so". I hope it stays away.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. (http://youtu.be/Qbh-UFYtYtA?t=40s) I just saw this one yesterday, and the NewsHour is where I've been noticing it a lot. It may be a DC thing.

I use "apparently" a lot, but it serves a useful function. It's not like the way these people are using "so". They could just as well be saying, "uh", but it's a little more condescending.

I worry that I use "actually" too much. I always think of Lou-Ann Pouvie (http://youtu.be/DRYl2FkEwUs?t=5m15s) when I do it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on October 04, 2013, 06:44:10 AM
Apparently I do use actually too much, soooooooo.....
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mybabysmomma on October 04, 2013, 11:40:33 AM
I totally get what you're saying.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 04, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
This is literally the thing that annoys me the most.

No, wait. This is figuratively the thing that annoys me the most.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 05, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
Quote
Apparently I do use actually too much, soooooooo.....

Yah, me too.  Also, dialect.

The punctuative "so" is really hard to avoid once you hear it and read it a million times.  I catch myself using it pretty frequently these days . . . . 

It will most likely eventually fall out of favor again, though.  Back in the 80s, apparently seemingly 50% of people used "like" at least twice per sentence, but gradually things got better.

I have a hard time ignoring compound subjunctives that are used as regular subjunctives.  I don't know why this so particularly rankles me, out of all the usage and grammar errors around us, but it just pops up and hits me in the face.

People mean:  If I had done that.

People say:  If I would have done that.

You would have done that.  You just didn't.  That's what you actually mean.  "If I would have done that" means you wouldn't have done that but now you wish that you would have.  That's something you might sometimes actually mean to say, so don't say it when it's not what you mean to say.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 05, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
 :hmm:

It took me a minute to grasp that, but yeah, okay. "Would have" generally sounds more formal than "had", and makes it sound better, even though it isn't necessarily more precise. I would have a hard time picking that out in discussion. I'm probably guilty of this when writing, less so when speaking, if that makes sense.

Quote
if i had given a shit

if i would have given a shit
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 05, 2013, 03:46:29 PM
Well, of course you can say "I would have gone to the party," which is subjunctive (the verb indicates that the predicate action, going to the party, didn't occur) but not conditional (mostly because there's no explanation given).

And you can make it conditional by saying "I would have gone to the party if she had gone."  There you've got two subjunctive clauses, one for you and one for her, and you could also phrase it "If she had gone to the party, I would have, too." 

And plausibly, but rarely, you might say "If she would have gone to the party, then I would have, as well," which is the compound form.  Here, you'd indicating that neither of you went to the party -- and that (as things actually occurred) neither of you would have wanted to go or would have chosen to go.  It's close to the same as saying "If she'd wanted to go, I would have wanted to, too."

But, for instance, you can't grammatically say "If I would have gone to the party if she had."
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 17, 2013, 03:12:50 PM
NSFW language (http://i.imgur.com/0okdFVs.png).

Seriously, though.  The Dems need to call them on this crap.  When was the last time the Democrats pulled any of this sabotage bullshit to try to get their way?  And the GOP is trying to normalize it. 

I realize that part of the difference is that the GOP, as a party, has vastly more discipline than the Democrats, who could never muster the solidarity necessary to stop, say, torture at Gitmo, much less overspending or whatever.  But they could at least make hay.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 17, 2013, 04:11:10 PM
And the GOP is trying to normalize it. 

Trying? They have failed in the polls, but I'm afraid a lot of people believe, and believed from day one, that it was Obama who "shut down the government" to make the people suffer.

The doublethink ability is scary.

And the Democrats are just acting like they're happy the psycho put down the gun.

Yeah, I agree, what happened needs to be pointed out very clearly.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 17, 2013, 04:59:59 PM
They were savaged in the polls, but, as Newt helpfully pointed out, we should have expected them to be even more unpopular, so apparently this is a victory all by itself.

