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Title: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 17, 2011, 10:12:57 AM
Because, you know, honesty.

Today:  WHY THE HELL DOES IT TAKE SO LONG TO DELETE SOMETHING FROM THE PRINT QUEUE?

This is exactly the kind of thing that should not be so hard.  I don't care about a fancy new look for Windows -- fix this kind of thing first, and then you can have some pudding.

Just under twenty minutes, now, and Windows still hasn't managed to delete a one-page print job from the HP Deskjet queue.  This is an extreme case of common bullshit.  I'm about ready to unplug everything for five minutes.  The alternative is a sledgehammer.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 17, 2011, 10:14:55 AM
As it turns out . . . and perhaps I should have figured this out faster . . . it couldn't delete the job from the queue until I closed Word.

That makes perfect Microsense.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 21, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
There's another solution to that problem... I have a shortcut on my Windows machine to the folder that stores the print files. Deleting those files will remove them instantly from the queue. My Windows machine is in mothballs at the moment, but when I get it set up again, I'll try an remember to post the solution here. Or you could Google it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 21, 2011, 07:44:52 PM
I . . . assumed they were stored in memory.

The MS hardon for temp files really annoys me, in general.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 07, 2011, 08:25:32 AM
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How to force delete print jobs:

Browse to Start -> Run... and type in "NET STOP SPOOLER" (this will stop the print spooler service)

Browse to your windows\system32\spool\PRINTERS\ folder

You should see files there ending in .SPL and .SHD created around the time you tried to print - delete these files.

Browse to Start -> Run... and type in "NET START SPOOLER" (this will restart the print spooler service)



This works really well. The only problem is being able to remember it on the rare occasions you have a print job fail. I kept a shortcut on my desktop for the windows\system32\spool\PRINTERS\ folder.

/delayed response
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 07, 2011, 01:41:58 PM
:hmm:

:thumbsup:

Awesome.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 07, 2011, 03:45:29 PM
Replace the "net stop spooler" command with "services.msc". 

Then just scroll down to the "Print Spooler" service, right click on it, and select "stop".

Then delete *.SPL out of C:\windows\system32\spool\PRINTERS\

Then right-click on the "Print Spooler" service in the services window again and this time select "start".

Less typing.  :)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 07, 2011, 04:09:42 PM
Yeah, but more mouse clicks.

Pipe + printer = no more (print or work) job
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 07, 2011, 04:23:55 PM
Everything to do with Windows, and much that pertains to Macs, desperately needs far more Fuck You I Know What I Want force-stop interrupts.



It blows my mind every damned time when Internet Exploder interrupts the keyboard for its URL auto-complete.  Do not trump my typing.  I am the user.  You are the piece of shit software.  I try to type "hulu.com", and the "ulu" all vanishes because Exploder is pre-empting me while it tries real hard to guess what comes after "h".

Yesterday, Opera actually hung (which almost never happens), and I always have the Task Manager open (usually so I can kill Internet Exploder when it misbehaves), and I was like End Task.  End Task.  End Task.  How the hell are you not Ending Task?

The Task Manager wasn't hung.  It just didn't give a shit.  Oh, no, bitch -- you will listen to me.  This is supposed to be the trump force command.  Don't make me get the hatchet.

I had to hold down the power switch until the hardware shut itself off.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 07, 2011, 04:51:01 PM
It's because in Windows you don't really have any actual control over what's going on.

Even as an Administrator, you don't.  There is no Windows equivalent of "root".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 07, 2011, 05:17:33 PM
Root, schmoot -- (A) Give me a real interrupt, and (B) Don't give me a pretend one and tell me it's a real one.

Yeah, Windows is BS.

Speaking of Administrator accounts in Windows . . . at work the other day, our machine was once again infected by something unpleasant, and I had to log in as Admin to run all the antivirus stuff properly.  The moment I logged in as Admin, this bullshit invasive crap popped up and started running.  :nonplused:

Fortunately, it wasn't hard to kill, and Malwarebytes seems to have eaten it easily enough.  Every time I log in as Admin, though, I want to immediately kill the network access.  Too paranoid by now.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 10, 2011, 11:06:11 AM
Gmail no longer lets you set HTML as your default mode.  Instead, every time you log in with JavaScript disabled, you have to tell it, yes, use the HTML mode.

Lame.  Minus 200 geek cred points.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 16, 2011, 09:15:21 PM
So, I'm typing, and Facebook decides on its own to do something, and Internet Exploder pops up a dialog box to see if I want to load non-secure items, and it selects "OK" automatically because it's pre-selected and I hit the spacebar because, you know, I was already typing something.

This is a good example of why Microsoft should never be allowed to design or implement anything.

Also, Facebook is bad.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on October 17, 2011, 08:16:19 AM
Does it need a spanking?   :knotty:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 17, 2011, 03:31:56 PM
You're thinking of Assbook.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2011, 03:54:26 PM
So.  One of my home machines uses Avast antivirus, and the other one still uses AVG, mostly because I'm lazy [but honest] and partly because I wanted to be able to compare them directly.

Mostly, I rarely notice the difference.  However.  AVG 'upgraded' itself, and now it "warns" me when an application is using "too much" memory.  Apparently anything over 300k is sometimes too much.  So when I'm using Netflix, AVG will sometimes start popping up to warn me that Internet Exploder is using a bunch of memory.

Which, yes, I know.  I realize the software isn't smart enough to (A) know when an app is supposed to be using a lot of memory, or (B) know when it's annoying the shit out of me.  The technology does exist that would allow it to learn, but perhaps that's asking too much.  Popping something up in front of the video I'm watching is prohibitively annoying, though.

I spent about ten minutes sorting through options and crap, and AVG has a setting telling it not to notify me, and another saying not to bug me if I've got an app in full-screen mode.

As it turns out, these do not work.

Sooo . . . as soon as I have the time, I'll uninstall AVG and install Avast on that machine.  Sorry, AVG, but it's like three strikes too many, and I let you have a couple of strikes for free, at the beginning.  Of course, it's possible I'll find that Avast doesn't work great with Netflix, either, but it's worth finding out.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 22, 2011, 10:14:19 PM
ESET's NOD32 is making me happy. It set up easily, and the only notices I get are the daily one that it updated (and I decided not to turn off), and warning me that Windows needs updating (which I'd ignore if something didn't remind me, believe it or not).

There are a lot of things that I don't use, but it's been a nice transparent protection thus far.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 30, 2011, 12:32:32 PM
Dear Google:

OK, you got rid of the "+" operator because, let's face it, you chose a really stupid name for your social network product, and you screwed yourself.  And us.  Power users want a proper set of search operators.

However, the "+" operator hadn't really worked properly in a long time, now had it.  No, of course Google's search engine has been taught to believe that it knows what you actually want regardless of what you actually told it.  What's needed is for the Advanced Search page to have a field that says No, Seriously, Do Not Bother Returning A Single Goddamned Page That Does Not Have This Term, or alternately All These Terms.

I have an original Jeff Beck poster that does not have a date on it.  I'd like to know what concert it's from.  It has a picture of Frankenstein's monster on it, from the old silent film adaptation of Frankenstein.  I went to the Advanced Search and tried various ways of getting Google to search for pages that contain "jeff" "beck" and "frankenstein". 

Nope.  It's not even trying.  I get Young Frankenstein in the first ten pages returned every single damned time, pages that have no mention of "beck" even in their source, much less in rendered text.  My most recent try was for the phrase frankenstein poster "jeff beck", and six of the first eleven returns do no contain "beck".

Useless.  Much as I hate Yahoo!, maybe I'll just go see what Altavista is doing these days.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Talix on October 31, 2011, 09:21:58 AM
Have you tried using the minus sign?  "Jeff Beck" Frankenstein -young?

www.wolfgangsvault.com/jeff-beck/poster-art.html
Link is blocked at work, but looked promising.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 31, 2011, 09:32:06 AM
No, I found it easily enough with Altavista, as it turns out.  I'm sure I could have found it with Google, but my crankiness is over it being unnecessarily difficult. 

I don't want to have to trick Google into doing what I want.  I'm sure there are instances where software does guess what I want in spite of what I've told it, but not that I particularly notice, whereas hour after hour, every day, software is constantly disregarding what I want in order to guess wrong.

Gmail marks random emails as Important, Facebook picks stories for me to care about, yadda fucking yadda.  STOP HELPING.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on October 31, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Just don't search on "jeff" "beck" "frankenstein" and "rule 34"
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 31, 2011, 04:31:42 PM
Not again, no.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on October 31, 2011, 10:03:07 PM
it's not as good as a GIS for lucy liu

 :rolleyes: /moldy frak trick that no longer works (probably)

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 31, 2011, 11:00:21 PM
Wait.  What?  I must have missed this, but I may metagoogle it later.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on October 31, 2011, 11:14:27 PM
It probably doesn't get that result anymore, but I'm sure as shit not going to check.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 01, 2011, 12:43:27 AM
  I'm sure as shit

Oh dear dog
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on November 01, 2011, 12:45:22 AM
 :confused:

Oh hell, I just got it.  There goes my subconscious again!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on November 01, 2011, 12:55:54 AM
Likely what would be returned in a GIS that had Rule 34 in it
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on November 01, 2011, 01:00:47 AM
I believe it was Tub Girl.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 01, 2011, 08:33:34 AM
that's a hoffing.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on November 01, 2011, 11:26:31 AM
Two girls one tub.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 01, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
OF ICE CREAM!





:tmi:

:harumph:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 01, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
bear grylls, one tuba
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on November 01, 2011, 01:59:28 PM
OF ICE CREAM!





:tmi:

:harumph:


Well, it was definitely soft-serve.


*has never actually seen the video. Does not want to. *
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 01, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
yeah i really feel ok about giving that vidja a skip.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on November 01, 2011, 05:16:20 PM
I watched it.  And it was pretty similar to soft serve, whereas tub girl was more the consistency of a loose stew or chunky soup.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 06, 2011, 10:22:39 AM
Internet Exploder's Flash engine stopped working correctly.  Most flash content started displaying at about 2/3 normal size.  Irritating.  And, seriously, can't we get decent flash engines?  Why can I not always right-click on flash content and, say, display it full-screen?

Again, this is shit that should not be integrated into the browser.  It will not be done well.

Anyway, couldn't figure out how to fix this, so I went the default route and erased all the cookies, etc.  Exploder does not have a good interface for this sort of activity, fuck it, erase all browsing history.  Everything.  Come on, you know what I'm saying; so just do it.

Erasing . . . erasing . . . erasing . . . .

Holy hell.  After a couple of minutes, maybe longer, I start timing it.  Eight minutes later, it finally thinks it's done.  File Explorer reports no increase in hard drive space, not that I'm really surprised, but WTF, MS?

So I start thinking, has it really erased everything from the cache?  And where the heck does Windows keep the Exploder cache in XP, anyway.  Some "Temporary Internet Files" folder somewhere, right?  File Explorer's jackass Search function ought to be able to find that.

No . . . no . . . jeez, this thing is slow.  Wait, I think I can force it to go from "All Files and Folders" to just folders.  Pain in the ass . . . yeah, that should do it.  Hey, shouldn't that go faster now?  Like at least an order of magnitude faster?  Why is it still taking forever searching through directories that I know don't have subdirectories?

TO HELL WITH IT.

Naturally, this did not fix the flash issue, either.  But it did make me stop caring.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 06, 2011, 10:37:19 AM
Why can I not always right-click on flash content and, say, display it full-screen?

because flash developers sometimes often chose to disable the right-click menu for various reasons. sometimes for security, aesthetic, usability issues. even if you rt-click/zoom the .swf, the embedded object will only zoom within its embed parameters.

you could zoom the entire page or save the whole page and open the .swf in the standalone flash player (for example, if you wanted to play a flash game). or you could stop using IE. (:eek:)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 06, 2011, 11:40:04 AM
Welp.  I do understand that.  But:

(A)  I don't want flash developers to have the option to disable my controls.  I would prefer to use an external flash app that gives me the full interface all the time, and to hell with what the developer would prefer.  This is, after all, a big part of why I use Opera.  The user should be able to choose the content's formatting if the user wants.

(B)  If it doesn't look good in full-screen, I am perfectly capable of choosing not to view it in full-screen.  A vast proportion of software design failures stem from trying to force users to have what's best for them regardless of what they would choose for themselves.  I am not five years old, and developers are frequently idiotically wrong when they presume to know what I want better than I do.

(C)  IE, so far as I can tell, never allows flash to be shown in full-screen.  Also, the IE flash engine has shit-all for user interface in general.

(D)  The zoom function built in doesn't increase the viewing area; it just zooms in on part of the content.  To date, this has never been a feature I would want to use.  It was a popular function on high-end TVs in the 80s, and everyone thought it was stupid back then, too, but, I know, MS media developers are unfamiliar with the world of media.

(E)  Zooming the page itself is a joke in IE, and frankly not that great in Opera.

(F)  I haven't found a good standalone flash app.  I'm open to recommendations.  Will I have to go through the page source to find the SWF content's URL?

(G)  I can't easily uninstall IE from this machine, which is an ancient XP install, and it doesn't have much drive space, yadda yadda.  Windows helpfully won't let me swap in a bigger hard drive without re-registering Windows because MS is afraid I'm moving my legal copy of Windows to a newer machine instead of buying a new copy of Windows.  (I already tried that one.)

As usual, I am at odds with the world on this one.  Someday MS will somehow (poorly) embed the function of eating food into a smartphone, and then people will realize this philosophy has always been a bad idea, but by then it will be too late.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 06, 2011, 11:49:39 AM
yeah use the flash player from macromed.......adobe. once you download a page, for example from armorgames, look in the folder for gametitle.swf and open it w the flash player.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 06, 2011, 12:34:11 PM
I am NOT using an Adobe app.  :harumph:

I've tried the method you describe, though, and I was told by Windows that another application was using that file and I wasn't allowed to do anything else with it.  Including copy-paste it.  And Exploder erases the file when it's done with it.  They don't like you to have a local copy.

You get it to work, though?  Maybe MS just hates me.  (Adobe hates everybody.)



edit:  Just because I am so cranky doesn't mean I don't appreciate the help, BTW.  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 06, 2011, 03:02:23 PM
flash is an adobe app, mang.

this is like trying to get my grandpa to set his VCR.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 06, 2011, 03:12:16 PM
Bah.  I don't consider the Flash format to be an Adobe app.  They didn't even invent it.

Buy your grandpa a DVD player, man.  At least give him an exciting new set of problems.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 06, 2011, 03:20:11 PM
 :lol:

well the flash player used to be a macromedia thing.

http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html

by the way, i do this with armorgames all the time because sometimes i want to waste time when i have no internettubes connection. so i know this works.

1) "save page as"
2) open .swf with flash player
3) don't profit



Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 06, 2011, 04:00:07 PM
:hmm:  I would profit greatly, if I could get that to work.

I will try it tonight, in fact.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 06, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
i'd say "future splash" is a far cry from modern flash programming. i could be persuaded that macromedia did in fact invent flash, in the sense that they developed it most substantially towards its current incarnation. the programming language (ActionScript, the aspect of Flash that makes interactivity and gaming possible) was not even really around until Flash 4, long after macromedia started to develop Flash. without the programming language, Flash is basically just for vector graphics animation, as opposed to a development tool for complex games like Gemcraft, etc, that it became.


Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 06, 2011, 08:32:12 PM
:harumph:  Adobe /= Macromedia, you silly person, anymore than AOL = Time-Warner.  (OK, I know AOL got spun off again eventually, but you know what I mean.)

But anyway.

I tried two different free standalone Flash apps, both named FTV Player (helpful, that), but neither of them seems to, you know, work.  Can't get them to play a Flash game from a URL (which I did have to search page source for).  IE apparently hides cached Flash files by renaming their extension, pain in the ass that it is, and when I specifically download the Flash file using Opera, it's apparently unplayable.

:shrug:

I did discover that if I enter the URL for a Flash file in IE's address bar, IE will sometimes play that file as large as the screen allows.  Peculiar.  Weirdly enough, it won't let me bookmark them (er . . . "dd them to Favorites" :barf: ), but it will let me add them to the goddamned Favorites Bar that I never use.

If nothing else, this is cutting down on how much time I waste playing games.  But at least temporarily increasing how much time I waste trying to play games.


ObPedant:  I know, I know, I can't make up my mind whether or not to capitalize "Flash" every damned time.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 06, 2011, 09:00:10 PM
it's not perculiar [sic], considering the HTML that embeds the flash object when you look at it in the confines of a web page (the embedding parameters control the size of the object, among other important things) is absent when you open a .swf in a standalone player. a flash object can be 800x600, for example. but you can also control-F it (:knotty:) to view fullscreen. if all yer graphics are vector, no problemo.

the normal flash player, the one that is released for and kept up to date with flash, works just fine. including opening a(n) .swf from a location.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 06, 2011, 09:03:50 PM
:suspicious:

Adobe probably farks with Flash to keep it from working right with third-party players.

But I phrased that bit badly.  What I meant was peculiar is that IE will sometimes play the Flash file, by itself, and sometimes not.  When it does, it plays it as large as the screen allows.

I probably have some ancient version of IE.  I hate breaking these things upwardish in an attempt to fix one particular problem and at the expense of adding new ones.  I should stick to DOS games that will play inside DOS Box.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 06, 2011, 09:33:50 PM
 :lol:

we could also snail mail back and forth a chess game, if you like.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 08:24:54 AM
:rollin:

I can't stay interested in a game of chess.  Back around . . . 1982, maybe? . . . I was actually briefly part of a by-mail SF RPG.  Can't remember the name.  It cost like $12 to enter, and I think there were 200 people in it.  My brother and I conspired on moves, but we could barely understand the rules, and we suspected that there was a lot of cheating going on.

A lot of paper RPGs bog down if the GM doesn't set a time limit on how long a player can take to decide WTF they're going to do next.  This one had a strict limit -- if your reply wasn't received in time, it didn't count.  Of course, I believe moves were weekly . . . .

Somehow, this was able to compete with the computer games we had available at the time.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 07, 2011, 08:56:12 AM
I think the thing that's not getting across here is that TFJ is talking about using the Flash Player Application (Projector), not the Flash Player Plugin used by your browser. He linked to the page to download it from. I've learned something here too. I didn't have the application installed, just the plugin. The one that I downloaded was listed as "Download the Macintosh Flash Player 10.3 Projector (ZIP, 4.94MB)".

After installing the projector, I still couldn't just double-click on the .SWF file, I had to specify which application to use to open the file, but after that, it works.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 09:15:41 AM
No, I did try two standalone Flash players.  I just would rather not have this work than use Adobe's own player.  I realize the plug-ins are Adobe's, yadda yadda, but sometimes symbolic victories are the best you can do.

Can't get the standalone apps to do much.  I have some ancient SWF nuggets that are meant to be played in standalone apps (lame graphical demonstration things), and those work, but that's it.

This could very well be a problem of ancient computer whatnot.  IE 8, XP, whatever.  Seriously, Flash games are not generally so awesome that it's worth this much trouble.  I figured they'd play faster and more reliably outside of IE, but whatevs.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 07, 2011, 09:55:54 AM

I tried two different free standalone Flash apps, both named FTV Player (helpful, that), but neither of them seems to, you know, work.  Can't get them to play a Flash game from a URL (which I did have to search page source for).  IE apparently hides cached Flash files by renaming their extension, pain in the ass that it is, and when I specifically download the Flash file using Opera, it's apparently unplayable.



This could very well be a problem of ancient computer whatnot.  IE 8, XP, whatever.  Seriously, Flash games are not generally so awesome that it's worth this much trouble.  I figured they'd play faster and more reliably outside of IE, but whatevs.

I don't see anything when I google "FTV player". Did you mean "FLV"? It appears some of those are limited in functionality unless you pay extra.

Have you tried Gnash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash)?

And yeah, depending on what game/s you are trying to play, it could be limited by your hardware/software age.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 10:21:43 AM
Derp.  FLV, yeah.  One, I don't remember what it said; the other one, the website is explicit that it's entirely free.  :shrug:

The Wikipedia page for Gnash says Windows support is limited and apparently only a plug-in that works with Firefox.

I appreciate the effort, but seriously it's not worth this much trouble for a few items from Armor Games.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 07, 2011, 12:09:28 PM
I don't see anything when I google "FTV player".

Really? Because I see one hell of a lot of pr0n. :hmm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 07, 2011, 12:17:11 PM
you can also publish a flash game as a(n) .exe

innerstin huh

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 07, 2011, 01:04:12 PM
Here, random axe, my most recent writeup of my own endless complaining in the browser department: My Chromium Extensions (https://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/my-chromium-extensions/)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 07, 2011, 01:16:31 PM
hey i got a idea. give him more shit to complain about.

 ;)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 01:55:07 PM
There's no bottom to that well.


Quote from: TFJ
you can also publish a flash game as a(n) .exe

I can?  Or you mean that more generically?  Probably the latter.


Quote from: Celegorm
My Chromium Extensions

:hmm:

Some of those sound like very good ideas.  The YouTube-modifying one sounds like it would make YouTube about 600% better.  About half of those seem like they reproduce functionality built into Opera, though.

Half of why I don't use Firefox much is that I think I would get sick of playing around with different plug-ins long before I got it customized the way I wanted it.  My brother has an incredible array of plug-ins that he's always telling me about, and some of them sound very clever, etc, but the thing is that he just enjoys farking around with the technology, whereas I get sick of that really fast.

This is also why he makes six times as much money as I do, though.  I'm not sneering at it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 07, 2011, 02:01:46 PM
actually you could, if you install the 30 day flash trial, author a game, and then publish it as an exe. but yes. ONE can choose to compile an exe, if one so chooses.  :nonplused:

what do you get for trying to help a brotha? heartaches.  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 02:09:50 PM
:lol:

No, I just meant that if you were saying I could easily convert a SWF file to an executable and just run it by itself, then I don't know how to do that.

It sounded too good(ish) to be true.



edit:  Remember, us Yankees expect problems and expect to complain.  We don't really expect assistance or resolution.  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 07, 2011, 02:13:04 PM
 :lol:

srsly i don't think there's an easy way to do that. but there is a way to do that. but it's slightly more problematic than using the free flash player app.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 03:03:18 PM
:ttth:

This whole experience has put me off of Flash games.  I'm really into, uh, slot cars now.

Yeah, that's it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 07, 2011, 03:07:44 PM
About half of those seem like they reproduce functionality built into Opera, though.

S'truth.  I'd just use Opera, but it comes with its own annoyances and problems anymore.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 03:12:13 PM
I know!  With every upgrade, I write to them and say STOP IMPROVING THINGS.

Every major software company seems to do that.  They fail to fix the broken stuff that makes you crazy, but they add ten new things, seven of which don't quite work right and five of which are horrible anyway.  (The broken ones and the horrible ones aren't always the same ones, either.)

I hate the crap out of mouse gestures, myself, but they do seem popular.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 07, 2011, 03:13:32 PM
Hey. Is HTML 5 going to kill Flash, or what? I mean, you can play DOOM 2 in it (http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/01/google-html5-quake/), which, you know, is really all you should want from your browser.

I figure you guys should know.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 07, 2011, 03:15:58 PM
Linux Critic is pretty much my Wordpress version of this "Endless Complaining" thread.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 04:25:12 PM
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Hey. Is HTML 5 going to kill Flash, or what? I mean, you can play DOOM 2 in it, which, you know, is really all you should want from your browser.

I know you are trying to kill me.  :harumph:

HTML is a markup language designed for hypertext.  That is what it should be.  Animated GIFs and RTF-type text formatting are as elaborate as I want HTML itself to be.  I will allow that some integration of broader media into the browser is a good idea.  Mixing it directly into web pages was a very sexy idea at a time when it was entirely impractical; now it is obviously far too easy, and hence never done well.

I do want to play DOOM II again, but it is no longer possible except with legacy copies, as iD went full evil around the time that Quake was nearing its first release.  iD would tell you they'd sell you DOOM II, but they would actually only sell you an abomination called Doom98, a castrated Windows-friendly downgrade that betrayed everything that was actually revolutionary about DOOM. 

After they lied and took my money for that, I've never bought anything from any of those guys again.  But personally I thought Quake sucked, anyway.  (But, then, I played Halo a few times and thought it was pretty bad, too, and not worth playing further.  Obviously my tastes in FPS do not match those of the gaming community at large.)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 07, 2011, 05:41:40 PM
You're about a decade out of date, they've released the code for Doom and Quake & Q2 to the community, and there are a lot of ports. The HTML5 one was based on a Java port that someone-not-iD did.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on November 07, 2011, 06:29:10 PM
 :lol: :rollin:

i'm just imaging axe on an old greenscreen PC smackin it on the side hollering about needing to play DOOM2 and now the sumbitch won't PRINT
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 06:33:34 PM
We used to play a Hunt The Wumpus-ish fantasy game on printer terminals at the local high school while my brother was programming something or other for them.  No screen, just a teletype printer, like an IBM Selectric on a pedestal, with a big roll of continuous paper. 

You type a command, and there's a pause, and the computer (which was in another room, on account of being too big) prints out the response and advances the paper one line.  You could take the game home with you later, to brag.  We never did, but you could. 


And they cannot make up for defrauding me out of my DOOM money by making it open-source later.  It was an unforgiveable sin.  The whole point of Doom98 was that the hacks wouldn't work anymore.  They had their RIAA moment, and they can't go back and pretend it didn't happen.

/never forget
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on November 07, 2011, 08:42:05 PM
I got a big .wad
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: First Post on November 07, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
And Doom 3 source is out soon (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/38294/Carmack_Doom_3_Source_Code_Packaged_And_Tested.php).

What's funny is, right now it's fashionable to hate on iD because their last game was a big misstep (several reasons I think...big corporate takeover mentality, consolitis, stifling linearity, turning a clever-but-hacky kludge Carmack made one afternoon while helping some struggling devs into the cornerstone architecture of their latest engine, continuing to use OpenGL when both major vidcard manufacturers' OGL drivers are practically useless, etc), but the usual line is "iD hasn't made a good game since Quake 3 Arena" (they did, actually--Return to Castle Wolfenstein--but nobody remembers that) so it's out of the ordinary to see that sentiment extended all the way back to pre-Quake.

Meanwhile, tonight millions of homies will line up to bro down with "the most anticipated game in history" (lol marketing) which is STILL based on the Quake 3 engine after all these years.

As for Quake 1, install this stuff (http://fullglassemptyclip.com/2011/03/how-to-play-quake-1-like-its-2011/) and it's like a whole new ball game...

(also, Marine Doom (http://www.cybernetic.co.uk/files/cyberhtm/marinedoom.htm). No perk unlocks or killstreaks for the broskis, so dunno if it counts as a war sim anymore, haha)

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 09:22:16 PM
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What's funny is, right now it's fashionable to hate on iD because their last game was a big misstep

I don't mean to sound like a wiseass, but what was their last game?


Full Disclosure:  I was actually a consultant for Activision for weapons for one of the Quake games (you'd think I'd remember which one, but my brain is not that kind of brain).  A friend was working at Activision at the time, yadda yadda, I never understood exactly how Activision got involved (I could imagine something; I just didn't even really care), blah blah.

They actually solicited input from me on several games after they liked my Quake suggestions, and I don't know if the other games were even ever published.  The only one I remember is a spy game set in the late 1960s.  Long story short, they decided not to use any of the input they got from outside consultants.  I did get free copies of a bunch of Activision stuff, including Quake (meh), a couple of MechWarrior packs (awesome), some Zorkquel (never unwrapped it), and I don't know what else.

Eh.  I probably spent less than a week doing proposal junk for them, so whatever.  But it's not why I didn't like Quake.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: First Post on November 07, 2011, 09:41:55 PM
Rage, just came out a month or so ago. Witness this obnoxious hit piece (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/6500/the_creative_intent_of_rage.php) hailed by many as "OMG finally somebody is standing up to the evil game developers!" but really just a crowd-friendly attack on a soft target (iD doesn't exactly have a busy release schedule, so this guy didn't have to worry about being blacklisted from future interviews and so forth).

Some of the points are nevertheless valid. Carmack indicated that he knew a lot of it was a bad idea already at this year's Quakecon keynote back in August, but that's an hour and a half of tech talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zgYG-_ha28) that would glaze the eyeballs of most normal humans, so it got overlooked and it was too late anyway. So far I haven't seen iD's takeover by Zenimax/Bethesda as a good thing at all, though. It doesn't play to their strengths, and adds to the currently popular idea that they're "has-beens who have now been left behind by the industry."

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 07, 2011, 10:08:00 PM
Maaaan, really? That's a bad way to think. Carmack's smarter than the rest of them combined. Of course that doesn't always translate into good games.

Of course, we used to think Romero was smart, too. And then there was Daikatana ...
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 07, 2011, 10:36:15 PM
Jebus Rebus, the Wikipedia page for Rage goes on about 26 times longer than I want to read.  Frankly, it seems a little low-concept to me, especially considering how much concept seems to go into some of these things, but maybe Wikipedia over-compresses it.

