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General => Politics, Government & The Law => Topic started by: Talix on January 11, 2011, 03:28:34 PM

Title: News you DID need
Post by: Talix on January 11, 2011, 03:28:34 PM
The intern who probably saved Congresswoman Giffords' life?  Latino and gay. (http://wonkette.com/434673/meet-your-superhero-gay-activist-latino-intern-daniel-hernandez)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hedaira on January 11, 2011, 03:42:38 PM
The intern who probably saved Congresswoman Giffords' life?  Latino and gay. (http://wonkette.com/434673/meet-your-superhero-gay-activist-latino-intern-daniel-hernandez)

This is more righteous and awesome than I have words for.

Namaste, Mr. Hernandez.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 11, 2011, 06:05:44 PM
And he's a Banana Slug. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on February 13, 2011, 07:14:19 PM
Awesome.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on March 01, 2011, 04:55:03 PM
I was not aware of this. http://fleeglesblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/counting-sheep.html
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 01, 2011, 05:01:40 PM
Well, farking hell.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 01, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
Nice. The supervisor was probably an old timer.

Stories like this kind of scare me. All the businesses and government entities that depend on their network and/or the internet, and have no backup plan. Where I work is no different. The shit's going to hit the fan one of these days.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on March 01, 2011, 05:16:12 PM
Nice
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on March 03, 2011, 01:01:21 PM
I had to steal the Robert Frost quote:

"Home is the place where, when you have to go there, they have to take you in."
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 04, 2011, 06:34:04 PM
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I had to steal the Robert Frost quote

I can imagine myself at Customs some day, trying to see if that will suffice all by itself.  :lol:

I may have to fall back on "Look, I just plain fucking curse too much to be Canadian, god damn it!"
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: hajen on March 25, 2011, 06:12:31 PM
Vt. House Passes Single-Payer Health Care Bill
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/03/25-1
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 25, 2011, 10:58:20 PM
Oooooooh . . . can't wait to see how that turns out.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 03, 2011, 06:58:25 PM
Of COURSE The Rock knew about the raid in advance (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/05/did-the-rock-know-about-osama-bin-laden-being-killed-before-the-press.html). He was supposed to lead the SEAL team, but they pulled him out at the last moment because of the risk that Osama would smell what he was cooking.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: First Post on May 03, 2011, 07:32:45 PM
I don't doubt he had prior knowledge. WWE is a bigger rah-rah-USA proponent than even NASCAR; every year they spend their Christmas holidays doing shows overseas for the troops. (Last night's "The Rock Birthday Party" began with a patriotic 911 montage, the Star Spangled Banner, and The Rock leading the crowd in the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance.) Wouldn't be surprised if he had friends on the inside that were involved in the inner workings of it somehow.

(sorta like back when Tom Clancy was a big deal and unsurprisingly gained a lot of big fans in the military, some of whom tipped him off to new tech they were using that wasn't publicly known before he wrote about them in his novels)

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 03, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
Edwards seems like kind of a dick, sure, but I'm a little unsure about this indictment.

They had been saying that he took money from his re-election campaign funds to buy off the woman he had an affair with. 

Now I've seen reports that what actually (apparently) happened is that two of his supporters gave money directly to the woman to support her and the kid Edwards fathered. 

Prosecutors have argued (with some precedent . . . sort of) that any money that Edwards' supporters gave this woman was on his behalf -- ie, it was so he didn't have to give her money, himself -- and therefore it was a gift to him.  As a tax case, that's unreported income, if you can make that chain solid, which is questionable. 

But the weird precedent goes to an argument that any gift given to a politician who expects to run for office again counts as a campaign contribution.  And that . . . that's over-reaching.  If two of Edwards' friends gave money to this woman, I don't think that can reasonably be construed as campaign contributions, even if it turns out that Edwards specifically asked them to do it on his behalf, regardless of whether they also made actual campaign contributions.

There might very well be something to charge him with -- certainly someone's guilty of tax violations, here -- and his political career could certainly be over, but this particularly line of prosecution sounds like BS to me.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 03, 2011, 12:06:43 PM
his political career could certainly be over,

Shoot, his political career has been over for quite a while. He's not a Republican so he doesn't get forgiven of stuff like that.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hedaira on June 03, 2011, 12:20:04 PM
Fuck Edwards and fuck the skank he was fucking while his wife was dying of cancer. Right in their rotten asses. 
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on June 03, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
Fuck Edwards and fuck the skank he was fucking while his wife was dying of cancer. Right in their rotten asses. 

THAT.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 03, 2011, 01:06:13 PM
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fuck the skank he was fucking while his wife was dying of cancer.

Yeah, that was pretty gingrichy of him.  He's a dick, I agree, but I still don't want a bullshit charge.  Being drummed out of politics in ignominy is about as much as you can do to most of these people, if you can't bankrupt them.

He's probably guilty of something illegal.  This idea that basically any gift to a politician counts as a campaign contribution just doesn't pass.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 03, 2011, 01:11:26 PM
:hmm:

"Gingrichy" is my new favorite adjective. Makes a great companion to "santorum."

Shall we write to Dan Savage?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on June 03, 2011, 02:38:38 PM
I'm now pledging to use "Gingrichy" in a sentence today.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mrcookieface on June 03, 2011, 03:00:08 PM
I was cleaning out the refrigerator and noticed the cheese was smelling a little gingrichy, so I threw that out too.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Talix on June 03, 2011, 03:09:26 PM
I just recently got rid of some old ricotta cheese, but peeked inside the container first.  Visually Grinchy with patches of orange; Gingrichy smell-wise.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 03, 2011, 03:12:07 PM
:galm:

I salute this second use of the adjective.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on June 03, 2011, 04:51:57 PM
I've noticed that my pants are getting too tight lately, and I'm looking fairly gingrichy when I look in the mirror.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on June 03, 2011, 05:58:29 PM
I was cleaning out the refrigerator and noticed the cheese was smelling a little gingrichy, so I threw that out too.

 :detta:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 09, 2011, 03:16:26 PM
Pretty much Newt Gingrich's entire campaign staff quit.

:popcorn:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on June 09, 2011, 03:18:01 PM
That's gonna get all stuck in your gums.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on June 09, 2011, 04:27:01 PM
Flossing is good for the gums. Besides, we need to celebrate this. Implosions usually aren't spectacular anymore.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 09, 2011, 05:05:42 PM
They're now saying that the team quit because they'd rather be trying to blow Rick Perry into office.  You can imagine why Gingrich assumed that'd be happening to him, but maybe he took too much for granted -- you know, a bit divorced from reality.

Of course, they may have just left him because of his periodic insistence on taking off his clothes and running after giraffes.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on June 09, 2011, 06:31:35 PM
Now if he'd run after gazelles, they'd just think he was an anthropologist...
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on June 09, 2011, 07:02:24 PM
That thought makes my innards feel all gingrichy.   :(
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 17, 2011, 02:04:16 PM
Boeing gets two serious hits in a row.  Impressive.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 05, 2011, 02:36:41 PM
Dear Local Gannett Newspaper:

Your website is unbelievably horrible.  Seriously, it is a swimmy mess of 10% news, 60% bullshit, and 30% intrusively incompetent web design.  I usually forego local news simply to avoid your site.  I went there today, and clicked on a lead story, and it took (I timed it, because I've used the site before) 78 seconds to load the page. 

In a different browser, with JavaScript turned off and ads blocked, it took six seconds.  With those settings, I can't read the second page of any story, and your pages are pathetically short (probably in a feeble and venal attempt to drive ad traffic), but this is still preferable.

Better still is to avoid your site and recommend to everyone that they avoid it.

Go have a look at the website for the Boston Globe.  It is not horrible.  Learn something.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: First Post on December 08, 2011, 01:45:44 PM
Trey Songz vs the dude from Storage Wars (http://www.eurweb.com/2011/11/trey-songz-getting-sued-over-yuuup-by-storage-wars-guy/), srs biz.

In a lawsuit filed in Manhattan federal court, Hester contends that Songz version of the phrase “resembles an animal-like or non-human squeal which begins with a distinct ‘yeeee’ sound before finishing with a squeal-like ‘uuuup’ sound,” which is “distinct and different from Hester’s more monosyllabic sounding guttural auction bidding phrase … which is meant to convey the meaning of ‘yes.’

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 08, 2011, 03:37:20 PM
I don't know who either of those guys are, although I've heard of Storage Wars, but . . . what the hell IP grounds apply here?  Is "signature sound" now something you can file a protection on?  It's not a word, image, or phrase, and are they really arguing that consumers will confuse them in some tort-generating fashion?

Shameless publicity move, I'm guessing.  Levy a fine for wasting the court's time.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on December 08, 2011, 06:50:45 PM
And kick out of the gene pool please.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 24, 2011, 10:35:18 AM
I hope I'm not the only one who finds it hilarious that Gingrich failed to get enough signatures to get on the primary ballot in Virginia.  He LIVES in Virginia.  And his campaign manager said last week that getting the signatures was their way of proving they had grass-roots support and were ahead of Romney in other states besides Iowa.

My goodness.  That is some miserable failure right there.

Perry also failed to collect enough signatures, but, who knows, he may have been going door to door collecting canned food, or something.  He's easily confused, and we know he can't count past two.  You need 400,000 signatures.  (Mr Perry, that's more than two, just so you know.)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on December 24, 2011, 10:59:48 AM
I hope I'm not the only one who finds it hilarious that Gingrich failed to get enough signatures to get on the primary ballot in Virginia.  He LIVES in Virginia.  And his campaign manager said last week that getting the signatures was their way of proving they had grass-roots support and were ahead of Romney in other states besides Iowa.

My goodness.  That is some miserable failure right there.

Perry also failed to collect enough signatures, but, who knows, he may have been going door to door collecting canned food, or something.  He's easily confused, and we know he can't count past two.  You need 400,000 signatures.  (Mr Perry, that's more than two, just so you know.)

The really sad thing is even this does not seem to faze them.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 24, 2011, 11:53:51 AM
That's OK with me.  If they're still running for President three years from now, I don't care.  They can run all they want.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on January 04, 2012, 11:59:43 AM
this has to be intentional:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/04/santorum-almost-comes-from-behind-but-romney-pulls-out-a-win-with-8-vote-lead/
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 04, 2012, 12:02:57 PM
SNICKER
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 25, 2012, 09:29:02 PM
I see this constantly, but today's Fbook version was the one that pissed me off, not for any particular reason.  I was just already in a bad mood.

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"Democracy, is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
 Freedom, is a well armed lamb contesting that vote."
 ~Benjamin Franklin 1759

FIRST of all, Franklin would consider you a boob for getting up on a soapbox and then choking on commas.  Separating the subject from the verb with a comma is trendy among people who don't know what commas are but want to look like they do.

But Franklin would slap the shit out of you for claiming you were quoting him while simultaneously making him look illiterate.

And "well-armed" is generally hyphenated in modern usage, but I don't know if it was in Franklin's day.

But SECOND of all, Franklin never said that.  I like how specific you were by claiming he said it in 1759, but he did not say it in any year.  The word "lunch" wasn't even in use during his lifetime, for crying out loud.  And this quote is frequently misattributed to Franklin, but rarely so specifically -- but it's usually "Liberty is a well-armed lamb", not "Freedom", so you've misquoted a misquote.

You could have looked this up.  If you think it's such a good quote and are using Franklin as an appeal to authority, try looking to see what he said.  A little context, maybe.

And THIRD of all, taking up arms to contest an election is obviously un-American.  So fuck off.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 04, 2012, 02:36:55 PM
From the current Lansing State Journal, this headline:

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Retired teachers reinvogorating classrooms

Story's only been live for fifteen hours, so I'm not surprised no one caught that.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 04, 2012, 02:41:48 PM
Man accidentally shoots himself and his wife (http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20120126/NEWS01/301260003/Michigan-man-accidentally-shoots-wife-self).

Newlyweds.  He managed to accidentally shoot himself in the hand, arm, and leg, and shoot his wife in the leg, while "familiarizing" himself with the handgun his wife bought him as a present.





Oy.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 04, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
That electrical utility I've complained about?  Could be worse.  They charged one woman $1500 for one month (http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20120204/COLUMNISTS09/202040301/Schneider-Consumers-customer-s-huge-bill-sorted-out), told her she must be the one who's wrong and that she should calm down.

Difficulty:  They haven't read her meter in at least 18 months because it's a pain to drive all the way to her house.

Nice.


edit:  I gotta stop reading the local news.  [ugh]
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on February 04, 2012, 04:21:15 PM
Man accidentally shoots himself and his wife (http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20120126/NEWS01/301260003/Michigan-man-accidentally-shoots-wife-self).

Newlyweds.  He managed to accidentally shoot himself in the hand, arm, and leg, and shoot his wife in the leg, while "familiarizing" himself with the handgun his wife bought him as a present.


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A public phone listing for the Gremores was not found.

DAMMIT!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 04, 2012, 05:04:00 PM
Dude.  The phone would ring, and that guy would probably answer the gun by mistake.  And manage to somehow shoot his wife, too.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on February 04, 2012, 06:21:33 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_uip5L3bqWPc/SQ_CT95mYrI/AAAAAAAAB6w/cCKKll2OOZU/s320/Charles+Darwin.gif)

damn! missed!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on February 04, 2012, 07:05:16 PM
She should have sprung for lessons.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 04, 2012, 07:08:09 PM
Man accidentally shoots himself and his wife (http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20120126/NEWS01/301260003/Michigan-man-accidentally-shoots-wife-self).

Newlyweds.  He managed to accidentally shoot himself in the hand, arm, and leg, and shoot his wife in the leg, while "familiarizing" himself with the handgun his wife bought him as a present.





Oy.

I bet it was a pink Susan Komen Foundation Walther P-22 Automatic For The Cure.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2012, 01:34:50 PM
Inexplicable, yes (http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20120225/NEWS01/302240063/Charges-dropped-Arthurhultz-case-due-inexplicable-unavailability-witnesses).

What a farking mystery.  Creepy former senator charged with, among other things, conspiracy to bribe/intimidate/interfere with witnesses, and now they can't locate the witnesses.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on February 25, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
Not good. I'd look into whether he had rented a boat on Lake Michigan lately. Or maybe rented a chipper.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 17, 2012, 04:22:20 PM
Should surprise me, but . . . OK, so, we had a very mild winter here, with about half the problematic snowfall of a typical one.  Every year, they moan about how much snow removal costs, which is especially annoying because they don't do much of it and generally don't do a good job of it anyway.

So surely this winter we saved a lot?  No, we reportedly saved about a quarter of a million bucks, or what it costs them to repave 3/4 of a mile of road.  Not that they fill most pot holes, and contractors here typically use insanely bad asphalt, so there are a lot of pot holes.  And to think people say Massachusetts is corrupt.

Anyway, they're reporting that the reason we didn't save much is because a disproportionate amount of bad weather, this past winter, was on weekends.  And we pay overtime for nighttime and weekend snow removal.

I don't know what morons negotiated THAT contract, but well done.  Well done.  I hope you freeze in a snow drift next winter, because that would be poetic justice.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 21, 2012, 03:34:50 PM
Oh my god, the Supreme Court made a pro-American ruling today.  Stop the presses.

They ruled that just as you're entitled to competent legal representation during a trial, you're entitled to competent legal representation when it comes to a plea deal, too.  Apparently the majority of criminal cases now go to plea deals, so it's pretty important.

Scalia, naturally, objected that this wasn't constitutional.  I know, I know -- only poor people have bad lawyers.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on April 05, 2012, 07:33:23 PM
Gingrich's 'think tank' files for bankruptcy (http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/05/news/economy/gingrich-group-bankruptcy/index.htm?hpt=hp_t3).

That's funny all by itself for multiple reasons.  The financial information in the filing is even funnier.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on April 09, 2012, 10:22:39 AM
"Published tuition and fees at public two-year colleges increased by 44.8 percent above the inflation rate during the last decade, while average fulltime faculty salaries at these institutions declined by 2.5 percent in real terms".

:eyeroll:

AAUP faculty salary data report (http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/04/09/aaup-releases-faculty-salary-data#ixzz1rXzhwEqt).

The 80s were the worst (go figure), but oy.


Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on April 14, 2012, 10:00:46 AM
Bought this at the show, for $8.  It's a 1944 newspaper.  I bagged about three dozen of these for the show, and at some point I stopped reading the headlines, but one of my clerks helpfully noticed that this one has an extra-awesome banner at the top.



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Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 14, 2012, 11:16:17 AM
:hmm:
Of course the Decepticons would back the Axis. Seriously, check that stack for more alternate-universe news.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on April 14, 2012, 04:06:50 PM
Alas, it turns out that by "robots" they just mean self-guided surface-to-surface missiles, which were, after all, a frightening new development.  But if I frame it, it remains awesome.


Meanwhile, this brouhaha, locally (http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20120414/NEWS01/304140022/Killer-15-could-go-free-age-21?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7C%7Cp).

The basic:  A 15-year-old was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to juvie until he's 21.  Then a judge (the same judge, if he's still on the bench) will decide whether or not to send him to prison.  This has been a wildly unpopular decision.

The actual events:  When this kid was 13, he was in a gang.  His father brought him into the gang, and he and some other kids were used to carry drugs, etc.  Nothing new.  Then the gang decided to kidnap the girlfriend of a local pot grower, and the father took the kid along.  Eight people were in on the kidnapping.

They got the woman into the trunk of a car, and then -- for reasons that remain unknown -- the father got a rifle and shot her five times, killing her.  Everyone involved was up for Murder One because it's felony homicide.

The reporting on this has been Gannett-terrible.  I have no idea if this kid is the only one who's gone to trial so far, or what.  A lot of the local public wants all eight to go to prison for life.  Seriously, this kid was 13 and brought along by his father, and you want him to spend sixty years in prison?  It was the DA's office that brought in psych experts to testify that the kid can be rehabilitated, for crying out loud.

His attorneys have not helped.  Stereotypes are stereotypes, and let's just say that no one has gone to much effort to make this kid not look like a gangbanger from CSI: Wherever.  But come on.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on April 24, 2012, 07:33:52 PM
Must've been awkward making the posters for this (http://www.orlandopredators.com/news/predators-announce-first-ever-child-abuse-prevention-night-246.php).
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on April 24, 2012, 08:12:20 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on April 24, 2012, 08:29:55 PM
The fact that the newsletter is called "Underneath The Uniform" is the best/worst part.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on April 24, 2012, 08:32:25 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on April 27, 2012, 06:53:08 AM
Man finds himself on missing-children website (http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/26/us/pennsylvania-missing-mystery/index.html).

Headline aside, this story is still six kinds of crazy.

Guy's name is Steve Carter.  Fair enough.  Turns out his birth name was Marx Panama Moriarty Barnes.  Wow.  His mother apparently kidnapped him and dropped him off at an orphanage under the name Tenzin Amea.

The best part might be that he recognized himself from an age-progression image of himself as a teenager . . . which was made from a photo of him as an infant.  I guess age-progression software has gotten even better than I thought.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 01, 2012, 06:39:45 AM
British government ruled that Rupert Murdoch is officially a dick and should not be allowed to run a corporation.

Seriously, that's the ruling.  They didn't say "dick", of course; they said he's not "a fit and proper person".

Still hilarious.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on May 01, 2012, 04:36:25 PM
finally caught the fucker. positive DNA and everything. i hope they invoke the death penalty on this one. not a redeeming quality about this sack of meat. (http://www.8newsnow.com/story/18001713/double-murder-suspect-in-court-on-abuse-charge)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 05, 2012, 06:58:07 AM
Can we please stop calling terrorist leaders "masterminds" if their plans were not brilliant?  How about "organizer"?  Why not "middle manager"?

9/11 was a pretty bad damned plan that succeeded because they got lucky and we weren't playing well.  Even they didn't expect it to work.

I understand that we tend to aggrandize the enemy to excuse our failures and exaggerate our victories over them, but it's pathetic and childish.  9/11 was not their victory nearly so much as our screw-up.  It was not a brilliant terrorist plan.  Real supervillains don't even get into the newspapers.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 09, 2012, 04:11:04 PM
Well it's about fucking time. (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57431122-503544/obama-backs-same-sex-marriage/)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 09, 2012, 04:12:26 PM
Actually, what that headline probably should read is "Obama has determined that it is politically expedient to back same-sex marriage", since that's effectively what he's doing.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2012, 04:32:52 PM
When was the last time we had a Democrat who didn't over-compromise?  FDR?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 09, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
When was the last time we had a Democrat politician who didn't over-compromise?  FDR?

FTFY.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Oh, no . . . no . . . there are definitely right-wingers who don't compromise enough.

Amusingly, Dick Lugar went from Well, We're All Republicans to These Crazy Tea Party Fucks Will Ruin Indiana, If Not The Country in about 90 minutes.  I never thought he was THAT centrist, but he clearly knows the score.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 09, 2012, 04:37:39 PM
I just wanted to say "Dick Lugar".

That is all.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2012, 04:51:20 PM
It's almost surprising how many Republican Congressmen are Dicks.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 09, 2012, 04:54:42 PM
A "Dick Lugar" sounds like something for which one would need a moist towelette.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2012, 05:01:51 PM
I never really liked the thought of a Dick Armey, either.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 09, 2012, 05:03:12 PM
I never really liked the thought of a Dick Armey, either.

It's a term used to describe his biggest, most rigid supporters.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 09, 2012, 05:17:43 PM
I was just impressed that the iconic Nazi 9mm automatic was defeated by a pale-skinned underground dwelling cannibal.

which reminds me: FLASH WOLFENSTEIN PEOPLE. FLASH. WOLFENSTEIN.

http://wolfenstein.bethsoft.com/game_NA.php

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 09, 2012, 06:46:15 PM
Boy am I rusty at that game...
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 09, 2012, 07:59:19 PM
A "Dick Lugar" sounds like something for which one would need a moist towelette.