He also said that if they can rebound by the 2014 elections, it'll prove they can use a shutdown anytime they want to.  The Democrats will still panic over it, but the voters will be bored with the idea and penalize the GOP less for it next time around.  So the theory goes.  We'll see.

Of course, the Newt shutdown was the excuse for why his fellow Republicans booted him, so who knows if we can believe anything he says.  Not you generally can . . . .
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on October 17, 2013, 05:30:50 PM
Polls don't matter that much in Congress, as the districts are so gerrymandered that few of them could ever lose their jobs.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 17, 2013, 05:35:41 PM
Yeah, that's kind of part of the idea of Congress, anyway.  Even if 95% of the country freaking hates you, it doesn't matter so long as your constituents like you.

Gerrymandering turns that into a joke, but politics is a game that rewards the rules rapists like no other.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 17, 2013, 06:10:21 PM
Yep.

Quote
...the voters will be bored with the idea and penalize the GOP less for it next time around.

I heard someone expressing a similar opinion, saying that long-term, this may all play to the tea party's anti-gov favor, in that it is disgusting the voters and alienating them from participating, caring, following, etc.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on October 17, 2013, 08:33:18 PM
Gerrymandering

out of all the things in politics i think this is the most misunderstood. in fact, most people have no idea it's even a thing. i think if they did there would be a huge outcry.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 18, 2013, 12:10:25 PM
North Carolina is getting the idea.  Michigan got twisted all GOP, though, and not many people noticed.  A few other states got taken the same way.

The redistricting thing is one of those things that takes organization and good control of propaganda.  The Dems are weak on both of these.  If it weren't for Teabag divisiveness, the GOP probably would be a lot stronger right now -- but the GOP really understands the value of the blockade-runner better, too.  They don't mind having a few outspoken nutbars to take point on public blather.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 25, 2013, 10:21:58 AM
You see these people on The Daily Show from time to time that are just totally out of touch, to the point it's shocking, but you don't expect to see repercussions. When I saw this NC county precinct GOP chair the other night, I was shaking my head in disbelief, but today I'm also in disbelief that the GOP has seen fit to force him to resign. I mean, it's the sensible thing to do, but that's the part I don't understand  :P

Things have just gotten too weird to predict.

http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Here-s-The-Racist-Daily-Show-Interview-That-4924666.php
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on October 25, 2013, 11:57:12 AM
it seems that's the way most of the southern politicians think.

gerrymandering

how did they know those 2 votes were him and his wife? was it an open vote?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 25, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
A lot of politicians think that way, but part of politics is not necessarily saying what you think.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 25, 2013, 04:34:55 PM
I was wondering if maybe this was a benefit of "social media", where this guy may have become comfortable spouting this type crap among his ilk, on FB or whatever, to the point that he thought it was suitable for publication.

The part where Aasif said, "You know that we can hear you, right?" made me  :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 25, 2013, 04:46:00 PM
For example, here's a snippet of an article about a city councilman outside of Atlanta:
Quote
McLain told the Sentinel Tuesday that he knew the posts were public and defended the remarks, which included referring to President Barack Obama as a "light skinned negro."

...

McLain's apology came a day after two gay rights activists criticized remarks on his page that linked to a story on the Scouts banning physically unfit Scouts from attending a physically demanding jamboree. McLain added the remarks "Gotta make room for the perverts. Can straight Scoutmasters attend?”
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 26, 2013, 12:08:38 PM
Common internet phenomenon:  If 1% of people hold an opinion, it's easy for them to find each other online and socialize that way.  Then they tend to feel like they're in a majority, because they keep talking to other people who hold the same unpopular opinion.

Applies to the Tea Party, furries, Pistons fans, 4chan, you name it.  It's been a force for good and ill, but mostly what it tends to do is to bring cultural minority subgroups into the limelight.  If there were only a thousand people in the entire country who were really into photoshopped porn showing dragons having sex with cars, eventually most of them are going to wind up in the same discussion group [1], and that will be enough to draw attention from somewhere that has a megaphone . . . .