The Wiki page would lead one to think the game was a huge critical success.  :shrug:  There's always someone who disagrees.  Usually me, but I'm so far out of this loop that I never even heard of this game.  Aside from Halo . . . I think the last new commercial game I played was a PSX game, whatever it was.  I guess it's been about ten years.

I dunno.  I've watched people play a lot of newer games, but I haven't been tempted.  Old, or something.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: First Post on November 07, 2011, 11:30:21 PM
If Quake was made today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU) explains modern gaming fairly well...

(DLC = downloadable content, usually meant to indicate $10-15 addons that should have been in the game already. Used to be done thru larger and more justifiable "expansion packs", but now they nickel and dime everybody this way so they'll keep playing the game instead of selling it back to GameStop two weeks later and cutting the devs out of the revenue loop)

 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 07, 2011, 11:38:20 PM
I got a big .wad

Thank you SO much for going there so that I didn't have to.

That's serious teamwork.  *fist bump*
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 07, 2011, 11:53:29 PM
Slight derail: Friend of mine who worked for a big corp made a UT map that looked like his office. And he named all the bots in the game after the Marketing department staff. No lie. It was a hilarious server to play on.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 08, 2011, 08:08:45 AM
Yeah, back in the good days of DOOM, I went through a lot of people's places of work, slaughtering every demon and swapped-texture-map co-worker and/or Doonesbury character.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 08, 2011, 10:25:48 AM
I used to have a Beavis & Butthead mod for Doom 2.  It was hilarious.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on November 08, 2011, 10:50:36 AM
heh heh cool heh heh
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 17, 2011, 01:34:10 PM
Still use Hotmail for stuff I've subscribed to, and because it was the first webmail account I ever had, but it's just getting shittier and shittier as the years go by.

Since maybe two weeks ago, it now

(A) Performs operations (like move or delete) on the wrong messages.  I select four messages to delete, and it deletes two of them plus three I hadn't selected, and doesn't delete two of the ones I did select.  Pretty annoying.

(B)  Randomly opens the Compose New Message page.  I'll click on the Spam folder, and it'll go to Compose instead, or I'll try to get it to show me older messages, and it'll go to Compose.  If I just leave it sitting for several minutes, sometimes it'll go to Compose.  WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO WRITE???


And it still does the thing where when I first log in, it shows me the Inbox from sometime last July.  I have to click on Inbox to get it to update.  That's partly worrisome because there's no reason it should remember what the Inbox looked like.  It's not a local thing, either; it happens at work, too. 

Effing Microsoft, man.  Such crap in all things.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 19, 2011, 12:55:49 PM
Gmail, stop hiding quoted text.  I have never wanted you to do that, and you frequently guess wrong about what's quoted text.  But hiding entire forwarded notes is especially stupid.

Seriously, stop trying to help, because you are an idiot.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 20, 2011, 06:51:10 PM
GOD DAMN IT WINDOWS YOU PIECE OF DRECK WHY DOES HARDWARE IO WRECK YOUR SHIT WHAT IS THIS 1983 OR SOMETHING YOU BAG OF INCOMPETENT CRAP
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 20, 2011, 10:29:09 PM
:galm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 20, 2011, 10:34:02 PM
SERIOUSLY, though.  The CD drive coughs, and the entire OS freezes up.

I do admire MS's insane plan to simply wait for floppy drives to become obsolete rather than ever fix this bullshit during the entire time people were using floppies.

Come to think of it, they're probably not fixing Windows because they figure it's easier to just wait until people don't use computers anymore.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 03, 2011, 10:24:50 PM
So apparently in Internet Exploder, web pages can tell the browser not to let you look at the source code.

:eyeroll:

I've never had this problem with Opera.  Viewing source with Exploder is always an annoying process, but ye gods.  NEVER MIND.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on December 04, 2011, 09:59:33 AM
maybe they did the old megascroll trick with the page source?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 04, 2011, 10:48:49 AM
No, the Exploder menu command is grayed out.  MS is in on it.

I totally understand why the web developer doesn't want me looking at the source.  I still want to be able to.  The way Windows is now, I'm sure File Exploder won't let me look at the file in the cache, either, with its bullshit Another Program Is Using This File crap that won't let you view, or copy-paste the thing.  At least give me the real reason and not some incompetent excuse, you micropricks.

A lot of fancy-ass pages are built to summon content from elsewhere, and they simply won't load if you have JS turned off.  Fuck 'em.  Not many websites are worth that kind of intrusive hassle.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 09, 2011, 11:31:55 PM
I honestly don't know what to make of this, and I'm not really upset over it -- although I would be under other circumstances where security mattered more -- but:  On one of my XP machines, the idle-time settings no longer work properly.

By which I mean:  It's set to turn the screen off after five minutes of inactivity, and after seven minutes to go to the login screen when you wake it up.  This has never malfunctioned before, but now it will sometimes fail to turn the screen off even after forty minutes or so, and sometimes it will go right back to my logged-in user account when I do wake it up.

If I manually tell it to sleep or hibernate, that seems to work correctly.  And I'd say it still works properly about 30-40% of the time.  These are actually settings in the ThinkPad Power Management control interface, but obviously they're made to work with Windows, and my other, older, nearly identical ThinkPad has never had a problem . . . .

Is this a random Windows bug, or does this mean my CMOS is about to go, or something?  My machine checks its clock against the internet, so I no longer have that handy oops-the-clock-is-slipping red flag to tell me the CMOS battery is dying.  Do these laptops even have that kind of setup?  I have no idea.

As long as it doesn't get worse, it's not a big deal.  [cough]  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on December 14, 2011, 06:44:58 PM
I don't have anything helpful or funny to say, I just want to subscribe to this newsletter.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 15, 2011, 12:22:52 PM
Dear Hotmail:

So you've added some kind of flag-related one-click whatnot to try to make up for deficits in basic functionality.  Hurrah.  However, the new system tends to change the position of the mail list when the mouse cursor moves over the list.  As a result, clicking on a particular email (or trying to manipulate the 'flag') means hitting a moving target.

Please keep things simple.  You are not good with complicated.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 16, 2011, 05:28:18 PM
I don't really love or hate the new Gmail -- to me, it seems no better or worse than the old JS version of Gmail, which is to say that the autocomplete and autosave are nice, but overall it's not better than the much faster and less persnickety basic HTML version.

BUT.  I noticed today that the JS version of Gmail now doesn't date incoming mail correctly if it's a reply to something else.  No matter when the reply comes in, Gmail dates it as being the same date as the email it's replying to.

:whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 22, 2011, 06:49:37 PM
Ugh, the Google Plus ads are so bad, they make me hate other people.  :ttth:

But that aside . . . .

Hotmail tweaked their truly awful new hover-over-one-click 1998 nonsense, and now . . . Hotmail does not work with any version of IE on any machine I have access to.  WOW!  Seriously, that's some kind of crazy impressive failure there.

It works OK -- not great, but OK -- in Firefox, though.  :huh:  :eyeroll:

Even in Firefox, there's a ton of flicker, and occasionally the page resets to the Inbox regardless of what you were doing.  But c'mon, MS idiots.  You added, like, no significant functionality at the cost of breaking basic operations.  It's an achievement even for MS.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on December 25, 2011, 11:17:50 PM
There are ads in Google Plus?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 26, 2011, 08:20:34 AM
Ads for Google Plus.  I have not seen the Google Plus itself.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 26, 2011, 12:46:44 PM
Ads for Google Plus on Google Plus would be kind of awesome. Kind of like the Starbucks with a Starbucks in the parking lot.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on December 28, 2011, 10:03:10 AM
There are ads in Gmail?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 28, 2011, 12:07:50 PM
I think they still have context-sensitive text ads in Gmail, but actually I'm not seeing any at the moment.

I see Google Plus ads when I'm at Hulu.  They're seriously fucking awful, and insulting -- and incompetent, because the basic message is Not Everyone Has To See Everything You Want To Tell Someone and also Facebook Sucks.  It should be amateur-time-easy to make a simple and effective ad around that, but instead they have ads that convey the notion that (1) you know lots of people you don't like but need to stay connected to on a daily basis, (2) Google Plus works with the brain you already have!, and (3) you're kind of a dick and need to keep some people from realizing that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on January 02, 2012, 07:37:32 PM
Ads for Google Plus on Google Plus would be kind of awesome. Kind of like the Starbucks with a Starbucks in the parking lot.

At one intersection in Canada there is a 7/11 at each corner.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 02, 2012, 07:39:54 PM
Wow, that's like 28/11.




edit:  Although that works out to just over 2.5, so I guess I shouldn't be so impressed.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on January 02, 2012, 07:53:57 PM
I was talking The Southland Corporation.  But whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 03, 2012, 10:37:46 AM
Wow, that's like 28/11.




edit:  Although that works out to just over 2.5, so I guess I shouldn't be so impressed.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 04, 2012, 02:40:58 PM
Did they break Wikipedia, or does it just look funny on my machine?

If this is a site redesign, it's unnecessary, butt-ugly, and no improvement of any kind.  It certainly would not incline me to donate money to them in the future.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 04, 2012, 03:00:16 PM
It looks the same to me :shrug:

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 11, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
Effing Internet Exploder started telling me it wouldn't load Netflix, and I was annoyed, but maybe it was Netflix, you know?  But then it wouldn't load Hulu, either.  Can't load that page, it was telling me. 

Tried Google, but no dice.  Then I noticed that it was trying to load http://%20www.google.com/.

:confused:

Retyped it.  Checked the others.  Nope, it's started adding a space at the beginning of any URL and then choking on it.

:eyeroll:  [sigh]

Shut it down, restart it, no change.  Shut Windows down, and it says I have updates to install.  Really?  Because I did that just the other day.  Well, maybe one of them fixes ancient versions of IE for XP.

Installing update 1 of 19

:eek:

WTF.  I have the unpleasant foreboding that Windows will not reboot after it finally finishes this.  God, I hate Microsoft so much.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 11, 2012, 11:22:15 PM
I know Linux isn't an option for you.

But seriously dude.  I don't miss those frustrations.

I support Windows (Server and Desktop) for a living, every day, at work.  I come home, and no problem.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 12, 2012, 12:06:55 AM
I always say my next computer will be a Linux box.  And I've tried it twice. 

First one was a hopeless Mandrake install.  Oh my god what a fiasco.  I went Mandrake, even though it wasn't even a free version, because the ZD magazines recommended hands-down it to first-timers.  They justified its price on its handy dual-boot that got along well with Windows and its professional tech support. 

Huh.  It wouldn't boot, it booted by default so that I had to sit there and manually say no, no, no seriously I know what I'm saying but boot into Windows.  And the easy uninstall (seriously, the box and PC Magazine review said 'Easy uninstall!') LITERALLY was 'Reformat hard drive.'  Seriously.  And the tech support was all in broken English because the tech support guys were in France.  :thumbsdn:

The other machine was very usable, but then I needed it for work (OF COURSE) and had to install XP to that end.

BUT SOMEDAY!

I do want a GUI on top that has spiffy keyboard support, and the few Linux GUIs I've used have not had spiffy keyboard support, but I can adjust.  The modern world being what it is, 90% or more of what I do with computers nowadays is all browser, file tree, media viewer, simple word processor, so the actual GUI matters very little compared to a few apps. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on January 12, 2012, 04:35:25 AM
You know Mandrake screams when you mess with the root, don't you?  :batteyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 12, 2012, 10:29:45 AM
Hahaha @ TOA.   :rollin:

Axe, with something like Linux Mint and Fluxbox as a window manager, you could customize it until you puke, keyboard and all.

Just let me know if you ever get around to ripping that bandaid off.  I'd be happy to help.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 12, 2012, 10:51:44 AM
Quote
You know Mandrake screams when you mess with the root, don't you?

I would have split that bastard in two with a dull shovel at midnight under a full moon if it would have uninstalled it from my hard drive.

Actually, that boot problem is why I ended up leaving that machine on 24/7, and that's the machine that caught fucking fire in the middle of the night, rather alarmingly.  I suppose I can't entirely blame Mandrake for that, but I still object.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 12, 2012, 11:15:46 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kts8SNlgqWA/S7NVUILnuYI/AAAAAAAAAFo/2iowifEnvkw/s1600/StrangeloveRipper1.jpg)
Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on January 12, 2012, 11:25:13 AM
you could simply deny the computer your essence.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 12, 2012, 11:54:46 AM
You're thinking of a homunculus now, and it's been . . . seventeen or eighteen years since I had a computer called Athanor.  The hanged-man's semen story is a misunderstanding.  Mandrake is supposed to be shaped with wax, fed with moonlight (or sunlight filtered through mica), then kept under glass and controlled sympathetically with a magnet and a piece of iron.  Or you can steep it in blood and tainted milk and then use the odor like a hand of glory, or cut it to produce a scream that can kill your enemies if they're in range (but, you know, wear earplugs).
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on January 12, 2012, 01:37:32 PM
Now I'm wondering what happens if a singing siren is holding a screaming mandrake root...
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on January 12, 2012, 01:51:59 PM
cl4xcrt hear mayun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0he-LZNzVg0#t=73s)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 12, 2012, 02:00:06 PM
Don't go all weirdly tantric on us, mang.  :lol:




Well, I mean, don't go all weirdly tantric on us, either.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on January 12, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
:galm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 16, 2012, 11:26:20 AM
I do not fully understand how there is any programmer, any designer, any software executive left in the world who is SO INSIPIDLY STUPID that they still think that buttons with bad icons are superior to buttons with simple text.

I'm looking at you, Gmail.  This is not merely stupid, but it is stupidity that became embarrassingly out-of-date stupidity over ten years ago.

Making the user hover the mouse over an icon to get the useful text is a sin against humanity.  It's like 'improving' a screwdriver by requiring users to clap their hands before they can pick it up and turn it.

Your product is bad, your design processes are bad, your business sense is bad, and you should feel bad.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on January 16, 2012, 12:55:44 PM
It's the Apple-ization of everything.  I fucking hate icons.  And the gmail change really pisses me off.  I'm hyperlexic not hypericonic ferfucksakes!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 16, 2012, 03:44:21 PM
It's 90% change for the sake of change bullshit.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on January 16, 2012, 03:49:50 PM
Subscribes to flipper's newsletter.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on January 16, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Apple tries to make the keyboard obsolete, refuses to allow keyboard shortcuts, insists on miniaturizing everything, over-uses icons and tries to make things 'pretty' at the expense of functionality.  The iMac at home has only three usb ports and they are in the back of the device almost impossible to get to.  Would it be too much to ask to have ports on the front, or side, and to have enough for at least a few things other than a mouse, keybr0ad, and printer?

/ :soapbox:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 16, 2012, 05:00:28 PM
That's exactly one of the things that always bugged me about Apple -- they enumerate these design philosophy elements as if they were holy commandments, and then they do a deeply shitty job of following up.  How long did they stick with the one-button mouse?  And the horrible tiny Mac display?

There's perilously little good design in the history of IBM-compatible machines, but that's mostly the fault of consumers not choosing machines based on good design.  Since the machines were expensive and people were trying to maximize on-paper performance rather than good design, that's not mysterious.  But Apple always claims that it relentlessly pursues good design, and it really doesn't.  It pursues the marketability of design, and charges extra for it.

The Daisy iMac is a perfect example.  Jobs specifically rejected designs that were flat in the back, so they could more easily be placed near a wall (he felt people shouldn't put their desks against a wall), and designs that were more easily hung on a wall (maybe for the same reason).  Even though he specifically required the display be able to point up.  If it's not hung on a wall, why would you want the display at that angle?  And it would actually be a design coup if you could hang it on the wall.

And the G4 should have looked 'like a supercomputer' if they were going to market it as one.  Make it look like a Thinking Machine, and you'll sell an extra ten thousand of them, easy.  And the Cube was even worse.  How Jobs went from the futuristicish NeXT Cube in 1990 to the 60s-toaster G4 Cube in 2000 is beyond me.  It looked like Barbie should park her moon buggy in it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on January 16, 2012, 06:05:58 PM
well, i have a 12 core power mac (with 16 gigs of ram, i need more) and it sits on the floor. the short cuts are all software dependent so i don't know which ones apple won't allow. the insides are very well designed and everything is totally modular. it does weigh about 60lobs.  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 16, 2012, 06:38:48 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lebooq8rXb1qauf5u.gif)




They're not all uniformly terrible, god knows.  Just frequently infuriating.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on January 16, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
 :lol:

it is my work pc. i have to drive a lot of 3D software. i only have very humble machines at home.  8)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 17, 2012, 10:56:58 AM
My Dell has 2 usb ports on the front, and 4 on the back.

My Mini has 2 usb ports on the keyboard, and 5 on the back.

 :neener:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on January 17, 2012, 01:05:12 PM
my printer, keybroad, and mouse, and turtle are wireless.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 17, 2012, 01:20:04 PM
Unfortunately my dog still needs a cable (see other thread).
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 17, 2012, 05:08:11 PM
Oh, and btw, speaking of design and usb...

(http://i.imgur.com/7w53M.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 17, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
OMG TRUTH
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 17, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
Yes, species of idiots.  But this is like the 35th type of networking cable with this exact same design problem.  Obviously what we need to do is fire everyone.

Just the other day, a customer was demanding that I explain why extension cords have a plug on one end and a socket on the other, but network and media extension cords have a plug on both ends and it's ten times harder to find the female-female adapter for them.

Because we're idiots.  OK?  Are you happy now?  Apparently the people who bring us networking hardware are unfamiliar with extension cords -- and power cords in general.  I mean, why don't computers and monitors have built-in plugs that accept regular extension cords, for that matter?  The power cord for a desktop machine is clearly not terribly low-gauge, and a pretty robust power supply draws, what, less than three amps, right?  So why the funny-shaped plug?  Just to sell specialized replacement cords?  They're not more expensive than regular extension cords, and you can buy 25' ones.

:shrug:

If there are good reasons for these things, they should be publicized by the people responsible, because they're just making us all look bad.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 17, 2012, 06:08:19 PM
In other news . . . Firefox and IE, when I hit Escape or click on the Stop button, stop.  STOP.  Maybe you need an extra button / key combo for FUCKING STOP.  I don't know.  But sometimes, when you refuse to stop, I kill you dead with the Task Manager, because that's what you deserve, and then I levy horrible curses on the people who designed you to ignore me.

When I say stop, and especially when I say it repeatedly, just stop.  Stop loading, stop caching, stop waiting for a reply from a server, stop rendering images, stop spooling video, stop downloading ads that think they're more important than I am, stop executing JavaScript and Flash and Shockwave and whatever the fuck else.

Stop means Stop, bitches.  If I meet whoever made the decision for you to be coded otherwise, I will break some teeth.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 17, 2012, 06:10:20 PM
And, incidentally, if I have told you to FUCKING STOP, you sure as hell had better not start up again on your own in a few seconds.  Or even five minutes.  If I have stopped you, I will tell you when to refresh, update, etc.  You do not have permission to traipse around the internet or steal resources without my say-so.

Do.  Not.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 17, 2012, 06:31:12 PM
Accept the fact that the personal computer revolution has failed, you are not in control, and you never were.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 17, 2012, 06:55:49 PM
In other news . . . Firefox and IE, when I hit Escape or click on the Stop button, stop.  STOP.  Maybe you need an extra button / key combo for FUCKING STOP.  I don't know.  But sometimes, when you refuse to stop, I kill you dead with the Task Manager, because that's what you deserve, and then I levy horrible curses on the people who designed you to ignore me.

When I say stop, and especially when I say it repeatedly, just stop.  Stop loading, stop caching, stop waiting for a reply from a server, stop rendering images, stop spooling video, stop downloading ads that think they're more important than I am, stop executing JavaScript and Flash and Shockwave and whatever the fuck else.

Stop means Stop, bitches.  If I meet whoever made the decision for you to be coded otherwise, I will break some teeth.

Oh hell yeah.  THIS.


Accept the fact that the personal computer revolution has failed, you are not in control, and you never were.

As long as he continues to use Windows, this is true.  :)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 17, 2012, 07:04:48 PM
Accept the fact that the personal computer revolution has failed, you are not in control, and you never were.

As long as he continues to use Windows, this is true.  :)

I knew you were gonna say this, so I pre-prepared a response. :D
How much work/fun can you get done on your (linux) computer without the Internet?

:diablo:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 17, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
Quote
Accept the fact that the personal computer revolution has failed, you are not in control, and you never were.

My people believe you are not defeated until you accept that you are defeated.  We come from the northern lands of the ice and snow, the desolate wastes of Eastern Europe, and the endless forests of denial.



Also from France, but that doesn't seem to fit in as well.  :shrug:  Maybe that's where we get our sneer.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 17, 2012, 08:17:47 PM
Accept the fact that the personal computer revolution has failed, you are not in control, and you never were.

As long as he continues to use Windows, this is true.  :)

I knew you were gonna say this, so I pre-prepared a response. :D
How much work/fun can you get done on your (linux) computer without the Internet?

:diablo:

 :confused:

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 17, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
You control everything about your computer. But. Nothing outside of it. The more things turn to crap on the Internet, the more I think we really lost the personal computer revolution. We, meaning "everyone."

Anyway. I am just really in a mood right now. sorry
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 17, 2012, 09:19:12 PM
:lol:  No, I get what you're saying.

I still believe the core of the internet is hypertext, and the core job of the browser is to retrieve and render hypertext, and one of the cores of hypertext is that the user controls how it's rendered.

A browser that doesn't give you good control over that shit is a shitty browser.  No matter how many fancy plug-ins it has.  If the content provider wants to block you from retrieving their content unless you watch their ads, or whatever, then that's fine as long as it's up-front and their control methods aren't intrusive.  Otherwise, they're shitty content providers.

The End.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 17, 2012, 09:43:37 PM
Yeah, I got that too. Sad, but excellent point.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 17, 2012, 11:04:12 PM
Oh yeah.  I getcha.   :(
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on January 18, 2012, 09:34:06 PM
And, incidentally, if I have told you to FUCKING STOP, you sure as hell had better not start up again on your own in a few seconds.  Or even five minutes.  If I have stopped you, I will tell you when to refresh, update, etc.  You do not have permission to traipse around the internet or steal resources without my say-so.

Do.  Not.

Yeah, it often takes the Mini two or three force quits before Firefox will shut down. And then it wants me to send a report of what I was doing when it happened.

I WAS ON THE INTERNET YOU FUCKS
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 18, 2012, 09:43:05 PM
:lol:

But I feel for ya.


IE just has more and more problems with Netflix all the time, which I presume is mostly Netflix 'upgrade' dickery, not that it really matters.  Netflix stops being in my price range if I have to drop $300 for a new machine to run it on.

But anyway, one of the two of the constant tricks IE plays is The I'm Out Of Memory! game, where it stops playing a video and/or crashes, with a dialog box telling me that I've used up all available memory.  All of it, bitches!  Except that I have Task Manager running, and I can see a record of how much memory is being used, and you weren't even using a third of it.

The other trick is the IE Was Forced To Shut Down! trick, where it instantly reopens IE (seriously, much much faster than a cold open) and reopens any tags.  I love these moments because IE doesn't give any reason or explanation.  Just forced to shut down.

At least it reopens and usually remembers what I had going on.  Standards have been lowered.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on January 19, 2012, 12:29:19 AM
Quote
I WAS ON THE INTERNET YOU FUCKS

 :rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin:

Oh god. I can't stop laughing at this.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 19, 2012, 10:26:07 AM
I'm sure the day is coming when error reports will just say "Probably something you did."
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 21, 2012, 10:59:31 PM
Gmail problems, not machine-specific.  I was having them at work, under Firefox, and now I'm having some of them again under old IE.

Two main ones:

- It reverts to a low-contrast theme that literally hurts my eyes.  If go to the many-spoked cog in the far upper right and select Mail Settings and go to Themes, there's a bland list of lame themes to choose from, like desktop wallpaper options from Windows 95.  But no matter what I pick, it goes back to the low-contrast one.  I can get it to stick with Blue for awhile, but it'll go back to bland.

But if I go to the fewer-spoked cog drop-down menu icon that's not quite as far in the upper right (seriously, Google, WTF is up with this?), and select Themes, I get a different list of themes, most of which just have slightly different color arrangements.  But it also has two called Preview and Preview (Dense) that look interesting.

None of those theme icons actually change anything, though.  You get the I'm Working On It rotator thing, but nothing else ever happens.  :shrug:


- If I send a note, and then someone responds, sometimes their response doesn't turn up in the Inbox.  But if I go to Sent Mail, their response will appear 'in conversation' grouped with the note I sent.  Noticed this at work, and I really wish I'd noticed it a couple of days ago, when they actually responded.  It's happened at least twice that I've found so far, with two different Gmail accounts, so it doesn't happen frequently, but that's pretty annoying.  And in one case it may have killed a sale.


Seriously, they piss me off with their constant bell-and-whistling but not paying attention to actually making their email program do email.  Learn to walk before you run and before you try jumping through the ether with the internet balanced on your dick, yo.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 21, 2012, 11:02:13 PM
I should add:  I have not had these problems with the basic HTML version of Gmail, which I still use for my busier account, in Opera, with JS turned off.  That version looks better, is incomparably faster, and works like a charm.

/just saying
//although I wish it had autosave for composition, somehow
///and that the save / send / discard buttons weren't virtually identical and side by side  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 22, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
I want an app that would prevent all Windows applications from knowing where the mouse cursor is UNLESS and only unless I have moved the mouse cursor since that application became active.

This would apply to Windows subapps themselves, like the Start menu, and menus themselves would be treated like subapps in that the menu doesn't get to know where the mouse cursor is unless I've moved the cursor since I opened that menu.

I would really, REALLY like to have an app that did that.  It would improve Windows and Window apps by like 50%.  Context-sensitive controls that don't understand context are the evidence of complete incompetence on the part of software designers.  They are as stupid as the old SF parody groaner about voice-activated computers that always think you're talking to them.

Yeah, I know that's happened in real life, too, but, again, same level of incompetence.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 25, 2012, 02:31:47 PM
Went to hibernate the ThinkPad.  Windows informed me that it had updates to install but wouldn't install them if I just hibernated the thing.

Fine, god damn it.  Shut it down.  Restarted it later.

Now there's no sound . . . except through the headphone jack.  Fucking hell, Windows.  It still beeps during boot, and this thing has like four or five speakers, so I tend to blame the Windows update.  I've been hunting through the sound and hardware settings, but I can't find anything that's changed.

God, I hate this shit.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 25, 2012, 03:48:54 PM
When I'm writing an email in the fancy (non-Basic HTML) version of Gmail, since the most recent 'upgrade', the composition box scrolls upward about five lines (but it's approximate, not the same amount each time) every time that I hit Enter or the system autosaves the note.

That means that for a note of any length, at least a dozen times it scrolls the part where I'm currently adding text off the bottom of the part of the note displayed in the box.  And if I keep typing, it doesn't reset the view, so I can't see what I'm typing unless I scroll back down.

Type, type, type :eyeroll: mouse in the scrollbar . . . type, type :eyeroll: mouse in the scrollbar . . . type, type, type :cyber:


STOP FIXING THINGS.


Yes, like it says, "endless".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 27, 2012, 08:16:31 PM
I went into Task Manager and killed the user process of the ATI adapter because it was, once again, eating resources like a hog with a shop vac plugged into its ass.  I do this sometimes when my machine bogs down, and as far as I can tell the only result, ever, is that the machine stops bogging down.  Unless IE gets uppity, anyway.

This time, a side effect is that the ThinkPad's speakers started working again.

Yay!  But WTF, Windows?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 27, 2012, 11:03:07 PM
System sluggish.  IE, running just Gmail, was using as much memory as Opera, which had thirteen windows and I don't even know how many tabs open.  Certainly more than 100.

Close IE, bam, system's dandy.

Microsoft, seriously, you suck.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 06:03:26 PM
I gave in and let Windows install its updates on my other ThinkPad.

Now the battery light flashes all the time, and I don't know why.  Also, the battery and power management utility is completely different.  Isn't that a Lenovo thing?  Why would Windows update that automatically?  And why would Lenovo change it?  This is a T42, from 2003 or something.  You wouldn't think they'd be replacing the power management utility.  But this new one is horrible.  It has far fewer options and won't let me reset the battery or tell me much of anything about the system status.

Fucking hell, I'm going to just color in over the light with a permanent marker.  So goddamn annoying.  It was working fine!  Don't replace the things that work instead of fixing the things that don't.  And don't replace the things that work with new things that don't work.  This should not even have to be said.