It makes me think of Luger or someone who competes in the Luge.  So thinking of someone on a penis shaped sled is the image I get.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2012, 08:28:14 PM
I've seen a few articles about the orangutans using iPads, but this Washington Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/orangutans-at-miamis-jungle-island-use-ipads-to-communicate-other-zoos-also-using-computers/2012/05/09/gIQAR1tNCU_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop) is the best one I've seen.

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“Our young ones pick up on it. They understand it. It’s like, 'Oh I get this.' Our two older ones, they just are not interested. I think they just figure, ‘I’ve gotten along just fine in this world without this communication-skill here and the iPad, and I don’t need a computer.'”

:huh:


They use the iPads as part of their enrichment program for the orangs.  The orangs can't get out and about as much as they probably should, so instead they spend a lot of time playing computer games and communicating with each other electronically.  Sounds familiar.

I guess uplift isn't progressing so much through genetic engineering as gadgets.  In SF, it was a toss-up, but electronics seems to be winning.  Less He Who Shapes and more Up!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Min on May 10, 2012, 07:47:26 AM
finally caught the fucker. positive DNA and everything. i hope they invoke the death penalty on this one. not a redeeming quality about this sack of meat. (http://www.8newsnow.com/story/18001713/double-murder-suspect-in-court-on-abuse-charge)

Glad they got him.  Do they know anything about motive?  In reading about the story originally, it reminded me of the Harvey murders that happened in my neighborhood a few years ago.  A couple of assholes killed a husband and mother and two small girls.  Everyone was saying it was so brutal that it had to be personal, but it turned out that the jerks were just wacked out on drugs.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on May 10, 2012, 07:49:53 AM
I've seen a few articles about the orangutans using iPads, but this Washington Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/orangutans-at-miamis-jungle-island-use-ipads-to-communicate-other-zoos-also-using-computers/2012/05/09/gIQAR1tNCU_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop) is the best one I've seen.

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“Our young ones pick up on it. They understand it. It’s like, 'Oh I get this.' Our two older ones, they just are not interested. I think they just figure, ‘I’ve gotten along just fine in this world without this communication-skill here and the iPad, and I don’t need a computer.'”

:huh:


They use the iPads as part of their enrichment program for the orangs.  The orangs can't get out and about as much as they probably should, so instead they spend a lot of time playing computer games and communicating with each other electronically.  Sounds familiar.

I guess uplift isn't progressing so much through genetic engineering as gadgets.  In SF, it was a toss-up, but electronics seems to be winning.  Less He Who Shapes and more Up!

Great. Now when I go to the zoo to see the orangutans, they'll be huddled in the corner, hunched over their smart phones.

Well it's about fucking time. (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57431122-503544/obama-backs-same-sex-marriage/)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/600048/original.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 10, 2012, 08:26:45 AM
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Everyone was saying it was so brutal that it had to be personal, but it turned out that the jerks were just wacked out on drugs.

Yeah, the general public has a lot of misconceptions about things like psychotic murder.  It's easy to blame film and TV, but frankly it's mostly because things like psychotic murder are well outside most people's experience.  Not entirely a bad thing.  But it does complicate the jury system.

If you're a 'normal' person but have had a psychotic break, and suddenly killing someone brutally seems like a good idea, a perfect stranger can easily absorb a personal grudge you have against your mother.  Once you snap, the rules change.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on May 11, 2012, 05:23:53 PM
I was just impressed that the iconic Nazi 9mm automatic was defeated by a pale-skinned underground dwelling cannibal.

which reminds me: FLASH WOLFENSTEIN PEOPLE. FLASH. WOLFENSTEIN.

http://wolfenstein.bethsoft.com/game_NA.php


OMG THAT'S SO AWESOME

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on May 11, 2012, 05:24:50 PM
It's almost surprising how many Republican Congressmen are Dicks.

One of our congressmen is named Norm Dix.  :whatever:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 11, 2012, 05:26:36 PM
Is his middle name Al?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: feffer on May 11, 2012, 05:26:42 PM
It's actually Norm Dicks, and that's who the article was talking about.  He's a D, though.

Edit: wait, did we talk about that article here?  The one where the headline originally said "With Dicks in, all six Washington congressional Democrats favor repeal of gay-marriage ban"?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on May 11, 2012, 05:34:44 PM
GAH  :redface:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 11, 2012, 05:53:02 PM
Hopefully he doesn't pull out with his support of the repealing.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: TFJ on May 11, 2012, 05:53:38 PM
is his wesbite:

Dicks  eNorm.us

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: TFJ on May 11, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
:eek: *hmof*, you NEED to get that domain name: eNorm.us

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 11, 2012, 05:56:50 PM
:eek: *hmof*, you NEED to get that domain name: eNorm.us

Concur!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 11, 2012, 05:58:25 PM
Hey, along them thar lines Cookieface should get cookiep.us

Heh, for a gross out site bucketsofp.us
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 11, 2012, 07:39:18 PM
I only have one dick. Understandable if you're confused though ... it's fast.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 12, 2012, 11:10:02 AM
I will state the obvious again:  Any corporation that is Too Big To Fail is necessarily a national security risk.


I'd also like to point out that traditional 'market forces' theories arose before anyone could conceive of a tiny number of individuals making the kinds of huge and rapid financial transactions that are possible now.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 21, 2012, 09:53:36 AM
I hate Facebook, and I mean I really and literally think it is detrimental to the human species, but I hate this even more:

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/2012/05/21/markets/facebook-stock/chart_ws_stock_facebookinc_201252195650.top.png)

Not that their stock price went down, but this use of lies when the 'news' media presents math to the public.  If the chart doesn't show scale, it's propaganda.  Period. 

That chart goes all the way down to zero.  Showing less than 15% of it exaggerates the variation.  That graph clearly makes it appear that the value went from Kind Of A Lot to Almost Nothing.  Yes, people can read the numbers on the right, and, yes, a lot of people can understand what this graph actually means.  But studies prove that to most people this kind of depiction still has a lasting visceral effect based on primary recognition, and in any case it's sensationalism.

If you're presenting graphs all the time to experts who are only interested in the variation, that's fine.  But in the mainstream media, this is just a lie.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 21, 2012, 05:40:50 PM
Most companies go down the first year after their IPO and large ones like Fbook with tons of equity tied up in the founders, employees, etc. one would expect quite a bit of divesting.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 23, 2012, 06:01:32 PM
LA banned plastic shopping bags.

I know Hawaii did -- or maybe just some of the islands have?  But LA has about three times the population of the Hawaiian islands combined, and a lot more plastic bags.

The bag manufacturers should have just pushed biodegradable plastic bags.  But maybe the bag distributors plan to start charging more for paper bags.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 23, 2012, 06:05:48 PM
I will be dipped in shit. That's amazing! LA, you suck slightly less today! Of course, this means down in Orange County they'll declare a Freedom Plastic Grocery Bags Day and give every store that offers them a medal.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 23, 2012, 06:09:15 PM
Probably.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on May 23, 2012, 06:22:23 PM
I reuse the plastic bags for emptying the cats' litter boxes. I guess I can drag each litter box outside and empty directly into the trash barrel, but that barrel already reeks from spills.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 23, 2012, 09:09:55 PM
Yeah, I reuse plastic bags a lot, including for cat poop.  But I save more than I use.  It gets out of hand if I'm not careful.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on May 24, 2012, 11:48:59 AM
awesome! (http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/18597572/2012/05/22/marvel-comics-creates-superhero-in-honor-of-nh-boy)

marvel comics just shot way up in my book.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 24, 2012, 12:12:28 PM
That's great!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on June 29, 2012, 02:07:13 PM
interesting article . . .

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/201207/amber-waves-of-green-jon-ronson-gq-july-2012?printable=true
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 29, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
:bummed:

 
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: feffer on June 29, 2012, 02:51:12 PM
That richest guy sounds like a nut.  The pillow business in Nick's part is my job.  The third lady is... wow.  I'd be her business manager for $100k.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Talix on June 29, 2012, 04:06:23 PM
I admit, I was surprised at how much closer I am to the bottom than to the top.  I guess I don't really grasp how rich the ultra-rich actually are.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 29, 2012, 04:11:22 PM
The ultra-rich are very different.  Look at this math:

One billion dollars = $1,000,000,000

If your NET pay is $50,000 a year . . . it would take you 20,000 YEARS of not spending a single penny to save up a billion dollars.


The billionaire dude, Wayne, is exactly like a lot of wealthy people I know:  Atomic, by which I mean indivisible -- almost completely emotionally self-sufficient.  They decide for themselves what's right and wrong, mostly just based on what feels right to them, and while they think less of people who disagree, no disagreement will shake their faith.  Their strength is as the strength of ten because their hearts are pure, and that's how they got to be rich. 

It's not that they necessarily love money but that they refuse to let other people tell them how to live, and having lots of money is how you get to run your own life.  They make good entrepreneurs because they don't have enough doubt to shy away from a risk or to regret failures enough to slow down.  It's not hard work that made him rich but fearlessness.

What Wayne is mad at is that he feels like as long as he's not stabbing or robbing people, and as long as he's not a hypocrite, then no one has any right to criticize him.  He only puts value in his own opinion and he doesn't put up with people attacking it.  The hypocrisy angle is a big deal to them.

Maurose, the guy at the article's bottom end, makes more per hour, take-home, than I do.  :nonplused:    But he has a worse job and lives in a far more expensive area.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 29, 2012, 04:15:10 PM
-- almost completely emotionally self-sufficient.  They decide for themselves what's right and wrong, mostly just based on what feels right to them, and while they think less of people who disagree, no disagreement will shake their faith.  Their strength is as the strength of ten because their hearts are pure, and that's how they got to be rich. 

Sociopaths, then, basically. :hmm:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on June 29, 2012, 04:27:41 PM
Yes, pretty much.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 29, 2012, 05:13:33 PM
Yes, in a sense, very much so.  But not in the way where they have a keen and insightful comprehension of other people's behavioral mechanics.  Although often they will form very strong opinions about how and why other people behave . . . .

I also have known wealthy people who are simply obsessed with money.  Frankly, those people are less pleasant.

One of the many weird things about end-in-itself capitalism, and I've voiced this opinion before, is that while it's sort of a darwinian meritocracy, the characteristics that qualify as 'merit' in this system are often not what most people think they are.  You can be very smart, good with money, hard-working, creative, talented, etc, and statistically you won't get rich.  Most people who do amass a lot of money are either lucky or pathological (in the sense of being innately compulsive about it), or both.

Of course, that doesn't mean that if you do become rich, you're necessarily not smart, hard-working, etc.  But our culture is as if it were built around the notion that you have to be handsome to be able to run fast.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 29, 2012, 10:14:49 PM
Yeah. Well. One of two things: either they're lucky, or they inherited it. Seriously, as you said, plenty of talented people with the appropriate drive and ruthlessness or whatever, and they don't get to be in the 1% because they're not lucky and they had the wrong parents.

And all of them think they acquired their wealth because of their own merits, which is the most utter bullshit since the Divine Right of Kings.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 30, 2012, 05:32:24 AM
Well . . . inheritance mostly is luck, unless something occurs before birth that we don't know about.  But, heck, being born here and not in Somalia is luck, too.


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And all of them think they acquired their wealth because of their own merits, which is the most utter bullshit since the Divine Right of Kings.

Once you admit that anything else is true, it gets harder to argue that it's 100% Your Money and shouldn't be taxed, etc.  Our culture largely revolves around the flight from personal responsibility, loud talk of bootstraps or no.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 03, 2012, 04:44:03 PM
i hate my state sometimes. (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/03/politics/nevada-mormons/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3)

you'd think that idiocy would eventually lead to some sort of self genocide. people are blinded by faith.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 22, 2012, 09:11:29 AM
They took the Paterno statue down.

I hadn't seen photos of it before.  They probably shouldn't have put it up.  It looked ridiculous.  Looked like he was escaping from football players by hailing a cab. 

More to the point, any time you put a statue on a college campus, you have to consider what drunken college students will do with it.  Paternobot was at ground level, and I don't think they considered the students.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on July 22, 2012, 10:51:50 AM
I'm pretty sure they never really consider the students.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2012, 04:35:12 PM
What the FUCK (http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/219397/2/Jenn-Gibbons-rowing-around-Lake-Michigan-speaks-out-after-sexual-assault).

Young woman from Chicago decides to row her way around Lake Michigan to raise money for fighting breast cancer.  Fine.  She gets about halfway around the lake, and some guy boards the boat during the night to sexually assault her.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on July 24, 2012, 04:49:04 PM
I think you got the wrong thread. I really did not need to look at that. Now I'm feeling all stabby.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2012, 04:50:15 PM
"I don't like it" seemed too trivial.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hedaira on July 24, 2012, 05:27:51 PM
What the hell was she doing there alone during the small hours? That was a bad idea on her part. I also want to know if they're watering down rape by calling it sexual assault. That's not okay. Rape is rape. An ugly word for an ugly act regardless of what gender it is perpetrated upon.

It's sad that I - a known and totally epic badass AMIRITE - have to think about my safety when going to the Kroger down the road from my place, or jogging in my neighborhood after 9PM and before 7AM, but that's the reality of it. It's not because the area is superbad, but that shit happens frequently and the only reason I need to be careful is solely because I'm a woman.

I hope they find the guy and pull his dick out his nose via his ass.

 :soapbox:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2012, 05:44:48 PM
I gather that she was living on the boat (presumably not a typical rowboat) during her fundraiser.  Reports suggest suspicions that this guy saw her online, went to an event she spoke at, and then waited until he could catch her alone.

I'm a paranoid person, and I think it's a sensible way to be, but I do think it's sad to think that it's a necessary way to be.  For all I know, though, she has a .357 Magnum on the boat and just got taken by surprise, or something.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on July 24, 2012, 07:21:01 PM
That really pisses me off.  And I guess I DID need this to remind me that too many people are scum.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 24, 2012, 07:27:48 PM
awesome, especially the part where he said he didn't want the media alerted. (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21147699#ixzz21a3jjHtw)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hedaira on July 24, 2012, 07:32:46 PM
Peeps be Tweetin.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
Nice.  I haven't really been a huge fan of anything he's done after Equilibrium, but I've been rooting for him.  He seems a little tense, but he seems like a good guy.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on July 24, 2012, 08:05:15 PM
I saw him in Treasure Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Island_%281990_film%29) a few weeks ago. I didn't realize he was only like 16 years old until I started watching it. When I saw what year it was made, I had one of those "oh shit, I'm old" moments.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2012, 08:27:52 PM
What the . . . I never heard of that production before.  :trance:

Saw him in Empire of the Sun but not Newsies or Swing Kids.  Then not much until American Psycho.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 24, 2012, 09:18:47 PM
oh, SNAP!

(http://i.imgur.com/iHFPD.png)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 27, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
The VP of PR for Chick-Fil-A died.  Awkward timing.  Almost suspiciously awkward timing.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on July 27, 2012, 10:53:36 PM
oops
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on July 30, 2012, 03:50:27 PM
oops

Meaning, you didn't mean to do it?  Like, it was an accident?  That could definitely affect how you're eventually charged.


DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on July 30, 2012, 04:16:00 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on July 30, 2012, 10:44:44 PM
 :batteyes:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 31, 2012, 06:44:00 AM
He probably choked on a gay chicken sandwich.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on July 31, 2012, 06:18:40 PM
He probably choked ... a gay chicken...

Sorry.  This is how I read your post.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 31, 2012, 07:49:12 PM
No need to apologize.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on August 03, 2012, 01:50:09 AM
fantastic . . . one small step . . . one giant step . . .  (http://www.futureoftech.msnbc.msn.com/technology/futureoftech/17-year-old-girl-builds-artificial-brain-detect-breast-cancer-908308)

if kids can do this these days, imagine what they'll be able to do after years of research. i'm jealous and impressed.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 07, 2012, 07:16:05 AM
Once again, white supremacists are their own best counter-argument.  I've always thought that if you're a racial supremacist who advocates war against other races, you really aren't show much conviction.  I mean, if your race is so supreme, you shouldn't need to fight other races.

Anyway, yet again, the moron holy warrior attacked people who had nothing to do with anything he had any reason to worry about.  What a stupid dick.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: eldiem on August 13, 2012, 03:50:22 PM
This is lovely.

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/09/walsh_muslims_are_trying_to_kill_americans/

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“I’m looking for some godly men and women in the Senate, in the Congress, who will stand in the face of the danger of Islam in America without political correctness,” the man said.  “Islam is not the peaceful, loving religion we hear about.”

The line was met with applause.

I'm all for freedom of speech, but this man is a government official and I am just livid that he has a job. And he's from my state. Not my district, though I sort of wish it was so I could make sure everyone I know was aware of the hateful things he says. I guess I can still do that.

I mean, he's basically soliciting for an anti-Islam army, right? And I'm sure there are people who argue that this (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/08/12/man-charged-with-firing-pellet-rifle-at-morton-grove-mosque/) had nothing to do with Walsh's remarks, but I have my doubts, shockingly. At what point is the Tea Party going to be recognized as a terrorist organization?

The Catholics now have two to call their own, this asshole plus Paul Ryan. At least they seem somewhat embarrassed by Ryan, haven't seen any official word on Walsh. Theirs is not the Catholicism in which I was raised.

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on August 13, 2012, 07:32:26 PM
i wonder what religion the people who shot the sikhs last week were?

it seems throughout recent history right wing xtians have committed more crimes in the name of religion than any other sect. i understand there's still a lot of pain about 9/11, but if we add up the number of deaths from oklahoma, waco and other miscellaneous shootings, bombing, etc. i'm sure the total kill count for 'merican xtians would be much higher. it seems this will never end as the only answer is educating people on the differences of radical religious nuts and people who practice the religion based on it's teachings. no one who wants to kill someone else wants to take the time to learn why.

if he's speaking of muslims on their home land trying to kill american soldiers, well, it is war.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 14, 2012, 12:02:53 PM
Never mind that a lot of Americans are Muslim.  Including American soldiers. 

Derp is as derp does.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 20, 2012, 05:46:42 PM
You want derp?  Here's some derp:  Cop threatened by free tickets (http://www.calgaryherald.com/Nose+Hill+Park+confrontation+makes+visitors+feel+unsafe/7050028/story.html).

The Calgary Stampede is some kind of sports thing.  And these were Canadians engaged in a marketing promotion, giving away free tickets, so I tend to assume they were quite polite.  And this guy wishes he could have defended himself with his gun.

Yes, we screen our police officers well.  Although he was a cop in Kalamazoo, which, as you can tell from the name, is a slightly silly place.  And for a $50 fee at the border, this guy could have carried a shotgun openly in the park.  In case, you know, any nice people approached him openly in broad daylight in a public place.

Lord Jesus Christ forbid!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on August 23, 2012, 11:50:57 AM
when will we start holding police accountable for their fuck ups?

http://www.10news.com/news/31374150/detail.html

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 23, 2012, 12:23:08 PM
I hold them accountable now.  But that doesn't really matter very much to the old boys network.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 23, 2012, 02:00:59 PM
They're not trained properly nowadays.  Overmilitarized and scared out of their minds.  It's unbelievable how often they warn them that THEY COULD BE KILLED AT ANY MOMENT.  Anyone 12' from you holding a screwdriver could reach you and kill you in under two seconds.  Hell, it's likely!  Better to do some paperwork and face a review than get shot, right?

Seriously, cops I know, they get told like once a month that they could get killed at any moment, that they're outgunned, that their body armor is no good if they get shot in the face, etc.  They get training videos showing 'detention entry teams' that look like SWAT rugby teams rushing a prison cell to immobilize one cranky convict who might have a sharpened toothbrush.

And then they're taught to have their guns out, ready to shoot, shoot to kill, empty the magazine to be sure.  And to use the screamy 'command voice' that civilians can't even fucking understand.  You get three or more cops together at the scene, and they're all bellowing incomprehensibly at a suspect who doesn't even understand what's going on but who has just seconds to either comply with mysterious orders or be considered dangerous.

Frankly, it's a miracle they don't shoot more people.  Or drop dead of heart attacks.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 23, 2012, 02:15:29 PM
Mostly they are told that everyone that's not them is the enemy and that they are always right even when they are not right, in those cases they are even MORE right.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on August 23, 2012, 09:52:58 PM
Don't even get me started about the Seattle PD. Even the Feds can't get them to behave.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 25, 2012, 11:49:20 AM
Empire State Building shooting:  Suspect shot one person, cops shot ten (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/25/justice/new-york-empire-state-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1).

They shot the perp (and killed him) and also wounded nine innocent bystanders.

[no comment]
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on August 25, 2012, 04:24:52 PM
Classic.

What were we saying recently about police becoming more militarized and paranoid?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 25, 2012, 05:44:31 PM
Seriously, tasers are pretty shitty, but cops DO need a non-lethal trump card.

Hostage situations are starting to look highly preferable to urgent police intervention, though.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 07, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
You may remember a story from a couple of years ago about a jackass who sold glasses online -- and then intentionally screwed customers over . . . and then threatened and abused them when they called to complain.  His business concept was that the customers would go complain online all over the place in droves, and that would push him higher in Google searches and improve his business.

Which it did, stupidly enough, and he made millions of dollars.

But . . . comeuppance (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57508100/online-seller-gets-4-years-for-rape-murder-threats/)!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on September 07, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
eastern european mobster mentality
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 07, 2012, 10:50:29 AM
Yeah, UTTERLY.  The interview with him in the NYT in 2010 was incredibly revealing.  Typical mobster sociopath -- if I'm not taking care of you, you're less than human and I deserve everything I can take from you, because that's just life.

Guy honestly does not understand any other viewpoint.  His feeling is that it doesn't matter if someone else is upset -- unless they can hurt him or his family.  If you have no juice, you have no relevance.  And he's such a narcissist that he couldn't resist bragging about how brilliant his lifeplan is.