[1]  At first.  Then schisms will form, and there will be competing subgroups, and you know how this goes.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on October 26, 2013, 01:12:50 PM
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/271/rule_34.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on October 26, 2013, 02:03:35 PM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8e266b871d5539672f7979f070581f77/tumblr_mv9vz3roJD1r0wqrdo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on October 28, 2013, 12:37:37 AM
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/271/rule_34.jpg)

That is just too funny.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 29, 2013, 12:46:52 PM
The news is positively and ludicrously histrionic at the moment.  Obama done fucked up a lot, but of course the 'blood' in the water is mostly bread crumbs.

- I've yet to hear a GOP screamer clearly state exactly what their problem is with the attack on our Benghazi embassy.  The most substantive complaint seems to be that . . . the Obama Administration was downplaying the terrorism angle.  That's what you're supposed to do in response to terrorism.  Terrorists are attention whores, like trolls.  You don't feed them.  Anyway, the whole thing is painfully obviously partisan and a rather poor-taste exploitation of the attack.


- The NSA thing . . . what, the Bush Admin wasn't doing some scummy things in the name of gathering intelligence?  [cough cough]  You guys weren't objecting then. 

And OF COURSE we spy on our allies.  The nature of spying is that you spy on everyone you can.  The scandal here lies in getting caught and getting outed in the press.  I'm reminded of the line from Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, which I would paraphrase as "Being with another woman, that is French.  Getting caught with another woman, that is not French."


- The Obamacare website thing is an embarrassing disaster, and frankly ridiculous to the point where I somewhat suspect sabotage.  But obviously it's too soon to have any reason to think that Obamacare is somehow a failure.  If Michael Schumacher's car stalls on the way to the pole position, it doesn't mean he's not going to win the race.


The Obama Admin has failed violently and, alas, consistently at PR.  The Dems are always weak as hell on that, although I had hope for this one, once upon a time.  But PR is the major issue in all three of these cases.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 29, 2013, 05:03:14 PM
Okay, you've convinced me to not watch the news tonight.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 29, 2013, 05:08:38 PM
The secret twist is that Lindsay Graham is a shameless attention whore.

It's not much of a twist.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on October 29, 2013, 05:14:31 PM
It's no secret that Lindsay Graham is a twit.

Oh. You said twist.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 14, 2013, 01:57:38 AM
While she was off for a few days, my wife's coworkers got notified that the work-provided insurance doesn't meet the ACA standards.  :eyeroll: That's why we're using my workplace's insurance, not hers. So what's the boss' response? To tell everybody that it's the Democrats fault, they must not have voted Republican. There's no other solution.

Exactly what problem is he solving? And in what time frame?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on November 14, 2013, 12:00:56 PM
i heard obama is getting a personal kick back from each insurance company that does this. it's a deal he and the kenyans worked out.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 14, 2013, 06:35:54 PM
That's a mild Obama conspiracy theory. Let me see if I can find some of those articles...
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 14, 2013, 07:04:10 PM
Here's a few:

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/10/obama-ousts-top-officers-after-nuke-explodes-in-ocean-instead-of-charleston/

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/05/oklahoma-tornado-conspiracy-theories/65499/

http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/is-obama-biblical-lord-of-the-flies/

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2013/01/24/orly-taitz-discovers-second-obama/

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/right-wing-conspiracy-theory-barack-obama-third-term

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/forensic-profiler-obama-confessing-election-fraud/

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/11/georgia-senate-gets-52-minute-briefing-united-nations-takeover

http://www.infowars.com/hurricane-sandy-divine-wind-for-obama/

disclaimer: I have not read any of these.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on October 21, 2014, 09:31:16 AM
OH GOP governor Kasich oops (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/20/politics/kasich-obamacare-here-to-stay/index.html).

In an interview:

Quote
A repeal of Obamacare is "not gonna happen".  "The opposition to it was really either political or ideological.  I don't think that holds water against real flesh and blood, and real improvements in people's lives."