Also, when I do some happy day abandon Windows forever, one of the things I will miss least is LSASS.EXE running the hard drive constantly, all the time, for no apparent reason.  It routinely accounts for 10-20% (sometimes more) of all the disk I/O on these machines, under Win XP.  This is not Langley; I cannot believe there's that much security bullshit to handle.  I want to slap you off the drive so hard that your original programmers bleed from their ears.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 06:04:22 PM
As it turns out, now I don't have permission to change the power settings, even when logged in as the administrator.

:stbm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 29, 2012, 06:31:45 PM
you have happened across the thing I love most about Lenovo. Two completely independent power management systems (one theirs, one Windows) that are inherently in conflict. And are both enabled by default.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 29, 2012, 06:32:09 PM
I also love this about HP laptops, btw.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2012, 06:52:10 PM
I've only extensively used one HP laptop.  It was very slick, but whenever something went wrong . . . it was a disaster.  And stuff went wrong about once every two months.

I personally like the ThinkPads because I find them very consistent, I like their trackpads and backup pointer-thing, I like the keyboards a LOT as laptop keyboards go, and they have a tradition of being straightforward low-bullshit.

The CD/DVD drives still tend to crap out after a few years, but the ones in laptops seem to be cheap that way.  I guess they figure most people will have bought a newer laptop within four years or so anyway.  Most people.

I'm tempted to go look for a replacement battery for this thing, but if I buy it and it doesn't improve anything, meh, wasted money.  But I'm considering it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 30, 2012, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: google via browser
Your search - bozarrecpmressopms - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

  •     Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
  •     Try different keywords.
  •    Try more general keywords.

Oh c'mon. That should be easy to figure out.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 30, 2012, 02:44:25 PM
Jeez, nowadays Google usually just assumes it knows what you really want, even if it's nothing to do with what you told it you wanted.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on January 30, 2012, 02:49:29 PM
YOOOO, I'LL TELL YOU WANT I WANT, WHAT I REALLY REALLY WANT
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 30, 2012, 02:59:10 PM
My stupid fingers regularly type www.bizarrecompressions.com, with similar results.

Okay, similar to Hmof's.  No Spice Girls.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 30, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
YOOOO, I'LL TELL YOU WANT I WANT, WHAT I REALLY REALLY WANT

Great. Earworm. Have you heard the "Closer to Spice" mashup of this with NiN?

Quote from: scary and trent (ok that's redundant)
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna I wanna ... fuck you like an animal, I wanna feel you from the inside ...
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 30, 2012, 06:38:30 PM
Bizarre Compressions sounds NSFW.



I'll probably go hunting for alternate versions of the Lenovo / IBM power management thing later tonight.  This thing is just driving me crazy.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 30, 2012, 07:36:32 PM
PONOPLS

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/09/1283700232196-1283707016.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on January 30, 2012, 11:51:45 PM
Oh jeeze. I actually said that out loud a while back at Kroger. Then I laughed. Not a lot of people stayed in my way in the produce section, interestingly enough.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on January 31, 2012, 12:27:37 AM
Lilia brought home some work she'd done, drawing pictures of "p" words and best-guess spelling them.  She drew

Pinapl
PLem
PLat
Popsekl
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 31, 2012, 12:37:55 AM
POPSEKL. EXCELLENT.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on January 31, 2012, 12:42:49 AM
I know, that's my favorite one.   :love:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on January 31, 2012, 03:22:05 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 31, 2012, 07:29:09 AM
(http://guildhaven.org/images/popsekl.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 31, 2012, 08:40:04 AM
:lol:  Afreakingdorable.  And I want to recaption the Bitches don't know 'bout my popsicle pic.


I'm lost on "PLem".  My brain is stuck on pilum, which seems unlikely.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on January 31, 2012, 09:30:16 AM
plum maybe?

One of Toby's spellings words this week is February.  REALLY???
 

Fixed that fat finger flub.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 31, 2012, 01:24:45 PM
If February?  But it's still January.  Well, I guess it'll be February by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 31, 2012, 01:27:55 PM
Dude, tomorrow is February.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on January 31, 2012, 01:56:37 PM
Yeah, it's "plum".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on January 31, 2012, 04:53:20 PM
Put it on a string and it could be "plumb".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 31, 2012, 07:35:54 PM
Dude, tomorrow is February.

I knew February was the short month, but I could have sworn it was longer than just that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 31, 2012, 08:05:44 PM
I was actually just making fun of the "if" / "is" typo.

Lame dry humor sometimes needs a spinning bowtie to even get noticed.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 31, 2012, 08:24:58 PM
Oh I got it.  I was just spinning off in my usual direction.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 31, 2012, 09:06:56 PM
I'm afraid that without seeing a bowtie, I don't know if I should believe you or not.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 31, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
You'll just have to guess.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 31, 2012, 09:11:39 PM
I'm treating it as Schroedinger's Joke.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on January 31, 2012, 09:17:26 PM
I didn't get it because she fixed the typo.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 31, 2012, 10:25:36 PM
What?  You can't take back a straight line!

:P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on February 01, 2012, 09:19:36 AM
HA HA HA (make sure you hear that like count dracula)

Yes! I fixed the typo but I also said I fixed it.  I would have just struck through it but I didn't think about it that hard. 

Anyway, I like making you look a little crazy.  :D
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 01, 2012, 09:36:32 AM
I am a fish in that barrel, no question.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on February 01, 2012, 01:31:37 PM
Dammit, now I want a cherry popsicle. :drool:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 03, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
So . . . Gmail is for shit with IE 8.  The interface is totally messed up, with elements often appearing on top of message text, and you frequently can't get the message text to scroll, etc, etc.  Just utterly broken crap.  But, hey, they only ruined their perfectly good product in order to make the buttons fancy (and worse) and to add minimal fringe functionality that no one cares much about.

Fine.  Douchebags.  Log in as Admin, go to Microsoft's idiotically structured updates page . . . which doesn't seem to work properly with IE 8, either, to be honest.  FINE.  Just give me IE 9 so we can prolong this farce.

Oops.  IE 9 can't be installed unless we 'upgrade' to Vista or Windows 7.


Dear Google:  My plan is to sodomize you with Microsoft mounted on the end of a telephone pole -- without removing the climbing spikes -- and not stop until the vowels fall out of your name.  Because you deserve it.

Sincerely,

A Former Fan
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 03, 2012, 02:41:53 PM
they're called, "J hooks".

 ;)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 03, 2012, 03:53:30 PM
:lol:

I don't think the people at Google know that, and I'm not sure they could still successfully google it, considering how crappy Google has gotten at doing searches.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 03, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
I had to check to make sure that "J hook" wasn't the term for what a software company does when they make a change in one product to force customers to install or upgrade another product.

Maybe there isn't a term. If not, maybe you should enter that in the Urban Dictionary.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 03, 2012, 06:41:22 PM
when i trained to climb utility poles (wood ones) there were still quite a few in vegas with j hooks. we were told to never use them as they are old and would probably fall out if you stepped on them.

we used our gaffs and hands. yay splinters!! i gaffed out and fell down about 20'. the first few feet down the pole were spent hugging it. i still have scars on my chest from the splinters.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/2683025405_db3f36c59b.jpg)

If you like gaffing, the art of climbing telephone poles with foot spikes, this is the place for you. These poles are great because there is no electricity, and no one to call you in to the police for climbing on telephone poles in front of their house. Those little pits on the pole are from the spikes on the gaffs, created as utility workers climb up and down the pole.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 03, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
They had like three sets of linesman's gaffs at a pawn shop I used to frequent back in Nebraska.  I was tempted, but they wanted $60 for the crappiest set.  I must've been going to that shop for like five years, and they never sold any of them, but they had a strict policy of no haggling.

:shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on February 03, 2012, 07:16:47 PM
Is that a gaff gaffe? :bolt:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 03, 2012, 07:44:53 PM
Laff.



Hey, does Firefox have a setting or plugin that prevents a page from auto-refreshing?  I don't know how to make IE do that, if it's even possible.

Facebook is TERRIBLE at it but insists on doing it constantly.  They're always finding new ways to annoy me, but ye gods.  And of course 2/3 of the time IE asks me if I want to only display stuff that was loaded securely . . . not that it will tell me what the hell it's talking about.  Because surely the average user can safely answer an important security question without knowing what the browser is referring to.

Of course, that box pops up and accepts input without you changing the focus, so half the time Fbook refreshes while I'm typing a comment, and then IE pops up the dialog box, and I hit space or Enter because I'M ALREADY USING THE KEYBOARD YOU INCOMPETENT INBRED MORONS and now I've agreed to something.

Yay.

But anyway.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 04, 2012, 08:26:15 AM
I . . . uh . . . fuck, I hate Microsoft.  I just realized, as I was checking my other Gmail account, that I have Gmail running on IE 8 under Windows XP on this machine, and although it's ugly and clunkier since they 'upgraded' it, it works perfectly fine.

So now I just have to figure out what's different about IE 8 at home vs IE 8 at work that makes Gmail a two-train derailment there.

THAT should be easy.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 04, 2012, 08:46:41 AM

Hey, does Firefox have a setting or plugin that prevents a page from auto-refreshing?  I don't know how to make IE do that, if it's even possible.


It's an option in FF preferences itself, no plugin neccesary.

The option reads: "Warn me when a website tries to redirect or reload the page."

A bar appears across the top of the screen displaying the warning and offers a simple override "Allow" button. It would be nice to have the ability to allow certain sites and not others. If that's available, I'm not aware of it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 04, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Yeah, needs that kind of thing.  And I don't want to have to click something every time.

Opera used to make that sort of thing easy, although not site-specific.  Probably a way to do it site-specific, but I never dug that deep.  The later versions aren't quite as friendly.  It's trivial to make a page refresh at any interval you like, but not vice-versa.

I'm trying to think of a site that I prefer to have auto-refresh on its own authority.  Auto-refresh elements might be necessary for some kind of online money-related thing I do, although I tend to doubt it, but for Facebook, news sites, sports sites, all that junk . . . no.  Really, really no.

I've been hitting The Guardian for news lately, but when I do bother going back to CNN, I always use cnn.com/?refresh=0.  The stupid page still sometimes refreshes itself.  I know web developers think this is smart and helpful and snazzy, but it's just a fundamental failure of comprehension.  The page exists as a reference to content.  Don't change the page behind my back.  It's like changing the radio in my car without permission, or like taking a tool out of my hands.

I would a hundred times rather have a link stop working because you changed the URL or linked content availability than have you change the page.  And the browser should let me stop you.  It's on my goddamned machine now, and it's HTML; the user is supposed to be in control of that shit.  If the links are out of date, I can refresh the page.

These people would design cups that automatically tilt and pour out their contents, and if you didn't happen to have your mouth in the right place at the right time, they'd think you were the one doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 04, 2012, 10:46:20 AM
Yeah, needs that kind of thing.  And I don't want to have to click something every time.

You don't have to click it unless you want the page to reload or redirect. It's non-obtrusive - it's not in the middle of the screen.

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I'm trying to think of a site that I prefer to have auto-refresh on its own authority...

Well if one were to use Twitter, I think that's part of the basic premise, or design. Another example might be something like the Fark Forum, back in the day when there was a lot of traffic. It would be nice for the page to automatically refresh when someone made a new comment. But I'm not sure if that's how the refresh works anyway. I don't know if it refreshes on predetermined cycle, or once there is new data.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 04, 2012, 12:13:43 PM
See, I totally would not want it to refresh every time someone made a new comment -- although I can completely understand why a lot of people would. 

If the refreshing could happen so gently in the background that I didn't notice the machine was up to something, or if the pages were written so that NOTHING MOVED while it was updating itself, and so long as all content that I already had loaded remained available after the refresh, I'd be OK with that.

Pages that refresh and automatically jump back to the top, that's a huge fail.  Pages that scroll when they refresh, that's a fail.  Fbook does that all the time -- I'll be typing a comment, Fbook will laboriously update itself, and the text box will scroll off the page.  BRING THAT THE FUCK BACK YOU DEGENERATE SLACKJAWED SHITLUMPS.

God, it's like they want to shake the book I'm trying to read.  No.  Hands off.  I will slap you so hard that your name will swell up.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 05, 2012, 02:59:05 PM
I thought of you several times yesterday as I was dealing with some new scanner software. It's some of the poorest design I've ever seen, and very aggravating. It was bundled with the (Epson) scanner, which has its own software, but this "SilverFast" software adds additional functionality.

It's German software, and the tutorials feature Deiter explaining things in a condescending voice. The software required email registration before it would allow updates, and forced me to type out the 200 digit serial number like 10 times during the process. There's also a tech assist forum, and it appears they use some kind of translation service. There's also a tech assist forum, and here's a comment that I found appropriate:

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I like what Silverfast offers me, but the whole interface seems very clunky - very odd in how it chooses which windows receive the focus, how it seems to ignore Apple standards for OSX applications (not to mention the occasional Kernal panic (see below). The odd Universal Launcher - not show stoppers but baffling. Like I said, the functionality seems very good but the entire interface seems to be really poorly designed.

It's like it's not written for Macs, they've just done some things to make it work on Macs. It's kind of scary. There is no application that I can see, just the "launcher" mentioned above. It's supposed to work as a Photoshop plugin, but you have to start Photoshop from their icon, which can lead to having 2 different Photoshops running.

And this is one of the leading scanners on the market. I read many reviews before choosing this one. It's the oddest thing I've run across in a while.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/deiter.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 05, 2012, 04:32:09 PM
:lol: :thumbsdn:

Everybody and their cousin wants to do something 'fancy' and not just have a standard app for whatever.  Good god, it's horrible.  I mean, for instance, Windows standards?  They're not good.  But almost every time someone goes off-standard (including godbedamned Microsoft), the results are utter shit.

I can't remember the last time I used a print or scanner utility, or antivirus program, for instance, that was JUST A FUCKING WINDOWS APP.  No, they always have to look fancy and not follow Windows standards . . . and they're always worse.

Just.  Give.  Me:

- Windows that behave properly.  Open, close, launch normally.  Let me resize them.  Do not have them always be on top unless there is one hell of a good reason for that.

- Normal drop-down menus, in the normal places, with normal functionality.

- Normal controls.  Your app is not a web page; it should not have pseudo-HTML 'links' for controls.  Hotkeys should appear when I press the Alt key.

If you can't do this stuff, don't write Windows apps.  I realize you may think you can improve on the Windows interface, and I can understand why you might think so, but apparently not.  Lotus 1-2-3 gave up for the common good, and you're not better than them.


(Not you, but the generic 'you'.  You know.)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 05, 2012, 05:34:45 PM
Heh. You know I really don't need much from scanner software, because I'm going to open it in Photoshop to make all my adjustments, but these things just bug me. You say it will do something, but it doesn't. Even if I don't need it, I'm driven for some reason to find out why it doesn't work.

I've been doing more research on it, and I found this letter from their #1 competitor who says it's written for PowerMacs, not Intel Macs. The market for scanners is not what it used to be, so the company has been struggling and they can't really afford to be writing new programs. They just tweaked the existing program instead. The upgrade they sell is binary. He also says the Epson (free) software is better. I just tried it out, and I agree the UI is better, but there's some functionality lost.

I dunno. I guess I'll try the SilverFast for a while, and if it gives me trouble I'll just use the Epson. I'm sure not going to pay for the upgrade. I'd buy the competitor's product before I did that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 05, 2012, 06:04:02 PM
We use two low-end simple scanners at work, and each is a huge pain in the ass.  One is an HP, and its software is so-so.  The other is a Brother, and it's the kind where it wants you to use buttons on the scanner to control what it does on your computer.  To me, that's ass-backwards.

All we really need is to be able to:

- Tell it to start a scan.

- Change selection area on the scanning table.  (Frankly, we could live without this, since all the image-manipulation software we use will do cropping.)

- Choose scanning resolution.  In practice, we never do low-color or black-and-white scans, but adding a drop box to choose that is no big deal.

- Choose to save a scan image to disk.  An actually GOOD app would open the regular Save File dialog box, not just save the files to a subdirectory of its own choosing buried in a nest of directories automatically installed when you installed the scanner.  The HP scanner behaves properly in this regard, although it's a bit clunky.

Nevertheless, there's always an overcomplicated app that doesn't behave properly.  If it's an all-in-one and you want to make it possible to use it as a copier without having to go all the way over to the computer (it DOES come with a 4' USB cable, after all), then putting a Copy button on the machine is fine.  Although the Copy button behaves retardedly, I must say, but you can learn its quirks.

Point is, this does not need to be complicated.  Just like how printers made for average consumer use should have their color ink labeled Red, Yellow, and Blue.  Don't be a dick, printer manufacturer.  PC LOAD LETTER, indeed.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 06, 2012, 09:07:37 AM
Oh, it turns out the way I made Gmail work again under IE at home was . . . use the Temporarily Switch Back To The Old Look option.  Which, of course, they keep saying they're going to discontinue at some unspecified time Real Soon.

:eyeroll:

I guess it's time I figured out how the POP thing works with Gmail so I can install Thunderbird or something on the downstairs computer at work.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 07, 2012, 07:51:29 PM
My slightly older 'old' ThinkPad, which I only use for watching TV nowadays, has developed an annoying problem:

If you wake it or reboot it, you get the Windows XP boot screen, complete with Cylon Knight Rider moving progress bar.  (Of course, you shouldn't see that when you're just waking it.)  Then the screen goes black and the drive runs like crazy.

Leave it alone for just under seven minutes . . . and it reboots . . . and starts up normally.

:shrug:

Have the feeling I'll have to replace it soon.  The DVD drive already went tits up, anyway.  Mrrr.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 10, 2012, 09:21:24 PM
Farking hell . . . my 'newer' ThinkPad is the one whose power management got screwed last time Windows updated.

Well, a little while ago it was all Shutting Down . . . and it shut itself off.  :confused:

Fuck that.  I turned it back on to see WTF.  Battery Power 0%, it says. 

(A)  Why?

(B)  You're plugged in, you idiot.

Poke around at the new useless power management app.  It says it's started a battery reset, and I have to leave the machine off for ten hours.

There's no option to cancel, or anything, so to hell with it.  I'm just ignoring it.  I can see that even if I can find a replacement app at Lenovo that actually works (and Windows doesn't helpfully replace it again), this battery is probably toast.  I'll have to get a new battery or give up and buy a new machine.

This machine still works fine . . . when the power isn't being a problem . . . and LSASS isn't doing its new trick of bogging everything down by churning the drive endlessly.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 14, 2012, 02:41:57 PM
Now, see, this is a good example of why I could never replace Opera with Firefox:

Firefox, when I tell you to stop, you STOP.  Stop loading shit, stop rendering shit, just stop.  And do not then get rid of what you'd rendered so far to give me an error page.  I told you to stop, not make excuses.  And don't start loading stuff on that page again in five seconds.  You do not have permission.  You know goddamned well I told you to stop.

I swear to god, not giving high priority to user interrupts is like teabagging the user.  Utter obnoxious amateur bullshit.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 10, 2012, 11:45:59 PM
Grrr . . .

A)  Again, two nearly identical ThinkPads, with identical versions of XP.  Tell one to hibernate, and it takes about 25 seconds.  Resuming from Off takes slightly longer (to the login screen).

The other machine . . . spends a little over seven minutes trying to get through the progress bar for Hibernate and then turns itself off.  Turn it back on, and it resumes trying to Hibernate.  For about another three minutes.  Then it turns itself off again.  I have to interrupt this with a hard power-off and then power it back on. 

Hibernate simply works like it should with one system and not at all with the other.  Well, it mostly works as it should with one . . .


B)  I did download and install a replacement Power Management app from Lenovo.  It was the only one they had for this machine, and it sucks compared to the one that was on the machine when I got it, but it's still better than the one Windows Update put on here a few months ago.  (That one ruined the battery by refusing to recharge properly.)

BUT.  In the first place, the new power management always claims the battery level is critical if it's on battery power, even momentarily, even when I actually have two hours of battery power left.  It's just a panicky bitch.

Also, it's set to Hibernate if the machine is idle for fifteen minutes.  In actuality, sometimes I'll go away, come back and hour later, and find the screen hasn't even gone black.  And sometimes I'll leave the machine alone for five or ten minutes and come back to find it hibernating.

:shrug:

Fucking Windows, man.  OK, the Lenovo power management app isn't a Microsoft app, but it was Microsoft that, without permission or warning, uninstalled the good power management app that used to be on here.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 19, 2012, 12:45:58 PM
Google finally got around to polluting their non-JS GIS with the stupid new design.  Gah, that's fucking ugly, awkward, and harder to use. 

I don't understand how they went from a 2005 adequate comprehension of how to use frames and moved back to a GeoCities-atrocious design.

Well, there must be other image search services out there.  If not, there will be.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 21, 2012, 11:05:24 AM
I just have to say this:

I have never wanted, or found it convenient, for a VCR to automatically start playing a tape just because I put the tape in.  Just be ready.  I will tell you what to do. 

By the same token, I have never wanted, or found it convenient, for a CD or DVD to start playing just because I put it into the computer.  And because Microsoft is medieval in its incompetent handling of hardware I/O, it is routinely extremely inconvenient

(And, no, holding down SHIFT for twenty seconds after I put the disk in, that is not in any way convenient, either.  And thinking, OK, surely that's been long enough, and then lifting my finger off of SHIFT only to have the damned thing suddenly autoplay the disk . . . that is incentive to murder.)

I realize that many disks, such as install disks, are made to autoplay and don't work well unless you autoplay them.  This is in no way any justification for the autoplay system.  It is moronic design fostered by Microsoft.  Some people excuse MS for this by saying that they copied it from Apple, but I am not able to fully comprehend a mind that thinks this is some kind of an excuse.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 22, 2012, 07:18:18 AM
Why is Windows Update not smart enough to run when the machine isn't busy?  Why is this important part of the OS not as smart as a 1988 screensaver?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 03, 2012, 09:32:23 AM
Speaking of stupid update processes.  I still have AVG on one of my machines.  It frequently decides to update when it's not supposed to.  Can't detect when the machine is or isn't busy.  Retarded.

Go in, laboriously wade through settings, make changes where I can.  No more automatic this or that.  I'll have to do it manually -- it will still be easier.  Because you suck.

OH RIGHT -- I'm not logged in as the admin, so I don't have permission to make these changes that it just took me ten minutes to hunt down and change.  And still, to this day, I've never used the XP do-this-as-another-user thing and had it work.

So, fine, fuck it.  I'll log in as admin later and redo the changes, if I remember.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 03, 2012, 10:23:41 AM
Great Pepe's pocket lint, man! Install Avast instead. It's worlds better than AVG.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 03, 2012, 10:42:32 AM
I have Avast on my other machine.  It's mostly better, but it pesters me constantly about minor things, and I can't seem to change the settings in a way that will make it shut up.

Worse, it pesters from the System Tray.  The System Tray is a goddamned abomination that's characteristic of everything Microsoft does not understand about the 'user interface' concept.  It doesn't work like the rest of the UI and is completely half-assed.  Icons there don't mean what icons elsewhere mean; they're not necessarily shortcuts, and they're not exactly tabs, and you can't task-switch to them normally, and they have permission (beyond the user's control) to behave in random ways.

Messages pop up from there in ways that suggest the developers are unfamiliar with dialog and message boxes.  You, Windows fucking standards.  There's virtually no keyboard support, and often as not the shit down there is broken.  But when you even have the option of telling a goddamned app not to show up in the fucking idiotic System Tray, often it means you can only access the thing, when it's running, through the half-assed goddamned Task Manager.

:cyber:

Anyway, Avast is better, but . . . not better enough to be worth uninstalling AVG and then installing Avast all over again on my second machine.

Also, the renew feature on Avast never works for me.  When it's time to renew it, I have to uninstall it, download it again, and reinstall it.  I thought this was just me, but one of my cow-orkers had to do the same thing with a machine at work, and then another cow-orker had to do the same thing with the other machine at work.

Still better than AVG.  But.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2012, 11:03:50 AM
I don't know what's going on today, but LSASS and Avast have both decided that Google is the devil.  Try to access any Google site, and Avast starts running, and LSASS starts churning the drive so hard that everything slows to a crawl.  The page will barely load, if it loads at all. 

I tried opening a simple Google search page as a test while I was watching the Task Manager this morning, and . . . nope . . . and I went to do some other stuff . . . and . . . nope.  Gave up after over an hour of trying to load.

Kind of sucks, since I use Gmail for work.  But my other machine, with the dreaded AVG, has no problems with Google today, LSASS or otherwise.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
OK, AVG is getting the boot.  It just detected two tracking cookies it regards as dangerous.  It pops up to tell me this and gives me these options, in this order:

- Add to the Exceptions File, in which case it will never bother detecting them again.

- Go to File, by which it means open the directory the cookies are in.  You know, a stupid Windows 'internet crap directory' that Windows will insist on displaying abnormally, no matter what I say, and that will have 9600 objects in it that Windows doesn't want to tell me much about.

- Ignore, in which case it will always ignore these cookies from now on.

NO FUCKING 'DELETE'?

Useless crap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2012, 09:45:08 PM
Plus, I was watching Hulu in full screen mode, and AVG knows it's supposed to not interrupt full screen unless it's an emergency, which this was not.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 12, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
On Google News, normally you can click on an article body and it will expand, showing other articles on the same subject from different sources, and a link that offers all related stories. Today it appears that link is gone, replaced by a link labeled "see realtime coverage", which takes you to a page that looks like the "see all related articles" page, except it updates as new articles are becoming available every few seconds, making it impossible to read. Nice work, Google.

Anyone know another decent news aggregator?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 12, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
For my needs, Google News hasn't been a good news aggregator in years.  Every time they fancied it up, they decreased its actual utility.

Frak is better if you're looking for interesting stories.  I find the LA Times / Boston Globe / BBC News websites better overall.  I basically only use Google News to find the local news, since the local newspaper's website is like the wreck of a freight train that was carrying vomit tankers.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 12, 2012, 11:32:41 AM
Incidentally, what really pisses me off about Google News these days is that they finally put in a native way to say Stop Showing Me News Stories From These Sources . . . kinda . . . but it doesn't work for shit.

Fuck.  You.

Google just really seems to have no interest in what users might actually want.  I see this across all their products that I use.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 12, 2012, 11:50:34 AM
I agree. It's all just ad bait.

Also, there is a new link that says "Want better news? Create a Google Account to get Google News personalized for you." There's been something like that on there before, but this is a little different, and the timing is obviously no coincidence. I don't think I ever mentioned, I actually finally created a Google account a few months ago, because I needed to use their online spread sheet app. I installed Chrome and only use it when I have to use something specifically Google.

I thought of Fark, and it is a good source of news, but the funny headlines can sometimes be difficult to interpret. PopURLs is another one that's pretty good.

I like LA Times / Boston Globe / BBC News, but none of them individually is as all-encompassing as Google News. Maybe it's just because it's what I'm accustomed to, and I need to ween myself off it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 12, 2012, 11:54:19 AM
This place I've heard of called Fark has a lot of links and headlines, now, and some are pretty funny.

I'd skip the comments threads, though, just like any other place. Unless you know you feel like feeling humanity should be made extinct.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 12, 2012, 12:00:28 PM
We need to create an alternative called Snark where all comments are sarcastic and the threads are moderated for cleverness and entertainment value.



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none of them individually is as all-encompassing as Google News

Actually, the idea of what Google News should be is pretty all-encompassing, but I've never found that it lives up to its potential.  It's awfully sloppy and perfunctory, in actual practice.

Good idea, if not terribly original; pretty lousy implementation, which has gone downhill.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 12, 2012, 06:32:39 PM
I think I'm going to give RSS a try for a while. I'm not too crazy about the format (live bookmarks), but I like having control over the sources.

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Death toll in Newton County crashes rises to 15 cows


Authorities assessing the damage from a series of vehicles crashes caused by cattle say that 15 escaped cows were killed in the Newton County wrecks.

Authorities say tell the Covington News that more than 40 cows got loose from a pasture along Ga. 11 around 10 p.m. Wednesday. They said that led to at least six accidents because drivers couldn't see the dark-colored cows.

Georgia State Patrol Trooper Moses Little says a Toyota van struck and killed seven cows. The van was demolished.

A Chevr0let pickup truck struck and killed three more cows. Authorities say three other animals had to be put down by a sheriff's deputy.

No serious injuries to humans were reported.

Bricton Farms owner C.L. Cook says the animals were worth about $40,000.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 12, 2012, 06:52:51 PM
A Toyota van struck and killed SEVEN cows?  Was the driver a tailor?  Was the van dropped from orbit?  Are these miniature toy cows?

Seriously, I don't want to see photos or anything, but WTF.  I don't think my full-sized Dodge van could have reasonably struck and killed more than three full-size cows if it was going 60 MPH.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 12, 2012, 07:01:14 PM
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Was the driver a tailor?

A bowler, I was thinking.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on May 14, 2012, 01:23:18 PM
I'm pretty much giving up on news again.  I'll just react after I encounter enough posts about something that actually intrigues me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 16, 2012, 09:48:33 PM
They've updated Silverlight, which of course (like most people who use Silverlight) I noticed at Netflix.