Now he at least realizes he shouldn't have bragged about it.  BUT you can be pretty sure he'll be bragging about it in prison, just the same.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 07, 2012, 10:53:42 AM
This is what they think of you(r parents) (http://youtu.be/GBhdXfCdaA8)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 07, 2012, 10:54:10 AM
And you know? Just copy and paste axe's last post, because all of that applies to Paul Ryan, too
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on September 07, 2012, 11:41:10 AM
i wish i could listen to it. someone stole my headphones from my desk last night.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 07, 2012, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: tumblr commenter
Paul Ryan (yr P90X, supersonic marathon speedrunner, mountainhoppin’ VP candidate) talks to a Rotary Club about cutting Social Security and Medicar benefits, refers to them as “entitlement programs.”

A 71-year-old working-class retiree gets angry, and yells that it’s not entitlement, as he’s paid into those programs out of his wages for 50 years.

Cops not only arrest the guy, but cuff him and forcibly wrestle him to the ground as he yelps that he has a broken shoulder.

Ryan doesn’t stop them. Ryan doesn’t even stay respectfully quiet. Ryan cracks a joke: “I hope he’s taken his blood pressure medication.”
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on September 07, 2012, 12:17:14 PM
ryan's a dick

if you look at him anatomically you can see the sloped forehead, the low brow/hairline and the inset, small eyes. he obviously hasn't evolved beyond cromag.

him need mate, must kill and pummel to prove superiority



*oops, i meant anatomically
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on September 07, 2012, 12:20:22 PM
A marathon running friend of mine was GOING OFF about how Ryan is a liar about his running prowess.  I am coming to believe if he's talking he's lying.  And that's over and above the normal politician lying.  It's like his thing.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 07, 2012, 12:25:03 PM
Can't wait for the speech where he talks about spending Thanksgiving night with Stevie Ray Vaughan after the bar closed.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: feffer on September 07, 2012, 12:27:06 PM
:spittake:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: TFJ on September 07, 2012, 12:34:04 PM
dude. a while back i almost said : Obama came to Charlottesville and i didn't see hide nor hair of You-Know-Who
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 20, 2012, 09:31:36 AM
Headline:  How to wait in an iPhone 5 line

I can do this one.  FIRST, start two weeks from now.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on October 02, 2012, 03:43:31 PM
http://www.newser.com/story/154812/police-chief-quits-leaving-just-dog-in-the-force.html
Commit small crimes, but bring large dog biscuits.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2012, 06:07:26 PM
Feds are suing Wells Fargo for mortgage fraud.  ABOUT TIME.  But it's just over issuing bad mortgages to FHA buyers and covering up how bad the loans were, which cost the feds about $200 million. 

Tip of the iceberg.  Meanwhile, two other large banks have already agreed to settle, paying the feds around $350 million.  And yet most people blame the homeowners for our nationwide mortgage disaster.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 09, 2012, 06:12:27 PM
too big to fail
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2012, 07:34:42 PM
Anyone who doesn't realize that Too Big To Fail necessarily means Threat To National Security does not belong in government.

Deregulation is literally over a thousand times more dangerous to us than terrorism has been as yet.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 09, 2012, 09:13:02 PM
there's a lot of people in government who don't belong there.

unfortunately, people who have money can buy those people and put them there.

our own government can be more dangerous to us than terrorism is.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2012, 09:33:05 PM
Well, during roughly the last ten years, yes, clearly.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 19, 2012, 08:54:44 PM
this almost went in, "things making me happy" or "things i didn't expect to see today".

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/romney-obama-state-president.html.csp

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 19, 2012, 09:19:25 PM
Good overall, for sure.  But

Quote
But it was Romney’s singular role in rescuing Utah’s organization of the 2002 Olympics from a cesspool of scandal, and his oversight of the most successful Winter Games on record, that make him the Beehive State’s favorite adopted son. After all, Romney managed to save the state from ignominy

:spittake:  Maybe this is what they think in Utah.  Most people elsewhere think Mitt kept the corruption and nearly tanked the whole fucking thing.  I've heard it mentioned at least three or four times by mainstream political commentators as one of his black marks, and I've hardly listened to the press this season.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2012, 10:44:27 AM
Tagg Romney owns voting machines in crucial swing state Ohio (http://freakoutnation.blogspot.com/2012/10/on-tagg-romneys-voting-machines-i-hope.html)

Shocking.  Shocking!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hisey on October 22, 2012, 12:50:18 PM
See, I knew it was time to move back to Florida.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2012, 01:06:24 PM
:rollin:

That won't help with this particular issue.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2012, 09:27:44 PM
Italy convicts scientists for not predicting earthquake (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/10/22/italy-earthquake-scientists-trial.html).

Seven seismologists and geologists were convicted of manslaughter for not predicting that there would be a bad earthquake.  Six years in prison.  I hope there's an appeal.

You couldn't predict with adequate certainty that the earth would quake . . . and yet it moves.  Stay classy, Italy.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 22, 2012, 10:10:22 PM
Well that does it. I'm never talking to the media again.

What we need in science is omertá!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on October 23, 2012, 11:20:57 AM
 :hmm: That would sort of stop the "publish or perish" model, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2012, 01:56:52 PM
Apparently the top three government science advisors over there have now resigned in protest, and one of them said it was the end of scientists giving advice to the government.

The Pope must be crapping himself.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hedaira on October 23, 2012, 02:00:14 PM
The Pope is a former Nazi youth (oh fucking PLEASE with the "he was forced into it") who protects institutionalized child rape. Pretty sure rational decision making on anything scientific isn't even in his vocabulary.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2012, 02:25:13 PM
Yeah, he's more a throwback to the burning-at-the-stake sort.  Is what I meant.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2012, 04:57:20 PM
Romney team connected to voting machines in Colorado, too (http://www.salon.com/2012/10/23/romney_linked_voting_machine_company_to_count_votes_in_ohio/).

It's all madness.  You'd think there'd be some useful regulation concerning elections.  Well, if you were optimistic.

Quote
Voting machine provider Hart Intercivic will be counting the votes in various counties in the crucial swing states of Ohio and Colorado and elsewhere throughout the country [...] even though a study commissioned by the state of Ohio has labeled its voting system a “failure” when it comes to protecting the integrity of elections.

What?  It's crap?  I thought so.  Well, might as well just keep using it.

Meanwhile, the GOP gets bent out of shape over ACORN and voter IDs, all while throwing out tens of thousands of Democrat registrations.  (Hello, Florida and Wisconsin!)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hisey on October 24, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
What can we do? Seriously. I'm serious. This is out of control.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 24, 2012, 01:20:54 PM
It's a mess. I caught part of a show on PBS the other night about how messed up it is, called Electoral Dysfunction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMl0MHFGhE8) {trailer}

No matter the results of this election, I feel pretty certain the process is going to be called into question.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on October 24, 2012, 02:07:45 PM
As long as there is power and money, ne'erdowells will take control because they care about the power and the money.  There is no hope, and anyway the Vogons will destroy us all anyway.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 24, 2012, 02:42:21 PM
The real danger is that the religious fanatics will get control.  That wouldn't be good for any of the current real power players.  But elections have been skewed since forever.  It's not good, but it's not new.

Adequate regulation would go a long way toward fixing it.  But there's a reason why we don't get taken too seriously when we complain about other countries' elections not being open or honest enough.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 24, 2012, 08:53:59 PM
yet, employees of mcdonald's cant enter the monopoly game.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 24, 2012, 09:37:48 PM
If Burger King were clever, it would buy McDonald's cash in boatloads and give it to its employees as a bonus during Monopoly season, and then publicize how Burger King employees were winning all the Monopoly prizes.

I'm not sure how it would help Burger King, but it would ingratiate Burger King to me, and they should crave my approval.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on October 25, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
DUNK THE VOTE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-WPDmyQ4gM)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 25, 2012, 07:42:10 PM
Key & Peele  :thumbsup:

I'm constantly impressed by their writing, or their team's writing. Always fresh and thinking outside the box. The individual skits are not necessarily hilarious, but the overall quality is way above average.

Dubstep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kod1q39ddE)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on October 26, 2012, 12:46:31 AM
I've seen a couple of the sketches and liked them.  I don't really have the time to add another show to my watchlist though.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hedaira on October 26, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
Key & Peele  :thumbsup:

I'm constantly impressed by their writing, or their team's writing. Always fresh and thinking outside the box. The individual skits are not necessarily hilarious, but the overall quality is way above average.

Dubstep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kod1q39ddE)

 :lol: :detta:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 29, 2012, 10:24:54 AM
Awesome article about plankton, the South, and politics (http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/10/02/162163801/obama-s-secret-weapon-in-the-south-small-dead-but-still-kickin?ft=1&f=5500502).

I bet a lot of religious folks in the South would hate this for a variety of reasons.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 29, 2012, 11:01:17 AM
 :thumbsup: Pretty sound theory, IMO.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 29, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Awesome article about plankton, the South, and politics (http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/10/02/162163801/obama-s-secret-weapon-in-the-south-small-dead-but-still-kickin?ft=1&f=5500502).

I bet a lot of religious folks in the South would hate this for a variety of reasons.

Hahahah, this is awesome.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 31, 2012, 02:52:37 PM
Police can install cameras on (some) private property, without a warrant, to fish for illegal behavior (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/police-allowed-to-install-cameras-on-private-property-without-warrant/).

Basically, the court ruled you have a right to privacy on some private property but not others -- and the police, mysteriously, can go onto some kinds of private property to install cameras in the hopes of catching illegal activity.  Well, probably even if they want to film for other (official) reasons.

The basic principle is that the cops are allowed to automate activity that they could legally perform in person.  OK, this is a terrible principle to accept as a broad precedent, but we have a lot of judges who are not strong thinkers, and that's inevitable.  The precedent cited is that the courts have allowed the police to place a tracking device on your car without a warrant because a cop could just follow you, in person, without a warrant.  If you stop to think about it, that doesn't really make sense, since those are really not parallel.  But we can pretend that that's a reasonable ruling.

It's reasonable that you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy if, say, you're standing in an open field (private property or not) adjacent to a public road.  So if the police set up a camera on that adjacent public  property and pointed it toward the field . . . well, OK.  In fact, anyone could stand on that road and film you.  But that in no way logically extends to the police installing a camera on the private property itself.

Beyond that, if the basic principle is sound, well . . . as a private citizen, I could legally drive around behind a police car all day.  So I should be allowed to put a tracking device on the police car.  And I can legally stand outside the police station and heckle the police, as a protester.  So I should be allowed to duplicate that through automation.  And why should I be compelled to appear in court if my attorney can just bring an X10 and I can sit at home and still 'appear'? 

For that matter, let me send a Roomba to prison in my stead.  Seems equally parallel.  Or maybe this is an awfully stupid principle.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 31, 2012, 04:35:46 PM
you have 5 seconds to comply
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 31, 2012, 08:27:14 PM
you have 5 seconds to comply

:galm:

Dick, I'm very very disappointed.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 31, 2012, 08:33:01 PM
There's no way the Court is ever going to rule drone surveillance unconstitutional, so this is not really surprising. Disappointing, as usual, but not surprising.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 31, 2012, 08:38:33 PM
Drone surveillance is surveillance from public (and/or government controlled) territory, though.  Really not the same at all.

My understanding is that milliwave and sophisticated IR surveillance can't legally be used to watch you through the walls of your house from the street.  Maybe that's changed now, too.

The camera-is-a-cop argument is key to this particular sort of (specious) argument, though, and is totally spurious in cases like these for a whole bunch of reasons, though.  I mean, obviously the cops could not actually have a police officer stand in a field, somehow inconspicuously hidden from sight, to watch 24 hours a day, for weeks on end, in hopes of detecting criminal activity.  They couldn't afford to have cops do it in shifts, either.  Hell, most agencies couldn't hide cops performing that kind of surveillance.

Bullshit police state is bullshit.  This is the United States.  We at least deserve a better police state.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 02, 2012, 07:46:01 AM
Could it be argued that the airspace around your home is your property? I dunno, it seems like it to me. What altitude would it extend to? I dunno.

This issue is no where near being resolved. The courts keep making rulings, but it's a thorny issue - the public photography in general, regardless of police surveillance involvement.

Seattle's "Creepy" Cameraman (http://www.geekwire.com/2012/seattles-creepy-cameraman-pushes-limits-public-surveillance/)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 02, 2012, 07:49:59 AM
Yeah, but that's the thing:  By and large, I can set up a camera on my own property or on a public space and film whatever I can see.  If you have no curtains, and my camera in my house can film you, that's your problem.  I can't go over and set up a camera in your house, though.  The recent court ruling is about the police setting up their camera on your property.

The airspace thing, eh, my guess is the courts would consider it a curtilage issue.  You might get a hundred feet of airspace.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 02, 2012, 08:15:37 AM
That's where I was going with my drone comment. If the gov is allowed to place a drone in your airspace, even if it can't come in within 100 feet, it would still be able to photograph through windows and capture anything on your outside property, so in that regard it's similar, but not the same in that the drone is not going to sit there constantly, for days on end.

I understand the ruling, and disagree with it strongly. Just sayin', to make sure we're on the same page here.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 02, 2012, 09:12:54 AM
Fair enough, yeah.  Technically, the cops could put a drone outside your house and photograph you from a distance.  I'm not sure about up-close dronery.  The more I think about it, the less sure I am.  Cops routinely do stuff like walk up to a house and look in the windows.  They're on private property without a warrant, but it's casual observance.  I don't know what the limitations are.

Of course, they can photograph you with satellites and such, too, if they have the budget / federal cooperation.  But it's still not the same as installing a camera on your property or putting a tracking device on your car.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on November 02, 2012, 11:07:45 AM
(http://us9.memecdn.com/to-patronize-and-annoy_o_709490.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on November 02, 2012, 03:16:25 PM
Aircraft must maintain 500 feet AGL unless they have a clearance (i.e. to land).  Helicopters the limit is 250 feet.  This is for safety reasons. 

It's pretty much moot, because the optics in satellites can pretty much see you from LEO.  A drone with similar optics at 500 feet AGL would probably be able to see your individual organelles.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 02, 2012, 05:13:08 PM
Surveillance satellites have large cameras, though.  Declassified ones, anyway; I don't know if they have secret metamaterial whatnot up there.  But the stuff that can be carried even by a Predator drone isn't as sophisticated.  Those little tiny stealthy drones that police departments typically have don't have cameras anywhere near that good.  Not yet.

Drones and model planes don't have to stay as high as regular aircraft, though, I bet.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on November 02, 2012, 05:22:43 PM
I'm sure they don't.  As far as owning airspace, I'm pretty sure a homeowner probably has up to the roofline if even that.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 02, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Yeah, but, like I said, cops often walk onto private property to check things out, and without asking anyone for permission first.  I'm not sure they shouldn't be allowed to, but there should be some reasonable limits on that.  Hidden cameras on your property obviously /= reasonable limits.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 02, 2012, 05:28:23 PM
See this is why I think you should be able to buy SA-7s at Walmart. SECOND AMENDMENT, MOTHERFUCKERS! DON'T TREAD ON MY AIRSPACE
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 02, 2012, 05:30:15 PM
Quote
Those little tiny stealthy drones that police departments typically have don't have cameras anywhere near that good.  Not yet.

Don't they say something like the cheapest cellphone camera available today is better than the original digital cameras? So yeah, won't be long.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 02, 2012, 07:47:38 PM
The metamaterial stuff is what makes it freaky.  I first heard about them back when they were only theoretical, and I was using them in SF and such back then.  Now suddenly labs are actually making them.  I'm not sure I really expected that.

There are different types and different applications, but basically they allow for 'impossible' lenses that can bend light in ways normal lenses can't.  They make a mockery of things like 'focal length' and 'maximum possible resolution' and allow you to build a telephoto lens the thickness of a dime.

As far as I know, practical uses are still several years away, but classified uses . . . who knows.  Of course, you can do amazing things with software and distributed optics if you have sufficient processing power.  Five thousand cheap out-of-focus lenses spread over a comparatively large surface + massive computing = equivalent of large optic.  Think insect eye.

If you don't need images in real time, this is ideal for surveillance.  You record tons of data but only 'develop', say, one 'frame' every thirty seconds.  If something interesting turns up, you start developing the footage in that timeslice.  They can also do things like use spherical lenses and then deform the image, etc.  Eventually, they'll be able to fire a spinning subsonic projectile through an area and then develop decent low-speed video from what the projectile's cameras picked up and sent back.  By wire?  Broadcast?  I don't know what'll be realistic.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on November 02, 2012, 09:53:17 PM
But the stuff that can be carried even by a Predator drone isn't as sophisticated.

you're very wrong about this.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 03, 2012, 07:59:01 AM
:confused:  There are recent satellites with very sophisticated cameras that are the size of the hull of a Predator.  It's not like they don't bother miniaturizing stuff that's being lifted all the way to orbit.  A downgraded civilian spy satellite like GeoEye has a camera assembly too big for a drone, and those aren't the biggest cameras aimed down here.

That doesn't mean you can't get astonishing pictures from a drone.  The drone's a lot closer to what it's photographing, for starters, which helps you get better pictures.  I guess "sophisticated" is probably too ambiguous.  It's apples and oranges.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on November 03, 2012, 12:40:30 PM
you're probably right about that.

i've been to drone trailers and seen actual live feeds. it's astonishing the resolution they're capable of pulling off. at an altitude of 40K' they can tell the time on your watch. i think they top out around 65K' which is still close enough to see what nefarious acts you're up to.

it really shocked me.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 03, 2012, 07:41:58 PM
Yeah, it's freaky.  They probably have geosynchronous satellites now that can look down and tell if you're gay.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on November 04, 2012, 02:30:14 AM
okay

 :confused:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hedaira on November 04, 2012, 04:57:39 AM
Yeah, it's freaky.  They probably have geosynchronous satellites now that can look down and tell if you're gay.

 :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 04, 2012, 09:35:12 AM
Of course, the secret military X-band gaydar can also be used to steer some of our fruitier hurricanes.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: phyre on November 05, 2012, 02:55:29 PM
Johnny Walker for City Council (http://www.vpap.org/candidates/profile/home/215580)




Black or Red?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on November 07, 2012, 06:12:05 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/math.png)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2012, 09:28:13 AM
:lol:  Well, the vast majority of the pundits are medium-good at bullshit but useless at math, so . . . .
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: phyre on November 07, 2012, 10:06:33 AM
I dunno, Rove seemed like he knew a little math last night when he started challenging Fox's decision desk for calling Ohio for Obama. Excepting the fact that he was challenging them calling Ohio for Obama, he might have even sounded like he knew what he was talking about.

I mean, seriously. When even FOX NEWS calls Ohio for the Democrat; just sit the fuck down and shut up.

So everyone knows, I was watching on CNN, then switched to PBS, then when they started calling Ohio, switched to Fox for confirmation. Because with that result, Fox is going to be firm confirmation if they're calling it for Obama. After that I went to bed.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2012, 10:26:00 AM
The thing is, Rove probably had that argument about math prepared for him by a staffer three months ago.  He tends to cover his bases.  With a thick layer of bullshit.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2012, 07:31:21 PM
Incidentally, although it wasn't actually one of the most important issues of the day, I was really happy about this outcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2012/11/07/when-even-a-billionaire-cant-buy-a-state-law/).

Smarmy billionaire twit spent about $35 million to try to convince voters to let him keep a monopoly that hurts the state economy.  Asshole.  He allegedly stands to lose about $24 million a year (but still make $36 million a year) . . . starting several years from now . . . assuming he's even still alive by then.

Next election, we need a proposal to strip his entire family of their money and clothes and exile them to Canada by catapult.  Canada doesn't want them, but by my calculations the catapult can't clear the lake, anyway.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 07, 2012, 07:53:59 PM
Are privately funded bridges very common? I've never heard of such. I guess the state pays for the highway leading to it? What a deal.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2012, 08:55:31 PM
Oh, it's an insane story.  There was a link in that article to this one, which has the history of the bridge (http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2012/01/12/why-one-rich-man-shouldnt-own-an-international-bridge/) and a bunch of other insanity about it.

Even just reading Page One of that makes the mind boggle.  And it's a good example of how wealthy private interests (rich people and corporations) jeopardize US national security far more than any lame foreign cult does. 

The government takes private homes all the time to build airports and justifies it by saying it's economically necessary, but they would never try to take a vital mismanaged bridge that restricts 25% of trade with our most important economic trading partner.  Because it's owned by a rich dude.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 08, 2012, 08:22:18 AM
Fascinating story. A great example of private enterprise working with government.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 08, 2012, 08:30:36 AM
BBC story on the 'new' importance of women in US politics (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20231337).

Romney couldn't get the black or Latin vote, or women.  Or young people.  Frankly, it's a literal shame that he allegedly got as much of the popular vote as he did.  But 53% of voters this time out were women, and for the first time ever white men don't represent a majority of the House.

This all suggests a continuing future decline for the far-right Republicans.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 08, 2012, 08:50:22 AM
Yep. This is what I was talking about yesterday with the "demise of the Republican party based on demographics". Not women, specifically, but everything other than the white male. The News Hour has been talking about this issue all through the election. Hell, even Limbaugh was talking about it in his own perverted way yesterday. I saw an article somewhere... not worthy of tracking it down.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 08, 2012, 08:54:37 AM
D'oh! I just ran across it:

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Republican radio figure Rush Limbaugh announced Wednesday that, far from the Republican Party simply failing to turn out its base on Tuesday night, “we are outnumbered” now in the country, calling President Barack Obama’s overwhelming reelection victory “the trend” from now on.

“We have to face some truths, we have to face some reality,” he said. “We are outnumbered and we are losing ground. This was not a glitch. This is the trend. That happened last night. This is the trend. We are outnumbered. Whether you want to put it in terms of, ‘Have we lost the country or not?’ There’s no other explanation.”
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Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 08, 2012, 09:53:21 AM
Reading stuff like that makes me happy that we still have a functioning republic with some civil rights for the citizens. We'd be well on our way to apartheid otherwise.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 08, 2012, 10:24:46 AM
Yeah, Limbaugh and his ilk are really all about making hay out of racist fears.