After a call from his masters:

Quote
"The AP got it wrong. Ohio said NO to the Obamacare exchange for a reason. As always, my position is that we need to repeal and replace."

Sure.  Very convincing.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 15, 2014, 03:52:59 PM
Mistakes were made (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Waste-Water-from-Oil-Fracking-Injected-into-Clean-Aquifers-282733051.html).

No one could have predicted this! 
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 15, 2014, 04:29:11 PM
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“When you’re talking about wells that were permitted in 1985 to 1992, we’ve tried to go back and talk to some of the permitting engineers,” said Marshall. “And it’s unfortunate but in some cases they (the permitting engineers) are deceased.”

Yes, this is ancient history. Sorry, nothing we can do. Everyone responsible is dead. Move along.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 16, 2014, 01:16:24 PM
Well, at least we know it can never happen again, despite a lack of regulation.  Oil companies would never permit another whatever.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on May 04, 2015, 09:18:43 AM
Well, Carly Fiorina has officially announced her desire to be considered to downsize America.  I'm sure she's just pushing her brand and has zero expectation of being a viable candidate, but it's still popcorn-worthy.

I would watch a debate that included her and Ben Carson.  If we could somehow get Boehner to cry at the event, that would ice it.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on May 04, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
she can outsource the republican party to india.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on May 04, 2015, 11:14:00 AM
That would almost be amusing enough to garner a vote for her.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2015, 03:53:58 PM
A lotta money (the exact amount is disputed) and no sense of irony (http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/16/politics/donald-trump-2016-announcement-elections/index.html).

Donald Trump is the idiot savant of self-parody.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on June 16, 2015, 04:10:57 PM

Quote
"I'm really rich," Trump said, adding that his confident attitude is what the country needs after having "losers" run the country.


Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on June 16, 2015, 05:22:22 PM
He's got ego going for him. And... and... uh... a great ego!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: vox8 on June 17, 2015, 10:01:27 AM
“[Mexico] are sending people that have lots of problems, and they are bringing those problems to us. They are bringing drugs, and bringing crime, and their rapists,” the business mogul said."

Brilliant strategy to secure the Latino vote!
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on June 17, 2015, 02:41:33 PM
Last night's Moment of Zen (http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/c749y2/moment-of-zen---donald-trump-mourns).
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on June 18, 2015, 09:15:20 AM
His campaign posters should say TRUMP FOR TRUMP.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 13, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
The first time I ever heard of Sheldon Adelson was right hur in this hur joint.
Now he's gonna pick the next republican candidate, it appears :eyeroll:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/sheldon-adelson-is-ready-to-buy-the-presidency.html

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on September 14, 2015, 03:59:47 PM
Don't think of it as taking his money, think of it as taking the money he took from the innocent.

Wait. That's no help.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 14, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
Yeah. Hmm. Maybe you guys should make it a goal to take as much of his money as you can.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on November 16, 2015, 10:51:24 PM
 :rollin:

(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12274725_10206354370072984_3984451993249188827_n.jpg?oh=ae499b8b247e6c583302725364e80889&oe=56B8E227)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: phyre on November 18, 2015, 09:12:43 AM
It took me a surprisingly long time to catch that. I guess they just really hate the voters there.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on November 21, 2015, 01:42:20 PM
Nope.  I don't get it.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on November 21, 2015, 04:07:03 PM
Tennessee is misspelled.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 21, 2015, 05:22:03 PM
Now you know why I never got a job as a proof-reader.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 22, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
Ugh. I used to be really good at that. I stared at that too long and never noticed it.

This is more about my speed:

(http://i.imgur.com/Fl9AWcPl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Fl9AWcP.jpg)

click for biggerer
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 22, 2015, 11:52:00 AM
That guy must be a zombie.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 20, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
GOP strategist tells MSNBC  (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-guest-trumps-alt-right-fans-childless-single-men-who-masturbate-to-anime/)that Trump supporters are Hitler fans and that "Most of them are childless single men who masturbate to anime. They’re not real political players. These are not people who matter in the overall course of humanity."