- You still have virtually zero control over the player.  Can't even change the cache size.  You also still can't do things like tell it not to start playing until it's cached enough to produce a decent quality image.  Consequently, about 50% of what I watch looks like crap for the first minute or more.

- Now you can turn subtitles on or off, if the playback content allows.  I haven't yet seen any Netflix Instant Play content that allows that, but I'm curious to see how well it works.

- Now, when you pause playback, you get a surprisingly nice "You're watching" message that tells you the title of the content and things like season and episode number, plus a short description.  It's taken right from the content's main page.  Not really sure it adds much, but it doesn't hurt.

- The play progress and caching bar is now fancier (yay?), but it's fuzzier in terms of actual information provided.  And the caching indicator is now apparently an optimistic lie.

- Least of all, the interface now appears ON TOP OF the playback instead of beneath it.  Because (of course!) it's better if you can obscure the content.  Anyone can see that.  (Unless it's hidden by the controls.  Then you can't see it.)

- I'm now getting display errors about a third of the time when I go to full-screen mode.  Annoying, but if you cancel full-screen and then go back, it usually fixes it on the first try.  Although really this is the second try. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 18, 2012, 07:27:57 PM
In defense of Silverlight, which is not something I often say or type, they did add one good (albeit obvious and 1988ish) feature:  If the controls are displayed, and you move the mouse cursor all the way to the side of the screen, the controls disappear promptly.  Hurrah!


Today I had to install the latest version of Flash.  I hate that for several reasons, not least of which is Fuck Adobe.

The fucking thing installed the Google Toolbar without asking me.  Fuck you and the horse you fucked your way here on.  Personally, installing software on my machine without my permission, I consider that assault.

Then the installer launched Opera, for some reason, and went to Gmail, and then crashed.

Not too impressive.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 19, 2012, 12:09:56 AM
not least of which is Fuck Adobe.

YEAH
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 20, 2012, 06:55:09 AM
Remember the story up there about the one driver killing seven cows?

Now, in the same county, 65 people are sent to the hospital in one accident (http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/19/us/georgia-bus-crash/index.html?hpt=us_c2) - 6 school buses and one car.

 :hmm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 20, 2012, 07:43:54 AM
Jesus Christ, people.  Spread out.


Around here there's a major problem with (A) failure to agree on the 'real' speed limit, and (B) failure to recognize that.  You can be going ten over the limit, in town, and have a tailgater losing his mind at how slow you're going, riding you to try to make you go faster.  Meanwhile, there are lots of people going five under the limit.

I'm kind of surprised there aren't more chain-reaction accidents like that here.  But most of the ones I've seen are from people not yielding at stop signs or right-on-reds.  That's also usually when pedestrians and cyclists get hit around here.  The whole 'stopping' thing is generally problematic in Michigan, as is right of way.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 25, 2012, 09:39:23 PM
In other news:

Why the COW-SUCKING SNAKEFUCK is the media foaming at the genitals over this 'ad-skipping DVR' bullshit?

They had these in 1998.  Remember 1998?  That was fourteen fucking years ago.  There was a big brouhaha over it for a couple of years.  Then we all realized that it was not an interesting topic.  Yes, advertisers and the people who rely on them hate it, or pretend to hate it, in varying degrees.  Yes, it means more ad placement, etc, which is usually clumsy and annoying (on purpose).

Shut the hell up and go back to blithering about the next missing white girl.

When there's a free DVR for Netflix that will suck down streaming video and then play it back for me without caching errors, then you can tell me all about it and the handwringing and shit.  But this other stuff is not news.  Not. 

I realize OJ isn't making a desperate bid for freedom this week, but jesus christ.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on May 28, 2012, 01:48:32 AM
Even more pressing, Travolta is gay.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on May 28, 2012, 02:46:12 PM
It's OK, though, because his Thetan is female. Right?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 28, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
Yes, but his engrams are gay.

Xenu was 'chained' to a 'volcano' and 'blown up' with 'atomic bombs', you know. 

I'm honestly not sure if there's anything wrong with that.  Depends on your interpretation, I guess.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 28, 2012, 06:35:33 PM
I'm not going to look, but out of curiosity I'm going to ask what his wife thinks of all this.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 28, 2012, 07:08:41 PM
Pretty sure Xenu wasn't the marrying type.


/just sayin'
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on May 29, 2012, 12:28:40 PM
I'm not going to look, but out of curiosity I'm going to ask what his wife thinks of all this.

i heard on the radio this morning that she's left for an extended vaction.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 29, 2012, 01:57:18 PM
I'm not going to look, but out of curiosity I'm going to ask what his wife thinks of all this.

i heard on the radio this morning that she's left for an extended vaction.

Like when Thomas Kinkade cashed in, the (ex)wife was like, "Oh we feel terrible. Welp, time to catch this plane to Hawaii!"
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 29, 2012, 02:36:05 PM
With that tongue?  Good luck!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 30, 2012, 07:01:55 PM
Have I mentioned that I hate Adobe?

Farking Flash player no longer works with Hulu.

- It refuses to let Hulu cache anything.  I can change the cache settings, but it keeps setting it back to zero.  Not a permissions thing; it just waits about thirty seconds and changes it back to zero.  Hulu didn't cache well in the first place.

- Make a change to any setting, and the player freezes for about twelve seconds.  Not great.

- It no longer allows pausing.  Instead, if I pause the video, the sound goes away and the video continues in jerky slow-motion for longer than I care to test, but it's at least about a minute's worth of playback (which takes several minutes of actual time).

- [edit]  Also, if you try pausing it, you can never get the sound and video to synch up again.  Even reloading the page doesn't do it.  Must be something cached somewhere . . . .


It claims I have the latest version.  Yay.  Better:  I know I don't have the latest version.  But we installed the latest version at work, and it crashes constantly, so I think I'd rather give up on Hulu than try manually installing that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on May 30, 2012, 10:27:33 PM
Well, which is it?



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Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on May 30, 2012, 10:59:30 PM
I HATE that window. It never means anything good at work.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 31, 2012, 08:28:24 AM
Everyone hates a dialog box that says You Can Do This Right Now, Or I Can Bug You Again Every Ten Minutes.


It's still slightly better than the I'm Rebooting Now, So I Hope You Weren't Doing Anything.

Both are predicated on the notion that the user does not and should not control the machine.  You're part of the process, but you're not one of the more important parts of the process.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 31, 2012, 08:32:28 AM
That is one area where Microsoft could really stand to learn a lot from something like Linux Mint. Updates are painless and nag and reboot free.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 31, 2012, 10:56:08 AM
Microsoft is generally terrible at most aspects of software design, but their market success convinces them that they don't need improvement.

I know I'm not a fan, but I don't think I'm exaggerating.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on May 31, 2012, 11:15:21 AM
Have I mentioned that I hate Adobe?

Farking Flash player no longer works with Hulu.

- It refuses to let Hulu cache anything.  I can change the cache settings, but it keeps setting it back to zero.  Not a permissions thing; it just waits about thirty seconds and changes it back to zero.  Hulu didn't cache well in the first place.

- Make a change to any setting, and the player freezes for about twelve seconds.  Not great.

- It no longer allows pausing.  Instead, if I pause the video, the sound goes away and the video continues in jerky slow-motion for longer than I care to test, but it's at least about a minute's worth of playback (which takes several minutes of actual time).

- [edit]  Also, if you try pausing it, you can never get the sound and video to synch up again.  Even reloading the page doesn't do it.  Must be something cached somewhere . . . .


It claims I have the latest version.  Yay.  Better:  I know I don't have the latest version.  But we installed the latest version at work, and it crashes constantly, so I think I'd rather give up on Hulu than try manually installing that.

the ads run great, though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 31, 2012, 11:55:20 AM
I still get really fucking angry whenever a fucking software install on fucking OS X requires a fucking reboot. It's fucking Unix, man, you do not need to fucking reboot it fucking ever, because your fucking software should not be fucking with the fucking kernel. Fuck!

ETA: went back and added all the adjectives that were required.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on May 31, 2012, 01:20:18 PM
You have to reboot because OBEY
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on May 31, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
It was more a comment on run or hide.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 31, 2012, 03:26:19 PM
Yes, but we have our own issues.


Quote
the ads run great, though.

Even worse, actually! 

Old:  Ads fail to load, Hulu waits through their scheduled running time, goes to program anyway.

New:  Ads fail to load, Hulu waits for them to load.  Thirty-second spot now takes two minutes, the video quality sucks, and the audio's out of synch.


Also, we updated Firefox at work, on two different machines, and now that crashes a whole lot.  On the plus side, now, when it crashes, it restarts with the option of reopening the pages that made it crash last time.  Will they make it crash again?  Seems about 50/50.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on May 31, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
It was more a comment on run or hide.

 :lol:


Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 31, 2012, 05:59:32 PM
Microsoft is generally terrible at most aspects of software design, but their market success convinces them that they don't need improvement.

I know I'm not a fan, but I don't think I'm exaggerating.

No, you're absolutely right.  I seem to recall Microsoft basically saying (in so many words) that they had no interest in or plans to move on from IE6 because they saw no way the browser experience could be improved from there.

Then, a year later, early releases of Firefox had already taken a 10-15% chomp out of IE6's marketshare, and Microsoft announced that IE7 with tabs and a built-in popup blocker were in the works.

Microsoft doesn't improve anything.  They wait until someone starts beating the crap out of one of their products and then they drag their feet to copy the features in that competing product, usually missing the point in the process.

As an example, I give you: IE7, IE8, and IE9.

All three are copies of varying stages of Firefox development, flaws included.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 06, 2012, 12:19:19 PM
Reinstalled Silverlight.  Good lord, what a depressing process.

- Silverlight's page autodetects if your system can install it, so it says, but then it doesn't tell you, and it recommends you check a really badly laid-out table to figure it out.

- When you go to that table, it's on a non-standard 'tab'.  Browser go-back commands don't return you to the previous tab, the one you can download Silverlight from, and I couldn't figure out how to do it from the page.  Possibly something failed to load.  I tried reloading the whole page and ended up just going back to Google to find the download page again, because that was faster.

- When you download it, the file is "Silverlight.exe" by default.  Except it's NOT Silverlight, of course; it's the installer.  So don't fucking get the name wrong.  What is so hard about "Silverlight Installer.exe"?  MS, you are all idiots.

- The installation process, at the same time, tells you that you're using the Silverlight installer, that Silverlight is installing, and that Silverlight is being installed.  YES, I UNDERSTAND.

Otherwise, no apparent changes from the old version (which apparently doesn't auto-update correctly), except that it's working again.

Yay!  (Because I'm done with installing it.)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 06, 2012, 01:17:39 PM
I'm done with installing it.

(http://www.andybaird.com/travels/skylarking/2010/Villains/Emperor-Palpatine.jpg)
Oh no, my young Jedi. You will find that it is you who are mistaken. About a great many things.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 06, 2012, 01:37:59 PM
:lol:

I'm done . . . for now.

Fuck the future!  I have been trained to savor temporary victories.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 06, 2012, 05:15:33 PM
And I woke up to Firefox 13 forcibly installed today.
I guess it's all right?

I dunno, I'm not having the huge problems with firefox that many, many others are experiencing. Maybe it's because I'm using NoScript as a blunt instrument to beat the Web into submission. NoScript is still really fantastic, and if it were on Chrome or Safari or WHATEVER I'd probably use them a bit more, but anyway.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 06, 2012, 09:50:37 PM
Opera has similar anti-ad provisions, but last time I looked at them they weren't as all-in-one.  There's an on-the-fly block-almost-anything (right-click, select Block Content, click on thing you want to make disappear), but its interface isn't quite what I wish.  And then you can download lists of stuff to have it automatically block.

The Linux pedigree shows through.  :lol:  It's somewhat automatic and somewhat DIY.  You won't get the most out of it if you stay in the user community, etc, etc.  Personally, I am too something or other for that, but I still like it semi-maximized.

Of course, if you're like me and do most of your browsing without JS, most ads don't even load, anyway.  BRILLIANT.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
Me to Google News settings:  No more Wall Street Journal.

Today's World News section at Google News:  Nothing but Wall Street Journal articles.  Hell, the first one is a round-up of WSJ film reviews.  So not only is the opposite of what I told Google to give me, but apparently the most important thing happening in the world is what some WSJ schlub was told to think about Prometheus and Madagascar 3.

:nonplused:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2012, 12:14:12 PM
Actually, all of the World News stories Google gave me from the WSJ are bullshit non-world-news stories:

Review Revue: 'Prometheus,' 'Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted'

House Republicans Step Up BrightSource Probe

New York Photos of the Week June 2nd – June 8th

Beyond the Tried-and-True: Generating Cash in Later Life

The Daily Docket: Schilling's 38 Studios Enters Bankruptcy

Q&A: Testing Company Head Defends Controversial Exams

The Tax Time Bomb


STFU.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 08, 2012, 12:57:53 PM
No, no, my headphones actually flew to pieces. They can't be repaired, for anything less than the cost of a new pair. They are utterly fucked. They weren't that expensive, but anyway. Not happy.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2012, 02:12:10 PM
:shock:

Did you turn them up to 11?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 08, 2012, 02:46:26 PM
I lunged, angrily, to reach the phone for an annoying harrassing phone call. There was some sort of multiple elastic collision thing that would have been hilarious in gif form. The cord broke off inside the socket, the phones went into the air, my computer lept off the desk unplugging the monitor, the 'phones emitted a loud BLUP sound that recalled to mind the telephone scene in "Fail-Safe" only much louder, and I saw a visible spark. Both earpieces broke off the headpiece and wires were dangling. It's really fucking dead.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on June 08, 2012, 02:56:55 PM
Really most sincerely dead?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2012, 03:06:24 PM
Sounds like a pinnacle of good design.  I guess a breakaway plug would cost another 50 cents for the manufacturer, though.


Annnnd the speakers on my laptop just died as I was typing that.  Damned irony!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 08, 2012, 03:16:37 PM
I'm still not entirely sure how it hit that hard. Boggles the mind.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2012, 04:46:37 PM
So I've been watching this show, and Netflix has seasons 1-14 on Instant, which is pretty good.  I'm up to about season 6.

As of yesterday or today, they now only have seasons 11 and 12.  Naturally, they don't warn or tell you.  You just get to find out on your own.

Netflix, this is why people think you suck.  It's because you do.  And it needs to be said where the googles will find it, since you don't have any real customer support.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 08, 2012, 04:50:49 PM
14 seasons? What is it, Gunsmoke?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2012, 05:24:45 PM
Nah, BBC Midsomer Murders.  BBC shows often run forever, but it helps that they tend to have fewer episodes per season.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on June 10, 2012, 08:22:14 PM
Really most sincerely dead?

:spittake: :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2012, 09:15:41 PM
1)  Stupid farking Firefox, at work, does all kinds of bullshit it's not supposed to do.  Worst is logging you back in automatically to sites you were logged into last time you ran Firefox.  We've told it not to remember passwords.  But if you're logged into Gmail, say, and you close Firefox, then reopen it, and go to Gmail -- bam -- you're logged in as if you'd never closed Firefox.

Not cool, man.  Also, it's supposed to erase the history when you close, and it doesn't.  The actual History comes up blank, but the autocomplete in the nav bar remembers, and so do the stupid, stupid window-pane quick-load things that Firefox ill-advisedly copied from Opera.  Seems like you can only delete the window-pane things manually, one at a time, and sometimes they come back.  It's not shit that's bookmarked or anything, either.

Damn thing just doesn't work.


2)  IE has started doing this thing where bookmarks (excuse me, Favorites, because god forbid MS should adhere to any standard) and autocompletes act like they're working -- but then up pops a dialog box that says IE is trying to load an HTML page from your Favorites folder, and would you like to Open it, Save it, or Cancel?

WTF, IE?  Again, this is why people leave automatic updates turned off for Windows.  It's like leaving the window open during thunderstorm season.  You're gonna have a bad time.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2012, 09:16:47 PM
Oh.  ALSO, when they uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox at work, it created an icon on the desktop, and you can't erase it.  Windows tells you that you're not authorized.  The shortcut is not marked Read Only, or something, and even the Admin account isn't authorized to erase it.

W.  T.  F.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on June 16, 2012, 09:17:48 PM
GOOD GAWD.  :trance:

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2012, 09:18:51 PM
I am seriously, seriously impressed if you read all of that.

I feel . . . validated.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on June 16, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
I did.

Probably because I've been thinking we're in need of a laptop, and the cheapest route would be to go with something that runs Windows.

But then I read stuff like what you wrote, and think "Well FUCK THAT."

I think the ONLY way I could handle a Windows laptop would be if I forbade Steve from using it. Which isn't fair, but he is extremely incompetent when it comes to computers, and I know he'd want to use a newer, faster computer to look at porn on the internet, among other things.

My problem is not with him looking at porn; my problem is his lack of understanding of how malware or viruses can originate from websites. HE DOES NOT (WANT TO) UNDERSTAND.

I can't even deal with how badly his Mac Mini is running anymore.  :bummed:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2012, 10:04:49 PM
Well, I'm still running Windows XP, too.  Although if you're buying a used machine, the cheap ones still come with Windows XP.

Firefox was fine up until we updated it to, what, version 11.  Which is so fucked up that I can't believe they released it. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on June 26, 2012, 11:19:22 AM
12 cores, 16Gb of ram and i still have to wait for fucking photoshop. the new CS6 works great but not CS5. of course the upgrade process to the new design suite is a fucking nightmare. i don't want to work from the "cloud".

i'd like to cock punch mark knoll.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 26, 2012, 11:36:59 AM
I was curious about that. I encourage you to complain here so you can be my guinea pig  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 26, 2012, 11:56:38 AM
FUCK THE CLOUD.


The cloud is going to suck until it reaches the critical mass of computing power where it's awesome.  Just like with bandwidth.  And like with bandwidth, every software jackass out there will be trying to maximize what you can do with the cloud, which will always slow the cloud down.

And every time the cloud  i s  a  l i t t le  t o o  s l o w  it's going to make you crazy.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 27, 2012, 11:55:10 AM
Speaking of things that suck:  How LSASS.EXE (yes, I've complained before) occasionally turns my machine into a dead dog.

Opera is currently running 13 windows with a total of over 80 tabs.  It's using about 75k, no processor cycles except when I load a page.  Since I started it, it's done under 300k in disk reads and about 550k in disk writes.

LSASS has been running slightly longer than Opera, since it starts up automatically when Windows loads.  It's done over 8.3 million disk reads and over 8.1 million disk writes.  STOP CHURNING THE DRIVE, YOU PRICK.

My commit charge is less than a third of available memory, and I've got almost five gigs of empty drive space, not including virtual memory.  All the security software thinks this is the real LSASS executable, and I've had this problem on other machines.  It sometimes prevents Netflix from caching properly on my media machine.

:fuckyou: :bullshit:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 29, 2012, 09:17:38 AM
Dear Firefox:  Do not fucking bother me with your complaint that some of my plug-ins are old.  If I cared, I would update them. 

Do not shift the page I'm viewing down half an inch five or ten seconds after it loads to give me this 'important warning'.  No competent designer would MOVE THE CONTROLS WHILE SOMEONE IS USING SOMETHING, and on a web page there are controls all over the place.

But mostly, do not put an annoying pop-up that doesn't have a button that says "Shut up and do not bother me with this again."  You will not annoy me into complying with whatever you think is best.  You might annoy me into switching to another browser.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 29, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
I am running the latest firefox at work. Every other minute or so, it freezes for 5-10 seconds.

Do not use this program.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 29, 2012, 09:46:05 AM
INORITE


I still seriously can't believe they released it.  I cannot even imagine what went wrong over there.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 29, 2012, 11:05:49 AM
Not having any problems here :shrug:

Mac 10.5.8
FF13.0.1

Although BC seems kinda sluggish today. Could be my stupid ISP too.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 07, 2012, 06:56:08 AM
Weather.gov aside, the Yahoo Sports pages have been unnecessarily redesigned.  Were they the last thing of value at Yahoo?  Every once in a while I noticed they were Yahoo sites and was surprised by that.

The redesigned pages have no apparent added value, they're ugly, and a bunch of stuff doesn't work.  Pictures generally don't even load correctly.  Tried Opera and IE so far, but I'm not going to go too far out of my way to fix their problems.

I used to visit Yahoo, then Sports Illustrated, and then ESPN's pages for NBA news.  Had them in that order because it was the order of increasingly poor page design and usefulness, which unfortunately does trump their differences in content.  But with the redesign, I'm just giving up on Yahoo.  The page is too annoying to make it worth the trouble.

THE primary rule in design is Keep It Simple, Stupid.  Breaking that rule just because your product has been the same for a long time . . . utter failure.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on July 07, 2012, 07:18:13 AM
Not having any problems here :shrug:

Mac 10.5.8
FF13.0.1

Although BC seems kinda sluggish today. Could be my stupid ISP too.

Latest FF as well. No issues.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 07, 2012, 11:01:48 AM
JESUS F. CHRIST, MICROSOFT

First of all, nothing -- NOTHING -- should automatically 'jump to the top' and automatically get the focus (have the cursor).  Nothing.  The car analogy would be if some control abruptly took dominance, blocked the driver's view, and every command input was routed there.  So not only would you suddenly not be able to see where you were going, but all the pedals, the steering wheel, even the radio would suddenly control whatever just took over instead of doing what they normally do.

Utter, utter design incompetence.


Second of all, if it's some kind of EMERGENCY, like my machine is about to melt down, or hackers are taking over, then a warning could jump to the top.  But NOT get the focus.  Because when you are typing something in application A, and then warning dialog B jumps up and grabs the focus, often you hit Space or Enter, because you were already typing, and make the dialog box go away immediately.  Or you agree to something unintentionally.

This is also pathetic design incompetence.


But third of all, no stupid application should get to decide on its own that it's super-important and has the right to do this.  I notice (GO FIGURE) that MS apps are prone to this.  MS Word loves to take over the machine because it finished doing something in the background, and so does IE.  Well FUCK YOU.  I will switch to you when I am ready.  If a reasonable amount of time has passed, you should have finished whatever you were doing in the background.  You don't need to jump up and down like a yappy toddler to tell me.

IF, as it happens, I have the taskbar visible, THEN you can make your stupid tab flash in a subtle fashion to alert me that you're proud to have done something.  If I have the taskbar hidden, it's because I want it hidden, and do not pop it up on your own authority.  You do not have permission.


Seriously.  So very goddamned incompetent.  Absolute utter crap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 10, 2012, 10:18:47 PM
Netflix changed their page format for individual items (ie, each film's page).  Oy.  Definitely not an unpgrade either esthetically or functionally.  Absolutely nothing but change for the sake of change -- or worse.

My favorite part is how there seem to be no design guidelines.  For instance, the Play button looks and behaves differently depending on whether you're on an item's page or a queue page.  Same for things like the add-to-queue button.  The Add To Instant button now looks like the Add To DVD button.

That's some sharp lack of professional quality goin' on right there.  But more than anything else, it's just always so annoying when no change is necessary, and then they go and make it worse.  STOP HELPING.  Try fixing some of the stuff that's broken instead of breaking the stuff that was working OK.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 10, 2012, 10:37:37 PM
They also hid the runtime information and got rid of the play-the-next-episode button.

:eyeroll:

For about two years now, they've been steadily making the user review function crappier.  Personally, I rarely look at other people's reviews, and I don't feel like there's any point to posting reviews at Netflix, but the changes seem to consistently annoy other users.

Seriously.  As soon as Amazon or someone decides to compete, Netflix is going to die.  It is pathetic how badly the company is run.  I feel bad for them because they used to be so much better.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: eldiem on July 10, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
We tried to log in with my boyfriend's neflix info on the Wii this weekend, but it appears I can't do that unless I delete the entire current netflix channel (which contains my roommate's netflix account info) and then re-add it.

This is annoying. Why can't I have two netflix channels? It's my goddamn wii, I should be able to have as many different netflixes as I want.

As an aside: does anyone know if I can add a second netflix channel to my wii?

 :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 25, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
I am now officially three OS X versions (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57479579-263/os-x-mountain-lion-can-run-on-unsupported-intel-mac-pros/) out of date.  :(
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 25, 2012, 06:27:39 PM
my G5 at home, well, in storage for the past 2 years, is only a power pc so stop yer whinin'.

i do have 12 core G5 at work with 48gb of ram.  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 25, 2012, 06:29:26 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 25, 2012, 06:37:53 PM
I am now officially three OS X versions (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57479579-263/os-x-mountain-lion-can-run-on-unsupported-intel-mac-pros/) out of date.  :(

Me too. Older minis aren't even eligible for this upgrade - it has to be early 2009 or later. Judging from the copyright date on my "about this mac", I think it will work on mine.

specs (http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/)


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Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 25, 2012, 07:15:56 PM
The kid put two CDs in the drive in the iMac again.  Can't get them out.  It will fucking cost another $165 fucking dollars that we don't have.  Mr. Jobs, your designs may have looked cool but with a tray there is at least hope of unjamming the fucker.  :angry:

Plus we're having to pull the toilet yet again.  No idea what's trapped this time.  Hot stock tip for y'alls.  Invest in the makers of wax rings.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on July 25, 2012, 07:30:30 PM
Or door locks.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 25, 2012, 07:31:45 PM
i've gotten cds out of seemingly impossible drives before. what model is it?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on July 25, 2012, 08:01:02 PM
Ah man, I'm sorry.  I guess toilet locks (like for tobblers) is out of the question?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 25, 2012, 09:15:17 PM
If toddlers couldn't reach the flush handle, this wouldn't be quite such a problem.  Funny, toilets used to have handles too high for small children to reach.  Thank god for progress.

And, what, the Macs no longer have that little hole for you to jam a paperclip into so you can pretend there's an eject button?!?


I think every computer I ever owned, put together, would not exceed 6 GB of RAM.  But this is not as sad as my recent realizations about how old the newest car I ever owned was.  And even that . . . eh.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 25, 2012, 09:18:17 PM
Toilet locks have been mastered.  As for the office, it doesn't even have a door.  It's a 4 year old iMac so out of warranty.  Sandy took it back in and hopefully will shame them into fixing it since we just replaced the drive less than a month ago.

Does Amazon sell straight jackets?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 25, 2012, 09:19:27 PM
The best I could find was in small.  I think he's still x-small though.

clack (http://www.amazon.com/Small-D-ring-Straight-Jacket-Restraint/dp/B0014BL9JA/ref=pd_sbs_op_9)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 25, 2012, 09:26:28 PM
Slightly oversized sweatshirt, tie the sleeves behind the back.

Kids are limber, though.  He'll wriggle out.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 25, 2012, 09:35:38 PM
That's why I'm going for the straight jacket.  At least when he figures it out, he can turn it into a job opportunity.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 25, 2012, 11:58:30 PM
why can't you crack open the imac? if the geek squad can do it i'm sure anyone with opposable thumbs can.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 26, 2012, 02:04:11 PM
If they don't fix it for free that's what we'll do.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 26, 2012, 02:21:18 PM
There's a lot of videos on youtube about opening imacs.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 26, 2012, 03:55:36 PM
True, but a lot of them are traumatic service.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 30, 2012, 03:41:05 PM
Haven't heard any news about it, but the internet is fucking SHATTERED from here today, since maybe 9 AM.  A lot of stuff works fine, but then a lot of stuff you may be able to reach, or not, seemingly from minute to minute.

Routers down?  Something's up, anyway.

It's very annoying.  But I'm sure it's causing many people much bigger problems, so I'm trying to keep my perspective about it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 30, 2012, 03:48:00 PM
http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/

My water pressure is really low today. Every time that happens, I have this fear that the pipe in my yard has sprung a leak.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 30, 2012, 03:58:04 PM
YES my water pressure is often pathetic, and I always worry that I'm going to get a $15,000 bill -- and be legally liable for it.

I have never been so motivated to move off the grid as I've been since living on the grid here.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 30, 2012, 10:46:46 PM
Routers down?  Something's up, anyway.

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/

Quote
Syrian Arab News Agency is down. Last checked 43 mins ago.

 :uncertain:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 03, 2012, 05:26:55 PM
I've been noticing lately that my Google search will show like 20 results for the same domain, and then go on to another domain and do the same thing. It didn't use to be like this. Is it just me?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 03, 2012, 06:13:47 PM
Huh.  I haven't gotten that glitch, but it's been largely bullshit for me lately.  The level to which it ignores my search terms and just searches for whatever it wrongly thinks I probably want has gotten out of control.

The Google Shopping thing no longer works (for me) either, I noticed today.  Instead, I get a weird kinda-sorta-non-standard pop-up thing that tells me Google Shopping is going to become a commercial site.  Then it tells me that there are no search results.