But my way of thinking is that if, say, Hispanics are going to outnumber the honkies someday soon, then maybe the honkies shouldn't be trying so hard to make the Hispanics hate them.  The GOP is like the abusive parents who wind up in a bad rest home when they're old because they made their kids hate them.
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Post by: vox8 on November 08, 2012, 10:42:59 AM
And whining about why no-one ever comes to visit them because they "tried so hard" to make life better for everyone.
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Post by: random axe on November 08, 2012, 11:35:24 AM
Yeah.  It makes me think of the one good part of Monster's Ball.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on November 09, 2012, 09:05:43 PM
 :lol:  I was in Rowan County the day before yesterday copying some docs out of a court file.  The copier is in the room where the judge's mail boxes are.  There is a Judge Charlie Brown there.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on November 09, 2012, 09:15:31 PM
i heard he's a clown.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2012, 09:55:17 PM
Good grief.
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Post by: pdrake on November 14, 2012, 12:33:11 PM
i sure hope someone up high reads this. it probably wouldn't matter anyway. (http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/11/09/letter-to-a-future-republican-strategist-regarding-white-people/)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 14, 2012, 12:42:10 PM
There are an awful lot of crazy people in this country.  They've been carefully bred and raised.  They're deeply self-entitled, extremely feeble at resisting fear-based propaganda, and hardcore believers in the sympathetic magic of worshipping the rich.  They're fish in the barrel for Republican politicians.

Name a dozen prominent GOP leaders.  Find one who isn't a crazy person.  It's often said that today we're so shallow and intolerant, as a nation, that we couldn't elect a man with a beard to high office.  But crazy has never been a barrier.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 15, 2012, 09:07:14 PM
ABC Affiliate: ‘All Up In My Snatch’ Petraeus Book Graphic A ‘Mistake’ (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/abc-denver-channel-broadwell-all-in.php)

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The editor pulled the image of the book cover from the Internet without realizing it had been doctored.  We sincerely regret the error...

 :rollin:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on November 15, 2012, 11:54:39 PM
Nice.  I haven't been following this or anything else as usual.  But a sex scandal?  He cheated on his wife with another consenting adult?  Come on.  Clinton, JFK, everyone in Congress.

There must be something else to this.  I call smokescreen.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on November 16, 2012, 12:07:03 AM
I won't discount that it's a smokescreen, but it is an issue. Clearances partially depend on some random person thinking you'd be an upstanding citizen, and their model citizen is Mrs. Kravitz.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 16, 2012, 07:10:12 AM
To the military, adultery that becomes public is always a major issue.  They can put you in jail for it, although they rarely do.

The actual media scandal is that this is a high-ranking government official who had a really stupid affair that his friends helped him try to cover up.

To the right-wing media, this has something to do with whatever they think happened at the embassy in Benghazi.  Which is bullshit -- the W Administration's routinely terrible record on terrorism included embarrassingly bad embassy security, with half a dozen attacks and something like 30 people killed, no outcry from Republicans.

In real life, the scandal here is that the head of the CIA had an affair with a scatterbrained journalist who couldn't keep her mouth shut, and then he took teenager-level precautions to hide it, couldn't cover it up, got upper-level military brass involved, etc.  You can't run the CIA if this is your level of skill with covert ops.

The more interesting stuff is all about the journalist and her socialite enemies.  She apparently thought this other woman was also having an affair with Petraeus, and they got into it.  Meanwhile, this socialite other woman had an FBI stalker who was obsessed with her, and that guy went after the journalist, even though it was a violation of his job, and uncovered the whole mess.  Plus, the socialite and her husband ran a scam cancer charity . . . in Florida, of course.

Plus, when yon saucy journalist was 'embedded' in Afghanistan, she apparently was allowed into various classified areas and meetings that she wasn't cleared for.  Lots of derp when sex is involved, as usual.  Although the claim is that they weren't having sex yet, which doesn't make the security issues better.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 16, 2012, 09:41:40 AM
I think "scatterbrained" is a bit harsh. What's the adjective for someone who does really stupid things because they're in love?

I haven't been following the scandal for the past couple of days, so I may have missed any new players, but I noticed a couple you left out - Natalie Khawam (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/natalie-khawam-loan-lobbyist_n_2141022.html?utm_hp_ref=politics), live-in sister of the socialite (that article is just something I googled up, I wasn't aware of some of those allegations, I was reading different allegations about her the other day) and Air Force General John Allen, who allegedly generated 20-30,000 pages of email correspondence with Jill Kelley (the socialite). I don't think they have any dirt on him yet, but WTF, 20-30,000 pages?

And the republicans think the scandal was covered up by the Obama campaign, like it would have had a negative effect on Obama's chances, and then the pubs think the Obama administration quickly dumped Petraeus after the election so that he wouldn't be able to testify in the Benghazi investigation. Both theories are pretty crazy, and they have other theories that are even crazier.

Anyway, it's all kind of fascinating - the depth of the scandal. There seems to be something new every day.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 16, 2012, 11:35:15 AM
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I think "scatterbrained" is a bit harsh. What's the adjective for someone who does really stupid things because they're in love?

Actually, I think "scatterbrained" is just right, especially for that application, but I'm willing to entertain thesaurian competitors.  :shrug:

My guess is that few DC socialites could withstand close scrutiny without producing a scandal.  It's a deeply incestuous town.  For that matter, virtually no members of Congress could withstand close scrutiny.

The whole issue with the Special Prosecutor thing that came up when Clinton was in office was that virtually no one in government could not be taken down by a Special Prosecutor.  Some Republicans were afraid that the Dems might also just start proposing Special Prosecutors to look into whatever.  Of course, the Dems never have that kind of pluck.  But the threat of it is, I'm sure, what has kept the GOP from making free use of that power.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 16, 2012, 12:22:20 PM
For the Republicans, this is just another political hammer with which to beat the President. They don't actually care about the risk of people exposing secret information, which they did all the time when they were in power (see Valerie Plame), to suit their own ends, so fuck them. No, don't fuck them, that's too nice; strip'em naked and dump them in the middle of Gaza.

I suppose there is a question about what if any secret information got shared with whats'ername. It would have been against the law for Petraeus to do that, so there should be an investigation. It's also against the law (military) to have extramarital affairs, which is complete unconstitutional bullshit but it still comes up, however he is retired right so I don't think the UCMJ applies to him any more, yeah? So that's bullshit too.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 16, 2012, 01:34:07 PM
Most military everything is unconstitutional bullshit.  I'm just saying.

We decided to go in a particular direction with our military, a very long time ago, and realistically undoing that was never even likely feasible and won't be until we get to the point where 90% of our military capacity is run by private corporations.  And god knows that will probably be a huge mess. 

But it is what it is, and I personally don't believe in pretending it's something else.  It's the basic reason I declined to join that organization.  Not out of an idealistic philosophical protest but because I'm not signing away my civil rights or agreeing to take kill-or-die commands from some jackass I don't even know.

I still respect people who are in the military.  But I don't pretend it's something it's not.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on November 16, 2012, 01:38:22 PM
The military is heading for gamer kids controlling drones.  And it will probably be contract prison labor at that point.  Maybe Petraeus spoke out about that and that's why the affair was leaked, so they'd have a plausible reason for getting rid of him.

I don't trust anything anymore.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 16, 2012, 05:30:11 PM
I don't trust anything anymore.

Learned well you have, young Jedi.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 16, 2012, 05:43:03 PM
They barely need gamer kids, at this point.  The games can more or less play themselves.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on November 16, 2012, 07:42:12 PM
So, what then?  What will all this prison labor do?

Oh yeah, bio-fuels for Skynet.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 17, 2012, 04:52:11 AM
Plus call centers to hassle people in India about changing their cell phone plans.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 05, 2013, 08:19:57 PM
OK, SERIOUSLY:  Who the fuck is in charge of a local newspaper or TV station today whose website doesn't say, in the header, where the hell it is?

So many news sites, still, that just assume everyone online knows where Centerville is just from reading a news story about something that happened there.  "Worldwide" web.  Worldwide.

WORLD
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 05, 2013, 08:34:54 PM
Heh. Yeah, I've seen that too many times. Very common.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 05, 2013, 09:07:05 PM
Ten years ago was one thing.  That was still almost ten years too late to be that stupid, but by now it's just embarrassingly stupid.


Meanwhile, relevant to else, note the infographic with the map (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257597/Flu-infections-sweep-America-hospitalizing-thousands-leaving-18-children-dead-complications-going-worse.html).

Not that I'm saying this is an important graphic.  My point here is that the color used for "No symptoms reported" is indistinguishable to me from the one for "At least 1 person with Influenza-like illness".  THANKS FOR NOTHING.

Stupid anyway, but jeez.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 05, 2013, 09:16:38 PM
 :trance:

Oww... my eyes!

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Post by: feffer on January 05, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
No, what IS the point of that graphic?  Why do we need pins showing where people AREN'T sick?
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Post by: flipper on January 06, 2013, 12:17:12 AM
I was hoping for a pin that said where there wasn't a waffle house.
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Post by: eldiem on January 06, 2013, 11:41:28 PM
I think it's to show where they have any data at all. No pin = no data. Green pin = data showing no flu. It's too crowded with all those pins. It would be easier to read if they had a gradient map or something.
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Post by: pdrake on January 07, 2013, 12:47:28 PM
it would be easier to read if it was the actual interactive google map and not a stupid screen shot of it.

very lame
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 10, 2013, 08:47:54 AM
Oh, it's an insane story.  There was a link in that article to this one, which has the history of the bridge (http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2012/01/12/why-one-rich-man-shouldnt-own-an-international-bridge/) and a bunch of other insanity about it.

Even just reading Page One of that makes the mind boggle.  And it's a good example of how wealthy private interests (rich people and corporations) jeopardize US national security far more than any lame foreign cult does. 

The government takes private homes all the time to build airports and justifies it by saying it's economically necessary, but they would never try to take a vital mismanaged bridge that restricts 25% of trade with our most important economic trading partner.  Because it's owned by a rich dude.

The Ambassador bridge story made the Daily Show last night. (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-9-2013/bridge-to-canada?xrs=share_copy)
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Post by: random axe on January 10, 2013, 10:20:35 AM
Sweet.  I can't get it to play, but I'll try at work later.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 14, 2013, 08:41:09 AM
The only person in Congress who isn't a Democrat or Republican reflects on both parties (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sanders/the-soul-of-america_b_2439576.html).

It's not full of surprises, but it's well said, and he's a good guy.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 14, 2013, 08:47:36 AM
I read the first two paragraphs and already want to slit my wrist. Does it have a happy ending?

I like Bernie's speeches, you just can't talk about the current state of affairs without being depressing.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 14, 2013, 11:08:45 AM
It's never had a happy ending so far, but who knows?  I don't think problems like these get solved; I think the situation just gets better or worse.  But if, say, thirty percent of the wealth of the Waltons was transferred to the bottom half of US citizens over a generation, that would make a vast difference.

Well.  Not to the Waltons.  Which is kind of the point.  And it would sure increase sales at Walmart.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 14, 2013, 12:16:53 PM
College dorm community board:

(http://i.imgur.com/JQ3Cp.png)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 19, 2013, 08:07:10 PM
Wow, this is not a good year for the NRA.
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Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 19, 2013, 08:19:38 PM
'bout time. They suck syphilitic donkey dicks.

Didn't use to be so. It was interesting to read about how they changed, basically overnight, at one of their general conventions in 1977 where there was essentially a coup by the crazies. The crazies have ruled the roost since.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 20, 2013, 10:20:33 AM
I read that as NBA  :P

Are you referring to the gun show accidents? I felt guilty for laughing while reading the article.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 20, 2013, 01:00:11 PM
Apparently, on the same day, accidental shootings at three different gun shows.  FFS.

The dealer who accidentally shot a couple of people when he unpacked a loaded shotgun . . . the sheriff said they weren't sure if it was legal to bring a loaded gun onto the state fairgrounds or not.  Really?  Because that's the kind of thing the sheriff would need to know before working security at the gun show at the state fairgrounds.

And you'd think that by the next day they would have been able to look it up.  Or come right out and say that technically it was illegal, but they didn't want to press charges.  Or something.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 20, 2013, 04:50:33 PM
Yeah, that whole thing sounded suspicious, like they normally don't give a crap and anything goes, but since everyone's looking, new rule: no loaded shotguns at public gatherings  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 05, 2013, 10:05:46 PM
Oops -- 90% of Massachusetts compounding pharmacies failed surprise inspections (http://www.boston.com/whitecoatnotes/2013/02/05/just-massachusetts-compounding-pharmacies-passed-surprise-health-inspections/zFT7FKklNPfj6EdW4tYu1L/story.html).

Not all were serious infractions, but over 25% were ordered to shut down, and MA is generally considered a more highly regulated state, as these things go.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2013, 07:53:26 AM
Pope's resigning.

I resisted several snarky jokes.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on February 11, 2013, 08:00:40 AM
(http://guildhaven.org/images/pope_cape_evil.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 11, 2013, 03:56:57 PM
Pope's resigning.

Many Bothans died to bring us this information.

(bear with me, I'm saying this everywhere on the internet today)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2013, 04:57:54 PM
GO CRY EMO BOTHANS.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on February 11, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
He wants to be able to help pick his successor, so they can keep denying... everything.  :angry:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
Really waiting for a Pope who's more interested in Jesus than interested in the church.  Personally, I think the church would be just fine if that happened; I think the church would tend to flourish. 

But I can't say I see it happening.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on February 12, 2013, 12:44:06 AM
(http://kenraggio.com/Pope-Gold-Pearls.jpg)

PR move plain and simple. they probably hired a fucking gordan gecko spin doctor to help change their image after the last few years.

no better way to get the word out than to do something that hasn't happened in 600 years.

sorry, forgot this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/93/Buddy_christ.jpg/300px-Buddy_christ.jpg)

welcome to the new and improved catholic church! now under new management!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on February 12, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
Really waiting for a Pope who's more interested in Jesus than interested in the church.  Personally, I think the church would be just fine if that happened; I think the church would tend to flourish. 

But I can't say I see it happening.

That's a novel idea.  Never happen.
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Post by: the other andrea on February 12, 2013, 04:50:31 PM
Agree
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Post by: Hisey on February 13, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
One of the gun show shootings happened in my town. I live like 1/4 mile away from the fairgrounds. Yay Medina!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2013, 04:25:42 PM
That is both funky and cold.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on February 13, 2013, 11:07:55 PM
That is both funky and cold.


 :rollin:
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Post by: the other andrea on February 22, 2013, 04:00:13 AM
Detroit is about to become a dictatorship (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2013/02/financial_review_team_finds_de.html)? There's an interesting discussion evolving in another forum I frequent (http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/politics-religion-society/81062-detroit-run-dictatorship.html). Axe, what is your take on this?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 23, 2013, 01:02:04 PM
Detroit isn't all "Detroit", if you know what I mean, but every sizeable city is like that.

That said, Detroit has been solidly fucked since the late 1960s.  Local government after local government has failed to even come close to fixing it.  Frankly, it's 20 years past time to let OCP take a crack at it.  With oversight, yes, but come on.

I was just reading a big article the other day about state and city officials here trying to decide if it makes sense to try to attract new kinds of industry to Michigan.  FOR FUCK'S SAKE.  No matter what happens, the auto industry is not going to turn this place into Palo Alto.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 23, 2013, 12:08:56 PM
Vettel takes pole in wet Sepang (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21909869)


Story may be disappointingly about F1 racing.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 23, 2013, 01:03:35 PM
:galm:

Much better than any of the Danica Daytona pole headlines.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on April 25, 2013, 08:20:43 AM
Churnalism (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/04/is-it-journalism-or-just-a-repackaged-press-release-heres-a-tool-to-help-you-find-out/275206/)

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...essentially, an open-source plagiarism detection engine...

Nice. I don't know that I'd ever use it, but it's nice to know it's out there.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 18, 2013, 05:07:02 PM
I just have to say . . . arguably, it was bad for the IRS to direct special scrutiny toward groups that are publicly against taxation.  I mean, logically and statistically it just makes sense, and it could certainly be seen as a purely sensible use of taxpayer money, but it obviously could be construed as politically motivated discrimination.  But then, arguably, it's not the IRS's fault that most anti-tax advocates are Republicans or Libertarians.

Still.  I can't help but find it more than a little ironic that most of the people I've heard complaining about this whole thing are people who've defended racial and cultural profiling by the police.

I mean . . . :eyeroll: . . . is what I mean.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 18, 2013, 08:30:38 PM
Yeah, well, the people who are outraged about this also think we should use racial profiling to find "terrorists."
So fuck'em.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hedaira on May 18, 2013, 08:49:41 PM
Pretty much what I think. Tea Party can shut the fuck up and have a seat over there.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 19, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
So . . . the big scandals currently being trumpeted . . . are any of them actually scandals?  Even the GOP talking headlice don't seem to know what the Benghazi scandal is supposed to be about, and I've yet to see a news article explaining WTF the AP scandal is about.

The scandal about guns being sent to Mexico so we could track them, except we lost them -- that had some teeth.  That was a gimme.  GOP kind of blew that one.  I know they have to keep coming up with new ones, but sheesh. 

The way the feds are still incapable of sharing and processing security data properly, that's a heck of a scandal, too, although it certainly implicates Shrubby, too.  I guess the GOP (A) can't bear to criticize the useless TSA, and (B) doesn't want to criticize police organizations or the CIA too much.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 20, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
Yeah, well, the people who are outraged about this also think we should use racial profiling to find "terrorists."
So fuck'em.

Yep and it's not like the first time the executive branch has acted politically.  It's been happening for centuries.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 20, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
And really, never forget that the FBI's #1 priority at the beginning of September 2011 was infiltrating environmental organizations, who that administration considered to be terrorists.

Really don't forget that.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 21, 2013, 12:02:08 PM
I still say, with no tinfoil hat, that the Bush admin clearly knew that there was a very real plane-hijacking terrorist threat, and that they let it happen, not thinking it would turn out to be so serious.  They prepared for it in various ways (like banning staff from using commercial flights that summer) and were pre-postured to use it as an excuse to start wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and there was a vast amount of intelligence about it beforehand.

Every time we hear that 'no one could have imagined', it's the purest of bullshit.

Our anti-terrorism stuff is still pretty shitty, which is awfully disappointing, but of course so much effort goes into useless security theater, and we can't even get Gitmo closed.  Tough to expect the FBI, et al, to have gotten their shit together.  Thank god we're . . . doing something . . . in Afghanistan, though.  That's surely helping.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: phyre on May 21, 2013, 12:30:36 PM
Here's hoping that the "something" we're doing in Afghanistan actually leaves it a better place for the people who are stuck with it when we leave. I have medium hopes.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 21, 2013, 02:30:16 PM
Yeah, that would be tough to do.  By and large, in the modern age, what it takes to help 'fix' a badly imperialized / dictatored country is a widespread influx of internet, for about a generation, and a sustained improved standard of living.  People have to know and believe that they can do better.  Otherwise, they'll simply stick with traditions molded by darwinian forces that do not have things like 'human rights' and 'general welfare' as selection factors.

Afghanistan is the kind of place where you could largely fix the urbanized areas, if you tried, if you protected them from warlords who can retreat to rural areas.  You can't fix the rural areas.  But if you fixed the cities and hamstrung the warlords, the warlords would lose most of their power, and that would at least let the rural areas relax and get on with daily life.

Of course, there's the drug trade problem, which is going to prop up the warlords until or unless you can do something about it.  Organized crime makes it really hard to deal with these kinds of things.  Ask Mexico.  There's so much money in crime, though, that often the only way to fight it is to either corporatize it (ie, let corporations legally get into that cash flow, because they'll outcompete the criminals) or supplant it (with a better, mutually exclusive cash flow).

But we're generally not trying to do any of those things in Afghanistan.  Frankly, I'm not sure what we're trying to do at this point -- we seem to have lost track of the point, just like the Russians did.  We don't seem to be trying to corral terrorists; we don't really seem to be staging for Pakistan; we don't seem to be trying to secure that oil pipeline plan that Cheney and his friends wanted.  Are we mostly there because the pols can't figure out how to exit gracefully?  Maybe.

Staging for Pakistan is stupid, incidentally, since (A) they're unstable, (B) they have nukes, and (C) China and India both also have nukes and keep a nervous eye on them.  Bush fumbled the hell out of that situation.  Constructive engagement is really the only option left.  Terrorists playing grabass from the western hills are beside the point.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 21, 2013, 04:24:32 PM
Here's hoping that the "something" we're doing in Afghanistan actually leaves it a better place for the people who are stuck with it when we leave. I have medium hopes.

Yeah, that's what the British and the Soviets said, too. It's not going to happen. Pretty much ever.

One of the HUGELY ironic things about all of this is that the Republicans got a lot of traction from the process of directing US foreign policy away from Vietnam-like activities, saying a lot of snarky things about liberal nation-building, verging on isolationist talk etc, then SUCCESSFULLY implementing it with the first Gulf War, then ten years later, with many of the same people running the show, turning it all the way the hell around and going into Afghanistan and Iraq in a HUGE way with the specific intention of wiping out the regimes and replacing them with friendlier ones JUST LIKE KENNEDY IN 1962.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on May 21, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
I still say, with no tinfoil hat, that the Bush admin clearly knew that there was a very real plane-hijacking terrorist threat, and that they let it happen, not thinking it would turn out to be so serious.  They prepared for it in various ways (like banning staff from using commercial flights that summer) and were pre-postured to use it as an excuse to start wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and there was a vast amount of intelligence about it beforehand.

Every time we hear that 'no one could have imagined', it's the purest of bullshit.

Our anti-terrorism stuff is still pretty shitty, which is awfully disappointing, but of course so much effort goes into useless security theater, and we can't even get Gitmo closed.  Tough to expect the FBI, et al, to have gotten their shit together.  Thank god we're . . . doing something . . . in Afghanistan, though.  That's surely helping.

I just recently watched a decent HBO documentary called Manhunt (http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2013/05/film-review-manhunt-search-bin-laden-hbo), billed as "the hunt for Bin Laden", but of more interest to me was the insight into what the CIA knew in the 90's. I wouldn't call it a fascinating documentary, but it was pretty interesting.