Shots fired! 
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 20, 2016, 07:41:42 PM
That ... is an oddly specific bit of criticism there. It almost makes me wonder if this guy has actually run the numbers and this is what the data came up with.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on January 21, 2016, 12:39:23 AM
I wonder if the intersection of that set and the set of commenters on youtube, fark, news wesbites, whatever, is close to 100%
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 21, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
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It almost makes me wonder if this guy has actually run the numbers and this is what the data came up with.

Probably the RNC buys data from Facebook, which illuminates much.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on January 21, 2016, 01:09:29 PM
If Facebook told me the sun was coming up tomorrow I'd find Little Orphan Annie and waterboard her until she stopped singing.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on January 21, 2016, 03:46:29 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on January 21, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/j7HRaTs.jpg)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on January 21, 2016, 07:56:57 PM
Band Name!  Waterboarding Little Orphan Annie.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 22, 2016, 12:58:02 AM
or

T U S L A

where the S is a lightning bolt
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 23, 2016, 11:17:45 AM
:lol:


Can't see "Tulsa" without reading it backwards.  "Tulsa OK" backwards is "KO a slut".



The news of Bob Dole and a bunch of contemporary GOP senators lambasting Ted Cruz is pretty funny.  Several have said they'd rather have Trump, and at least two have said they'd rather have Bernie.  OOF.  Dole said Congress, even the Republicans, would probably rather work with Bernie than with Cruz.  Everyone except Ted Cruz hates Ted Cruz.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on January 23, 2016, 02:10:38 PM
I can't see how this whole thing is going to shake out. It scares me.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2016, 02:15:20 PM
Don't worry. Bloomberg will save them! :galm:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on January 23, 2016, 03:08:43 PM
Depends hugely on running mates.  And whether the GOP tries to steal the election, badly, and get called on it.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 23, 2017, 03:01:02 PM
i'm going to get beated up at my town hall.

i sense a seismic shift in the next senate election.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 23, 2017, 03:11:45 PM
Good luck, man.  Protect your head.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 23, 2017, 04:25:49 PM
i meant that's what republicans think. they're all dodging their town hall meetings because they're scared. dean heller said he'd have a town hall if no one booed. why do people get into civil service if they're only going to pursue their own agenda?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 23, 2017, 04:36:38 PM
Uh . . . because they only want to pursue their own agenda.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 23, 2017, 04:43:58 PM
so, i suffer from liberal brainwashing?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 23, 2017, 04:55:14 PM
Maybe . . . high expectations?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on February 23, 2017, 11:31:17 PM
Or just.... expectations?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on February 24, 2017, 01:12:00 AM
we have really good robots.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 24, 2017, 12:51:34 PM
we have really good robots.

Oh shit
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on February 24, 2017, 02:56:47 PM
I don't.  :nonplused:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on March 25, 2017, 03:09:37 PM
I really don't see how anyone can believe allowing ISPs to sell private customer data is a good idea. I can understand how the House and Senate votes can be purchased, but how can their constituents swallow this?

I just can't believe this is going through. I feel like I must not be getting all the facts or something. Data that required a warrant now just requires cash? Advertisers are trusted to keep the data secure? People were just all up in arms about phone surveillance. Were those only democrats? 

reference (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/03/how-isps-can-sell-your-web-history-and-how-to-stop-them/)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 25, 2017, 05:07:20 PM
Honestly, I have no idea WTF, if anything, GOP voters think about shit like this or the dismantling of the FCC.  But considering how many of them hate Obamacare and like the ACA, my guess is that enough of them just don't understand a moment of it.

If they're getting their news from Fox, etc, why would they?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on March 25, 2017, 11:33:54 PM
https://torguard.net/
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on March 29, 2017, 12:13:15 PM
I still run into an awful lot of Pizzagators on Facebook.  It genuinely makes me sad.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 17, 2017, 05:32:55 PM
jaysus fooking christ
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on August 18, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
I have accomplished almost nothing at work this week.  Mein Got im Himmel.  Vicken sie sich Nazi schwanzen.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 23, 2017, 12:49:32 PM
He's dragging the Republicans into dissolution, but the DNC is such bullshit that they can't even capitalize, and they're content to let this just go on and on in the hopes that it'll make them stronger in 2018. 