Good luck with that, you incompetent shitbirds.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 04, 2012, 10:43:53 AM
WTF.  :angry:

I use that all the fucking time.  Why do they keep killing services/products that I USE?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 04, 2012, 11:48:16 AM
Reportedly it still works for some people.  And honestly I don't know WTF they mean by their "becoming a commercial site" thing.  I suppose it probably means vendors will pay for listings, and it will no longer actually search for the lowest price, yadda yadda.

Amazon's own search is so insanely terrible (largely but not entirely because Amazon's ability to sort its 'inventory' is so poor) that I used Froogle to search for stuff on Amazon.  So, yeah, pretty inconvenient.  If Froogle really does go down, I'll probably do a hell of a lot less shopping at Amazon, for starters.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 04, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what they're up to there. It's hard to read through the Weaselese on that page (http://googlecommerce.blogspot.com/2012/05/building-better-shopping-experience.html), but I think your summary may be correct. Judging from their pictures, everything will appear to remain the same, but the results are are tainted.When I click on a "Learn more" link and it takes me to a blank page unless scripts are allowed, I get stabby before I even start reading.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 04, 2012, 04:32:03 PM
They dumped their Don't Be Evil motto.

Fine.

Time for them to adopt Try To Be Any Good.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 06, 2012, 09:02:18 AM
God damn it, Google News, I told you NO FAKE NEWS SITES.  And I told you that includes the WSJ.

NINE propaganda WSJ stories on the front page.  Nine.  I have it set to "Never".  I don't care how much money they're shoveling up Google's ass.  I only use Google News for local news, because the local Gannett paper's website isn't worth using, but I scan the front page.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on August 06, 2012, 09:07:53 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 06, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 06, 2012, 10:17:56 PM
Maybe Google just confuses "Nein" with "nine"?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 06, 2012, 10:44:29 PM
Maybe Google just confuses "Nein" with "nine"?

http://youtu.be/1ZeciX-3wfs
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 07, 2012, 07:04:44 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 07, 2012, 08:53:44 AM
In other news, took me and unit 1 about half an hour to discover the MAC address of the wireless receiver on a Compaq laptop. Yep. Ended up being a command line utility, believe it or not. :nuts:

Interesting that when I googled this many of the early results were message board threads dominated by people who just knew the only way to do it was to buy an application. From them, presumably. :hmm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 07, 2012, 11:14:01 AM
:shrug:

I haven't been able to figure the whole thing out yet, but throughput seems to vary randomly at all hours of the night and day, and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with how busy my router is.  So I don't think it's someone hacking in.  I think AT&T just sucks.



Meanwhile, OK, very possibly this is just something to do with RAM or processor speed, but, seriously:  CHROME IS SO EFFING SLOW.  My god, such a lazy hog.  It is slow as as a frozen turd on every machine I've used it on, although all of them are (to give an idea) XP machines at least four years old. 

It can't possibly be this slow for most people, or no one would use it.  It's especially slow on start-up.  Just obnoxious.  But it's slower than IE at rendering complicated pages, and it's mysteriously extremely slow with Gmail. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 09, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
I think AT&T just sucks. I know AT&T TOTALLY SUCKS.

there ya go. you're welcome.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 10, 2012, 05:48:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ibNmj.png)

Axe hasn't been online since yesterday afternoon. I think we may be hearing more from him on the subject.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on August 10, 2012, 08:04:36 AM
There's at least five pages of rage building up. Get your popcorn.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 10, 2012, 10:48:12 AM
Nobody tell Axe about the small thermal exhaust port located below the main port.

also, lol

(http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/4767/target-area-is-only-two-inches-wide.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on August 10, 2012, 12:20:50 PM
That's a perfect caption!  :knotty:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 10, 2012, 01:30:07 PM
Always embarrassing to just impact on the surface.


AT&T told me they think it's not them but just my router.  They suggested I test the router.  But if the DSL ain't there, how the fuck do I test the router?  That's like testing the vacuum cleaner when you think the power's out.

So, yeah, I either have to unplug the router and bring it in to work and plug it into the DSL feed here, or I have to buy a second router to see if that one works at my house. 

Extra difficulty:  Why, no, of course I cannot get at the plug for my router.  Oddly, there is a bookcase in front of it.

Extra stupidity:  I can see other wireless networks in my neighborhood, and all the ones that were called ATT[whatever] have vanished at just this same time.  SUSPICIOUS.

I do fucking hate AT&T.  But they were allowed to buy both of their local competitors, because fuck you people who don't like predatory monopolies.  There's Earthlink in this area, and ACDnet or whatever they're called, but not in my neighborhood.  They cost like 50-100% more than AT&T, but you get actual throughput and local, responsive customer service.

Or there's cable.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 14, 2012, 09:07:55 PM

Meanwhile, OK, very possibly this is just something to do with RAM or processor speed, but, seriously:  CHROME IS SO EFFING SLOW.  My god, such a lazy hog.  It is slow as as a frozen turd on every machine I've used it on, although all of them are (to give an idea) XP machines at least four years old. 

It can't possibly be this slow for most people, or no one would use it.  It's especially slow on start-up.  Just obnoxious.  But it's slower than IE at rendering complicated pages, and it's mysteriously extremely slow with Gmail.

I have a PC upstairs that's running XP. Chrome is faster than Firefox and (obv) Explorer on there. That thing's at least.. 7 or 8 years old. Maybe more, maybe less, I can't tell.

So yeah. maybe it's just you :D
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 15, 2012, 06:23:38 PM
:shrug:  Tried it on three machines at work, with comparable results.  Chrome typically is taking 10-12 seconds to load the Google homepage.  Even on IE, Google reliably snaps up in under five seconds.  On Firefox, it's almost instant, except when Firefox crashes.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 15, 2012, 06:49:59 PM
is it updated?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 16, 2012, 03:13:58 PM
Actually, I have no idea.  I've actually gone back to mostly using IE, of all things, for stuff that doesn't play well enough with Opera.

During my latest flirtation with Linux, I did find that the latest version of Firefox is quite stable there.  Just not under Windows.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 16, 2012, 03:20:50 PM
Meanwhile . . . .

I finally got my new router and took it home to install it.  Jesus H Christ, this whole area of technology represents a major failure by our entire species.  It's just so ridiculously awful.  Endless mysterious setup pages, very much not located in one place, with endless mysterious acronyms and jargon that do not have context-sensitive help -- just an utter shambles.  Really, I think baboons could do this better.

The Netgear 'help' keeps recommending that I (A) refer to the CD (the router did not come with a CD) or (B) look online.  SO STUPID.  The Windows Help keeps telling me to go get "the person in charge of your network".  Yeah, and I'll just tell my butler to get me a sandwich.

But ultimately it's just a disaster.  It's so disorganized, so unplanned, so stupidly arranged -- deficient in its conception and deformed in its execution.  This is supposedly a consumer appliance.  You should plug it in.  It should connect to your computer and the DSL automatically.  There should be ONE application that, in clear form, lets you do things like set the password.  I would almost rather not have internet at home than ever go through this bullshit again.

Anyway, while the router was attempting to connect to the Netgear website, it was doing . . . something . . . wrong.  After five wrong tries, AT&T helpfully disabled my account.  I tried to log in from work, but the AT&T records for my account (as identified by the bill I got from them) have a different email address (that I've never used), different date of birth apparently, and different SSN.

Why the fuck does AT&T have my SSN anyway?!  Time to break them up again.


So.  Still no internet at home.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on August 16, 2012, 04:41:26 PM
The help on those websites is dismal. I was trying to understand if a filter was incoming or outgoing on the new one, and ... well, Asus' website wasn't written by native English speakers but accounting for that it was still a nightmare. I never got what I wanted set up the other day. I'd done so much I copied the backup of the settings into the beast so I wouldn't leave a door open by mistake.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 17, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
It's so ridiculous.  It's packaged and marketed as if DIY, but they're assuming you know all of your computer's hardware and OS details, and all of the ISP's details, and what LCP, PAP, PPP over ATM, PPoE, TCP/IP, CHAP, WEP, WPS, DNS, etc, are.  Not a single one has, say, a pop-up that at least even tells you what the letters stand for.

PLUS, and this perhaps galls me the most, 99% of the settings will be the same as they were for my last router.  Why doesn't Windows store them in one place and hand them to the new hardware?  Not the passwords or WEP encryption key, sure, but the rest of it.

And it's really irritating that if you're using a cable, most of this stuff seems to take care of itself, but if you're setting up wireless, freaking nightmare.

Such incredible Fail.

And, yes, still not working at home.  AT&T (via, ugh, Live Chat) told me they were sure it'd be settled Real Soon and should just start working again.  It did not. 

Best: the AT&T rep wasn't sure if my account would have a password or not.  The router has a password, yes, but the DSL?  Not sure.  Yeah, I don't have an AT&T password anywhere, so I'm kind of curious about that, myself.  But at the same time, allegedly the account was disabled automatically because of the wrong password being submitted by the router.  So, uh . . . .

In my neighborhood, it's AT&T or dial-up.  Or satellite.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 17, 2012, 06:02:56 PM
It turns out to be impossible to speak with a human at Sears who a) knows the answer to your question b) is located in this country c) does not forward you on to another system.

Fascinating.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 17, 2012, 07:34:26 PM
Did I mention:

Hate Sears
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 17, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
AT&T on the consumer side is bad enough, but when you have AT&T (tm) the multi-million dollar entity vs my employer, another multi-million dollar entity, you find out soon WHO REALLY NEEDS WHO
And I don't mean AT&T needs my employer. .

Their customer service is TERRIBLE, their invoicing is just awful, and I get to clean up the mess. UGH.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 17, 2012, 10:40:55 PM
Also? The only thing I can think of is that someone has repeatedly requested Amélie from Netflix so that they can vandalize all the discs they have of this movie.

I'm never gonna get to finish it!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 18, 2012, 06:00:57 AM
I've sometimes wondered if there's a correlation between the condition of a DVD and the quality/style of the content. Certain genres seemed to always be damaged.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 18, 2012, 10:12:02 AM
Any Chinese film from before 1990 is scratched, in my experience.  I've had three Netflix copies of My Young Auntie, and none of them would play more than halfway through.


Er, that's not, like, a Category III.  It's a kung fu comedy.  Srsly.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 18, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
It's amazing what is on this disc. Like somebody spattered it with something caustic. Anyway I went through the whole cleaning procedure including toothpaste (the spatters did not come off anyway) and we were able to get through the movie. Don't think we missed anything important. Closer examination reveals some stress fractures - maybe the disc went through a postal service machine off kilter or something - and the spatters almost have to be insignificant. :shrug: I've decided to be impressed with how much abuse these things can take and still play.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 18, 2012, 11:10:46 AM
I had one of those DVD-buffers, but it eventually broke.  :shrug:  Worked well while it worked, though.



edit:  The guys at the secondhand DVD place in town use one of those table-mounted two-wheel buffers, like jewelers use, with like 6" wheels.  That works great, but good ones aren't that cheap, and they're not exactly small.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on August 18, 2012, 12:14:22 PM
It's amazing what is on this disc. Like somebody spattered it with something caustic. Anyway I went through the whole cleaning procedure including toothpaste (the spatters did not come off anyway) and we were able to get through the movie. Don't think we missed anything important. Closer examination reveals some stress fractures - maybe the disc went through a postal service machine off kilter or something - and the spatters almost have to be insignificant. :shrug: I've decided to be impressed with how much abuse these things can take and still play.

Geotrichum candidum?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 18, 2012, 12:52:36 PM
It's amazing what is on this disc. Like somebody spattered it with something caustic. Anyway I went through the whole cleaning procedure including toothpaste (the spatters did not come off anyway) and we were able to get through the movie. Don't think we missed anything important. Closer examination reveals some stress fractures - maybe the disc went through a postal service machine off kilter or something - and the spatters almost have to be insignificant. :shrug: I've decided to be impressed with how much abuse these things can take and still play.

Geotrichum candidum?

I know, right? It really did look like a fungal infection, too.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 18, 2012, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: Wikipedia
In addition to its organic diet, Geotrichum candidum has been observed as eating through data stored on compact discs.

I . . . did not know that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 18, 2012, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: Wikipedia
In addition to its organic diet, Geotrichum candidum has been observed as eating through data stored on compact discs.

I . . . did not know that.

I know, right? We're doomed! :)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 18, 2012, 06:57:48 PM
SO.

Kind of / sort of got somewhere with the AT&T monster today.  There are two email accounts associated with my AT&T account, and neither of them is registered to an AT&T account.

Yeah, the AT&T rep didn't know WTF that means, either.  So he reset the account, in some way, to be associated with one of my accounts.  Naturally, he reset it to the account I never heard of before and have never used and don't have a password for, but it's in my name, so whatever.  And he gave me a new temporary password for it.

SO.  Log in.  Hm, yes.  It immediately makes me change the password.  :eyeroll:  It won't let me use anything it doesn't consider a strong enough password, but of course it does not allow spaces or unusual characters, because this is ten years ago. 

FINE.  I come up with a weak and difficult-to-remember password.  FINE.

Oh, you still can't access the account because it's not in your name.  :confused:  WTF?  He just, I mean, I, wait, what?

Yeah.  The online system says the account isn't in my name or billed to me.  Funny, the BILLS have my name on them.

OH.  WAIT.  At the top, it says "Hello [YT]!"

:doh:

:cyber:

I don't even want to know the how or why. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on August 18, 2012, 11:51:33 PM
Fraud on YT's part?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 19, 2012, 11:26:48 AM
No, he was living with me when we set this up, and he talked to the AT&T rep on the phone at one point because I'd been on the phone with them for, like, an hour trying to set it up, and the battery on my phone ran out.  I had to go to work at that point, so . . . I gave him the relevant information.  He's an idiot, and I'm sure he did something dumb, but this is still 99% AT&T.

AT&T can't figure it out, although naturally they're describing it as my fault.  My name is the only name on the account; they have two emails associated with it, one literally using my name and one my ancient Hotmail account (which is the only one they were supposed to be using).  The billing system understands that, but their security system has YT listed as the Primary Member, with no email account listed (not supposed to be possible), and they can't retrieve his password from the system without having an email to put in there.

After the live chat yesterday, I went home and was on the phone with them several times.  Once I was on hold for 29 minutes (!) while the recorded voice kept telling me I could probably fix my problem if I'd just go online.  :banghead:  SO STUPID.  Then the system hung up on me, and I had to recharge my phone before trying again.

Eventually I talked to a woman who explained (testily) that she could fix the problem for me if I did exactly what she said.

[drumroll]

Then she asked me to guess the answer to the Security Question YT had picked four years ago:  His favorite restaurant.  Also, I only got one guess.  Also, I happen to know he always makes up fictional answers to these questions so that it's impossible for someone to guess them.  Also, fuck you.

I declined to guess.  She seemed to think I obviously didn't really want to have my DSL back.  She said she had to look into something but would call me back in a few minutes.  Fifteen minutes went by, and no call back.  So I called in again, and the system told me that tech support was closed for the night.

:huh:

Mind you, on my service contract it says "24/7".

SO today I will fuck with them briefly, and if they don't behave like humans I will tell them, fine, CANCEL the fucking account and give me a new one.  And don't put someone else's name on it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 19, 2012, 03:52:32 PM
Eventually tech support gave up and farmed me out to Billing, which doesn't have live support on weekends.

BUT, mirabile dictu, they have email.  Sort of.  The kind where you enter stuff into a form (but you don't get enough characters to actually explain WTF is up), and they email you back.

Tech support could learn from Billing.  Email is, like, the wave of the future.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 19, 2012, 08:42:54 PM
God. what a nightmare.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 20, 2012, 01:55:30 PM
Got email back from billing today.  They say they can't help and I have to call Web Maintenance, which is only available by phone and only 9-6 weekdays.

See.  This is why the Fail.  A communications tech company that can't do asynchronous communication over the internet.  Instead, you have to call during the hours when you're probably at work.

Time to break up AT&T again.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 20, 2012, 05:34:41 PM
OMFG.  I have internet again.

On my third phone call today, I spoke to someone in Billing who was actually helpful and didn't insist that the problem was me.  She conferenced me in while she called Tech Support, to make sure they'd believe me. 

In the Billing records, it's just me on the account.  In Tech Support, it's me, YT (as the primary), and someone named Anthony.  :trance:

The tech support woman was like, oh, this happens sometimes, but I can fix it right over the phone.

:doh:

If only the first seven or eight people I talked to hadn't sucked.

The weird part:  She told me all of the new stuff that I'd have to change, including two passwords, a security question, an email address, and a bunch of personal data.  In reality, all I had to do was enter the first password.  The AT&T page never finishes loading, at the moment :eyeroll: but for the hell of it I tried to load Google.  And there she blows.

I'll change the rest of the data sometime when the AT&T page is working.


The weirder (?) part:  Tried to log into the router again to set up my second PC.  Router said the admin was already logged in.  That made me paranoid, but the security seems to be working.  It did let me look at the workgroup, and both of my machines were listed.  :confused:  My second machine doesn't know the new password, WEP key, etc.  But it works!  Magical consumer appliance competence!  Somehow.


The most recent stupid part:  Two identical ThinkPads, both running XP SP3.  Go into My Computer, Properties, and, uh, it's different.  The Computer Name and Workgroup bits are especially different.

I can't be mad at MS right now.  I'm still winding down being mad at AT&T.  Incidentally, my next DSL bill is due in four days.  I guess I'll pay it, after all.

All these phone calls to AT&T used up about $16 in minutes.  Allegedly (but not really) I pay Virgin Mobile 6 cents a minute.  That four hours and forty-five minutes, most of which I spent on hold listening to the stupid fucking recording telling me I should just go online.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 20, 2012, 05:35:56 PM
Oh.  My internet was out so long that 3-5 things expired from my Netflix Instant queue while I was gone.  I don't know if there's a way to find out what they were, but fuck it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 20, 2012, 06:18:50 PM
 :clap:

Heh. I've been fortunate enough to find the CSR with superpowers before. It's a wonderful feeling. With Earthlink, it was common, but with Comcast it's rare. But to be fair, there are a few excellent people at Comcast. Getting to them is the near impossible part.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 20, 2012, 06:51:02 PM
Earthlink around here still has good customer service.  They typically cost about 50% more than AT&T, though.  And they're not allowed to offer DSL in my neighborhood.

At work, we have Earthlink dial-up + web hosting, and then we have AT&T DSL.  The AT&T comes with web hosting, too, but we gave up trying to get it to work, so we keep the Earthlink account so the website stays up.

It's stupid, but we can't afford to hire a tech person to fix things, so when we reach the end of what we can do with online tech support, that's just it.  Shit out of luck. 

We used to have SBC before AT&T bought them.  They were seriously so awesome.  Put in a service call, and someone would SHOW UP at your place, usually within a couple of hours.  They upgraded our router for free because it's upstairs and the wireless had trouble getting through our concrete floor to the downstairs.  BUT all gone now, because, uh, conglomeration.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 20, 2012, 09:14:34 PM
Last time I dealt with tech support at Cox Cable I was astonished. I was talking to Americans, who were competent, and were not following an unhelpful script, and believed me when I told them things. It's the only reason I haven't kicked those bastards to the curb yet, they're actually technically quite good.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 20, 2012, 09:35:45 PM
They escaped on a technicality, eh?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: eldiem on August 20, 2012, 10:28:14 PM
For me, customer service has been hit or miss with comcast and at&t. When I was trying to get at&t/dsl set up in my last apartment, it took 45 minutes of being on hold to get in touch with someone who confirmed they needed to send someone out to do something on the outside of the building. With comcast, i don't think I was on hold at all and the lady gave me the best deal and it was like oh you just moved? ok *boop boop boop* you should be good, and you'll see a credit on your next bill."

Then after I moved the experience was exactly opposite. I used the online "chat" thing to move my comcast and I wanted to add internet. Seemed straightforward but then I realized they didn't move the same tv package I had, so I had to call and change things, which is where shit went wrong I think. They apparently set me up as a new customer, so that involved a technician who came to set up the modem (fine) but also demanded i take a new cable box he'd brought. But he couldn't take the old one, since it wasn't set up as a move. So I had to drive 30 minutes to the extremely sketchy part of town to return that. AT&T however was a very dreaded phone call that only ended up taking about 2 minutes and involved no persuasion to stay with them or move my service with them. I was elated.

Basically what I'm saying is there is no rhyme, reason, or pattern to all this. But I have no control over it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2012, 06:16:00 AM
Yeah, it seems 90% to be a matter of who you happen to get when the customer service roulette ball drops.  Some reps are awesome, but most of them hate their jobs and blame the customer.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 21, 2012, 05:00:18 PM
I just realized we've been "leasing" our broadband modem @ $7 per month from Comcast for the last 8 1/2 years. 

I don't want to know the math on that.  :uncertain:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2012, 06:20:50 PM
Oh, no shit, customer rep after rep at AT&T told me it was probably my modem / router as soon as they found out it's not one I bought or leased from AT&T.  There's probably a good chance I could have had this whole thing settled by Day Two if not for the fact that they tell them to hassle you if you have your own equipment.


edit:  Also, they want to charge you like $60 an hour (minimum billing time per call, one hour) if you need tech help with a non-AT&T modem or router, too.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on August 21, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
That is why I haven't bought a new one, even though ours is about 15 years old.

And no, they don't have scripts for it anymore. :)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 22, 2012, 02:24:38 PM
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Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 22, 2012, 06:37:29 PM
So this is part of a larger story. Not very interesting, but a good example of common aggravation. This really belongs in the other complaint thread, but I started here, so...

My Craftsman (I mention the brand name for all the Sears fans here) Weedwacker broke down last week. I've had this thing for a few years, and it's been one thing after another going wrong.

One of the recurring problems is the plastic fuel lines that run from the tank to the carburetor - they crack over time, and create several different problems. That was one of the first problems I checked for. I looked in the fuel tank, and the fuel filter was rolling around in there. The lines had cracked, and the filter just fell off. I just replaced the lines back at the beginning of the season, so this was the fastest they've ever cracked. I bought the last lines at Ace, just generic plastic tubing. I went back there and asked if they had anything special, like reinforced or whatever, and they directed me to the lawn mower repair place across the street, which ended up having the same stuff I previously bought at Ace. I went to an auto parts store and found some that was specifically labeled as fuel line, so I bought that. When I went to install it, I found it was slightly thicker, which I figured I could work around, but I would need to remove the gas tank to simplify things. Ha.

There are only two screws holding the tank on, but they can only be easily accessed if you disassemble the entire weedwacker, otherwise you have to turn the screws with an allen wrench 1/8 of a turn at a time, and the screws are like one inch long, which ends up taking about 20 minutes per screw and is severely aggravating. It could have been so much easier to access. It was a stupid design, totally unnecessary,  and engineered without any thought whatsoever as far as future repairs. When putting it back together, I changed the setup so that the screw heads were accessible.

But it wouldn't crank. It seemed like the primer bulb wasn't filling up correctly, and I could see air bubbles and large pockets of air moving through the lines. I also started wondering if maybe I had gotten the lines switched - one goes to the carb and the other to the pump, so I went online looking for a diagram. The diagram (which showed I had it correct), led me to some comments that led me to believe the primer pump was probably bad. The logic was that if the line was old enough to get brittle, the pump was probably not working as it should either. It made sense to me, so off I go, looking for the replacement part.

Now I just ordered parts from Sears about 4 months ago when I fixed my kitchen faucet, so I was fairly certain that I had an account, but I had no idea what the password was, so I clicked on the "forgot password" link, which offered to email the reset link. It did nothing - no reaction at all, it just cleared the fields and never sent me an email. I assume that meant I didn't have an account after all, but it seems like it would have been okay to tell me that instead of me sitting there trying it like 3 times and sitting around waiting and refreshing my email continuously. So I finally surrender and set up a new account, but by now I'm aggravated and give up for the evening.

Today I go there, determined to get the parts ordered, and the site won't work. It's one of those sites where NoScript has like 3 scripts blocked, and when you click to allow those, 10 more blocked scripts appear, and when you navigate to the next page, another appears. I never could get it to work with Firefox, so I tried Safari, who is a real slut and will let anyone have their way with her. Safari worked, but it gave me that untrusted [24]7 certificate warning, with only options to inspect the certificate, cancel or continue. I hit cancel, which seemed okay, but every time I would navigate to a new page, the same warning would appear. I finally figured out that when inspecting the certificate, you can choose to trust or not trust. I chose to not trust, and the site seemed to work okay after that :shrug:

The primer bulb was not listed as an individual part. They showed several gasket kits that each had different part numbers but the same photo and no helpful description, and they also showed the entire carb assembly, for like $40, which was getting too close to the price of a new weedwacker that I didn't hate as much, so I started googling to see if I could find an aftermarket primer bulb, or some other source, which led me to a discussion about the notorious fuel lines on Craftsman weedwackers, and how they clog the filter inside the carb when they start to break down and the tank filter comes off the line.

I disassembled the carb, and sure enough, the screen was covered with gunk. I cleaned that and it cranked up, so I thought I was The Man for a minute, but then I realized it wouldn't idle - it stalled out after a couple minutes. I could adjust the idle, but what I suspect is happening is the fuel line that is a little bit thicker, and pliable, is getting choked where it passes through the wall of the tank and is not letting enough gas get through.

Now my decision is whether to bore out the hole for this new line that may or may not be any better than the line I used before, or to switch back to the crap I used before, or to order the factory stuff from Sears, which originally lasted a few years, but who knows if the replacement stuff is any better?

 :hmm:

Oh wow, endless indeed...  :soapbox:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 22, 2012, 07:17:55 PM
I think the goddamnit-you-kids-off-the-lawn attitude is appropriate as we're discussing lawn care products here but EVERYTHING SUCKS IN THIS WAY NOW. Junk, made in China so cheaply it's cheaper to ship it half way across the world than it would be to make it here, from cheap components, to a cheap design whose only criteria are "cheap" and "can be assembled by cheap robots or factory serfs," with no consideration whatsoever for maintenance or repair because it's cheaper to throw it away and get a new one.  :angry:

Anyway, all that said from between clenched teeth while waving a fist, I've had great luck in the last decade with replacement parts from Sears. It's why I lowered my guard while dealing with them the last time - a mistake I will not repeat, but, it has been easy and fast and ... shit ... cheap to get parts for my shockingly old shop tools (although not all parts were available any more). I'd give it one try.

Seriously the shop tools are more than fifty years old. Amortized well I'd say.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 22, 2012, 07:33:48 PM
Matt swears by Sears/Craftsman.

tractor (really just a fancy riding mower), blower, weedwhacker, various and sundry powered and manual tools, etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 22, 2012, 07:45:38 PM
I paid less for my riding mower than I did for my weedwacker. I paid $100 for my 40 year old Snapper, and it's been one of the best investments I ever made. I just recently did some repairing of stuff that's been wrong with it ever since I bought it, and it's all heavy duty standard hardware. It's a joy to work on. Made in Georgia. The USA one. The weedwacker is made in Korea. I like Craftsman stuff too, but that weedwacker just has the Craftsman name on it and that's all.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 22, 2012, 11:59:49 PM
We've learned, over years of painful lessons, that anytime one of our yard machines break (among other electronics/appliances), we go get another one at a yard sale. Usually can find one in less than a day of hunting.

The second hand ones seem to last as long as buying new, and are a fraction of the cost. :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 23, 2012, 06:38:37 AM
:hmm:

Actually, we bought our totally awesome Wheel Horse lawn tractor / mower / snowplow for like $100 at a yard sale.  It even came with the ramps to get it in and out of trucks.




edit:  Can't spell "yard sale".  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on August 23, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
sears offers lifetime replacement of craftsman tools.

except for powered ones. dicks

i've bought 2 craftsman scroll saws. neither works now. i bought a $75 dollar one from harbor freight that does just fine. no light, but i'll live.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 23, 2012, 02:07:47 PM
Yeah, I looked at a $150 bench drill press that had a light, at Lowes, and instead bought a $50 one with a 25% coupon from Harbor Freight.  HF also sold me a seriously bright little LED flashlight that has a bendy aimable body and a magnet on the tail end.  It sticks to the housing of the drill press even when I used it for a little milling, and it's plenty bright.

I haven't used the drill press a ton, but I don't need it a ton.  $50 was about right.  AND my brother's jealous.  :P

Although he has the powered two-carver attach-to-the-cyclonic-shop-vac paint stripper thing.  I don't have one of those.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 23, 2012, 09:01:15 PM
Harbor Freight is one of those stores that girls really shouldn't enjoy but I AM DYING TO GO.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 23, 2012, 09:09:26 PM
They have, like, chromed wrenches the size of crutches.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on August 23, 2012, 09:29:44 PM
 :lol: :rollin:

Tellin ya. I can't shut up about the 3ish foot drill bit I saw at Mendelson's Liquidation Outlet. That wasn't the biggest one they had, either.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 23, 2012, 09:35:01 PM
I used to own a 48" heavy-duty screwdriver.  It was awesome, and basically a finely made crowbar.  I'm not sure what happened to it.  Might possibly be in my brother's basement somewhere.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 23, 2012, 11:40:34 PM
Harbor Freight is one of those stores that girls really shouldn't enjoy but I AM DYING TO GO.