FYI, Manhunt is also a gay matching service, apparently, so know that if you're going to google it with someone looking over your shoulder :P

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on May 22, 2013, 01:15:04 PM
being an apatheist, i still think this sounds really good. i wonder how the rest of the vatican is taking it?

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/05/22/pope_at_mass:_culture_of_encounter_is_the_foundation_of_peace/en1-694445
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 22, 2013, 01:16:13 PM
I really like the term "apatheist".  It says "I'm too lazy to go through the crazy work it takes to believe in gods".   :detta:  :love:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 22, 2013, 01:23:18 PM
I like Universalizing Apathist.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 22, 2013, 02:02:44 PM
Yeah. Frank talks the talk, and means it, but it will not result in real concrete change. The Vatican is hopelessly wedded to regressive doctrine, and that's really sad. The whole of the college of Cardinals and the entire bureaucracy of the church was hand-picked by Ratzinger. They will passive-aggressively resist any attempts by the holy father to effect a real change toward the views he expresses in his teachings. And if they find they're losing they'll kill him, as they did John Paul I.

(it's my only conspiracy theory, pleeeease let me keep it)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on May 22, 2013, 02:04:45 PM
It's not a conspiracy, it's god's will.  ;)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 23, 2013, 02:54:13 PM
He's apparently talked about how the church shouldn't be hoarding wealth when there are so many poor people.  I give him five years, tops.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on May 23, 2013, 09:36:54 PM
He's apparently talked about how the church shouldn't be hoarding wealth when there are so many poor people.  I give him five years, tops.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Hisey on May 26, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
Yeah. Frank talks the talk, and means it, but it will not result in real concrete change. The Vatican is hopelessly wedded to regressive doctrine, and that's really sad. The whole of the college of Cardinals and the entire bureaucracy of the church was hand-picked by Ratzinger. They will passive-aggressively resist any attempts by the holy father to effect a real change toward the views he expresses in his teachings. And if they find they're losing they'll kill him, as they did John Paul I.

(it's my only conspiracy theory, pleeeease let me keep it)
that's not conspiracy, that's congress. except they're aggressive-aggressive
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 01, 2013, 01:34:55 PM
Pope Frank emphasizes works over faith; Vatican calls bullshit (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/27/vatican-confirms-atheists-still-going-to-hell_n_3341368.html)


:popcorn:


He really is better than average.  And they really might kill him to shut him up.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on June 02, 2013, 03:25:26 PM
Well that's a relief.  There's a shitload of people who are supposedly going to heaven when they die that I would certainly NOT want to spend an eternity with.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2013, 08:45:32 AM
I just have to say:

- NSA spying on phone and internet use:  To be expected.  Frankly, it's kind of their job.  If they do it right, you'll never know they were spying on you.  Even moreso, if they do it right, only software will actually spy on you (unless you're up to something really bad), and even they won't know they were spying on you.

- NSA gets caught spying on us:  This is what's not supposed to happen.  Frankly, it suggests they suck at their job.

If you can't spy properly, then you don't get to violate the Constitution to do it.  It takes remarkable circumstances for the ends to justify the means, and this is a classic example of No.

Meanwhile, anybody not in the US is perfectly justified in being even more pissed off about being spied on.  They shouldn't be surprised, but they can still be offended and angry, sure.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on June 08, 2013, 08:53:46 AM
I'm a little surprised at the anger and surprise. I kind of thought everyone knew.

It's getting harder to keep secrets, even for governments.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 20, 2013, 12:46:18 PM
Pope sez rich people are to blame for poor people (http://news.yahoo.com/pope-blames-speculation-corruption-scandalous-food-crisis-111649612.html).

Oh, they gonna kill him soon now.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: eldiem on June 20, 2013, 05:43:06 PM
They so are.

I am considering going to church on Sunday. Not because of the cool pope or anything, but it doesn't hurt.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 20, 2013, 06:29:57 PM
That woman whose citizenship was being held up because she's an atheist (basically) has been processed after all, thanks in large part to a Republican Congressional rep from Texas (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/06/20/after-initially-being-denied-u-s-citizenship-because-of-her-atheism-margaret-doughtys-application-has-been-approved/).

That seems newsworthy to me.  Good job, Blake Farenthold!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on June 20, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
:clap:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 27, 2013, 02:38:30 PM
Rand Paul:
Quote
"If you change one variable – man and a woman – to a man and a man and a woman and a woman, you cannot tell me then that you can't logically change the other variable," Beck said. "One man, three women. One woman, four men. Who are you to say that if I am a devout Muslim and I come over here and I have three wives, who are you to say if I am an American citizen that I can't have multiple marriages?"

And . . . ?

Quote
"This is a conundrum, and it gets back to what you were saying …whether or not churches should decide this," Paul said. "And it is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans?"

Consenting adults, one would think.  The law has some experience in defining "consenting adult".

Now his handlers are saying he was being sarcastic.  :huh:  His communications director helpfully said that what he meant "was that having the state recognize marriage without definition could lead to marriages with no basis in reality."  I don't think the state can "recognize marriage" without some definition.  What we're arguing about is what that definition should be, not whether we should have one.

I'm not sure that the churches necessarily have any strict relevance when it comes to jurisprudence.  Does the state weigh in on whether or not a member of the clergy is really a "bishop"?  Having the church and the state use their own definitions of "marriage" would be, I don't know, explicitly constitutional.  Seems about right.

Back to Paul:

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"I also see that economically, if you don't look at it with any moral periscope, and you say, 'What is it that is the leading cause of poverty in our country?' It's having kids without marriage," Paul said. "That stability of the marriage unit is enormous, and we should not say we're punting on it and marriage can be anything."

Calm your moral periscope, my friend.  Not to mention your peculiar assumptions about the causes of poverty.  Nor was anyone against DOMA, that I ever heard, in favor of marriage being "anything".

Anyway, Paul says he's against DOMA, which is great, but really he's only against it because it was federal.  He wants the states to all set their own definitions.  Except, apparently, he has ideas about what those definitions shouldn't be.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on June 27, 2013, 04:41:18 PM
Prop 8 is going around quoting Monty Python, "I'm not dead yet!", but it should join the Choir Invisible soon.

I'm curious what will be tried next. I think those that supported the proposition will try again, but the basis they attempt might be interesting. In some ways, it'd be good to see - if they fail again and again, their tactics will need to try to use smaller and smaller wedges since the larger holes have been closed off.

I don't think we're ready for plural marriage yet. Our culture has a love of binaries, after all.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: vox8 on June 27, 2013, 05:52:40 PM
There is a hell of a lot more pro-plural marriages in the OT bible than there are arguments against homosexuality.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: vox8 on June 27, 2013, 05:53:08 PM
Sorry about the shitty tense agreement in there.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 27, 2013, 06:19:47 PM
Bible sanctions polygamy and all kinds of forced marriages, too.  People can force their slaves to get married, and widows are obligated to marry and submit to their brothers-in-law.  (Well, one BIL per widow, that is, unless the BILs keep dying.)  And a rape victim can be forced to marry and submit to her rapist.

I forget what else, but all kinds of stuff that I doubt the Christian Coalition wants to get into.  Except they're probably down with the rapist marriage thing.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on June 27, 2013, 08:44:07 PM
poverty is caused by having children, but then again, so is pretty much everything else impacting the human race.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 28, 2013, 12:04:52 PM
Makes me think he hasn't heard of A Modest Proposal.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on June 28, 2013, 12:23:26 PM
probably not

let's not give him any ideas.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 07, 2013, 01:47:27 PM
Pics from the train incident in Quebec (http://imgur.com/a/24mFl/noscript).

The explanation so far of what went wrong is pretty strange.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on July 07, 2013, 03:00:31 PM
Whoa. Fireball.

You can feel the heat off that first pic.

What's weird about this, well, one thing, is I just re-watched that Denzel movie a couple nights ago about the runaway train.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 07, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
Not as good as the Voigt/Roberts/deMornay runaway train movie.

And yeah, that's weird. it was parked, and then it was out of control in the middle of town blowing up? Yeah.

(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/005/000216_48.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on July 07, 2013, 03:10:19 PM
No, it's been a long time since I saw the Voight one though. I can barely remember it. In fact, I don't even remember Rebecca being in it. Those other two are hams, I tell ya.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 07, 2013, 03:30:15 PM
He parked it for the night -- they're saying it was "tied down", which must just be an industry term.  But don't they still use failsafe pneumatic  or hydraulic brakes?  If there's no pressure, there's a big ball bearing that jams, and the car goes nowhere.  And from the way they're connected, if one car has no pressure, none of them do.

I guess they must not set them up that way anymore.  Or he parked it on one hell of a hill.



And, I mean, they don't have electronic safeguards?  And more than one person to check the brakes?  This engineer wasn't the only person working on that entire train, was he?  Hell, I don't know what to think.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: the other andrea on July 07, 2013, 03:38:24 PM
Not as good as the Voigt/Roberts/deMornay runaway train movie.

And yeah, that's weird. it was parked, and then it was out of control in the middle of town blowing up? Yeah.

(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/005/000216_48.jpg)

I just watched that movie last weekend!   :brainwaves:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 07, 2013, 05:11:56 PM
Thing about the railroads is, they're as cheap as hell. Particularly the small ones. There's a video circulating around youtube of "the worst tracks in the nation" on a small line near Chicago. It's kind of incredible, actually, that they actually run trains over it. Anyway, they don't like to do maintenance. It's expensive, and equipment losses are insured, so, there's little motivation. In one shot the tracks look like ramen noodles (a bit of tele foreshortening there but still)

http://youtu.be/TrvLK24VlEs or http://youtu.be/YYHUTbyPUS0
(pay no attention to the santa fe livery here, when the vid was shot the railroad didn't exist any more, it's an engine that was sold to Maumee and Western and they were too cheap to repaint it)

So I'm not saying they cut corners on safety equipment and maintenance in the Quebec accident, but, they cut corners on safety equipment and maintenance.

(http://teenskepchick.org/files/2013/04/159-484x200.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 08, 2013, 10:05:47 AM
In the absence of sufficient regulation and oversight, liability has to exceed the corporation's incentive to misbehave.

That's, like, the basic rule for a society that wants to have corporations.  COME ON, CANADA.




Not that we're any good at it, either.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 09, 2013, 03:18:48 PM
Um. OK. Latest story is (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23246450), there was a small electrical fire on the train, after the engineer went home for the night, leaving one of the five locomotives running (to power the brakes?). The firemen reportedly shut down the last engine and put out the fire. Nobody from the railroad came by (including the engineer, who was asleep in a hotel in Lac-Mégantic) to check on things before the accident.

It still makes no sense. Don't the air brakes require power to *open*? Wouldn't they failsafe to *closed* when power is removed? Or have I got that backwards?

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on July 09, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
If they're air brakes, they need an air compressor working I would guess.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 09, 2013, 04:06:42 PM
Quote
Don't the air brakes require power to *open*? Wouldn't they failsafe to *closed* when power is removed? Or have I got that backwards?

That's how they USED to work.  You [ahem] used to be able to sabotage a train by cutting the brake hoses, and it would be stuck where it was until they replaced the hoses and reset the system.

Yeah, look at this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_air_brake).

Quote
The Westinghouse system uses air pressure to charge air reservoirs (tanks) on each car. Full air pressure signals each car to release the brakes. A reduction or loss of air pressure signals each car to apply its brakes, using the compressed air in its reservoirs.

And as time went on:

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Unlike the straight air system, the Westinghouse system uses a reduction in air pressure in the train line to apply the brakes.

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Modern air brake systems serve two functions:

- The service brake system, which applies and releases the brakes during normal operations, and

- The emergency brake system, which applies the brakes rapidly in the event of a brake pipe failure or an emergency application by the engine driver (generally referred to as the automatic brake).



The article does discuss some ways in which these systems can fail.  It says [ahem ahem]:

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Railroads have strict government-approved procedures for testing the air brake systems when making up trains in a yard or picking up cars en route.

:shrug:  Sounds like the explanation offered so far is still BS.  I think they're just trying to blame the firefighters.

Ultimately, what I think is MOST bullshit about this is that it should cost, like, $100 with modern tech to make the train know if it's rolling when it's not supposed to be and let it call someone.  And that seems like a widely useful in a wide variety of situations.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on July 09, 2013, 05:07:19 PM
This is near and dear to my heart:


U.S. debt collector hit with record penalty for abusive calls (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/09/us-usa-ftc-debt-collection-idUSBRE9680Q820130709?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews)

I'm glad to hear the FTC actually has some balls. I used to get collection calls all the time that were based on some out-of-date phone number list. I just recently got a collection call for the person who used my address to apply for a credit card. I told them, "sorry wrong number", and they actually said something like, "we apologize for the inconvenience. Your phone number will be removed from our records withing 24 hours"  :shock: I was partly shocked and partly thinking, "yeah... right". I haven't heard from them since though :shrug:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 09, 2013, 05:21:27 PM
You said it.  If you're a debt collector who ISN'T a total asshole criminal, you should be hugely in favor of this.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on July 09, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
I've done debt collection.  I'm glad to see it whenever the FTC enforces the law.  There is never, ever, any reason whatsoever, to be abusive or rude in collecting a financial debt. 
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 10, 2013, 05:31:09 PM
The railroad boss is blaming the engineer (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23264397). He was supposed to set hand brakes, claimed he did, and the boss is saying he's lying. :shrug:

Only one guy responsible for five locomotives, the whole train, and all that oil. One guy. So I'm not saying they cut corners on safety equipment and maintenance, but ...
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 10, 2013, 07:08:37 PM
It is, at a minimum, a criminally negligent policy. 

Hell, if I were the oil company, I'd call that criminally negligent.

But I still don't understand the deal with the brakes.  Not having failsafe brakes on a FREIGHT TRAIN would just be monumentally stupid, and it doesn't seem like a money-saver, either.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2013, 01:23:25 PM
George Alexander Louis.

I will call him Geallo.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2013, 01:25:05 PM
ALSO:  Didja notice they made their first public attempt to kill the new Pope?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 24, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
it was a pretty weak attempt.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2013, 04:44:45 PM
Testing the waters, maybe.  But I bet they would have loved for him to be killed by a South American mob.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 24, 2013, 05:00:28 PM
ALSO:  Didja notice they made their first public attempt to kill the new Pope?

Who, the railroad?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 24, 2013, 05:22:06 PM
the knights templar
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 24, 2013, 10:46:51 PM
the knights templar

Like Snake Plissken, I thought they were dead.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 25, 2013, 12:10:52 AM
the knights templar

Like Snake Plissken, I thought they were dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boSmmVxqcW8
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 25, 2013, 12:36:59 PM
Oh, I'm sure there are five or ten seekrit organizations out there calling themselves the Knights Templar -- and meaning it.

The Masons are full of secret and semi-secret 'inner circle' sects, and there are a ton of small not-those-Masons-but-we're-the-REAL-Masons groups, too.  Always the way.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 26, 2013, 09:36:48 AM
Detroit to build $450 million hockey arena (http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/26/news/economy/detroit-bankruptcy-arena/index.html?hpt=hp_t2).

I love the dude saying B-b-b-ut Jobs!  I'm sure the arena will result in $285 million in wages over the 30 years it's supposed to take for taxpayers to pay that part off -- that's $9.5 million a year, and if the arena legitimately creates 200 new jobs, that's an average of $47,500 a year.  Most arena employees won't make that much, but the folks at the top will balance it out.

Of course, assuming they do continue to get people to go to Red Wings games, most of that will come from the pockets of locals who buy hockey tickets, so it won't be a net gain for Detroit, much less Michigan.  And, come to think of it, that same $285 million in taxpayer money could have been spent hiring 800 unemployed people to work for 15 years guaranteed (!) at $23,250 a year to, you know, physically fix Detroit.  Current maximum unemployment benefits in Michigan are $15,600 a year . . . and the state doesn't get much Detroit-fixing out of that . . . and unemployment doesn't keep paying for 15 years, or build job skills, etc.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on July 26, 2013, 10:33:23 AM
Same thinking works for colleges, so why shouldn't it work for a city? Oh, wait, it doesn't actually work, does it?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 20, 2013, 04:34:11 PM
From a 1966 Newsweek, I saw a thing that said that over 25 years, a typical family with two kids can expect to borrow about $60,000.  That includes:

$20k for a house
$20k for college
$15k for cars
$1500 for appliances
$3500 for home improvements


Adjusted for inflation (rounded slightly), that's:

House -  $144k
College -  $144k
Cars -  $108k
Appliances -  $11k
Home Improvements -  $25k


In 2013, averages:

House -- $210k is the average sale price for a house so far this year.

College -- $9k-$30k per year for college (average in-state public to average private), considering just fees and tuition, so this figure should be $36k-$120k.  (Columbia is currently the most expensive for fees and tuition alone, at over $47k a year, for some reason.)  I couldn't find anywhere online that would tell me the actual average net cost -- ie, average paid by student for all students attending college, instead of average cost among all colleges, which is extremely different. 

Those 1966 numbers are clearly for private school, though, so I'm calling the equivalent $120k.  The 1966 numbers assume two kids, although who knows if they meant four-year degrees, which were less the default at the time.  Regardless, college costs have far outpaced inflation, so $240k to send two kids to school has to be a safely lowball comparison.

Cars -- The government's latest published statistics on this are for 2007, which is pretty old, but I couldn't find newer numbers that weren't contradicted sharply by someone else.  In 2007, though, the average household in the bottom 80% of the economy (ie, almost everyone) spent about $8,800 per year on automobiles.  So over 25 years, that's $220k.  (In 2012, AAA said the cost was up to almost $9k a year for sedan owners and markedly higher for SUV owners.  Yeesh.)  Of course, in 1966, when your kids went off to school, it was pretty rare they'd take a car with them, too, so costs for these purposes are probably higher . . . .

Appliances -- According to the National Association of Home Builders, in 2007 the average household spent about $1,100 a year on appliances.  Over 25 years, that would be $27,500.

Home Improvements -- Same source, about $2,400 a year.  Over 25 years, that'd be $60k.

SO, in approximate constant dollars, from 1966 to 2013 that's:

House -  $144k  ==>  $210k
College -  $144k  ==>  $240k
Cars -  $108k  ==>  $220k
Appliances -  $11k  ==>  $27.5k
Home Improvement -  $25k  ==>  $60k

And that's adjusted for inflation . . . except it's even worse, because the 'in 2013' numbers are projected numbers for 25 years without trying to account for inflation from here on out.  So those numbers are too low.  Plus, I was playing it safe with the modern numbers.  Clearly, we spend way too much on cars nowadays, although a big part of that change is the increase in the cost of gas.

Meanwhile, adjusted for inflation most US workers' income has gone down since around 1970.  No wonder everyone who isn't rich is broke.  The difference in costs works out to $325,000 that the parents would otherwise have been able to spend or save for retirement.  Even over 25 years, that adds up.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on August 20, 2013, 04:45:51 PM
And if one has a special needs child or lives in the SF Bay area, or pepe forbid, both.  I'd love to have such little debt.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on August 20, 2013, 05:03:15 PM
$1100 a year on appliances? Pretty shoddy and expensive appliances! I think we've spent less than that in the ten years we have owned the house.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 20, 2013, 05:55:28 PM
:hmm:

"appliances" can cover a lot of ground. Since they didn't have computers at home then ... I think this is a fair budget for computers and phones as well as fridges and microwaves.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on August 20, 2013, 06:19:07 PM
it would be nice if wages had increased at the same rate as even the lower estimate.

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 20, 2013, 06:22:30 PM
YARLY.

Yeah, I'm not sure what NAHB considers "appliances" today.  They had a separate category for "furnishings", which (I guess) includes furniture and things like silverware, towels, etc.  Clothes?  I'd have to spend more time on it than I felt like.

Frankly, the whole thing made me realize how poor I really am, which is especially sad considering I'm at about twice the poverty line . . . and most people in my income bracket (A) have dependents and (B) don't manage their money as well as I do.

But thank god CEO salaries quintupled on average during W's regime.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 20, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
it would be nice if wages had increased at the same rate as even the lower estimate.

I noticed that. Got to be some kind of selection of the cohort there, because real wages have declined.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2013, 11:26:47 AM
Well, average household debt has skyrocketed over the same period, especially if you take credit cards under consideration.  1966 was the first year there was a general purpose credit card in the US -- that's the year MasterCharge or whatever formed.

Current average credit card debt per household is around $16k. 
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 21, 2013, 01:52:03 PM
I can top that!

Er. Well. Not quite. :shy: :doh: :whatever: :stbm:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2013, 04:26:16 PM
Meanwhile . . . in today's school shooting (where reportedly no one got hurt), the name of the school is the Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy.

That's terrible.  Everybody's fired.  Go home until we can come up with a proper name.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 21, 2013, 04:29:08 PM
Meanwhile . . . in today's school shooting (where reportedly no one got hurt), the name of the school is the Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy.

That's terrible.  Everybody's fired.  Go home until we can come up with a proper name.

:hmm:

You think it should be the Ronald E. McNair Challenger Learning Academy?

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2013, 04:37:48 PM
Seriously, that's like a parody name.  I think that was the name of the school in Zoolander.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 21, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
The Derek Zoolander Institute For Kids Who Can't Read Good and Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too?

Yeah.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on August 21, 2013, 04:57:17 PM
Ian goes to the new charter Discovery 2.  Honey Badgers is the leading candidate for school mascot.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on August 21, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
i thought they were cardinals?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 22, 2013, 10:50:03 AM
We have stuff around here named for McNair.  He went to school in Greensboro, NCA&T.

AGGIE PRIIIIIDE!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 22, 2013, 02:58:45 PM
NOBODY GOT MY JOKE

:tableflip:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 22, 2013, 02:59:48 PM
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AGGIE PRIIIIIDE!

WELL then they shouldn't name a school after him using his full name and adding Discovery Learning Education Academy School Center.