When I guess their slogan will be We've Been Asleep -- What's Been Happening?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on August 23, 2017, 04:42:39 PM
if the dems have an agenda it would be great if they'd let the public know.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2017, 12:56:21 PM
It's the same old story -- the Dems all fight to take over the Democratic Party, and the Republicans take over everything else while blaming the Democrats.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on August 25, 2017, 12:43:46 PM
I'm just hoping the two parties implode and independents start winning.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on August 28, 2017, 05:54:01 AM
I'd like to see the DNC take the cue from Rev. Barber and the Poor People's campaign, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on May 03, 2018, 10:15:35 AM
It's not like there was ever a time I didn't think Rudy Giuliani was a smug gibbering imbecile.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on May 03, 2018, 03:49:35 PM
I can't stop making memes.

https://twitter.com/perrydrake/status/991887412484714497
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 03, 2018, 04:19:17 PM
It's not like there was ever a time I didn't think Rudy Giuliani was a smug gibbering imbecile.

Quote wall time.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: Sidious on May 03, 2018, 06:53:52 PM
I can't stop making memes.

https://twitter.com/perrydrake/status/991887412484714497

 :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on May 03, 2018, 09:42:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcSec_0V4AEpQ7T.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on June 14, 2018, 10:41:33 AM
Just had two recruiters from the Air Force in here, asking if they could drop off some pamphlets.  Well, OK, a few. 

The pamphlets show five people, three of them women, none of them white.

Yay for Diversity?  Or Boo for Trying to Make Minorities Fight Wars?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on June 14, 2018, 01:21:27 PM
So is the air force hiring pilots or are they hiring gamers to control drones?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on June 14, 2018, 02:22:07 PM
Pamphlet would have you believe they're just paying people to get degrees.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on June 14, 2018, 08:15:05 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on June 15, 2018, 03:30:53 PM
Pamphlet would have you believe they're just paying people to get degrees.

Military is exempt from truth in advertising laws, I guess.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2018, 09:40:13 AM
They constantly have not-a-scandals where it turns out recruiters lied outrageously to get people to sign up.  Not just the Air Force, of course.  It's ridiculous.

And then there's that thing where we enlist non-citizens (which shouldn't even be allowed) and promise them citizenship after their service but then just deport them.  Ha ha!

Fucking crazy.  And kind of one of the things that, you know, destroyed the Roman Empire.  But utterly dickish even so.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 01, 2018, 05:45:08 PM
Eight years to accept the fact that coverage for pre-existing conditions might be a good thing. Can you call that progress?

Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 02, 2018, 09:14:25 AM
Nah, they're still looking to cancel the requirement to cover pre-existing conditions.  They just lie about it roughly 75% of the time.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: pdrake on November 02, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
This tune/tone will change 11/7.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 02, 2018, 03:38:21 PM
I know how they play. "You can have your pre-existing coverage, but don't expect healthy people to help pay for it! People who don't get sick shouldn't have to pay a penalty for those who do!"
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 02, 2018, 05:05:02 PM
How about "People who don't get rich shouldn't have to pay a penalty for those who do!" ?
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 03, 2018, 11:56:31 AM
 :rollin:
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: mo on November 19, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/caPJqL/rake.png)
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: random axe on November 20, 2018, 11:13:25 AM
Of course, this is a 'man' who thinks you rake the floor to keep it clean.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: stormneedle on November 20, 2018, 02:13:04 PM
I don't think he actually knows the names of tools, except possibly his advisors.
Title: Re: Things Only A Republican Can Believe
Post by: flipper on November 20, 2018, 04:08:28 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/caPJqL/rake.png)

Rake America Great Again.