Stop being sexist. Girls really should enjoy tools - all mine do ;)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on August 24, 2012, 12:09:54 AM
My tools are bigger, but my wife has more.
/Yes, I know how you read that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 25, 2012, 04:31:46 PM
 :rollin:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 25, 2012, 09:24:07 PM
I like tools. I'm not terribly coordinated though. Tools and I are a bad combo.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 26, 2012, 03:27:27 AM
She's the contractor type and I've bought her power tools for birthdays, xmas, anniversaries, etc. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 26, 2012, 03:30:32 AM
I have my own tools, but despite my rule that ALL THE THINGS MUST BE PUT BACK IN THE TOOLBOX AFTER USE, my tools turn up months later in places where they do not belong.  :harumph:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 26, 2012, 12:36:28 PM
At least yours show back up.  My   Mine just vanish.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 26, 2012, 05:03:37 PM
 :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 26, 2012, 07:08:15 PM
At least yours show back up.  My   Mine just vanish.

NO GOOD.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 28, 2012, 06:24:43 PM
I have a complaint. Whenever I reboot my phone, it randomly uninstalls an app. :nuts:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 28, 2012, 07:38:05 PM
Is it an Android?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 28, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
I really hate that they named their computer phone after a different kind of computer device.  It's like if there was a sedan called the Ford Pickup Truck, or a microwave called the Sanyo Clock Radio.

Not that other phones don't have stupid names.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on August 28, 2012, 08:57:30 PM
Is it an Android?
Yes. And the fact that you even ask that tells me I'm not the only one that happens to.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 29, 2012, 07:29:49 AM
My husband has one and has trouble with his like this; He gets a call, answers it but the people on the other end can't hear him when he talks but he can hear them.  But if he puts the call on speaker phone he's all good.  He's had 2 Androids do this.

My best friend has one and her sim card is freezing up her whole phone so she has to take out the battery and sim card and then put it all back in and restart her phone to get it to work.  This happens when she tries to take pictures or use her sim in general I guess.

I haven't heard of the dropping apps thing but I will add it to my list.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 29, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
I had to school this motherfucker on the phone about time zones today at 0515. It was a recorded call, he said so himself.

No idea what that was about.

But, you know, time zones. And I had to get up at 0530 anyway.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2012, 08:57:52 AM
Well, it was 0515 where you were, but it was probably like 1820 where he was, and so time zones hadn't been adopted there yet.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2012, 12:11:31 PM
Gmail now requires me to add "@gmail.com" to the end of my user name when logging in.

UTTER MORONS.

Doesn't get much failier than that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on August 29, 2012, 12:25:02 PM
I"ve always had to do that.  Granted I haven't had Gmail for very long.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2012, 12:35:28 PM
Actually, further investigations reveal that sometimes when I log in there's a weird email icon next to the user name box, and then I have to add the "@gmail.com".

Other times, no icon, and just the actual freaking user name works.

I don't care to know WTF.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 29, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
You've probably been hijacked.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 29, 2012, 01:02:31 PM
You've probably been hijacked.

I was gonna say, have you accepted any dodgy certificates lately?

I have to do that practically every day because we have an in-house https server and someone's too cheap to shell out for a certificate from a reputable CA. So Firefox makes me jump through hoops and for some reason I can't permanently store the exception. Anyway. !
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2012, 01:52:37 PM
I googled it (har) and apparently (if true) it's because you can also log into other kinds of Google accounts through Gmail . . . or secretly really because Google is making the login more of a pain in the ass in order to try to get more people to just stay logged in all the time.

Not to track their web habits, or anything, but solely for your convenience.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Talix on August 29, 2012, 02:42:15 PM
Well, it was 0515 where you were, but it was probably like 1820 where he was, and so time zones hadn't been adopted there yet.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on August 29, 2012, 03:31:31 PM
I can log into google using my yahoo account, because some dumbass invited me to a google group using that address instead of my gmail address.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2012, 03:35:53 PM
:doh:

Some people online are claiming Gmail has a new login to synch the phone app with the web app, or something.  The analysts keep saying it's Awesome! which only leads me to wonder how horrible the phone app must've been before this.  Not that the web app is SO bad (stupid, yes; terrible, not really), but it's . . . nothing special.

Which is probably for the best.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on August 29, 2012, 04:05:03 PM
The analysts keep saying it's Awesome! which only leads me to wonder how horrible the phone app must've been before this. 

AWFUL.  How do I get the new one?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 29, 2012, 04:07:41 PM
You people with your smart phones.  Curiously I work for one of the primary enablers for the technology. 

/me crawls back into my cave
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2012, 08:11:15 PM
There are no smart phones yet, just fancy ones, and pocket computers that have phones built in.  In many cases, they're really terrible phones.


Quote
How do I get the new one?

Allegedly there's a link on the current phone login page to let you try the new one, but Google sez the new one will be mandatory soonish.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
This morning I was clearing out a ridiculous number of megabytes of funny pictures from my drive onto a USB external drive.  Windows has the shitty file manager, so I was just using cut and paste.

Bumped the desk, and -- lo and behold -- the USB connection flaked out for a second.  I get an error message saying Windows couldn't write to the drive and data has been lost.

(A) A fraction-of-a-second connectivity problem, and you panic and fail?

(B) Data has been lost?  Windows, do you not understand the Clipboard?  With cut and paste, you shouldn't erase the original until the move has been completed.

But no.  It did, in fact, destroy the originals while also failing to move them.  I lost about 120 images out of several hundred.  Which, seriously, no great loss, because it's lolcat and hilarious GIFs and nothing that can't be more or less replaced.

But WTF.  So damned annoying.  And I guess I will never use cut and paste again for file operations.  Have to copy and then go manually erase the originals.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 06, 2012, 10:41:23 AM
But WTF.  So damned annoying.  And I guess I will never use cut and paste again for file operations.  Have to copy and then go manually erase the originals.

I knew this in, like, 1979 - haven't changed
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2012, 11:58:04 AM
It's just such a simple fucking principle and operation, I forgot that MS could completely fuck it up.  They do use a damned unnecessary temp directory for, say, unzipping archived files, etc.  But apparently not for moving files.

Using Windows is like an O Henry story that ends in a bloodbath.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 08, 2012, 04:42:54 PM
I don't know if they've redesigned Hotmail (again) or if they're having some kind of server/software/whatever problems, but it's not even functional for me. I can login, but I can't open mail.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 08, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YFJq7.png)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 08, 2012, 06:40:35 PM
:shrug:

I usually have as much glitch as anyone, but I've used Hotmail fine in both Firefox and Chrome (and IE) in the last 48.  But not in anything newer than XP, if that matters.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 08, 2012, 06:43:14 PM
It appears to be sporadic but widespread. They supposedly are working on it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 08, 2012, 06:46:04 PM
Yes, but are they making it better or worse?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 08, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
:galm: Always a good question, with them
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 15, 2012, 07:45:20 AM
I noticed on that Groupon site their URLs are... I dunno, fucked up. I'm not sure of the technical term. I guess it's URL Shortening (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_shortening).

On the Groupon site, "http://gr.pn/zmfvIT" will take you to "https://www.groupon.com/support".

DO NOT LIKE.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 15, 2012, 10:33:21 AM
Thank Twitter for that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 15, 2012, 03:05:49 PM
Yeah, I know it's not a new idea, but I don't think I've ever run across it internally like that. I guess they have created their own URL shortening service and registered it in the Pitcairn Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands) (.pn)

It's just such an obviously bad idea from a security standpoint, I can't believe it exists. If there was a way to hover over the link and show the final destination, I wouldn't have such an issue with it. There are add-ons that work for certain services that will do that, but according to that Wikipedia article, there are currently like 400 services that still survive (600 have died), and I doubt there will ever be an add-on service that can parse all of them.

While looking for an add-on, I noticed Macafee has a URL shortening service. Nice. A security company that endorses the idea.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 15, 2012, 08:13:51 PM
Yeah, I usually skip links like that unless they're something like a TinyURL from someone I know.

Besides, if I want to return to that link, I'm not going to get there easily from the autofinish in the browser.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 16, 2012, 04:26:29 AM
I think Fark has had that technology for a while. If you hover over one of their redirect links it shows the link, not the fark-based counter. Blame :bitzero:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2012, 09:13:16 AM
(A)  Google News, when I say to "Never" show me crap from the WSJ, don't put FIVE WSJ articles on my front page.  I don't care if they're Spotlight stories or whatever else.  I said never.

(B)  I suppose it's too much to hope for that you would not also give me WSJ stories 'hidden' as NASDAQ reports that have a byline that starts with "WSJ".  I realize you are incompetent / bought off.

(C)  Internet Explorer, stop telling me I have add-ons disabled.  I know I do.  I disabled them.  And if I didn't do anything about your obnoxious pop-up message the first 500 times, shut the hell up.

Microsoft:  Guessing Wrong About What You Want And Insisting Forever We Know Better Than You Do [tm]
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2012, 11:05:19 AM
Oh, also, updated Firefox, and now it no longer recognizes the Enter key.

WTF. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mybabysmomma on September 24, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
I'm sorry but that made me   :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on September 24, 2012, 12:12:40 PM
Chrome? Opera?

Set the damned thing on fire.

... Just not on me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2012, 02:13:37 PM
Gmail isn't work on Opera . . . on that one machine at work.  :shrug:

Chrome is installed on that machine, but it's only accessible from the guest user account (which is the account most people use).  It doesn't work from the admin or Manager account.  For the hell of it, I tried installing it from the Manager account -- XP didn't say, hey, you're not an admin and can't install stuff, but it did tell me that Chrome was already installed.

Helpful.

So, anyway, at the main work computer, if I want to login (which I do, because otherwise other people read my email), I use Opera for most things, and then I have both IE and Firefox running so I can have two email accounts also open.

TADA!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on September 24, 2012, 02:19:01 PM
Firefox has become the very thing it was supposed to save us all from. I'm pretty sure Exploder is faster and more reliable at this point.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on September 24, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
So, anyway, at the main work computer, if I want to login (which I do, because otherwise other people read my email), I use Opera for most things, and then I have both IE and Firefox running so I can have two email accounts also open.

TADA!

Are you familiar with the multi-login feature in Gmail (http://support.google.com/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1721977)? You can use the same browser window to have each of your emails working at the same time; no need for extra browsers.

Although now that I think of it, I stopped using that feature when I figured out how to poll my secondary Gmail account through the first; now all of the email for both accounts goes to my main.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2012, 03:15:52 PM
I am actually familiar with it, not that you could guess, but I run one Gmail account with JS and one without.

Long story.  Peculiar to me, too.

I kept threatening to learn how to scoop the Gmail emails from a POP / whatever thing and use Thunderbird, but then I heard they were discontinuing Thunderbird, and I got all annoyed.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on September 24, 2012, 03:37:50 PM
Yeah,  that's kind of outrageous. I just put one of my older friends (he's 84) on Thunderbird because it's a cleaner interface than the Windows Live Mail client. What's he supposed to do when some hacker breaches the security 2 years from now? Stoopid.

I figured out what I did with Gmail. I used the Accounts option in Settings to "Check mail from other accounts (using POP3)"; it basically sets Gmail up as my email client, without any software client installed, it just runs through the same old web interface. I dunno what the JS story is (and gather it would take a while to get), but that could be another option.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on September 26, 2012, 04:37:11 PM
Firefox has become the very thing it was supposed to save us all from. I'm pretty sure Exploder is faster and more reliable at this point.

THIS
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 26, 2012, 08:51:25 PM
I know -- I seriously want an Opera Light version that has no plug-ins at install, no Opera Unite stuff, no Dragonfly, no widgets, no Synchronize, and so on.  Lean, fast, and designed for browsing HTML, CSS, and, just maybe, optional JavaScript.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Min on September 27, 2012, 08:28:28 AM
I figured out what I did with Gmail. I used the Accounts option in Settings to "Check mail from other accounts (using POP3)"; it basically sets Gmail up as my email client, without any software client installed, it just runs through the same old web interface. I dunno what the JS story is (and gather it would take a while to get), but that could be another option.

I already have my "serious" account being forwarded to my "fun" account (who's going to take me seriously if they email me at miniwaankerbot...?)  But is there a way to email FROM the serious account without signing out of the waankerbot?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on September 27, 2012, 10:48:22 AM
I've got multiple ones forwarded to Gmail. When I compose a message I can choose which account to send it from by clicking on the "from" line on the webpage. I think that somebody reading headers could figure out accounts are connected.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on September 27, 2012, 11:21:05 AM
I already have my "serious" account being forwarded to my "fun" account (who's going to take me seriously if they email me at miniwaankerbot...?)  But is there a way to email FROM the serious account without signing out of the waankerbot?

What Stormneedle said. You just click a dropdown in your blank email while composing and select the account you want to use as the "From" option. Don't know about the header; if someone got wise they might catch that the email came from a linked account, but really, who's going to be that interested? Doubt it'd be a problem.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Min on September 27, 2012, 11:36:20 AM
I don't see a "from" menu.  But as long as I can have both accounts open at the same time (just figured out how to do it), I'm fine with that!  Thanks for tipping me off to that!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on September 27, 2012, 12:15:56 PM
I don't see a "from" menu.  But as long as I can have both accounts open at the same time (just figured out how to do it), I'm fine with that!  Thanks for tipping me off to that!

Oh, yeah. You'll only see that if you use the "Check mail from other accounts (using POP3)" function; which might or might not be necessary depending on how you use it; personally I found it easier than having to switch back and forth in tabs, but that's just a preference.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 03, 2012, 10:14:44 AM
Google continues to amaze me with their reduction of service improvements.

It used to be that when you googled something, the results would have a link included that showed the page cached. Some time back they changed that so that you had to hold your cursor over an invisible arrow and then wait for the link to the cache page to became visible in a new window.

It used to be that when you clicked that link, you would be taken to a cached version of that page, and your search terms would be highlighted, each term being highlighted in a different color. No more. Now, instead of showing the terms highlighted, you get this helpful advice:

Quote
Tip: To quickly find your search term on this page, press Ctrl+F or ⌘-F (Mac) and use the find bar.

In other words, "Use your own browser to find the search terms. What are we, your search engine?"

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on October 03, 2012, 11:01:53 AM
That and the fact that the companies that pay them are now prioritized in the results. I wish there was an alternative out there that is like what Google was "back in the day." (Same goes for Firefox)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 03, 2012, 11:15:49 AM
The phrase for that is "domain crowding", and they've pissed off a lot of people with it, but apparently most people don't even realize it. Maybe it's because it's not as noticeable when you have your results set to 10, the default, but I normally kept mine at 100. Now I've cut back to 20 to reduce the effect.

Bing still offers the highlighted search terms in cached pages, but Bing is pretty limited. If M$ would at least try to compete with Google, they might have a chance. Putting out commercials saying people in a blind test prefer Bing over Google is not trying.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 03, 2012, 11:23:40 AM
The internet is fucking mysterious that way. 

  PayPal -- sucks and gets worse all the time.  No serious competition.

  eBay -- sucks and gets worse all the time.  No serious competition.

  Google -- sucks and gets worse all the time.  No serious competition.

  Facebook -- well, you get the idea.

Apparently when the dotcom bubble burst, it was apocalyptic.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 03, 2012, 11:28:18 AM
I've been told by others that Bing returns better searches than Google does -- on MS sites. That's not what I'd call a ringing endorsement, but it might be worth it to try the next time I'm looking for a problem solution and have free time to do a side by side comparison.

Free time. Yeah. Right.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on October 03, 2012, 03:24:01 PM
Annnnnnd, I just read this (http://observer.com/2012/09/broken-on-purpose/). Zuckerberg can kiss my ass.

If I could find another platform where most of my friends were, I'd go there. But right now FB (besides BC) is my primary mode of communicating with the outside world.  :bummed:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 03, 2012, 03:43:37 PM
Set up Google+? Up to now, it's lacking some of the problems Facebook seems to find inherent. It's lacking some things that might make it more usable as well, though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on October 03, 2012, 03:51:42 PM
My cousin posted a picture and quote from The Office, and facebook offered to allow him to sponsor it for only $7!!  Which is weird, because I thought it was only groups and fan pages and stuff that they were asking for money from.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 03, 2012, 04:54:17 PM
Set up Google+? Up to now, it's lacking some of the problems Facebook seems to find inherent.

G+ will probably remain decent until they eventually kill FB.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on October 03, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
I just haven't found the love for Google+... and only a handful of my friends are there (mostly my internet friends). Maybe i'll try to give it another chance.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 03, 2012, 08:25:12 PM
That's the thing.  I'm not on FB in order to socialize but specifically to stay in contact with specific people who are on FB and apparently incapable of email or keeping up a blog, etc.  I'm not in favor of a Facebook-like social site; I don't think it's a particularly good form of social interaction, internet or otherwise. 

So I would totally switch to G+ if the internet-dysfunctional people I go to FB for would switch to G+.  But they'll probably still be on FB after FB has gone the way of GeoCities.  (Which can't be too soon.)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 04, 2012, 06:47:41 AM
Both of my machines at home run XP SP3, same numbers.  They're so very not identical in ways that are never confidence-inspiring.

Each of them has an admin account and a user account.  Today I accidentally discovered that on one of them, at the login screen, if I enter the user password into the admin login, it logs me into the user account.  Which actually is sensible, although it makes it look like it's logging into the admin account, which alarmed me for a moment.

But, yes, on the other machine, it just asks if I've forgotten my admin password.

:eyeroll:

I'm going to have to try this on the XP machines at work.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 04, 2012, 12:46:04 PM
Nope.  That only works on that one machine, as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 04, 2012, 02:26:36 PM
That's kind of weird... how long since XP was last installed on that machine?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 04, 2012, 06:24:07 PM
Both machines came blessedly pre-installed.  I updated both to SP3.

Verified earlier that if I put the admin password into the user login, it logs into the admin account.  There's no confusion between the accounts -- Windows knows which is which.  It just logs into whichever one I enter the password for.

Weird, but not problematic.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2012, 03:51:04 PM
And . . . that login trick doesn't work anymore.

I don't know whether to laugh or to not give a shit.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 09, 2012, 04:07:19 PM
Matt's Solution to Everything©: Set it on fire.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on October 09, 2012, 06:44:11 PM
Yes. Fire makes everything clean again.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2012, 07:35:37 PM
Fire's good, but it also requires the visceral satisfaction of debugging the thing with an axe handle first. 

Trust me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 09, 2012, 10:12:00 PM
Axe handles burn pretty good too. Don't ask me how I know this.

I like fire.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on October 10, 2012, 12:36:37 AM
i like turtles.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 10, 2012, 06:28:10 AM
Fire's good, but it also requires the visceral satisfaction of debugging the thing with an axe handle first. 

Trust me.

I suppose not everyone derives the same visceral satisfaction that I do from setting something on fire. A lot of times I like to take my MAP gas torch and just burn bits at a time instead of burning the entire thing wholesale; that's way more interesting (multicolored flames!) than a general burn. Plus it's hot enough to melt solder, so it's interesting to see where that stuff winds up.

Just wear a mask. Those fumes can be a problem.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 10, 2012, 08:54:51 AM
Quote
Axe handles burn pretty good too.

Ow!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 11, 2012, 09:18:18 PM
One of my XP machines:

If I plug my external USB hard drive into USB Slot 1 and turn the machine on, fine, Windows boots, there's no fanfare, and the drive is accessible just like an internal drive, as God and I intended.

If I plug it into USB Slot 2 and turn the machine on, Windows boots, but it tells me it's found new hardware, and that I don't have the authority to install new hardware. 

:nonplused:

If I then unplug the drive and plug it back in, Windows notices it (even if I hold down Shift), scans it without being asked to, and asks me what software I want to use . . . just open a File Explorer instance, you dumb piece of shit.  Or mount the damned drive and do nothing else until I say so.

But USB Slot 1, and no issues.  WTF.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 12, 2012, 08:26:22 PM
SO HOLY F$CK there's a person I generally refer to as "PG" (:huh:), and I have totally normal (seriously) pictures of her . . . somewhere . . . and someone I know wanted to know what "PG" looked like. 

So.  How hard can this be?

AS IT TURNS OUT if you do a Windows File Search for "PG", Windows cleverly returns every singly JPG file.  Because it doesn't know the difference between a filename and a file extension.

:doh:

Honestly.  I do not know WHAT goes on at Microsoft.  But they clearly are not familiar with computers.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 13, 2012, 01:53:38 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 19, 2012, 04:36:03 PM
GOOGLE NEWS, STOP BEING SUCH A WHORE

Seriously, I have blocked the WSJ and like eight alternate WSJ sources -- their department in India (:eyeroll:), various blogs, etc.  But Google keeps finding ways to shoehorn them into my feed.

The entire World News category listings in my feed right now:

WSJ: BOJ may consider fresh easing
- ForexLive (blog)

Bangladeshi arrested for trying to blow up NY Federal Reserve
- Mumbai Mirror

WSJ: BOJ may consider fresh easing.
-Kyodo Blog (blog)

WSJ.com adds Korean-language site
- BtoB Magazine

Kristina O'Neill Leaves Harper's Bazaar For WSJ.
- New York Observer

WSJ calls Clinton 'mute' just as she opens up
- Washington Post (blog)



I get it, already:  The WSJ shovels money up your ass.  I don't give a fuck.  The WSJ is not a real news source and does not belong in my feed.  Cut it the fuck out.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 19, 2012, 05:00:08 PM
Breaking the Google News habit was not that bad. I missed it for a couple of weeks. I still occasionally use it for a news search, I just won't use it as my main source of news or for just browsing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 19, 2012, 05:34:03 PM
Most of the news I pay attention to, I get from Morning Edition on NPR. I get a little from Twitter (Subscribed to a couple of news outlets); and a little from links people post around. But seriously, if it's not important enough for Renee Montaigne and Steve Innskeep, it's not important enough for me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 19, 2012, 07:12:54 PM
NPR makes me crazy.  :shrug:

I was sticking with the BBC and Boston Globe sites for quite awhile, but I kept finding myself wanting a more general viewpoint.

To be fair (I guess?), I think part of the reason I hate Google News's bullshit so much is that unlike the other two sites I mentioned it seems to promise to be a proper aggregator.  And it sure fails at that.  But the expectation is a lot of the problem.

On the other hand, if I went to buy a hammer and then found that the hammer was actually a crescent wrench, I wouldn't just blame my expectation for the fact that it was a pretty shitty hammer.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 19, 2012, 08:21:38 PM
If the only tool you have is Google, every problem starts to look like a __________

(fitb)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 19, 2012, 09:20:11 PM
Every problem looks like Google used to solve it better, but now they kind of suck.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 25, 2012, 11:24:15 AM
SO . . . ever since a Windows XP automatic update maybe two months ago, Windows has started doing this new memory management thing that is utter crap.  I don't know if it's an actual change to the OS or just some setting being automatically changed.  But it's fucking horrible.

Basically, if I stop using an app for more than a couple of minutes, Windows deallocates most of the memory that app was using.  This wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, except:

A)  It does this without regard to whether any other app would like to use that memory, or whether the machine is low on available memory.

B)  It is INCREDIBLY slow to return that memory to the app when I switch back.

Seriously.  SO SLOW.  And this process locks up the machine, for some reason.  I can't find any changes in my virtual memory settings, but something's different.

For example:  My typical Opera setup often uses 250 MB of memory.  To me, this seems like a huge amount, but it doesn't stress the machine, and a single Internet Exploder tab running YouTube or a Flash game often goes over 300 MB, so I guess it's not actually that much.

I leave the machine or switch to another app for a few minutes.  When I go back, Opera's locked up.  Task Manager shows that its memory usage has dropped to 30k but is slowly climbing.  At around 300k per second.  It speeds up a bit and sometimes it hits about twice that, but that still means I have to wait anywhere from five to fifteen minutes for Opera to become functional again.  When I'm lucky, I get to use the computer again in as little as three minutes.

And it's not just Opera -- I've gone through this with Exploder, too.  Windows, once again you are not being helpful.

The extra-annoying part of this is that since that XP update that fucked my power settings, I can no longer change my power settings, and currently Windows hibernates if I leave the machine alone for ten minutes.  So if I leave the room, I have to duck back in periodically to move the mouse cursor and keep the machine from falling asleep.  Otherwise, it will now take a good six or seven minutes, minimum, to wake back up. 

Fucking Windows!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on October 25, 2012, 12:35:41 PM
It's perfectly okay to upgrade to Win 7.

Vike has XP on his machine here for when we play Popular MMORPG and it is awful. Everyone involved in the XP project should be euthanized.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 25, 2012, 12:52:01 PM
Ha! Windows 7 breaks almost all the vendor-supplied data acquisition and processing software we have for lab and oceanographic instruments. We are tied to XP.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 25, 2012, 01:26:43 PM
At work they've announced the deadline for moving machines to Win7 earlier this week to be January 2014. I may be one of the last hold-outs. It's fine on my home machine, I'm just not willing to have to reinstall and beg/borrow/crash to get tools that I use maybe once a month but when I need them I NEED THEM NOW.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: feffer on October 25, 2012, 01:42:20 PM
I like 7.  I hope we don't move to 8 anytime soon.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 25, 2012, 01:43:28 PM
Lost my phone last night. It wasn't not in the store where I stopped (at least, not last night an hour later), and although it was turned on and had a full battery, it hasn't been turned on so I can use the locator tools. Nuisance and annoying, but I think I might live. But there's insurance on it, and they'll send me a replacement (after paying a deductible, of course). Instead of sending it to home and getting it taken out of that mailbox, I thought that I'd send it to work.

We're a fairly large campus, about 16 square blocks. If I get it sent to the mail room by using just the street address, it takes them about two weeks to look me up in the company directory, send it to West LA where I used to work, and then send it back here and lose it. So we put our building number and room number in our mail addresses. If it's not in the 3 story main clinic building (where they film Gray's Anatomy scenes), the delivery services will go to the building and find you. I've done this before with things for work, and it's never a problem.

Unless, of course, the website for the claims company can't handle apartment numbers, much less two distinct strings that have non-numeric characters involved, like "Bldg.". The site suggests sending the replacements to your work, but can't handle a business that could have multiple buildings? To even get the mail room to find me you have to put my department in the address. My department name is all letters and are those stripped out by the website's so-called "algorithm".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on October 25, 2012, 07:23:42 PM
Egads.  :trance:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 25, 2012, 07:56:23 PM
:doh:  This is NOT yet the era of smartphones.  Anyway, can't you, like, call your lost phone, tell it that it's lost, and have it send you its location?  Does it not have GPS?  I mean, mine doesn't, but mine doesn't even have a clock.


Windows 7 is puke.  Honestly, the look and feel of it is so awful that I can't stand it.  I'd rather go back to Windows 98, to tell the truth, although I'd probably just learn to put up with figuring how to make Linux my bitch.  Windows 8 is even worse.  MS just despises traditional interfaces to the point of throwing out the baby and the bathtub with the bath water.  And that water was cleaner than what they wind up with.

I don't play even vaguely recent games, so XP's not an issue as far as that goes.  I admit that I can't imagine trying to play anything recent on a platform that old. 

But XP is actually an upgrade over the version of Windows it superceded, and that's fucking rare.  Switching away and hoping for that lightning to strike again seems like taunting fate.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 25, 2012, 10:58:51 PM
I could have, Axe, and even have wiped it to factory settings, but it has to be turned on for the signal to get to it. I had a free program called SeekDroid installed (rather than pay the carrier $5/month for the same thing).
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 25, 2012, 11:21:27 PM
Still.

A smartphone should be able to guess when you've left it behind, and then automatically email you with its location.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on October 25, 2012, 11:45:27 PM
RFID chip in the ass. They can do proximity IIRC.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on October 26, 2012, 12:49:47 AM
Still on XP at work.  Lots of legacy apps that probably won't like 7.

Wife's laptop is 7 and I can't find anything, so not really looking forward to ever changing at work.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: vox8 on October 26, 2012, 11:39:56 AM
Elliott told me he is running Windows 10 on his laptop.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 26, 2012, 11:53:05 AM
OK. What base is he counting to 10 in?

The child is always right.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 26, 2012, 12:13:52 PM
Octal Child
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Talix on October 26, 2012, 12:21:57 PM
Elliott told me he is running Windows 10 on his laptop.


:lol:

I believe the children are our future.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on October 26, 2012, 01:46:13 PM
on my friend kerry's page (she works for MS):

(http://i.imgur.com/V7YVi.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 26, 2012, 02:25:29 PM
Wait, there's a fourth service pack for XP?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 26, 2012, 02:34:46 PM
Wait, there's a fourth service pack for XP?