Hmof, your joke was too soon.  TOO SOON.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 22, 2013, 05:30:23 PM
AH!  North Carolina is going hard-school Third World derp:

What, really? (http://abcnews.go.com/US/north-carolina-bans-latest-science-rising-sea-level/story?id=16913782)


edit:  And I just noticed that's from last year.  Better or worse?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 22, 2013, 06:40:46 PM
Crap, we're becoming the new Florida.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on August 22, 2013, 06:43:24 PM
Are they going to allow hunters to bag scientists next?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 22, 2013, 06:43:33 PM
Your state has the GOP disease real bad.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: vox8 on August 22, 2013, 07:21:22 PM
AH!  North Carolina is going hard-school Third World derp:

What, really? (http://abcnews.go.com/US/north-carolina-bans-latest-science-rising-sea-level/story?id=16913782)


edit:  And I just noticed that's from last year.  Better or worse?

Ack! I couldn't read more than a couple of sentences because that freaking font is painful. WTF ABC? Could someone summarize the derp?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on August 22, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
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AGGIE PRIIIIIDE!

WELL then they shouldn't name a school after him using his full name and adding Discovery Learning Education Academy School Center.


Hmof, your joke was too soon.  TOO SOON.

(http://i.imgur.com/qjo8tOU.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 23, 2013, 11:27:52 AM
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Could someone summarize the derp?

Real estate development corporations got a law passed saying that science can't be considered when new development regulations are made.  They don't want to stop building luxury homes right on the beach, or to have to change how they do it, just because apparently the sea level may rise and coastal flooding might get worse, etc.

Possibly the most important thing to take away is:  Don't buy a beach house in North Carolina.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on August 23, 2013, 04:50:26 PM
Or maybe buy one and then sell in a couple years at the top of the market and laugh as the poor sucker who buys it ends up underwater, literally and figuratively.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 23, 2013, 05:35:08 PM
What basically has to happen here is insurance companies can refuse to insure anything there. And FEMA rules change to prevent anyone living there from getting any benefits in case of disaster.

Either that or eventually FEMA will need a bigger budget than the DoD.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2013, 08:58:13 AM
Good odds are that insurance companies will let you make payments but then won't pay out.  If the rise in sea levels isn't caused by human activity, then it must be an Act of God.  GOP knows which side its bread is buttered on.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 25, 2013, 06:57:01 PM
If I'm not mistaken, insurance companies make it very difficult to buy a policy if you are on the beach side and closest to the beach.  If they give you one at all.  I don't think it's the same if you are on the sound side.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 26, 2013, 06:10:17 PM
When sea levels rise even slightly, the difference becomes moot astonishingly rapidly.

Well, we'll see. 
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on August 27, 2013, 03:01:52 PM
There are some other high-quality stories about this judge, but here's an outstanding story (http://billingsgazette.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/former-senior-high-teacher-gets-days-for-rape-of-student/article_b1f84190-ef23-5868-8799-b779c0421dc1.html).
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 04, 2013, 06:32:40 PM
Iranian President tweets "As the sun is about to set here in #Tehran I wish all Jews, especially Iranian Jews, a blessed Rosh Hashanah." (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/04/iranian-presidents-surprising-message-to-jews/)

I'm really not qualified to analyze that, but count me among the surprised and cautiously impressed.  If he keeps this up, maybe he and the new Pope can team up to fight crime.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 05, 2013, 03:47:57 PM
It's not that I'm particularly glad or sorry that Ariel Castro is dead, but, I mean, come on.  He was in protective isolative custody, and he (allegedly) managed to hang himself without anyone noticing in time to stop him.  If it's that easy to hang yourself in prison, our prisons are bullshit.

I liked this quote in the news, though:

"He was housed in protective custody which means he was in a cell by himself and rounds are required every 30 minutes at staggered intervals," JoEllen Smith of the corrections department said in a statement.

Every 30 minutes at staggered intervals?  What?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on September 05, 2013, 04:47:15 PM
yes, 60% of the time it works every time.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on September 05, 2013, 08:26:29 PM
yes, 60% of the time it works every time.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2013, 06:42:23 PM
Twenty-three years later, judge rules woman did not have a fair trial (http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/06/justice/arizona-milke-release/index.html). 

Basically, she was sentenced to death on zero evidence except a detective's claim that she confessed, to him and only to him, with no recording of it, even though she claimed otherwise.  According to the judge, the detective had a long history of lying under oath.  :nonplused:

Naturally, the DA plans to appeal this in order to send her back to prison, or possibly to death row.  Why?  Because she was convicted of a horrible crime.  Therefore she's guilty. 

Even though the judge says she should never have been convicted?  How did you even pass the bar?  Go home and don't come outside anymore, you crusty lump of chum.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on September 06, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
Surely there are some good judges out there.  Although there might not be many in Texas, Florida, Arizona (the new Florida), and Montana apparently.  There goes the dental floss ranch.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 06, 2013, 09:33:33 PM
There goes the dental floss ranch.

:galm:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 07, 2013, 02:43:25 PM
Being shot in the head after being promised to see Santa Claus has gotta suck.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 07, 2013, 02:45:06 PM
Arizona (the new Florida)

Maricopa county, especially. I don't think I'd ever heard of it ten years ago.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 07, 2013, 06:55:08 PM
Arizona (the new Florida)

Maricopa county, especially. I don't think I'd ever heard of it ten years ago.

:galm: Don't you remember when H.I. told Ed to tell her fyonce that he could be found at the Maricopa County Detention Facility for the next 8 to 14 months?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 08, 2013, 04:36:44 AM
Doesn't mean it's a real place. I still have my doubts.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on September 08, 2013, 10:28:22 AM
I say the same thing about Los Angeles.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 11, 2013, 11:56:53 AM
Exxon illegally dumped wastewater in Pennsylvania (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-11/exxon-charged-with-illegally-dumping-waste-water-in-pennsylvania.html).

Shocking!  Or, rather, exactly as critics predicted.  I do like Exxon's legal argument that attempting to enforce environmental regulations is bad for the environment.  Ah, that fine line between a vigorous defense and deserving disbarment!

Surely these corporations have earned the right to frack without onerous oversight and regulation.  They've never been associated with significant environmental issues before.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 01, 2013, 12:49:24 PM
"Leaders of the Church have often been Narcissuses, gratified and sickeningly excited by their courtiers." (http://news.asiaone.com/news/world/pope-francis-condemns-leprosy-vatican)

Consider the lilies of the field, eh, Pope Francis of Assisi?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2013, 03:56:09 PM
This whole thing with the moronic 'rapebait' frat memo . . . what bugs me about it the most -- although I'm not sure this is what ought to bug me the most -- is the way that the guy who wrote the memo is so concerned about making sure that every member of the frat has sex as often as possible with as many different women as possible. 

Dude, putting aside the issue of whether this is a good idea -- let alone such a good idea that it justifies the subcriminal bullshit you spell out in such detail -- why is this somehow your problem?  You need to take a long timeout to think about your own sexuality if you're so obsessed with this. 

You clearly have some kind of problem that doesn't even make sense.  Nothing about this qualifies as rationally or normally heterosexual.  It could be closeted behavior, but I don't think it earns the benefit of the doubt, there.  I don't think it can even be explained satisfactorily as having its roots purely in misogyny, or even dislike for other young men.  Maybe it's some kind of obsessive voyeurism that you're feeding indirectly, or some kind of massive insecurity you're indulging through proxies.

But you have a serious, clinical problem that goes well beyond your inability to view women as human beings.  You are all kinds of fucked up, treating the frat brothers as creepy sexual dolls that you bend to your will.  It's as messed up as any cult that wanders into perversion.  Just seriously wrong.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 09, 2013, 06:16:41 PM
not to mention unoriginal.

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100221235120/itsalwayssunny/images/5/57/TheDENNISSystem.png)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 10, 2013, 01:14:33 PM
That's . . . that's still a big step up, actually.

More of that Het On The Downlow stuff, though.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 15, 2013, 12:15:00 PM
Jebus, not again (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/11/alabama-man-no-prison-time-raping-teenager).

And again, and again, and again . . . .
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on November 15, 2013, 12:23:55 PM
The judge needs to be raped so that he can understand how non-violent the crime is.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 15, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
In theory, if he violates his probation he goes to prison for 20-40 years.  His lawyer argued that that was an unreasonable sentence because of He Said / She Said.  Given the difficulty of proving what happened one way or the other . . . you should have pled guilty to a lesser offense.  And not had sex with a 14-year-old.

The defense lawyer seems dickish enough that disbarment sounds OK to me.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 30, 2013, 11:57:54 AM
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Solomon White, a colored man, was the next candidate presented for the honors of rebuke or commitment.  The watchman deposed that on the night previous he found this sable namesake of him whose renown was spread over the far east gravatus vino, or, in plain English, gloriously drunk; quite above the dull cares of earth, and exhibiting to him, the said watchman, a most lordly spirit of independence, which was then most probably not the only spirit in his possession, which, by the bye, he manifested in ordering the watchman to a certain place, not to be named to ears polite.  The Mayor, after giving Solomon a severe and admonitionary caution, ordered him to be discharged.

From the police log of the Philadelphia Public Ledger, morning edition of March 25, 1836, which I picked up today for $5.  I guess a lot of police logs have always been wiseass.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 30, 2013, 12:22:52 PM
Beautiful.

TIL: 1710–20; variant spelling of "by" in its noun sense “side way”
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 22, 2013, 03:31:01 PM
Drug-sniffing dog searches are basically theater (http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/crime-courts/legal-challenge-questions-reliability-police-dogs). 

It's not a question of whether dogs are capable of detecting drug odors, yadda yadda, but whether the manner in which dogs are used by police is, you know, plausible.  Proper tests consistently show that it isn't . . . which means a K9 unit's non-invasive search (using typical procedures) should not be able to create probable cause for an invasive search.

This isn't really shocking, but it underscores a kind of widespread complicity between the courts and the police in which the police say, hey, we have this system for whatever, and the courts say . . . well, OK. 

In the 90s, there was a lot of talk of reforming the fingerprint forensic system or throwing it out altogether.  It's not that fingerprints can't identify people but that there wasn't (and maybe still isn't, I don't know) a universal and objective method for analyzing fingerprints.  All that CSI stuff basically came down to a person or approximating computer system winging it.  In many cases, fingerprinting was brilliant for identifying a suspect . . . but the feeling among many experts, both forensic and legal, was that the courts shouldn't accept it as evidence in a trial.  No sufficient scientific standards.

Ultimately, we rely on the goodwill and good behavior of the police (and the courts) to a very large extent.  That means we have to really emphasize it, though, and be strict about enforcing it when they go astray.  Otherwise . . . .
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on December 22, 2013, 04:57:40 PM
Frontline did an episode on forensic evidence (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/real-csi/) in general, and declared most of it as tainted, at the least.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 22, 2013, 05:02:21 PM
It's . . . really complicated.  But a crapton of it is bullshit, definitely.  Personally, I can't place much faith in any expert witness who always testifies for the prosecution or always for the defense.

The best experts, I think, can be identified by ones who are often hired to analyze the evidence and then sometimes not called as witnesses because their findings aren't appropriate to the side that first hired them.  (I'm not sure if discovery always covers this.  It doesn't seem to.)  Henry Lee, Michael Baden, Herb McDonald -- those kinds of guys are rock solid, I think.

But a lot of it . . . yeah, basically it just means defendants who can't afford to hire their own experts get screwed.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 22, 2013, 09:02:08 PM
The standards for evidence are supposed to be WAY higher than the standards for "confidence" in scientific terms.

There is a huge disconnect.

And people don't understand pretty much anything about how it's supposed to work.

I don't actually know what to do about it though.

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 23, 2013, 10:41:23 AM
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people don't understand pretty much anything about how it's supposed to work

The court system is pretty fucked up, but unfortunately I can't see a way to fix it without seriously increasing costs.  As things stand, every courtroom should have

(A) A legal expert whose job is to make sure that the course of justice, per se, is best followed in the interests of the public.  Judges . . . really rarely do this, and it's neither the prosecution's nor the defense's job.

(B) An expert who vets expert testimony.  Juries hear all kinds of bullshit that's flatly ridiculous.  Judges often don't know better and/or often figure that it's a problem for the lawyers, period.

Judges do occasionally step in, which is what happened in the Louise Woodward case.  She was that British nanny that was convicted of shaking the baby.  The forensic evidence indicated that she probably never harmed the baby, that there was no evidence the baby was shaken, and that the injuries that killed the baby had probably occurred roughly a month before the suspected incident.  And there was no actual evidence that the shaking incident had even occurred.  The prosecution's expert witness later decided his testimony was wrong, too.  A lot of medical examiners think Shaken-Baby Syndrome is a bullshit diagnosis.

The jury couldn't follow the expert testimony and voted to convict because the defendant said she couldn't understand how she'd hurt the baby but she felt guilty.  The judge basically overturned the jury's decision because of, you know, the evidence, but it was a rare and controversial move.  (The judge wasn't sure one way or the other if Woodward might have harmed the baby to any degree.)  In fact, the decision was almost overturned by the state supreme court.

And Woodward's lead attorney was Barry Scheck, who's supposed to be one of the very best at using expert testimony.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 25, 2013, 04:52:35 PM
McDonald's website advises employees not to eat at McDonald's (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/25/living/mcdonalds-employee-site/index.html).

McDonald's website subsequently shut down.  :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2014, 10:42:45 AM
OK, so there's this horrible story about a three-year-old in Hawaii who died after a dental procedure (http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/04/justice/hawaii-girl-dead/index.html).

What really struck me about the story:

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Finley's mother, Ashley Boyle, said she first took her daughter to the dentist in November, when she was told her daughter needed six fillings and four root canals, she said.

Really.  A three-year-old needed four root canals?  I know that premature loss of baby teeth can mean additional intervention is needed when the adult teeth are ready to come in, but there's WAY too much of this kind of thing.  The ADA needs to get serious.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: vox8 on January 06, 2014, 01:54:04 PM
Anytime anyone goes under general anesthetic there is a risk of death. For ANYONE. With children this is elevated because of their smaller body mass and need for more precise balancing of medication.

When we were working on getting Emans pituitary issue figured out they had to sedate him for the MRI, I was a basket case. I cannot imagine putting such a young child under sedation for an extended period of time for a dental issue. I would rather have a 4 yr old with dentures than a dead child.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2014, 02:19:38 PM
I know!  Ye gods.  Hard to tell, but all the articles I've seen suggest this was an anethesia screw-up.  Lots of pediatric dentists recommend sedation for various procedures, but often it's done at a hospital specifically because it's non-trivial.

Two of my nephews had bad teeth (it's kind of a theme in my gene pool) and had huge amounts of decay when they were still toddlers.  They had some teeth extracted and a couple of fillings in their molars, but nothing extensive.  I'm tempted to email my sister and find out if there were any complications when their adult teeth came in.

For me and my brother, the roots of our baby teeth tended not to dissolve, so our adult teeth had some difficulty coming in, anyway.  I had ten baby teeth pulled by the dentist because they weren't coming out on their own.  My brother had worse issues, too.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 27, 2014, 02:13:12 PM
SO messed-up.  Native woman writing thesis on missing and murdered Native women goes missing, is found murdered (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/halifax-police-find-body-of-missing-university-student-loretta-saunders-1.1705250).

Effing hell.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Talix on February 27, 2014, 02:54:30 PM
Right? And her roommates are the ones they're holding, so it's not even like some demented Men's Rights Activist was trying to shut her up. It's just another example for her thesis, which oh yeah, won't get written, because she's dead.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on February 27, 2014, 06:27:57 PM
Not only will the thesis not get written, the story now goes through the media blender for total obfuscation. A blonde-haired, blue-eyed Inuk, 3 months pregnant and on methadone, is killed by her roommates, a couple who look like the main characters of Natural Born Killers.

Although it's possible the attention created by the media may unintentionally draw attention to the plight of the missing and murdered.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on February 27, 2014, 06:30:23 PM
 :(

That's pretty dark, isn't it? Sorry.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Talix on February 28, 2014, 09:39:07 AM
Happens.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Talix on February 28, 2014, 09:40:25 AM
Wait a minute - she was writing a thesis on methadone and pregnant? Impressive.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 10, 2014, 03:14:21 PM
Kaiser tops poll of health insurers in CA: BC/BS last (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-health-plan-customer-satisfaction-20140310,0,4155084.story).

Yep. There's a surprise. Not.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 10, 2014, 05:34:30 PM
Kaiser was the most expensive in the exchange. They've sent me direct mail about the exchange, and were the only company to do so. I'm not sure what to make of that.

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 10, 2014, 06:00:58 PM
:hmm: Could mean they've got their shit together, or it could mean they're evil. :shrug:

I've been on Kaiser as a kid, and subscribed for a while when we moved back to the states. They've always been "too big" but some of the others are probably WAY too big. AFAIK they're still an HMO - they invented the whole HMO concept, I believe - so the costs include mandatory preventive care, etc - I don't know if that's still true everywhere, but you basically had to go to one of their facilities. I guess I'm incoherently saying that yeah, they're more expensive, but it may be you get more service. Or not.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on March 11, 2014, 12:38:10 AM
:hmm: Could mean they've got their shit together, or it could mean they're evil. :shrug:

I've been on Kaiser as a kid, and subscribed for a while when we moved back to the states. They've always been "too big" but some of the others are probably WAY too big. AFAIK they're still an HMO - they invented the whole HMO concept, I believe - so the costs include mandatory preventive care, etc - I don't know if that's still true everywhere, but you basically had to go to one of their facilities. I guess I'm incoherently saying that yeah, they're more expensive, but it may be you get more service. Or not.

Kaiser and UHC are our choices.  UHC is more expensive but our Speech and OT providers for Ian (although not in network for UHC but still covered at in network $30 copay)  With Kaiser we'd have to pay co-insurance which would effectively make our out of pocket around $100 per visit at 200 visits a year.  So in effect Kaiser would be much more expensive for us.  My parents have Kaiser and I had it as a kid.  Very well run as far as the providers go.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 11, 2014, 02:00:51 PM
The ACA apparently really is shaking some stuff up.  A lot of companies around here (or in terms of their policies for this area) decided not to enter the Exchange.  But a bunch of them are seeing their value drop like a rock -- the forecast is that a ton of businesses will do what we did, cancel group policy and pay the employees a bit more so they can go get insurance individually now.  The Exchange might force most health insurance policies to become cheaper and reduce employer-paid plans.

Upper-bracket white-collar employees will probably still get insurance through their employers, though, since it's a major class of benefit.  I guess.  Plans through the Exchange are typically less profitable, but some companies are seeing a ton of new customers.  I imagine the actuaries are busy.

Headline today was that 39% of people support Obamacare.  Article actually said 55% support it, plus ~%10 don't support it because it doesn't go far enough.  It's more popular than the media suggests, but it's a better story if it's a fiasco, so they'll keep playing that for awhile.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 13, 2014, 10:45:22 AM
Craziness about Detroit-area rape kits (http://www.wxyz.com/news/100-serial-rapists-identified-after-rape-kits-from-detroit-crime-lab-are-finally-processed).

tl;dr:  In 2009, over 10k untested rape kits were found in an abandoned Detroit Police storage facility.  A prosecutor has been trying to get them tested; she got help from Mariska Hargitay of L&O: SVU fame.  Now they've gotten about 1600 of the kits tested, "resulting in the identification of about 100 serial rapists and ten convicted rapists".
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 13, 2014, 01:35:11 PM
I was curious if cost was the issue, so I searched trying to find an answer. Memphis has a 12,000 backlog, and they estimate the cost to be $6.5 million, so $540 each?

Wikipedia says (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_test_kit):
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...many jurisdictions up until then refused to pay the estimated $800 cost of the rape examination...

But I think that's just the cost of the medical exam by the hospital. Seems like there needs to be some kind of national clearinghouse where the kits can be sent to be processed.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 13, 2014, 02:24:46 PM
In most places, they're processed by independent (ie, commercial for-profit) labs.  The high cost is often cited, and labs are sometimes accused of price-gouging.  A simple paternity-level DNA test can absolutely be done commercially for under $100.  I'd like to think that for a felony case the same sample would be tested twice, independently and blind, but my impression is that that doesn't happen.

Of course, there are so many untested cases (and not just rape evidence) that presumably if more testing were done, more labs would spring up.  It's important to get this stuff right, but it's not rocket science.  Obviously, by the time they have the kit in an evidence locker, the hospital part has already been done, so its cost is fait accompli.

Does the FBI have a national sex offender database?  They've had one for tracking convicted sex offenders for like 20 years, but I don't know if they have one for perps who haven't been caught yet.  Seems like the kind of thing they do, but I don't know.



Probably more to the point, FAR more money is spent on drug interdiction.  Far more is spent chasing pot, I'm sure.  Crazy more money.  Rapists who aren't caught are hugely likely to assault someone else, which is why they've already identified 100 serial rapists.  I suspect what the article actually means is that they tested 1600 kits and found that they had multiple hits for over 100 perps, not that they necessarily know who all those perps are.  It means the same rapists had untested samples from multiple victims, in just a small proportion of the untested kits. 

That's a lot of horrible felony assaults that could have been prevented if the evidence had been tested in the first place.  To be fair, a lot of those kits are so old that testing was a lot more expensive and harder to admit in court at the time, but . . . come on.

If Memphis's backlog is over, say, just ten years, that would come to $650k per year.  According to Wikipedia, the Memphis annual police budget is almost $200 million.  So they don't seem to have any viable excuse.  :huh:

Not that I'm saying you were trying to excuse it.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on March 13, 2014, 07:11:37 PM
(https://lh3.ggpht.com/-eVrb-fJDY0s/UDJl1ctyCdI/AAAAAAAAGh4/cSpoaA2Ouaw/s1600/40+lb+box+of+rape+taped+shut+dr+heckle+funny+wtf+pictures.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 13, 2014, 07:52:43 PM
G?