Collect 'em all!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: First Post on October 26, 2012, 04:03:46 PM
Lest we forget, the immutable Laws of Windows:

* every other version is good/sucks. 98SE good, WinME bad. XP good, Vista bad. Win7 good (the best yet, fact), Win8 bad (too console-y/tablet-y/closed hood-y)

* no version of Windows is good on release, ever. Even the mostly solid versions need a service pack or two before they are palatable.

(personal: always set to whatever "classic mode" they offer. I stayed with XP longer than most, but am loving 7. RAM is hella cheap right now and it takes advantage of that...XP you can't cheat to utilize more like you could with 98)



Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 27, 2012, 11:30:14 AM
I loathe Windows 7.

But then, I hate XP too.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hisey on October 28, 2012, 05:44:44 PM
I'm not necessarily a MS whore here, but I will say that I like XP (my desktop upstairs) and 7 (this here laptop). I never had to deal with Vista but my friend did, and her computer ended up in the trash.
she hated it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on October 30, 2012, 02:23:48 AM
I live in the shadow of the Microsoft Empire and have used/owned Macs going on 20 years or so now. :shrug:

ETA: Wait, I didn't mean to be snarky or sound like I was lording it over anyone. It's just that the Microsoft/Starbucks/Amazon culture that's taken over here really makes my skin crawl.... and I'm probably bitter/resentful/wistful I didn't get in on it on the ground level of my professional career.  :bummed:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 30, 2012, 06:48:26 AM
Eh.  If you had wanted to sell out, there were better buyers.  ;)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2012, 11:00:56 AM
I realize Google has been steadily sinking in Suck Harbor for quite awhile now, but I just today noticed that:

- I no longer get an Advanced Search option.

- The standard search ignores the "-" operator.  You know, the one that means "don't return results that include this term".

Shit gets shittier all the time.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
Dear Software:  Never ask me if I only want to see the stuff that was delivered securely unless you're going to also give me the option, right there in that dialog box, to see WTF has your shorts in a knot.

Sincerely,

I Will Debug You With Scorpions
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 10, 2012, 03:42:43 PM
I realize Google has been steadily sinking in Suck Harbor for quite awhile now, but I just today noticed that:

- I no longer get an Advanced Search option.

- The standard search ignores the "-" operator.  You know, the one that means "don't return results that include this term".

Shit gets shittier all the time.  :thumbsdn:

I saw an article the other day that said Google was moving the search tools to the top of the page so it would be like their mobile version. Is that what you're talking about, or are you talking about the actual "advanced search" button, which is hidden within the settings button and looks like a gear?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2012, 05:13:48 PM
I don't get the 'gear' unless I'm logged in to a Gmail account.  Without the gear, there doesn't seem to be any Advanced Search option.  This complaint is specific to the non-JS version of Google, as I find the regular JS version so crappy that I usually won't bother with it.

I screwed around with it some more at work today, though, and neither version seems to reliably understand the "-" operator anymore, though.  Effing moronic.

I've never used the mobile version, but presumably it's more like the JS version and less like a good search engine, based on their track record.  I tried the current 'Altavista' / Yahoo search, though, and it seems to return curiously identical results to Google's.  I'm not going to Bing, though.  Never happen. 

I'll find something else, or I won't.  :shrug:  Google's still tolerable for casual searches through the browser, although the Chrome version of that is obnoxious as all shit.  There's no point in real-time search results if you can't guess what I'm typing.  That just slows the process by like two orders of magnitude and pisses me off.  It's like a five-year-old trying to guess what you're going to ask.  Hold your fucking horses.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 10, 2012, 06:53:54 PM
The non-js version here is still the old style, with the search options down the side, and the settings button is in the top right hand corner of the screen inside the black bar.

But it wouldn't surprise me if they changed it so that it works for registered users only. I think that will eventually happen for all their products, except basic search. I clicked on one of my bookmarks earlier today, something related to the USGS, but it was built on the Blogger platform. I got a message saying you must sign in for the new Blogger to function.

My hate for them continues to grow. I use Bing more and more.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2012, 08:20:48 PM
I've been fooling around with it some more, and I'm just increasingly mystified.  The non-JS signed-in version I'm getting does have the gear, but still no option for the advanced search.  Search results give me the options down the left for Images, etc, but still no advanced search. 

Worse, when I was poking at the settings, I noticed that by default somehow Google's guesses about what you're searching for will wind up in your browser's History.

Wait.  So if I typed "how do i" and Google guessed "how do i fellate horses", that "how do i fellate horses" would show up in my browser's History?

I don't think I'm ever using the JS version of Google again.  :uncertain:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 10, 2012, 08:29:00 PM
Advanced search is down at the bottom of the page. Sorry, I assumed it was behind the settings like the js version.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 10, 2012, 08:36:29 PM
(http://www.guildhaven.org/images/smilies/paranoid.gif)

Holy shit!  It is!

But only if you do a search first, and then it's down below the search results.  It doesn't appear on the clean open page.

:eyeroll:

I don't think the people at Google remember what it is they do at Google, anymore.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on November 14, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
chrome won't load google.com.

wtf?

no problem with firefox or any other web sites.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 14, 2012, 11:47:05 PM
Yeah?  I intermittently find that I can't load Google with Opera, but it'll load fine with IE.  Usually if I wait an hour or so, it'll work fine with Opera.  I'd been thinking this was some kind of Opera problem or AT&T.

AT&T "improved" my internet (DSL) a little over a month ago, and now I often get Server Not Found errors that vanish if I just reload the page.  Haven't noticed any other improvements.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 14, 2012, 11:48:29 PM
wat
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 24, 2012, 11:45:09 AM
Could someone please make a fucking working speed dial type extension for Chrome?

You wouldn't think this would be so goddamned complicated.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 01, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
I finally got tired of being asked so I 'upgraded' Firefox on my MBP (10.7.5) to ver 17.0.1.

Pretty much all of the suck has disappeared. :hmm:

It's way faster, doesn't crash, Flash works (yay pr0n!), and when I tell it to quit, it quits. It still works with NoScript and Chatzilla.

I am ... cautiously optimistic.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 01, 2012, 07:45:24 PM
I don't use any of them there customization plug-in things for FF, but . . . if it works again, I will sure as hell try to install it at work.

:thumbsup:

Frankly, I get more than a little tired of Chrome ignoring me.  FF is much more responsive.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 01, 2012, 08:05:35 PM
I finally got tired of being asked so I 'upgraded' Firefox on my MBP (10.7.5) to ver 17.0.1.

17?  :hmm:

Oh. Great. They're not supporting 10.5 anymore.

 :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 01, 2012, 08:50:40 PM
It's a version a week these days up in Mountain View, it seems. :nonplused:

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 01, 2012, 09:16:01 PM
They probably misunderstood a success tip they got under the table from Microsoft about sacrificing versions.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 01, 2012, 09:20:17 PM
I can't blame Mozilla for me being so far behind on my OS. It is 5 years old, which is like 200 in software years. Apple, Adobe and Chrome gave up on 10.5 long ago.

I'm hesitant to put OS money into this mini. It's starting to act a little flaky.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on December 04, 2012, 05:11:04 AM
I hear you on that. It's not just replacing the Mini -- if I upgrade, I really should get a laptop. I'll need to upgrade Photoshop. I'll have to ignore Steve's technical ignorance and fear and buy a wifi router.

Then we get into issues like, well, if we have wifi, it would be nice to have a TV large enough that I can read words on the screen, or maybe a game console to play games stream movies, a tablet for no particular reason, etc.

This is thousands of dollars I do not have. And no credit cards anymore.   :( But at least I have my health!  :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 04, 2012, 07:33:25 AM
I know I've done this rant before, but:  A big computer monitor costs less than a big TV, although the prices are starting to converge, and the computer monitor will produce a better image unless you spend a lot more on the TV.

The downside is that you need a computer to drive video to the monitor; a cable box won't do it, in my experience, and I don't know if game consoles will work with it.  Netflix, Hulu, etc, can make some of that pretty trivial, though.  Also, if you really need a BIG one, it's easier to find a giant TV than a giant computer monitor.

If you need a really big image, though, a projector is cheaper than a giant TV.  But if acuity is a big issue, you'll need a really flat screen to project onto, not just a typical white wall.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 13, 2012, 10:52:08 AM
Google makes it harder to search for pron through Google image search. (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57558795-93/google-tweaks-image-search-to-make-porn-harder-to-find/)

I'm having a hard time trying to think of a way that this would negatively affect me personally, but it still pisses me off on general principle  :P

What it boils down to is if you go to GIS and type "blowjob", you will not get any image results that actually show a blowjob. You might get an image of Michelle Bachmann eating a sausage, for example. If you search for "blowjob girls", for example, you will get porn images, but the images will all be grayed-out and there will be a pop-up window asking you if you are sure you really want to see pron. Same goes for "fellatio", although I did see one pron image that slipped through. Apparently the porn is still there somewhere, but you have to type magic words to make is show up.

I'd love to know their true incentive(s) behind this. One thing I suspect is they want the user to be more specific in their search so the info they gather on the user becomes more specific, therefore more valuable. Another may be some liability issue, protecting themselves from being accused of serving pron when it has not been requested. Yeah, I dunno about that one, but maybe it made sense to some lawyer. Another may be to reduce non-paying traffic, assuming pron doesn't pay Google much ad money.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 13, 2012, 11:11:28 AM
Porn sites pay more in advertising revenue than anyone else, and Google mostly uses paid search results nowadays.  Ergo, they come up with an excuse to make it harder for people to find porn, and they can charge porn sites more to still come up in searches where people are looking for porn.

Frankly, this crapitization of the net has gone on for a long time, and it's utter shit all over.  Every major site should have a Newb version and an Internet version, the former for people who are online but don't know what they're doing or what they want, and the latter for people who know the Newb version is bullshit.

The Apple / MS friendly-software bullshit has always been horrible.  It spreads like herpes.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on December 13, 2012, 01:37:19 PM
This will just create meta search sites which use google but add the necessary magic words.  If google thinks the pr0n industry will share some of their revenue, they really don't understand that the pr0n purveyors are the true innovators of the internet.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 13, 2012, 02:41:13 PM
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This will just create meta search sites which use google but add the necessary magic words.

Oooh.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 20, 2012, 02:58:18 PM
I really have only one thing to say about Instagram, and that is; if I want an image to look like a scan of a faded color photo from 1972? I will go to the closet and pull out a faded color photo from 1972 and scan it.

Also this (http://www.mamapop.com/2012/12/everything-i-love-gets-ruined-instagrams-new-terms-of-service-are-really-really-bad.html) is funny because FUUUUUU RAGE IN SEPIA WITH EDGE BLUR

Also "Netflix-shaped hole" is a good name for a band
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 20, 2012, 05:14:03 PM
I never had a Polaroid. I don't have any old prints that look like an Instagram. I guess I could leave some out in the sun for a week, that would probably do it.

Other than that, I have mixed feelings on the news aspect - on one hand it feels good to have my paranoid ramblings vindicated, on the other, meh.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 20, 2012, 09:00:16 PM
There are many reasons to dislike Instagram, but my reason is that 95% of the Instagram pictures I've seen have been utterly pointless and unrequested and things I would never have requested to see a photo of.

Give someone a microphone, and soon they start thinking every idea that passes is one worth broadcasting.  That's how we get radio morning shows and related atrocities.  Instagram is the photo equivalent.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on December 20, 2012, 09:00:55 PM
Egads.

I had to share that on FB, because I know a lot of people there who use Instagram. And probably will continue to, because no one really gives a shit anymore about privacy and ownership issues. :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 25, 2013, 01:53:31 PM
I've noticed that since one of the recent 'security' updates, XP has a tendency to change the order of windows all on its own.

Alt-Tab switch to another window.  Five minutes go by.  Alt-Tab and, uh, wait, this isn't the last window I had on top.  Now it's four or five windows deep.  :confused:

Even better, though, I often see this one:  Switch logins.  Switch back.  OK, we're back.  Start using window that's on top, and . . . XP puts a different one on top.  Hey, what?  Oh, and now another one.  Takes a good extra 60 seconds to settle down.

Yay.  MS never was good at task-switching, much less multitasking, but XP used to be pretty well-behaved in this regard.  It's always an adventure.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 25, 2013, 04:12:45 PM
They're still putting out updates for XP? Wow. If I ever reconnect my old PC to teh interwebs it will probably take forever to update. It's been over a year now. I don't have a working monitor for it, so no problem at the moment.

I need to do that though. Get a new monitor, that is.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 25, 2013, 04:31:35 PM
OS X's "Open Spaces" multi-desktop window thing from the Leopard/Snow Leopard era is THE WORST offender in this regard. It's horrible. You can put focus on a program and see the menu bar and see the window you want checked in the "Window" menu but that window is several layers down below the windows of other programs. Worst Apple software I've seen since, heck, I dunno, Multifinder. Ugh.

Fortunately it's obsoleted in the newer OS releases, and the new swipey-horizontal window version works better. So far.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 25, 2013, 04:39:25 PM
I've never used that. Or Expose´. Except maybe accidentally sometimes. Like a while back, I was scrolling and holding down "option", except really I was holding down "control", and it sent the display into a magnification mode I had never seen before. I had no idea what I had done or how to correct it  :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 25, 2013, 04:42:10 PM
It's gotten to the point where I miss the morass of OS/2.  :shrug:


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I don't have a working monitor for it, so no problem at the moment.

I need to do that though. Get a new monitor, that is.

Yes, this is me, all the time.  I think I have . . . four monitors donated to the shop, at this point.  I have one monitor at home, and one machine with a working built-in display.  At home I have two machines that lack monitors, and at work I have another one like that. 

All three of those displayless machines are faster than the machines I can use.  For the last couple of weeks I've been debating just using one of them to replace the main computer at the shop, which has gotten to that old-computer point where it overheats constantly and slows to a crawl.  But I'm torn because I'm annoyed about having already donated so much equipment to the shop.

On the other hand, the machines I'm not using because they don't have monitors are just getting older and more obsolete even though they aren't being used . . . .

Fucking computers, man.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 03, 2013, 01:26:09 PM
I happened to use GIS from Chrome today instead of from Opera with JS turned off. 

Seriously, I don't understand how people are not flocking to Bing.  I'm sure Bing is crap, but it hasn't actually betrayed me by going from excellent to utter crap.  :thumbsdn:  I seriously felt like I'd gotten my fingers caught in a door.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 03, 2013, 02:04:12 PM
it took me a little while to get used to it. while i liked the old style much better, it's stil miles ahead of bing. plus, it's not microslop.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 03, 2013, 03:43:33 PM
I've been using Bing for a while. I only use Google when I can't find what I need on Bing. Bing is pretty bad in some respects, but the Google hate within me got to a point I feel better using Bing, even if it's an inferior product.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 03, 2013, 04:35:15 PM
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the Google hate within me got to a point I feel better using Bing, even if it's an inferior product.

Yeah, I'm genuinely having a hard time with this.  I really, really hate MS, but I'm getting to really, really hate Google.  It's not the same kind of hate, but it's still a dilemma.

There are only a couple of things I regularly dislike about using Gmail in Basic HTML mode, as webmail goes, but regular Gmail annoys the crap out of me all the time.  It's so slow and clunky and obnoxious.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 03, 2013, 05:21:09 PM
:o.O:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2013, 05:41:39 PM
If you are an electronics manufacturer and you use non-standard fasteners, you're just an asshole.  You're an enemy of humanity, and it is an ethical triumph if you go out of business and a black mark against our species if you do not.

No exceptions.  No excuses except if tampering with the device represents a legitimate health hazard.  Just having batteries in there, for instance, does not make it a legitimate health hazard.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on February 11, 2013, 10:56:33 PM
If you are an electronics manufacturer and you use non-standard fasteners, you're just an asshole.  You're an enemy of humanity, and it is an ethical triumph if you go out of business and a black mark against our species if you do not.

No exceptions.  No excuses except if tampering with the device represents a legitimate health hazard.  Just having batteries in there, for instance, does not make it a legitimate health hazard.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 12, 2013, 05:52:04 PM
AT&T dudes had much less trouble installing the Double DSL (U-verse) here, but it turns out they broke our main phone line.  So now when people call in, it silently goes right to our AT&T voicemail, which has never worked.  We'll never hear those messages.

Hopefully they can fix the phone line tomorrow.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 13, 2013, 01:57:35 AM
 :lol:

i've been at my job 3 1/2 years and have never set up my voice mail. every single day i've looked at my phone and wondered about what was there behind that red, blinking light.

i honestly meant to do it today. i even had the paper with the instructions on it on my desk today. i moved it so my art director wouldn't draw on it when he came over to my desk so i forgot.

i have no idea about the messages i've gotten over the past 3 years.

maybe i'll get to it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2013, 09:35:12 AM
:lol:

Ours has been set up a few times.  It just doesn't work for shit.  You'll record a new greeting, and it'll switch back to the old one.  Or it'll drop messages.  Or it'll tell you that you have messages, and you'll go to listen to them, and it'll say you have no messages.  These things happen a lot.

At the other shop, they set up an option so they get the messages converted to text on their computer.  It doesn't work well, and it drops messages during that process.  So it's not good.

I've tried to get the voicemail serviced cancelled, but I get outvoted by the other management types.  Even though (A) customers call and think they've left us a message, when they haven't, and (B) it often tells people the wrong hours that we're open, and (C) FFS.  Besides, it's like $15 a month.  You can still buy an answering machine for $30.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on February 13, 2013, 02:37:10 PM
We have the call pilot extension for outlook so I don't even know how to check it from the phone.  I listen to the messages through my computer in outlook.  I can also archive them which can come in handy some day.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 13, 2013, 09:22:34 PM
so, the other day i mentioned our IT company and how they were in "fixing" our servers. today everything went down. email, intranet, internet, the whole shebang. after trying to get them to remotely fix it (did i mention we didn't have internet) we finally started poking around inside the server closet. turns out they plugged some pretty important components (power conditioner, i think) into a power strip that they stuck to the wall with foamy double stick tape. the tape gave way today and the strip fell pulling out the power cord of the main power unit.  :eyeroll:

we plugged it back in and cable tied it to the rack (oh, that's what those are for? cables?). it was still spotty because things didn't boot up properly so they sent out someone (http://www.wondercostumes.com/imgzoom/clubbers-clown-jacket-costume-3628.jpg) who just ended up making a mess of everything. he was still working on it when i finally said fuck it and left. the whole office kind of ground to a halt.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2013, 09:27:43 PM
Yeah, you don't want to unplug everything.  But weren't there UPS backups?  Or whatever.


When I worked at a computer company, our resident hardcore PC and electronics geek built all of his machines from pieces instead of just ordering a high-end bastard from Dell or wherever.  I think he mostly did it for the fun of it, although he was adamant about reversing the airflow so he could filter it.

But anyway.  He always mounted the components inside the case using double-stick tape.  It did make his machines quieter than anyone else's.  Well, that and the fans he used.  He often stressed that there are different grades of double-stick tape . . . .  You gotta use the good stuff if you're hanging something heavy and/or important.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 13, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
there are UPSs but since it's inside a closet i guess you couldn't hear an alarm. it's supposed to send an email, but that must be broken. the whole system kind of cascaded off over about 1/2 hour.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2013, 10:39:22 PM
Ah.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on February 13, 2013, 11:15:25 PM
Considering what you guys design, you should charge them for a plan to put it together correctly.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 14, 2013, 12:43:12 AM
i think about posting pics to those nightmare server cabinet web sites. it's a fucking mess behind the racks. it's embarrassing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 17, 2013, 07:57:40 PM
Cascading failure mode. More common than you might think! And it's not always because someone was stupid. More often it's because someone was smart.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 18, 2013, 03:40:45 PM
Crap Windows wireless stopped working on my main system.  I get one of those "Windows can't find a certificate" bullshit error messages.  Came up right in the middle of typing a post after months of working fine.

Much googling fails to reveal WTF Windows is on about, or why this happens.  The solution most people recommend isn't possible on my machine, as it involves unchecking an 802.1 authentication checkbox that's (A) not checked and (B) grayed out.  And if I change down to WPA security, it tells me I'm required to use a network password (never mind that it doesn't usually call this a "network password") that's exactly 10 characters long.  Well, great, except that the router disagrees.  And that password has always been 8 characters long, and you never complained before.  Like on my other machine, which uses that password and has WPA set up.

So, who the fuck knows.  MS ought to fix this basic horribly broken shit and not spend so much time on transparent buttons.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 19, 2013, 04:52:46 PM
Well, my home internet is gone, and frankly I'm so fed up with Windows wireless internet bullshit that I don't think I'm ever going to bother with it again.  Seriously.  I will see if it's possible to run a damned cable to the router without absolutely butchering any part of my house, and that's it.

What went wrong is that something changed when a Windows Update installed itself.  I don't know what it was, but it made my machines disconnect from the router periodically.  The first machine started doing it, and it was just a hassle.  When I rebooted the other machine, while testing the wireless settings to see if I could figure out what was wrong with the first machine, it installed the update, and . . . GFY.

The ultimate problem seems to be -- and good god this is so stupid:  When I went through a month of agony trying to get my new router set up with AT&T, I was so grateful / sick of it when I got it working that I made absolutely zero changes that I didn't have to make.  Among other things, I never changed the default name of the router.  It stayed just NETGEAR.

Right now, I have a neighbor who's equally lazy.  And to Windows apparently both NETGEAR routers appear identical.  So the machines will attempt to connect to either router, and fuck you.  Oddly enough, my network key does not work on the neighbor's router. 

I spent like two hours trying to figure out why I could not change the router's settings.  When I got mad enough, I said Fuck You, unplugged the router's power supply, and went to do other things.  When I sat down at my desk again, I noticed that . . . hey, both machines can still see the router?  How is THAT possible?  :eyeroll:

But I can't change the router's name without being able to connect to it, and the machines seem obsessed with almost always trying to connect to the neighbor's router.  Any neither of my machines is really portable anymore, and my house only has one working phone jack.  So I can't bring the router to the machines or vice versa.

But you know what?  This wireless shit has always been shit.  It's so amazingly poorly designed and implemented that all humans, everywhere, should feel humiliated by it.  It's just not consumer-ready.  There is zero excuse for it being substantially more complicated than non-wireless internet. 

Millions of people have wireless internet on their phones that works right almost all the time, right out of the box.  Not because that's easier to do, but because the companies involved know that you'll switch to any of half a dozen other companies if they fuck it up too badly.  MS and Apple have no real worries there.  So fuck it.  (Apple has a little more dignity in this arena, but not enough for me.)

So I'll just go back to the higher speed and more secure non-wireless version.  I'm sure it'll be a huge pain in the ass to run a cable through my insulation-filled plaster walls.  But it won't be more of a pain in the ass than dealing with the fucking wireless bullshit has been.  And it's not like I move my computers from room to room all the time, anyway.

tl;dr :stbm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on February 20, 2013, 05:50:35 AM
We've remained wired all this time because Steve was suspicious of the security of using wireless.  :eyeroll:

(when we first moved in here, I did the whole drilling through the wall board thing, through the wall that connects the two closets in each of our offices. That was... fun. I can't imagine trying to do that through plaster though)

Strangely, we have a similar situation to yours with our new broadband modem (sort of). Last night I decided to test what kind of connection speed I'd get using the Apple's Airport wireless, only to discover we also have the NETGEAR naming problem.

At least the other two wireless users in the neighborhood are diligent about their security and have unique names for their hubs.

So now I have more research to do... but I have to wait for Steve to finish an article before I can start fiddling with the modem, which is in his office.  :whatever:

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 20, 2013, 04:32:15 PM
It's all such . . . madness.  :lol:  :eyeroll:

My house apparently has non-standard firestops at the sills of each floor, and previous owners have tried running various kinds of cables from floor to floor . . . and given up.  So I have phone and cable TV wires run along the outside of the house in stupid ways.  If I were planning on repainting the exterior, I'd tear them all off.

I've been looking online, and apparently the smart thing to do is to run a phone-line extension to the second floor and then plug the router in upstairs.  I had an idea that you didn't want to add any extra phone line onto a DSL line because of signal drop or something, but apparently you don't see any real loss until you hit a hundred meters.  The stupid wiring between the junction box and my phone jack is maybe 50', so another twelve feet to the second floor shouldn't be a problem.

If it turns out to be a problem, maybe I can use the phone line to pull an ethernet cable back down the other way . . . .
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 23, 2013, 01:17:03 PM
How is it that I never learned about bookmarklets? I've heard that term before, I know, but I guess I never looked into it, or maybe it was just so long ago that I have forgotten about it. Anyway, it seems to be a simple way to deal with... well, to do lots of stuff.

https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 24, 2013, 06:56:15 PM
ERMAHGERD CONFERHRSING

I want to migrate teh w1f3's website to a wordpress platform. our webhost supports all this, yay. So I just want to get wordpress up and running on my own computer so I can figure out how this shit works before moving to the public server, y'know? WELL. The instructions and readmes and howtos are fuuuuuucking incomprehensible. I've got MySQL installed, at the risk of letting Anacle know my email address :nonplused: I've got PHP installed, longest build I've ever run on any unix computer ever, helloooo, and yes sudo make install blablabla. And I downloaded wordpress and unpacked it, and now the instructions make no sense whatsoever. "Open wp-admin/install.php in your web browser." OK, I do this, and the browser goes into either "Save file?" or endless window popups, like an old pr0n site. HELPFUL. ok, kill -9, find some other directions: "First, create a MySQL database" ok, fine, "Have it belong to a user who has access blabla" ok, fine, BACK UP, create a new user, proceed, oh wait, doesn't work because the PATHs aren't set and how the fuck do you do that in bash anyway and GRAAAAAAA HULK SMASH the end.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 24, 2013, 08:53:23 PM
OK, now it's beaten me. Savvy dudes and dudettes, help! I'm trying to get MySQL/PHP/WordPress going on my OSX laptop (my intentions are impure and I solemnly swear I am up to no good), but I'm still stuck on Step 0.2. I've got MySQL installed and running and I can connect to the server using hte command line client, but whenever I try to create a database I get permission denied. Doesn't matter what user I tell the client I am when I'm connected, apparently. I've missed something important and fundamental. But what?

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 24, 2013, 09:38:05 PM

mysql> select user();
+----------------+
| user()         |
+----------------+
| n0rm@localhost |
+----------------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

mysql> create database testingdb;
ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'testingdb'
mysql>


so it thinks I'm user n0rm, EXCEPT when I try to create a database, then I'm user '', who clearly doesn't have permission. GREAT.

fuck you, oracle, right in the anacle
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on February 25, 2013, 12:05:47 AM
grant control on server to n0rm
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 25, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
I don't have permission to GRANT nor can I CREATE USER, so this is pretty fundamental to installation I think. Hmm
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on February 25, 2013, 12:59:08 AM
I was being silly. I don't know mySQL, but in MS you can leave the rest of the world into the role of [public] and just grant them viewing access that way. You'd only need another user if you wanted somebody else to be able to make some types of changes or view different data (say, pre-approved commenters).

There must be some "sysadmin" right/username that's default in there; it looks like you need to log in as the user 'root' to grant/create/etc.

ETA - in MS, the 'sa' account is by default turned off (nowadays). You should do that after granting yourself deity rights, to make it harder for somebody to misuse what you create.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 25, 2013, 09:48:45 AM
:hmm:

You'd think this would be documented somewhere.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 25, 2013, 10:09:21 AM
*clueless*
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 25, 2013, 11:49:40 AM
I have some ideas. I will try to run the client as either root or the builtin mysql user.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2013, 02:12:21 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about, but this still sounds exactly like 75% of the computer problems I have.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on February 25, 2013, 11:03:12 PM
Unfortunately, I have absolutely zero MySQL experience, so I'm not even clear on how this is supposed to work.   :uncertain:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on February 26, 2013, 02:01:40 AM
Shoot Boy Monkey an email. He will likely know.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 26, 2013, 05:39:30 PM
ERMAHGERD CONFERHRSING

I want to migrate teh w1f3's website to a wordpress platform. our webhost supports all this, yay. So I just want to get wordpress up and running on my own computer so I can figure out how this shit works before moving to the public server, y'know? WELL. The instructions and readmes and howtos are fuuuuuucking incomprehensible. I've got MySQL installed, at the risk of letting Anacle know my email address :nonplused: I've got PHP installed, longest build I've ever run on any unix computer ever, helloooo, and yes sudo make install blablabla. And I downloaded wordpress and unpacked it, and now the instructions make no sense whatsoever. "Open wp-admin/install.php in your web browser." OK, I do this, and the browser goes into either "Save file?" or endless window popups, like an old pr0n site. HELPFUL. ok, kill -9, find some other directions: "First, create a MySQL database" ok, fine, "Have it belong to a user who has access blabla" ok, fine, BACK UP, create a new user, proceed, oh wait, doesn't work because the PATHs aren't set and how the fuck do you do that in bash anyway and GRAAAAAAA HULK SMASH the end.