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Joyful Heart’s cooperation with Detroit is funded by the National Institute of Justice. That effort has led to the testing of 1,500 kits so far, and 700 DNA profiles have been entered into a national database that aims to match them to known suspects.

“Just the first pass, we got over 400 hits,” said Mary DuFour Morrow, a Detroit prosecutor who spoke via speakerphone during the meeting at City Hall Tuesday morning. “Most of those hits were to named offenders — and about 100 of those hits were to known serial offenders.”

I should have linked the article to begin with:
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2014/feb/12/backlog-rape-kits-cost-memphis-65m-take-5-years-te/
The quote is actually from the link in the first paragraph.

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Not that I'm saying you were trying to excuse it.

No, of course. I was just trying to understand what they (cops, gov, whatever) could possibly use as a defense against not processing the kits. It's incomprehensible. One excuse that I saw somewhere (to even administering the test itself) claimed that the tests were being abused, that women were claiming to have been raped just to get a free pregnancy test, or to get the morning-after pill. I swear I'm not making that up.

off topic: I'm kind of amazed how well that site works without any JavaScript. You don't see that too often these days. You should see what the one you linked looks like without JavaScript. Bizzaro.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on March 13, 2014, 10:16:17 PM
The white male legislators are rarely the rapees.  You'd think a joint venture of the Justice Department and CDC, NIH, etc. could do this much more efficiently and be a much better spend of tax money than subsidies to the coal companies, defense contracts to tanks that the military doesn't even want, etc.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 14, 2014, 02:01:25 PM
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You should see what the one you linked looks like without JavaScript.

:lol: because that's how I viewed it.  No JS for me, bitches!  I'm kind of used to navigating that kind of broken-ass HTML, though.


The main problem is that the cops know that if it isn't a serial case, the odds of a conviction are (or historically were) shockingly low.  Prosecutors often don't bother, or they try to talk the complainants out of it, or they take a simple assault as a plea, etc.  Even up through the 90s, sex crimes were really ridiculously hard to get convictions on.  So the cops tended not to feel like bothering, and nobody in management wanted to make them.  They'd say, oh, go get a restraining order.

If you want to feel outraged about it, the Andrea Vacchs book I talked about recently is a good primer.  She basically headed up one of the first Special Victims Units in New York, and constantly she had judges shutting her down, juries not understanding why a victim hadn't fought harder, zero help from the DA, yadda yadda.  She had judges try to shut down incest rape cases on the grounds that it was a family matter.

I don't mean to sound all that, but there remains a powerfully pervasive notion, especially among men of power, that women largely exist to be penetrated, and the rest is basically fussy He Said / She Said details.  What's weird and creepy is how blatant this philosophy often is among cops, DAs, judges, politicians, etc.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 04, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pMfOe2S.jpg)

God DAMN.  I would have moved to the EU if they'd upheld this.

I can't help imagining how much more satisfying all those petty bureaucratic bullshit fuck-ups would be.  Granted, they'd hire gladiators like they hire lawyers, but, hell, it would be satisfying just to get beaten instead of, you know, having my property tax exemption rejected every year without explanation.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on May 04, 2014, 07:12:20 PM
Wouldn't it be nice, upon entering the DMV, to be asked to choose your weapon?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on May 04, 2014, 07:18:50 PM
Maybe, but I think he wanted it to be to the death. I'd rather pay the fine, myself.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 05, 2014, 08:59:51 AM
I think I might have the edge in a to-the-death.  I might be more tempted.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on July 15, 2014, 08:54:11 PM
http://madcowmoo.tumblr.com/post/91902113843/human-beings-dont-have-a-right-to-water

I haven't read the included references. I'm... annoyed, overall. The UN, I thought, declared resources to be for all humanity at one point, and even included the moon Luna. So now capitalism gets to trump that?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 15, 2014, 11:10:19 PM
http://www.neworderworld.com/food-growing-gmo-industry/

politics is an ugly, ugly business and needs to change. it's a piss poor system to have greedy, corruptible people in charge of making decisions which effect the general population.

as long as corporations can keep hiring lobbyists to bribe the people that vote for our best interest it will never change.

as long as there's a man or woman who's willing to sell their vote it will never change.

parties are irrelevant. man is simply too greedy and corruptible.

it's too bad and it will lead to our downfall.

*oh, i only linked that site for the image. i'm not a militant vegas. i'm pretty much not militant anything. i do think getting a dog is a good stress reliever.

i should have just linked this: http://lerablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/brands.jpg
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 16, 2014, 09:43:52 AM
:applause:

(still trying to come to grips with "militant vegas" but I belatedly realized it could be autocorrect and not related to where you live)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 16, 2014, 11:14:11 AM
vegan

i've heard citizens of our city called both.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 16, 2014, 01:38:48 PM
The water issue . . . I said this elsewhere, but:

The idea that the Nestle's guy is espousing is terrible, but I don't think that he or most of his detractors really understand why it's so bad. 

His position is basically that this is a game, albeit a very important one, and Nestle's is playing the game well, so they're the ones who have the most rights.  They bought that water, and their ownership is legit, so it's not their fault or their problem that people who can't afford the water want it.

The opposing position is mostly that (A) the game is stupid and rigged, and (B) people are more important than the game.

Both positions are arguable, but the first one, the Nestle's one, is the stupid one.  Most people who take the Nestle's position don't even try to argue that the game is fair, only that it's not their fault that it isn't.

But here's the thing.  The Nestle's argument, the pro-game argument, is really just Might Makes Right.  It's arguing that ethics are governed by what society will enforce, and nothing else.  And that means that if society rises up against Nestle's, then Nestle's has no recourse.  So if enough people demand it, public executions of Nestle's executives, for being dickholes, would be perfectly ethical. 

It would mean that the rich have no fundamental right to their wealth, and that they only have it so long as the rules of the game don't change.  And it's society's game.  So they're idiots to piss off the masses.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on July 16, 2014, 02:19:34 PM
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120427144330/simpsons/images/b/bc/Slant_drilling.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 16, 2014, 02:27:29 PM
:lol:  That, too.  People who are big believers in the game tend to believe that anything they can get away with is, de facto, implicitly permitted.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 19, 2014, 08:54:04 AM
Does Paul Begala like Dick Cheney?  No, he does not (http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/opinion/begala-dick-cheney-lies/index.html).  :lol:

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As an American, I am appalled by Dick Cheney and his relentless, pathetic and ultimately doomed effort to revise the history of his failures.

But as a Democrat, I am thrilled that an incompetent, dishonest and reviled figure is hell-bent on making himself the face of the Republican Party

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One can debate whether Cheney's misstatements were the result of willful mendacity or incompetence. I believe the former. But at a deeper level, it does not matter.

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Were it not for the tragedies of 9/11 and Iraq, perhaps the thing Cheney would be remembered for was that he was the second vice president to shoot a man

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3473029/vw-oh-snap-o.gif)

Bonus:  Calls him a "sociopath" twice.

He's like a Fox News guy from the Mirror, Mirror track.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 20, 2014, 02:24:38 PM
Headline today:  Tiger Woods finishes near bottom

TOO EASY  :whatever:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on July 21, 2014, 12:38:06 PM
Next step, far bottom.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 26, 2014, 11:11:28 AM
I am honestly at the point where I'm surprised people on Fbook aren't blaming Israel for what's been happening in Chicago.

Seriously, Chicago.  Fix it.  I'm not one to quickly reach for martial law, but WTF.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 31, 2014, 10:01:19 AM
Pope's Late Night Top 10 Tips For Being Happy (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/pope-francis-issues-top-10-tips-for-happiness--including-dont-try-to-convert-other-people-9639488.html)

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the worst thing of all is religious proselytism

Demonstrate the value of your religion by example, not by trying to talk people into thinking it's awesome, he says.

:hmm:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2014, 10:07:25 AM
Quote from: CNN
"The Pope is not free to change the church's teachings with regard to the immorality of homosexual acts or the insolubility of marriage or any other doctrine of the faith," [Cardinal] Burke told Buzzfeed recently.

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But he was reassigned to the position of Patron of the Order of Malta, the Vatican announced on Saturday. The National Catholic Reporter points out that Burke's new post is a job that "has almost no responsibilities."

Put THAT in your Pope and smoke it, bitch.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on November 10, 2014, 11:30:41 AM
 :detta: It's good to be the king Pope.

Professional Darwinism - it's not just for the laity anymore.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 02, 2014, 11:46:25 AM
Chris Rock interview (http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/01/politics/chris-rock-obama/index.html).

CNN link, but you can google the interview if you hate CNN and/or their crap website.  That's the I Have Three Minutes version.

Longer original version (http://www.vulture.com/2014/11/chris-rock-frank-rich-in-conversation.html) at New York magazine, although I couldn't get it to ever finish loading.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on December 02, 2014, 02:14:18 PM
He's no dummy.

He has really aged. That picture on New York is brutal.

I was going to paste the text, but it's too long.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 10, 2015, 02:22:31 PM
Relatively local madness (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2015/01/it_was_unreal_witness_describe.html#incart_river)

Here, more than in other states I've driven in or through, there is NO consensus at any time as to how fast you should be driving.  It's bad enough in June, but in the winter it truly becomes crazy.

Fireworks truck on fire, though.  That'll liven up a huge pileup.  Final count of smashed vehicles, as of this morning:  193.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 10, 2015, 05:21:18 PM
Holy shit. I went looking for video, and the first one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9fI5M6_XVk) was enough. That's hard to watch.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: vox8 on January 11, 2015, 12:22:25 PM
As I have always said when people make fun of Atlantans for not being able to "drive on snow" nobody can drive on ice. 
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 11, 2015, 01:03:25 PM
Well.  The Finns can.  But most of them around here are in the UP.

The number one issue is usually someone who isn't driving carefully enough for the conditions wrecks it for everyone else.  Most SUVs are literally just duded-up minivans with big wheels, but they make a lot of people think they can drive well in the snow.  Fortunately, most SUVs nowadays have traction control and ABS and all that, which is a good start, but if you're in the snow going fifteen miles an hour too fast, and something goes wrong, you are out of luck.

Highways are chain-reaction-pileup machines, although statistically it isn't much of a problem.  Drivers drive with the assumption that rare occurrences won't occur.  (Go figure.)  They tend to drive as if the traffic ahead of them can't even hit the brakes hard, since that almost never happens. 

Subconsciously, they're expecting that maybe the traffic ahead will slow down by 10 or even 15 MPH, pretty gradually.  In a pileup, the traffic ahead slows down by 50-75 MPH really, really quickly.  Almost anyone will then drive into the back of the pileup.  To avoid it, you have to either be prepared for it or be lucky and have a good, long line of sight to what's happening.

Around here, most roads still haven't really been cleaned -- this winter -- because of budget woes.  Roads that have schools on them are generally clear, and some major roads, although mostly because of traffic gradually grinding the snow away.  It's pretty goddamned slippery, though, and even though you'd think people here expect that in the winter . . . .
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on January 11, 2015, 11:40:34 PM
I was taught (oh, way too long ago) to try to keep 5 seconds between cars on the freeway. Nowadays, if I can keep a full second clear I'm ecstatic.  :nuts:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on March 10, 2015, 10:54:51 PM
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/file-charges-against-47-us-senators-violation-logan-act-attempting-undermine-nuclear-agreement/NKQnpJS9

Started Sunday, and it's already over the 100,000 threshold. I realize it won't happen in reality (they'd vote to gut the budget of whoever tried). But can I just imagine the faces if it were? Maybe a special edition of COPS?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 11, 2015, 09:43:28 AM
Oooh . . . not bad.  Start another one petitioning them to all resign for being traitors to the US.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on March 11, 2015, 12:21:16 PM
can anyone site one example of one of these petitions working?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 11, 2015, 12:57:37 PM
I doubt it.  I just like the public embarrassment angle.

Maybe we could start a petition to have petitions taken more seriously.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on March 11, 2015, 03:06:16 PM
The press office did comment on the creation of a Death Star quite well, but generally they're poor electrons shoved around for no use at all. Like Axe, I'm more looking at the embarrassment angle for this one.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on March 11, 2015, 06:47:36 PM
I doubt it.  I just like the public embarrassment angle.

Maybe we could start a petition to have petitions taken more seriously.

I would support a petition to start such a petition.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: vox8 on March 11, 2015, 09:01:06 PM
I doubt it.  I just like the public embarrassment angle.

Maybe we could start a petition to have petitions taken more seriously.

I would support a petition to start such a petition.

I would join the committee to draft a proposal to create a petition supporting the creation of such a petition.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on March 11, 2015, 11:04:43 PM
I get right on that after I file my petition to end procrastination.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 12, 2015, 05:08:05 AM
I'll try to get around to setting aside some time to ponder thinking about this.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on March 14, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
We should have a meeting to discuss that petition proposal.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 23, 2015, 09:38:54 AM
Democrats AND Republicans openly mock and laugh at Florida's chief of diaster planning for not being allowed to say "climate change" (http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/video-watch-scotts-disaster-chief-refuse-to-say-climate-change-in-hearing-7548413).

Farking.  Gold.

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"I used 'climate change,' but I'm suggesting as a state we might use 'atmospheric reemployment.'"

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 23, 2015, 09:46:37 AM
OOF.  FEMA to deny mitigation funds to states whose governors deny climate change (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20150322_FEMA_to_deny_funds_to_warming_deniers.html).

Won't admit it's real?  Fine.  You don't get money to deal with it.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 23, 2015, 11:14:10 AM
*eyes roll out of head*
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 23, 2015, 01:51:38 PM
Oh good, that smarmy douchebag Cruz is running for president. Let that be an end to him.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 23, 2015, 02:01:49 PM
Jon Stewart may have to renege on his decision to leave.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 24, 2015, 09:30:07 AM
He should be tard and feathered.


/ sorry, sorry
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 31, 2015, 11:03:02 AM
Movie stars had tunnels from their houses to the Playboy Club (http://ca.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/03/jack-nicholson-and-other-celebs-had-tunnels-from-their-homes-to-the-playboy-mansion).

I have a mixed reaction to this.  On the one hand, this is an unusually good use of obscene wealth.  On the other hand, I despise the Playboy Club.  If it had been a different club . . . .
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on March 31, 2015, 01:48:40 PM
Like a Workgirl club?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 31, 2015, 02:02:36 PM
Yeah, nah, I don't think so.  :bullshit:

That link to the Playboy page has more. Pretty sure it's some kind of elaborate gag.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 31, 2015, 02:51:11 PM
I'm hoping not.  It'd be better as a true story than as a gag.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 31, 2015, 06:00:00 PM
Well the blueprints looked bogus - no date, the type looked wrong for that era, they showed two inch thick concrete walls, which is possible, but I wouldn't expect it to pass in California. The pictures didn't really show much that couldn't be something else.

It's believable though. The Playboy empire was still pretty strong then, maybe at the peak of their power, and those actors were crazy enough.

I wonder if the reddit investigative team is on it?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 11, 2015, 03:10:05 PM
George Zimmerman, back in Florida, reportedly shot in the face in a road rage incident.  Not serious injured, from what I hear.

I'm just waiting to hear how he blames Obama this time.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on May 11, 2015, 06:41:55 PM
shot in the face ...  Not serious injured

 :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 12, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Nothing of value was destroyed.

Now they say that the other guy missed, and Zimmerman was hit by glass from his car window as the bullet went through.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on June 22, 2015, 05:10:12 AM
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TURIN, Italy, June 21 (Reuters) - People who manufacture weapons or invest in weapons industries are hypocrites if they call themselves Christian, Pope Francis said on Sunday.

They are so going to take this dude out. It's just a matter of time.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 22, 2015, 08:12:16 AM
It's kind of weird that it's kind of weird for the Pope to be so specifically Christian.  Even John Paul II: Electric Boogaloo wasn't this Christian.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 25, 2015, 09:22:46 AM
Pope Crushes Weak Boehner

Seriously.  They had a private talk, and Boehner announced he was leaving Congress.

:shock:

Best Pope Ever.  :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 25, 2015, 09:47:08 AM
 :lol:

:clap:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on September 25, 2015, 10:40:10 AM
I'm stunned.

I can't figure out the implications for a potential shutdown. (Yes, I have a personal bias here.)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 25, 2015, 12:34:41 PM
Apparently Boehner's going to stay up until Halloween.  He'll stick around to enjoy the shutdown fracas, and then he'll pull out.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on September 25, 2015, 02:02:45 PM
I wonder if the Boehner is going to find a brand new bag?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on September 28, 2015, 03:32:20 PM
Well, at least Boehner didn't get sacked.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 29, 2015, 09:25:48 AM
No, he's taking his balls and going home.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 30, 2015, 03:17:01 PM
He's quitting on Halloween :jack:

This means they're gonna stick a candle in his empty orange head and plop it on the Capitol steps
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 30, 2015, 03:43:21 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on September 30, 2015, 05:19:02 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cAmx9IZ.gif)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 30, 2015, 05:42:05 PM
All glory to the Hypnoboehn.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 30, 2015, 06:08:40 PM
Terrifying! You get to keep all the candy this year :detta:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 01, 2015, 05:06:40 PM
do you want to play with my balls? (https://www.facebook.com/mediatakeout/videos/1019820774716536/)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 01, 2015, 06:14:27 PM
Not clicking on that.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 01, 2015, 07:57:55 PM
you really should, it's pretty funny.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 01, 2015, 09:39:39 PM
Okay, okay, it's not pdrake's balls afterall. Still, NSFWish.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/858138965/do-you-want-to-play-with-my-balls?

They took in $47k from kickstarter, and then they're selling the books for $15 each. I wonder how much they'll make. I guess there's a risk somebody may try to legally harass them though.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on October 02, 2015, 12:25:45 AM
nobody wants to see my balls.

why would anyone legally harass them?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 02, 2015, 05:19:28 AM
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why would anyone legally harass them?

Seriously? 5 million views on FB with that baiting heading:

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DISTURBING VIDEO: This Is A REAL Children's Book . . . Being Sold To CHILDREN . . . Parents PLEASE Make Sure That Your SCHOOL Isn't Using This BOOK!! (Wow . . . They Are Really Trying To INDOCTRINATE Kids)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 02, 2015, 09:12:52 AM
Quote
why would anyone legally harass them?

Fun, profit, prudishness, fame, repressed sexual urges, insanity?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: phyre on October 28, 2015, 10:35:36 AM
Drop the Bigly Important Funk (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/10/presidential_hopefuls_reimagined_as_music_stars.html)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 03, 2016, 12:48:24 PM
Woman gradually robs bank over 15 years (http://www.kgw.com/news/feds-woman-stuffed-19-million-in-purse-over-15-years/9805662)

You'd think they'd have procedures in place to avoid this kind of thing.  And to detect it.  I mean . . . come on.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 03, 2016, 05:29:50 PM
It's good to see her son had enough initiative to start his own business, and didn't mooch off her.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 04, 2016, 11:13:08 AM
I admit that I was way more sympathetic to her misdeeds until she tried to blame the unexplained income on her son's drug dealing.  That seems cold.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 14, 2016, 01:57:46 PM
Father and son chumlumps in Utah kidnap woman and her four daughters, attempt to tie them up in basement (http://fox13now.com/2016/05/11/mother-daughters-escape-utah-home-after-tied-up-in-basement/).  Two of the girls escape briefly, return to slap the gun away and overpower the two men, take baseball bat away from them.

I really hope the cops mock these guys when they catch them.  And let's have a parade for the girls.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on May 14, 2016, 03:10:53 PM
Quote
Authorities said Flint's wife told them he lives in Wyoming and that he had said he "did not want to go back to prison" and would "shoot [at] any officers and go out in a blaze of glory [dead]."
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on May 15, 2016, 11:43:40 AM
Apparently he already surrendered, and then his son followed suit when he found out they'd caught Dad.

Also apparently, the daughters were acquaintances of the son, and the father and son kidnapped the lot because they'd heard the women were going to tell the cops about their drug activities, and they hoped to persuade them not to.

Anytime you're committing a bigger crime to hide a previous crime, it is a sign from the universe that you are not a master criminal and should perhaps just stay home and watch TV.  Maybe we should have PSAs to that effect.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2016, 12:13:13 PM
I originally saw this story through UPI, but I can't find a link now, so here's a less than optimal version, but it gets the full concept across:

Bus driver rapes 15-year-old student, admits it, gets no jail time (http://www.inquisitr.com/3337473/a-tennessee-school-bus-driver-admitted-to-raping-a-student-will-serve-no-jail-time/).

I thought this story was going to get more attention.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on July 24, 2016, 03:36:27 PM
That's the first I've heard of it. There definitely seems to be something missing from the story. The prosecutor didn't even seek jail time.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on July 25, 2016, 09:22:40 AM
Prosecutor was like, "Oh, he's been in jail for 100 days during arraignment, etc, and that seems good."

Dude's a school bus driver who kidnapped a 15-year-old girl, raped her extensively, panicked when the police started looking for her, and dumped her in the middle of nowhere.  Told her to walk home and threatened her with malice if she told anyone.

But, you know, no harm done.  WTF?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on July 25, 2016, 09:42:58 AM
Yeah, I don't get it, even in Tennessee, and even if the victim is not white. It still sounds unbelievable.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 08, 2016, 06:26:48 PM
The Wells Fargo thing (http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/08/investing/wells-fargo-created-phony-accounts-bank-fees/index.html) just blows my mind.

And it's like Wells Fargo and the government are both, "Nothing to see here, move along..."
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 09, 2016, 02:44:58 PM
Hey, they fired 5300 bad apples!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 09, 2016, 03:24:20 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 15, 2016, 03:05:55 PM
Police in Florida and other states are building up private DNA databases, in part by collecting voluntary samples from people not charged with — or even suspected of — any particular crime.  (https://www.propublica.org/article/dna-dragnet-in-some-cities-police-go-from-stop-and-frisk-to-stop-and-spit)

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...some jurisdictions also have quietly begun asking people to turn over DNA voluntarily during traffic stops, or even during what amount to chance encounters with police.

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Automated “Rapid DNA” machines allow police to analyze DNA right at the station in a mere 90 minutes. Some states allow “familial searching” of databases, which can identify people with samples from family members. New software can even create composite mugshots of suspects using DNA to guess at skin and eye color.

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Since 2007, the District Attorney’s office in Orange County, California, has offered certain non-violent offenders the chance to have their charges dismissed in exchange for contributing cheek swabs to a special separate DNA database — a “spit and acquit” program, as the local media nicknamed it.

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Bode Cellmark Forensics charges about $100 to $150 a swab — little enough for cops to swab everything from the steering wheel of a stolen car to the nozzle of a spray-paint can used for vandalism — and boasts a 30-day turnaround time for results.

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on September 15, 2016, 04:07:39 PM
i imagine they get spit on a lot.

that's about the only way they'd get it voluntarily from me.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 16, 2016, 05:26:20 AM
I don't know. Given the choice of spending the night in the metro jail, being 'held' for 24 hours, or submitting to the swab, I might give in. That's the way this might end up being used - along with the rest of the scare tactics they use to get what they want. When you can hear the inmates hollering in the background, your perspective changes.

These young kids that are submitting don't realize how long they are going to regret that move.

The Supreme Court will eventually shut this down, but it will be years before it happens.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 16, 2016, 06:44:53 PM
I know one or two things about this sort of analysis, and I can tell you for a fact these databases are going to be piles of shit. There will be a lot of wrongful convictions.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 17, 2016, 11:05:43 AM
Yeah, that.

When I was a kid, the police tried to convince parents to have their kids fingerprinted.  Their explanations of why never made a whole lot of sense.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 19, 2016, 09:33:40 AM
OK, this shit's gone too far.

I would like a filter that blocks all stock photos in news stories.  I don't know what software 'news' companies are using to select stock images for stories where they don't have an actual relevant picture, but enough already.  I can only stand so much incompetence and stupidity.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 19, 2016, 03:35:53 PM
...I don't know what software 'news' companies are using to select stock images for stories where they don't have an actual relevant picture...

I think it's called "Google Image Search".

Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 20, 2016, 09:24:37 AM
Man, that would be sad. 

They pick from giant libraries of stock photos licensed to media companies, so hopefully those come with their own search engines, or some goddamned thing.  But way too often it'll be a story like ODDLY MUSTACHED BIRD MAN JUGGLES CHILDREN NEAR BURNING WOOD CHIPPER ON RIVER BOAT and there will be a helpful stock image of a child, in case you were confused about that part.

Like . . . just don't bother.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 21, 2016, 02:12:55 PM
Sometimes I want to have a stock photo account so I can perform these searches and see what comes up.


Also? I want to seed stock photo databases with pictures of burning woodchippers
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on September 21, 2016, 03:03:01 PM
we have a stock photo account. if you ever need anything, just ask. ours is with shutterstock.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 21, 2016, 07:00:30 PM
I forget the name of it, but there's a subreddit that's just for weird stock photos, most of which have official titles that simply describe what's in the photo.

I think the key is that if you want to sell a photo to a stock photo library, it has to be a photo of something they don't already have.  Kind of a fascinating situation, in fact.

But the result is that people can turn up endless lists of insane photos that are stored just in case a subscriber ever needs a photo of a woman lying in bed with dirt on her face and M&Ms piled on her chest, or a man eating a book with a runcible spoon, or two children carrying a taxidermied donkey wearing a party hat.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 21, 2016, 07:47:54 PM
I forget the name of it, but there's a subreddit that's just for weird stock photos, most of which have official titles that simply describe what's in the photo.

They have individual bots that crawl reddit looking for particular type images, and then the bot posts it in its own subreddit dedicated to that type of image. I can't think of what they're called at the moment, so I can't find them.

They also have subreddits that are comprised of only bots talking to each other, which is basically like a bunch of spam.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on September 21, 2016, 08:02:36 PM
Images: https://www.reddit.com/r/imagesofnetwork/wiki/faqandinstructions

Bots talking to bots: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on September 21, 2016, 09:39:59 PM
I, for one, welcome our new machine overlords.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on September 22, 2016, 09:15:58 AM
So far it's mostly machine underlords, but they're getting there.

Here's the one I was probably thinking of, or very similar:  WTF Stock Photos (https://www.reddit.com/r/wtfstockphotos/).
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2016, 12:06:01 PM
Here's some crazy shit:

Wrong-way driver kills five teenagers in Vermont highway crash (http://www.wcax.com/story/33349567/multiple-people-killed-in-interstate-crash)

Oh, but then he stole the police SUV from the first cop to arrive at the scene, took off down the highway -- and then turned around and came back up the highway (going the wrong way again) and smashed into the vehicles stopped at the original accident scene.

Eyewitness account (http://www.wcax.com/story/33349912/eyewitness-tells-channel-3-about-deadly-crash-that-killed-5-teens)

In all, he destroyed two vehicles in the process of hitting eight other vehicles.  Naturally, the driver was not seriously injured.  They aren't saying yet if he was drunk or what.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 09, 2016, 03:09:06 PM
They aren't saying yet if he was drunk or what.

With that level of crazy, I'd be really surprised if there wasn't some type of substance involved.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 10, 2016, 09:29:08 AM
Apparently he was flung out of the police SUV when he hit the crashed-into vehicles the second time.  Still not seriously hurt.  Sounds like booze.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 10, 2016, 02:54:17 PM
I was thinking maybe a combination of booze, amphetamines, and stupid.

One of the articles I saw said he was in critical condition, but also said something like, "he wasn't immobilized" or something odd like that... maybe that was the Daily Mail article.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 11, 2016, 09:06:06 AM
It's not unusual to read three different news stories and see three different "conditions" listed.  Cops and hospitals often give different accounts on that, and frankly it depends who a reporter talks to at a hospital.  Often the hospital won't say, and the reporter just pretends.

I know, I know, but that's how it goes.  Years and years ago, one of those wankathon news stories on news stories had a TV crew go interview a hospital administrator -- at Mass General, I think it was -- and he said that (A) the hospital didn't have any official "serious condition" / "critical condition" / etc scale, and (B) doctors don't have time to assign a patient a condition code suitable for the media, and (C) the hospital's policy was not to give out information like that to reporters anyway.

It was mildly awkward.  :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 11, 2016, 09:41:13 AM
I just looked to see if there were any updates and scanned a few news stories, and I have to say, the more I read, the more confused I get about what the hell happened.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 11, 2016, 10:37:06 AM
Yeah, Stoater posted one to Fbook that had more info and didn't help.  :shrug:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 11, 2016, 10:37:30 AM
MEANWHILE

http://alabamaobserver.com/alabama-man-suspected-of-creating-real-life-human-centipede-on-the-run/


Um . . . WAT.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 11, 2016, 10:38:51 AM
Oh, OK, then (http://www.snopes.com/alabama-man-suspected-of-creating-real-life-human-centipede/).
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on October 11, 2016, 02:42:44 PM
Whenever I see or hear Alabama Man, I remember this South Park Parody Commercial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zjWXlhxYLY)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 11, 2016, 03:09:38 PM
 :lol: Southpark should do more fake commercials.

Alarms were definitely going off as I was reading that article. I stopped reading the article a couple times to look around the page for clues - like to see if the titles to the other stories were just as bizarre. The "Alabama Observer" title and font looked wrong right from the beginning, but after reading the whole article, I was beginning to believe it was for real. That's the first time I've ever seen a site set up like that for clicks. I wonder how much they stand to make off that, assuming the story went viral?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 11, 2016, 03:24:54 PM
Also, I just learned that "centipede" is used as slang for a trump supporter on reddit. I mean, they call themselves that  :hmm:

I did a search on reddit for "centipede", limited to the last 24 hours, and it brought up a full page of results about trump.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on October 11, 2016, 06:13:55 PM
Right?  I was like "This can't possibly," but the front page looks as legit as 99% of serious news sites.  And, I mean, it's QUITE a prank story for a serious news site to fall for.  And I wasn't intrigued enough to dig much.  I didn't figure Snopes would already have gotten to it.  They fast, nowadays.

Of course, a metric shit-ton of serious news sites nowadays just gank the same media stream and slap one of like five front ends on it.  It's pretty sad.  Especially since most of those front ends are terrible, and they all limit Real News to like six stories.  That's enough News news for them.  On to fluff!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on October 12, 2016, 05:49:17 AM
According to a Snopes article (http://www.snopes.com/2016/01/14/fake-news-sites/) linked in the Snopes article above, there are a bunch of those sites. They are mostly aimed at FB, so maybe that's why I haven't run across that before.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2016, 09:36:21 AM
Well.  Fuck.

Everything else aside, and although I seriously doubt they have the stones for it, this is exactly the reason we have the Electoral College.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on November 09, 2016, 11:54:11 AM
I doubt we have enough faithless electors, but I'm going to keep dreaming for a couple of months.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2016, 12:47:22 PM
Semi-ballsy would be to just not give either candidate 270.  Then the House of Reps would have to vote on it.

It'd be worth trying.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on November 09, 2016, 05:07:22 PM
Yep, it could be interesting  :popcorn:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2016, 06:37:58 PM
I'm really annoyed Clinton conceded as immediately and compliantly as she did. 

That, right there, is why the Democrats can't get shit done.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 10, 2016, 09:30:50 AM
I'm really annoyed Clinton conceded as immediately and compliantly as she did. 

That, right there, is why the Democrats can't get shit done.

Well of course there's more to it than that, but yeah, I've had that thought many times. Republicans Conservatives in recent years have been willing to try unorthodox methods and break with tradition. I don't know if you could call it thinking out of the box, or being crafty, or devious, or cheating, or what, but they seem to be willing to try things that I don't think the Democratic party would ever consider. The most recent example of failing to consider the SCOTUS nominee, the now ex-nominee, is a good case in point.

I guess it could be said it's more difficult operating from a higher ethical ground, but higher ethics doesn't seem to get many points anymore, and treasonous acts are quickly forgotten.

I think as some younger and more diverse blood enters the party, and as things get really shitty over the next few years, the party will have to change to suit the opponent. I'm also concerned though, that the party will become polarized, with traditionalist on one end and radicals on the other, like the Tea Party and traditional Republicans. The Tea Party, even though now lame, might could be credited with starting that change within the Republican party.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2016, 10:07:27 AM
Operators on the right have gall.  On the left, at best you have principles.

Just think of the many times a major right-wing politician or commentator has said something INSANE that no one on the other side of the aisle could possibly have gotten away with.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 16, 2016, 05:59:07 PM
If you've got friends in Lubbock, Midland, or Abilene, you may want to warn them that they may want to move in the next few years.  They gonna get fracked.

Gifreakingantic shale oil deposit found (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/largest-oil-deposit-ever-found-143906119.html)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 17, 2016, 09:14:57 AM
Maybe instead of building a wall, we just drill Texas into the sea.

In the current climate, I feel the need to state the fact that I am joking.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 17, 2016, 06:57:09 PM
There's gonna be a half billion refugees from climate change (not even god knows how many deaths) in the next 20-50 years.

I don't give a fuck about any part of Texas. Sorry, postie.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on November 18, 2016, 09:03:14 AM
Have I mentioned it hasn't rained here in a month and we're on fire?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on November 19, 2016, 09:59:08 AM
It was in the lower 70s and sunny yesterday.  Today, it's in the 30s and raining, gonna snow this afternoon.

WELP.


The way things are going, there are going to be a lot of refugees from Texas.  Among a lot of other places.  At first, they'll mostly try to go to other states, and then Mexico and Canada, and then who knows.  The way we're being whiny jackbags about taking refugees in, there may not be a lot of welcoming borders.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on November 19, 2016, 10:54:08 AM
whiny jackbags

Heh.  :lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 22, 2016, 08:00:44 PM
Have I mentioned it hasn't rained here in a month and we're on fire?

This sounds familiar! Lucky you, you get the California climate without the high cost of living.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 07, 2016, 07:16:37 PM
Um, what? (http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/dec/05/fired-ohio-officer-must-repay-k-to-progr/)

Cop steals $26,000 from charity for poor kids, spends it on skittles and beer.  Gets caught.  Takes plea deal for two years of probation and repaying $15,000.

So . . . major felony, more despicable than average, but he gets no prison and gets to keep $11,000? 

And they wonder why the public has some disdain for the courts and police.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on December 08, 2016, 01:16:55 PM
I'll take two years of probation for $11K.

I was amazed at the mistrial of the cop (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/05/504424889/judge-declares-mistrial-in-murder-case-against-former-s-c-police-officer) in SC that shot the guy that was running away from him. I suspect that juror had planned that from the beginning, and it makes me wonder if that's going to start being a thing now.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on December 08, 2016, 02:48:32 PM
Or the juror was bribed.  But the juror who derailed the Y'all Qaeda case clearly was set on acquittal before that trial even started.  You gotta wonder what kinds of jackasses they eliminated from the jury ahead of time.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on January 17, 2017, 08:36:38 AM
Topless protester infiltrates unveiling of wax figure in Madrid wax museum, grabs it by the pussy. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/17/topless-feminist-protestor-femen-donald-trump-waxwork)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on January 17, 2017, 10:52:42 AM
Quote
Gonzalo Presa, head of communications at the museum, called the protest “unpleasant” and said he had hoped to give Trump a “special welcome” from Madrid.

“If they want to do this they should do it directly to him. This is too easy,” he said.

:lol:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on January 29, 2017, 03:13:14 AM
no one on fb will get this on my timeline, but . . . seriously, i was more inspired by balok.

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/825435318778212352
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on January 30, 2017, 11:30:32 AM
I am mildly curious how many of the donations to the ACLU this weekend were placed in the name of the person inspiring the donation.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on February 13, 2017, 01:40:26 AM
(https://scontent.flas1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16711711_10211538747125618_8335185449913965667_n.jpg?oh=8e2c2c2e6f5b410466ee9ad38715dd54&oe=593FAA54)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2017, 02:43:24 PM
Yassssssssss . . . .

:thumbsup:


edit:  Bannon Harkonnen
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on February 13, 2017, 06:41:27 PM
Where's Feyd-Ryan?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 24, 2017, 03:40:50 PM
If you remember when Arnold Schwarzetc first got into politics, there were a lot of people who were really upset about when Republicans joked that they were gonna get the Constitution changed so Ahnold could run for President.

Man.  That kind of burns every time I think about it.

Meanwhile, for instance, this happened: 

(https://i.imgur.com/qnW6FuW.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on March 24, 2017, 05:45:20 PM
nice
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on March 25, 2017, 12:23:39 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 25, 2017, 04:58:26 AM
It is indeed a very nice slap-down. The philosophy sounds like Arnold, but I have my doubts about whether he actually wrote that. I also doubt whether the troll post is authentic.

I've gotten very skeptical about this kind of thing.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 25, 2017, 01:40:15 PM
If he's smart enough to arrange for smart people to write his public comments for him . . . .
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 25, 2017, 02:47:08 PM
It probably made some disabled kids feel good, so anything else is pretty irrelevant.

It's also cool that people are getting paid to write tweets. (Well, I assume they're getting paid.)

And Arnold gets credit for 'sponsoring' the message, at least.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on April 24, 2017, 06:27:24 PM
Senate called to White House (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39694640)

I hope this isn't what I think it is. The fact that it isn't until Wednesday gives me a little hope.

Have they changed the clock yet?
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on April 24, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
it's not until weds because the DPNK celebration is tomorrow. they typically have missile tests during it.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on April 24, 2017, 08:05:54 PM
The International Date Line is stuck in the water between us and them, too. The Washington meeting would be after the "celebration".
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on April 25, 2017, 02:40:36 AM
it's a photo op.

that's all he's good for.

he will show up for a few minutes, give an unintelligible speech and take photos. say his military advisers did awesome things and then leave.

day 99.

it's in my book.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on April 25, 2017, 06:03:04 AM
it's a photo op.

that's all he's good for.

Not based on the photos I've seen  :P
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: stormneedle on April 25, 2017, 10:39:24 AM
it's a photo op.

that's all he's good for.

Not based on the photos I've seen  :P
I'd send aloe, but I like seeing the burn.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Sidious on April 25, 2017, 10:31:10 PM
It's the White House. You're Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.  Wear a fucking dress uniform, for fuck's sake.   :angry:

(https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14E0D/production/_95771558_8c754c74-59a3-428b-a4a2-617707ef10ad.jpg)
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on April 26, 2017, 06:13:17 AM
Quote from: Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
I'm hunting tewwowists.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on April 27, 2017, 12:35:47 AM
it was a photo op.

http://www.vox.com/world/2017/4/26/15442140/north-korea-white-house-senate-briefing
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on April 27, 2017, 05:54:27 AM
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: x 10
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on April 27, 2017, 08:58:27 AM
All bluster and no luster.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on April 27, 2017, 06:52:12 PM
CNN's report on it. auto play video

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/27/politics/donald-trump-north-korea-senators-meeting/
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 17, 2018, 04:56:31 PM
Yes, "Libertarians", and why people don't take them seriously:

Libertarian candidate for US Senate proposes giving homeless people shotguns (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/15/us-senate-candidate-proposes-arming-homeless-people-with-shotguns)

“Frankly I think the ideal weapon would be a pistol,” he told the Guardian, “but due to the licensing requirements in the state we’re going to have a hard enough time getting homeless people shotguns as it is."

Ellison, a former soldier who has served in Iraq, said he decided to run for office “just to try and make a difference”.

The homeless people would not be forced to carry pump-action shotguns, Ellison said.

“The first thing that we’re gonna do is ask them if they think this is something that would benefit them. We’re certainly not trying to force anything on anybody.”

Ammunition would be provided with the shotguns, probably in five- or six-shell magazines, Ellison said.

More shells would be provided if the owners legitimately used their guns to defend themselves, however, if people spent their ammunition “shooting cans in somebody’s private property” then they would not be given more shells.

Ellison said he did not think the plan was dangerous.


Here in Michigan, I might add.

It's possible (per the article) that he's trying a little incoherently to make a satirical point about the police being excessively armed, but . . . if so, he's not doing a good job.  I've seen three articles about him, and he just sounds like a loon.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 25, 2018, 11:34:47 AM
Mueller's going after Erik Prince (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-obtains-trump-ally-erik-princes-phones/story?id=56143477).

Ostensibly this is part of going after Trump, and, I mean, sure, yes.  Traitors of a feather wet each others' nests.  But if Mueller could take down that tin Wackenhut once and for all, that would be spectacular.

If any other of the DeVos parasites could go down in the same fire, it'd be a hell of a good day for the US and for the human species in general.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on June 25, 2018, 03:26:15 PM
My pessimism meter is pegged. I can't get excited about anything in government. I suppose there are some signs worthy of optimism, but I feel like anything positive that may happen will just be washed away like an act of Obama.

 :(
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 25, 2018, 03:34:21 PM
For all their many faults, the Dems try to play by the rules, quietly and politely, and the GOP tries anything they can get away with.  It's an idiot's game, and the Dems play it so very badly.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on June 25, 2018, 03:36:10 PM
Make Authoritarians Guillotineable Again!

Please let history repeat itself :pray:
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on June 25, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
It'd just be nice to see the Dems say, "Oh, you're going to go so against American principles that you're going to steal a Supreme Court seat?  Well, we're going to obstruct every single process until you do your jobs right, and we're going to savage you in the press every single day."
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: flipper on June 25, 2018, 05:25:31 PM
I'm at the point of wanting the bloodlust
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 22, 2019, 06:31:25 PM
No new indictments? Really?

There's no way this outfit is any less crooked than Nixon's. This SUCKS.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: pdrake on March 22, 2019, 08:13:39 PM
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/20/18241825/trump-investigations-sdny-inauguration-state-congress
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 23, 2019, 09:29:03 AM
Some commentators were saying there are still about two dozen sealed indictments already in place.  I can't stand reading thirty-five articles about this that are still just parroting the same blah-blah, so I'm not sure WTF is actually going on.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 23, 2019, 09:42:34 AM
WELL, I lied and ended up falling backward into more reporting on the whole mess.  :whatever:

People are claiming sources claiming that there's anywhere from 0 to 40 sealed indictments already in place but not yet made public.  This would be consistent with 'no new indictments' / 'no further indictments soon', but dunno if it's true.

Seth Abramson is keen to point out (https://mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1109203639581712386) that the Mueller investigation feeds information into counterintelligence and Congressional investigations but doesn't cover them.  So the Mueller Report says nothing about any findings, indictments, or timelines for those investigations, never mind SDNY / DC's prosecutions, any lawsuits, and so on.

Mueller's office is (apparently) done issuing criminal indictments related to a piece of the collusion thing, but they're still working because they aren't actually done with their investigation.  Flynn and Stone and Butina are still being prosecuted and squeezed for juice, and the Special Prosecutor is cooperating with a bunch of other investigations.

Mueller has made an unknown number of recommendations for prosecution to the DOJ on an unknown number of unknown defendants.  :nonplused:  Where that goes, only Barr and Rosenstein can currently guess.

And the Dems are at least saying they'll subpoena the entire report if Barr doesn't release it.  We'll see.  They can also simply subpoena Mueller himself.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 23, 2019, 09:44:09 AM
This is personal speculation based on very little consideration, but it strikes me that Barr may have decided that there was no way out of this mess for him, and he may have asked Rosenstein to stay on so that if he (Barr) is forced to do things that cause havoc and make the Strumpers all furious, he can basically say, hey, Rosenstein knew what I knew, and there was no way for me to make it all go away.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: mo on March 23, 2019, 04:22:04 PM
Nice reporting, Axe  :P

I watched about 30 minutes of speculation last night on the PBS Newshour before I came to the conclusion that I should ignore this story for at least a few days to allow it time to become a story.
Title: Re: News you DID need
Post by: random axe on March 24, 2019, 11:25:44 AM
Srsly.

Dear Democrats:

- Fewer threats of subpoenas

- Far more subpoenas


Just ask yourselves how far the GOP would go if the tables were turned, and aim for two-thirds as vicious.  That'll be enough.