(http://fakeplus.com/pictures/jpg/i-know-some-of-these-words_20120529130516.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 26, 2013, 06:50:49 PM
:galm:

I will exhaust my local resources before I bug :bitzero: but I know he'll know the answer.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 01, 2013, 09:33:02 AM
I don't know if this is the right place for this, but the little annoying flashing light on my wireless HP printer finally quit flashing. I have no idea why. It's the "network light" and it's been flashing ever since I disconnected my wireless router (which got killed with a surge) a couple years ago and ran an Ethernet cable to the printer instead. It had been bugging me for a long time and I had searched for an answer on how to shut it off, but never could find an answer. Maybe my neighbor is connected to it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 01, 2013, 12:12:11 PM
It started flashing again for some reason, so yeah, right thread.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on March 01, 2013, 12:15:26 PM
 :hmm:
It's probably signaling Skynet
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on March 01, 2013, 12:44:34 PM
Turn it off, dike out one side of the diode's wires, problem solved. :innocent:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 01, 2013, 03:26:29 PM
It was checking to see if you were paying attention.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 01, 2013, 04:18:27 PM
Turn it off, dike out one side of the diode's wires, problem solved. :innocent:

With my luck, I'd damage something in the process that would cause all the lights to flash.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 01, 2013, 07:57:40 PM
 :banana:

I finally fixed it! Woohoo! This is probably the 10th time I've attempted to fix it, searching through all the google  results of other people online asking how to turn off the flashing lights, and searching through all HP's shit. I never found an answer anywhere, and nowhere in HP's documentation does it say what a flashing network light means, but I developed a suspicion that if I disabled the printer's wireless capabilities, it might quit complaining that it couldn't connect wireless, and it worked! Well, at least the light quit blinking. The printer quit working, but I quickly realized that was because the old profile was set up for wireless, even though it had been connecting via usb (I said Ethernet earlier, but I was mistaken), so anyway, I had to just add the new usb printer and delete the old one.

To disable the wireless, I had to connect to it wireless through its embedded web server, and after making the change, I can no longer connect to that. So I can imagine me a year from now getting a wireless router and trying to run the printer wireless again, and forgetting that I've made the change and not being able to figure out why I can't make it work, but for the moment, I'm happy anyway  :D
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 01, 2013, 08:37:29 PM
:clap:

Also: gods, computers suck
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 02, 2013, 02:14:40 PM
Again, not consumer-ready.  Just not.  But you can't comparison-shop on those grounds, and reviewers are usually experts who don't have the average consumer's same issues.

Consumer Reports used to fill that gap somewhat, but they got kind of stupid.


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I can imagine me a year from now getting a wireless router and trying to run the printer wireless again, and forgetting that I've made the change and not being able to figure out why I can't make it work

This is exactly what happens to me over and over again.  In theory, I'm smart enough to keep an exact record of WTF happened and HTF I fixed it, and then keep that record somewhere handy.  In practice, by the time I fix the damn thing, I can't bear to deal with that crap even a second longer.  So when I do try to reconfigure my effing router, I no longer remember what any of the settings do, etc.

Surely the computer could remember, but I guess that would be a security issue.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 13, 2013, 07:23:53 PM
I... think... my... modem... is... dyyyyyiiiiiiiinnnnnngggggg.....
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 14, 2013, 04:09:35 PM
And it did. Speed had slowed to a crawl the past few days, and I finally resorted to calling Comcrap. They sent a "refresh signal" and it died shortly thereafter.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 14, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
And it did. Speed had slowed to a crawl the past few days, and I finally resorted to calling Comcrap. They sent a "refresh signal" and it died shortly thereafter.

It always amazes me when people take to the Internet to explain how they can't access the Internet any more. I always feel like I'm missing something ... something important.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 14, 2013, 08:17:45 PM
 :lol:

I had to drive out to the "local" (20 miles) Comcrap facility and pick up another modem. I had originally placed a service call where they would have brought one out here to me, but that's when it was just running slow. After it totally died, it became worth the trip out there. They're still coming out tomorrow. I thought I'd see if the modem the bring is any better than the one I have now.

Also, in the process of moving stuff around here, I found that my Mini has cracked my desk. The little bastard gets so hot, it has cracked the wood.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 14, 2013, 10:30:25 PM
Whoa.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 15, 2013, 01:49:14 PM
...The little bastard gets so hot, it has cracked the wood.

FSTOOCOTD
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on March 16, 2013, 01:15:57 AM
Also, in the process of moving stuff around here, I found that my Mini has cracked my desk. The little bastard gets so hot, it has cracked the wood.

 :shock:



I had to drive out to the "local" (20 miles) Comcrap facility and pick up another modem. I had originally placed a service call where they would have brought one out here to me, but that's when it was just running slow. After it totally died, it became worth the trip out there. They're still coming out tomorrow. I thought I'd see if the modem the bring is any better than the one I have now.


Geez, Comcast mailed our new modem and TV remotes to us... maybe it was because Steve talked them into transferring him to the "Customer Loyalty" department, because he was threatening to drop the service entirely?  :confused:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 16, 2013, 09:28:26 AM
I was really shocked by the crack. It's a nice desk - all real wood, and that's the only crack in it. I've since moved the Mini - I have it sitting on a pedestal type thingee. It will probably breath better like this anyway.

I'm sure Comcrap would have shipped me a modem, but I'm too impatient for that. The cable guy brought a pretty decent one yesterday, or at least it has prettier lights  :P

He also ended up running new cable from the street to my house, which I'm hoping will improve my TV reception and prevent video freezes and skipping audio. My internet speed increased about 1 Mbps to 25 after he replaced the line. My speed had dropped as low as 2Mbps over the past few days, and that felt like I was back on dial-up.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 16, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
 :stbm:

As I was taking TFJ's music test, I noticed I was getting a hum/buzz/distortion through my speakers. I've had a short in one of the wires forever, so I thought that's what it was, but after much experimentation and replacing the speaker set with the one from my Windows machine, I've come to realize that it's the local AM radio bleeding in again  :cry:

There's a tower about a half mile from here, and it's given me trouble in the past. Sometimes, most of the time really, it bleeds through the land line, so when I'm on the phone, me and the person I'm talking to can hear Mexican radio. It's also the reason I can't get by with DSL - the interference plays havoc with the connection.

I don't know if it's due to the new modem, or the new line and type of connectors used. If I disconnect the modem, the interference stops, so it's definitely coming through that line, but it doesn't pinpoint the leak.

 It's a real pain to deal with though, because Comcrap will probably be like AT&T was about it - they'll want to point the finger at the radio station, and there's not really a damn thing I can do about that.

Fuckity fuck fuck fuck.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on March 16, 2013, 01:35:35 PM
ERMAHGERD CONFERHRSING

I want to migrate teh w1f3's website to a wordpress platform. our webhost supports all this, yay. So I just want to get wordpress up and running on my own computer so I can figure out how this shit works before moving to the public server,

I've been working with Wordpress a bunch lately. (sry just now saw this *hmof). Does your host allow you to set up subdomains? (If not, fire them!). I'd install a password protected development Wordpress site on a subdomain and work from there.

If you are really wanting a local development environment (and you are on a mac) you should use MAMP. However, using a development wes bite is probably the easiest thing to do, and might be a good SOP anyway.

I'd be happy to help you mang.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 16, 2013, 07:06:24 PM
Cool thanks! Teh w1f3's webhost is supposedly fully set up for Wrodpress, but I wanted to do some messing around at home before going onto the net. Mostly because it's an RFPITA to upload to (but once that's done everything else seems bulletproof). I guess that is the simplest thing to do. I just don't understand why it's not simple to get a MySQL server running on my computer. Grr.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on March 16, 2013, 07:15:10 PM
I've had much success with MAMP.

Clkik hyar mangy (http://www.mamp.info/en/index.html)

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on March 17, 2013, 07:19:32 PM

 It's a real pain to deal with though, because Comcrap will probably be like AT&T was about it - they'll want to point the finger at the radio station, and there's not really a damn thing I can do about that.

Fuckity fuck fuck fuck.


Circular file? (http://www.fcc.gov/complaints)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 17, 2013, 08:29:16 PM
Heh. I have that bookmark sitting on my desktop, just in case.

I placed the service call today though, and that part went well. I've been very fortunate that everyone I have dealt with so far has been nice, helpful, and has good attitudes.

*knock on wood*
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on March 18, 2013, 04:14:36 PM
*knock on wood*

Try not to crack it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 18, 2013, 07:44:52 PM
*knock on wood*

Try not to crack it.

:galm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on March 19, 2013, 01:33:59 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 19, 2013, 11:52:07 AM
 :P

So, cable guy came and things went much better than expected. It appears the modem was fuxored. In addition to the noise now being gone, my speed is now up to like 35Mbps (up 10Mbps), and they gave me free HBO, Showtime and Starz(?) since they had to come back within 30 days.

 :D
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on March 19, 2013, 03:40:56 PM
Just how many times have they given you free channels due to their messes?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on March 19, 2013, 03:47:36 PM
 :detta: :detta: :detta:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 19, 2013, 03:51:20 PM
Just how many times have they given you free channels due to their messes?

This is only the second time. However, years ago, I had all the pay channels for free for no real reason, maybe a mistake. That went on for years, and really hurt when I finally got cut off.

The last time, I only got HBO. I don't know why they gave the other two this time. It's more than just the three channels too - there are several versions of HBO, several Showtimes, etc., so it's probably more like 15 channels. Then there's the OnDemand for all those channels, which is really the best part. I'm hoping I'll be able to catch all of the second season of Game of Thrones. I saw the first season the last time I had free HBO.

I guess the lesson to learn here is to place a service call if you can find the grounds for it. There's a good chance they may mess up.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 19, 2013, 05:58:35 PM
The Comcrap bastards never did that for me.  They just blamed their provisioning issue at the head end on our Tivo box.  11 visits and a vendor meet with Tivo and a Services VIP and yep it was a provisioning issue at their head end like my wife told them in the first visit.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 19, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
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provisioning issue at the head end

They gave you head? I'd rather have HBO.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 19, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
Nope, the head end is the big switching station where all the satellite feeds come together and are provisioned out to the boxes.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 19, 2013, 07:29:38 PM
So how is that not HBO's fault?

You must not know how to bitch properly  :diabolical:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 19, 2013, 10:54:09 PM
So how is that not HBO's fault?

You must not know how to bitch properly  :diabolical:

My wife was probably too over the top.  They probably took care of you because you were nice.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on March 20, 2013, 03:45:52 AM
-there are several versions of HBO, several Showtimes, etc., so it's probably more like 15 channels. Then there's the OnDemand for all those channels, which is really the best part. I'm hoping I'll be able to catch all of the second season of Game of Thrones. I saw the first season the last time I had free HBO.

I know, isn't that cool? There's more stuff on there than I could ever watch -- which is why I dropped Netflix for the time being.


So how is that not HBO's fault?

You must not know how to bitch properly  :diabolical:

My wife was probably too over the top.  They probably took care of you because you were nice.

 :lol:

How recently did you deal with Comcast? My theory is that the recession is finally catching up with Comcast -- only a couple of years ago they were stubbornly resisting any attempts to give free services or incentive pricing, but anecdotally since the beginning of this year I have heard from several people that they have asked for, or been offered, special loyalty discounts or free upgrades. Mostly to keep them from canceling service altogether.

People are continuing to tighten their belts (despite the supposed economic recovery we're experiencing  :eyeroll: ) -- I think cable/phone/internet is one of those buffer items in people's budgets that they keep until they've cut back every other possible non-essential expense. Now people are looking at how much they're paying for Comcast and saying "WTF?", and scaling back or canceling service  in numbers that are now too large for Comcast to ignore.

Or it might depend on what part of the country that you live in. Maybe people living in areas with high cancelation rates (i.e., economically distressed) are being targeted for special deals. :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 20, 2013, 08:44:45 AM
So how is that not HBO's fault?

You must not know how to bitch properly  :diabolical:

My wife was probably too over the top.  They probably took care of you because you were nice.

That may be. I never played the demanding, irate customer.

When the guy first arrived, he was within 5 minutes of being late, which would have made me eligible for the freebies, and I said, "Damn, you got here just in time, I was looking forward to some free HBO." He then mumbled something about me possibly still being eligible, but he was so grouchy-acting, I let it drop at that time.

As he was testing the modem, another assignment came in on his little smart phone like device, which must have been like the straw on the camel's back, and he started bitching about his job and his boss's expectations. I sympathized with him, but made a comment about being unemployed.

After he fixed the modem, I asked him again about the free service, and that's when he told me about the 30 day thing. He said it would show up on his device when he closed the call.

Then he wanted to check the signal on my converter, and I asked him if he had any converters with him that were newer than mine (because mine looks like it was pulled out of a dumpster), and he said they were hard to come by, since they were so busy lately, and I said most people I knew were dropping cable and getting Netflix because cable was too expensive, and that if I didn't find a job soon, I would have to drop it.

I then went off to the kitchen while he was testing the converter, I heard him talking to someone on the phone, and when I came back in the room, I had the free stuff. He said, "They gave you 3 channels...", so I don't know who made the decision. I assume the person he called had the authority, and he put in a good word for me :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 20, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
Incidentally, I have to say that Hotmail has followed a downward trend ever since Microsoft bought it.  I know, it's surprising that anyone's even still using it, but I use it for shopping links and crap like that.  And it's the oldest email account I've had continuously. 

It's often surprisingly shitty.  Like how you can't log in without typing @hotmail.com at the end.  Which is so deeply stupid that it surprises me over and over again.

It just 'upgraded' to the online version of Outlook, and it's SO AWFUL that I am astounded by its terribleness all over again.  Seriously, it's fucking awful.  It's pathetically bad.  It's breathtakingly ugly, doesn't scale properly, is painfully clunky, and -- best of all -- absolutely not usercentric.  Monumentally so.  I've never seen an email program whose main page displayed so little of the information it's allegedly trying to route to the user.  Phenomenal failure.

And this despite the fact that they reduced the size of the ad space.  I'm not even sure how they managed it.

The giant 1990-looking scroll bars are an interesting touch, though.  And the 'context-sensitive' buttons that only appear when you can use them are a great way to jump on an idiot bandwagon that's headed straight to hell.

Utter crap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 21, 2013, 08:02:31 AM
I love how they rolled it out - they ask if you would like to try it, and when you say no, they make you use it.

I was surprised it even worked when I last visited. I was afraid it was going to make me download Silverlight or something.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on March 22, 2013, 01:42:18 PM
Unbelievable cockamamie horseshit. Just got off the phone with Comcast; we're cutting our television service down to the minimum and moving most of our TV viewing to Hulu/Netflix. After the usual shpiel from them about how it'll severely limit our available channels (no shit?), we get down to brass tacks and I ask how much it'll cost per month. I asked her to run through all of the items, and she lists a "Service protection plan".

She says it's "one of our most valuable services". She also tells me it's $3.95 a month, then tells me what it does: it protects us from any service interruptions that are caused by the wiring in our house or on our property that aren't part of Comcast's system (since they'll naturally fix their own stuff). That's something that'll usually cost us $40 for the service call. Fancy, isn't it?

So I asked, when did this start? Since I don't remember asking for something like that. So she looks it up and finds out that it started on 3/11/11, as part of a re-packaging of our services (which I did authorize at the time). So I went and did some math, and found that we'd spent over $90 in the last 2 years on this. Then I asked her how often we'd used it, and she says just once. So paying $90+ saved us $40?

I'm not that good at math; but by my calculation, isn't $90 more money than $40? Then it occurred to me. When she says it's their "most valuable service", she didn't say to whom.

Hells yes I cut that bullshit off.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on March 22, 2013, 03:40:51 PM
Well, it wasn't a lie.

I picked up a new car power adapter for the cell phones the other day (the old one had gotten loose, and my attempt at tweaking it broke the metal). The clerk, while looking up at a camera, asked if I'd like to buy a protection plan on that piece of equipment.

What's next - a protection plan on milk? Oh, wait, we have that already.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 23, 2013, 10:53:51 AM
Quote
Hells yes I cut that bullshit off.

:lol:

Damn straight.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on March 23, 2013, 06:53:58 PM
Nice.  :lol:  :detta:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 24, 2013, 12:03:19 PM
I just noticed that logging in to Hotmail (and then just logging out without even checking any mail or anything) creates 36 cookies  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on March 24, 2013, 02:45:24 PM
Oy.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on April 01, 2013, 01:33:46 AM
I was really shocked by the crack. It's a nice desk - all real wood, and that's the only crack in it. I've since moved the Mini - I have it sitting on a pedestal type thingee. It will probably breath better like this anyway.


What did you use for a pedestal? I'm thinking I may need to fashion one for the MacMini I'm giving to Steve.   :hmm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 01, 2013, 09:20:28 AM

(http://i.imgur.com/h60G1Np.jpg)
(note the crack in foreground)

I had this wooden pedestal thing that I had made a long time ago, and it fits just inside the vents. I'm not crazy about the set up, but it looks okay and it works.

I had looked in a couple places for a black mesh (http://www.bizrice.com/products/Black-Silver-Metal-Mesh-Pen-Holder.html) tray, but I never found anything the right size. And that stuff is expensive. A standard (not the nice mesh) in/out tray (http://www.etsy.com/listing/127432593/vintage-office-desk-tray-in-out-wire) is like $5. That's what I was leaning towards when I found this wooden thing.

My advice it to look around the house - you might already have something.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 01, 2013, 12:44:15 PM
Phone book.  If you're sure it won't catch fire.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on April 01, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
I was thinking something like a black mesh tray too, but I do like your set up.  :detta:

On the other hand, I'm doing some spring cleaning and finding all kinds of weird shit, I might just come up with the "right" components.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 01, 2013, 03:38:21 PM
Phone book.  If you're sure it won't catch fire.

I wouldn't be too sure. Anyway, I was also trying to give the mini a little more air to run cooler.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on April 01, 2013, 04:10:08 PM
legoTM bricks
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 01, 2013, 05:03:09 PM
legoTM bricks

Yeah, I, um, improvised little feet for mine. I think I used those stick-on rubber blocks. Which is hardly improvising because this is what they are for but still I felt pretty diy-genius at that point. Lego would have been better.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 01, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
My laptops aren't too bad, temperature-wise, but my old ThinkPad was much more of a crotchburner.  When I had it on my desk in Nebraska, I used to have one of those Miracle Defroster plates under it.  Those are just aluminum plates on little feet, but they really do conduct a motherload of heat.  Basically a big external heatsink for the machine -- would've been even better with little fins underneath and a fan blowing across the bottom.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on April 01, 2013, 06:18:33 PM
i have something like this under my laptop. woot had them one time for $5. i think i bought 3.

http://www.amazon.com/Laptop-Notebook-Cool-Pad-Fans/dp/B001B077PO

it plugs into a usb socket.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on April 01, 2013, 08:06:01 PM
That's groovy!  :detta:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2013, 03:10:11 PM
SO anyway I was complaining about DVI bullshit.

This morning, my widescreen monitor at home, the one I use for TV and movies, was dead.  Investigation revealed that VGA input doesn't work, but that's as far as I could test.  It also has HDMI and DVI input.

Well.  Great!  Since I have the VGA-to-DVI adaptor.  But no!  Because it's a different kind of DVI, and the plug doesn't fit.

Internetting after I got to work ( :eyeroll: ) reveals that there are many kinds of DVI, and the hardware is sometimes but not always compatible.  Because fuck you, that's why.  It wouldn't really be a hardware standard if it was standard.

So I now have two DVI video cards and one DVI monitor . . . and not one of them is usable with any other piece of hardware I own.  Brilliant.  Also, apparently the monitor has a DVI-D connection, and the internet tells me that VGA-to-DVI does not work with DVI-D.  Of course.  It turns out you can get a VGA-to-HDMI cable, though, which is good since my ThinkPads only have VGA output.

At this point, I say fuck DVI and everyone who created it with a serrated suppository the size of a Buick.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 16, 2013, 03:25:39 PM
Ugh.  Worse.  Apparently I'd need to spend $45 on a USB adaptor that does VGA to DVI or HDMI, except it would need a USB 2 slot (which I don't have), and even then it might of course turn out that the monitor is dead.

It makes more sense to use a whole new PC, plus I might need a new monitor, which (A) isn't going to happen soon, (B) would make the $45 adaptor pointless, and (C) doesn't make sense when I can't even use Netflix right now anyway.

I swear, the Chinese will be building McDonald's franchises on Mars before we get simple A/V shit worked out in a sane way.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 16, 2013, 05:12:30 PM
I had a monitor I was certain was dead, but it mysteriously came back to life. I had given up on it and hadn't used it in months, then one day I really needed a second monitor and tried it again out of desperation and it worked. I still don't know what happened.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on June 16, 2013, 07:24:33 PM
I swear, the Chinese will be building McDonald's franchises on Mars before we get simple A/V shit worked out in a sane way.

Well, yeah, because communism. But the McDonalds won't sell air replenishments, and half of them will collapse due to shoddy seals on the airlocks or some such.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 18, 2013, 02:26:46 PM
It's sad all-around.



Quote
I had a monitor I was certain was dead, but it mysteriously came back to life.

Spooooky.  Because I forgot that monitor was dead and turned it on last night, and it briefly started working again. 

I fucked around with it extensively, plus I'd borrowed a monitor from work, and . . . it turns out it's not the monitor.  The VGA out on my ThinkPad is fucked.  The reason I thought it was the monitor and not the ThinkPad is that I'd plugged the monitor into the other ThinkPad and still couldn't get a signal, even with a new VGA cable.

Turns out the VGA out is fucked on BOTH ThinkPads.  :eyeroll:  Apparently it has an expiration date.  Looks like I could order a USB-to-VGA adaptor for like $50, but (A) my ancient machine might not be able to make it go, and (B) again, it's money probably better hoarded for a new machine at some point.  I actually have a newer desktop machine I could use for TV and movies and such, but it needs a new network card . . . which I can get for less than $50.

I'm still feeling the hate for DVI, though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 20, 2013, 02:50:47 PM
Gmail, why do you often have attached photos rightside-up in the thumbnails but then turn them 90 degrees when I open them?

Also, why is your attachment-opening feature such complete amateurish bullshit in general?  Seriously, probably the worst of any email program I've ever used, and I've been using email since the 80s.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 20, 2013, 03:45:55 PM
Gmail, why do you often have attached photos rightside-up in the thumbnails but then turn them 90 degrees when I open them?

(http://i.imgur.com/IJ7zOYI.gif)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on June 20, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
Oh, what an opportunity! Someone shoulda shopped it going all the way around.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 04, 2013, 11:39:21 AM
Dear Browser Idiots:

If you have a mouse-key combo that automatically opens a link in a new tab, and I use it, but the link I click on says to open in a new window -- or vice-versa -- DO WHAT I FUCKING SAY, NOT WHAT THE LINK SAYS.

If you want to make a browser for web designers, fine, call it Fuck The Fucking User, and let the other 98% of us go through life without your stupid obnoxious dog-molesting interference.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 10, 2013, 01:24:16 PM
Why are the USB ports upside down on so many PCs?

Seriously, this has bugged me for years.  Seems like half of them are upside down.  Bad enough the stupid standard didn't, you know, come up with a connector that would make it immediately obvious if it were right-side up.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 10, 2013, 02:54:57 PM
Plugging in a USB cable falls squarely into what I consider to be the "50-50-90" scenario.

You have a 50-50 chance of picking the right way, but 90% of the time you'll pick the wrong one first.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 10, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
:rollin:

So true. And usually it's because you had it right the first time but you were a half millimeter off, so you flip it over and try again ...

I'm not gonna say it's the worst connector ever. For that one I'mma go with the old vampire tap connector for thick Ethernet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_tap). That was a truly special interface. But USB is pretty effin' close.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 10, 2013, 04:23:29 PM
PLUS, I don't have anything with USB 2.  In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a USB 2 port.  I constantly see things that are billed as being blazingly fast with USB 2, but that don't say if they work with USB.  Hey, Newegg, I'm not going to email you to ask if it's compatible.  I'm just not going to buy it.


As an aside . . . how the fuck can the History in IE be so half-assed?  It's more like quarter-assed.  Why are we still below Netscape's level of functionality when it comes to bookmarks and history with most modern browsers?  Just give me a page with a list of the fucking history.  It is honestly beyond me how any moron could have looked at a system where URLs are 'displayed' in a narrow column on the edge of the screen and thought, Yeah, that's good -- now let's just hide the path to even find this thing!

Meanwhile . . . .

Chrome, when I'm in Incognito Mode, why do you remember my login at Gmail and Facebook from last time?  And why do you, by default, select the keep-me-logged-in option in Gmail?  OBVIOUSLY that is not wanted, or I wouldn't be in Incognito Mode.

I mean . . . FFS.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 10, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
You mean USB 3? The ports all look the same. The connectors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Connectors) are even interchangeable. To tell if your old PC has USB 2, here's instructions from apple (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1174), just because I thought it was bizarre that Bing offered up an apple support page.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 10, 2013, 11:18:23 PM
Nice!  I think they're already working on USB4.  I think I saw something in our IP pipeline about that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 11, 2013, 01:24:55 PM
I didn't know there was a USB 3.  With Windows, when I plug in a USB device, half the time (randomly, so it seems) Windows pops up one of its trademark non-pop-ups from the quasimodo Taskbar that says "This device can perform faster!"  It urges me to try a USB 2 and offers to look for a port.

Naturally, this will never time out, and naturally it does not respond to keyboard input, since MS hates us, so you fucking HAVE to click on it.  If you let it search for ports, gee whiz, the computer has the same ports it had yesterday.  Go fucking figure.  And I've never used a computer with a USB 2, so it's always just a pointless annoyance.

Like much of Windows.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on July 11, 2013, 01:31:55 PM
I wish the ports were labeled. They never are, not in the displays on the screen nor on the physical ports.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 11, 2013, 02:04:57 PM
Not to mention that often they're in the least convenient possible place and/or too close together.  I love having two ports that you can only use one of because they're too close together.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 11, 2013, 07:36:26 PM
There's more than one type of USB now?  :banghead:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 12, 2013, 05:18:50 AM
USB 2 was introduced in 2001  :innocent:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 12, 2013, 12:30:27 PM
Bah, the intro date doesn't mean anything.  Mostly what matters is when it became more common on new machines than the previous standard.

The cheapass refurbished PCs Newegg sends me ads about don't have USB 2, although they have machines for $500 that have USB 2 and USB 3.  (Why both?  I probably don't want to know.)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 12, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
What the hell is difference between them? :redface:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 12, 2013, 05:26:27 PM
Speed, mostly, I think.  USB 2 is allegedly much, much faster than USB.


If it's also actually hot-swappable, that would be wonderful.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 12, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
Speed, mostly, I think.  USB 2 is allegedly much, much faster than USB.

 :innocent:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 13, 2013, 01:37:19 AM
Well, my new Apple USB SuperDrive must be USB1, because it is fucking slooooow.  :harumph:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 13, 2013, 02:09:45 AM
(http://screamer.alt-world.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/LoinO2.jpg)

apple's answer
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 13, 2013, 10:01:34 AM
They call you a ho?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 13, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
OSX Lion-O?  ;)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 13, 2013, 01:42:22 PM
thunderbolt

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 13, 2013, 02:01:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uUlhkBW.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 13, 2013, 02:02:13 PM
Sorry... I'm just trolling at this point.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 13, 2013, 10:58:19 PM
 :rollin:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Hedaira on July 14, 2013, 10:13:16 PM
 :hisey:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 17, 2013, 06:50:40 PM
I may have complained about this before, but: 

If you design a browser so that the Stop Loading button and the Start Loading All Over Again button ARE THE SAME BUTTON, you are wildly subhuman.

Seriously.  Chrome is the current offender that's annoying me, but COME ON.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 21, 2013, 01:12:59 PM
Speaking of . . . Chrome updated itself on the upstairs machine at work, and it is now almost complete crap. 

Frequent graphics errors where the page being rendered partly vanishes to be replaced with whatever's underneath Chrome.  Random switching between tabs, which is awfully annoying -- you'll be reading a page or typing something, and it'll switch to another tab for no apparent reason.  And nothing loads in the background.  If a tab isn't in the foreground, it can sit forever without making any progress loading a page.

Plus, the damn thing just crashes entirely, no error message, maybe once an hour.

THANKS FOR NOTHING.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 22, 2013, 02:15:44 AM
Fuck that.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 22, 2013, 11:04:46 AM
Seriously, Google has GOT to stop 'improving' things.  The basic Google search is so bad now that it makes me seriously ache for a real competitor.

Bing, no, is not it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 22, 2013, 12:28:28 PM
I've been using this (http://duckduckgo.com) again lately.  Some rumors were going around last year that they depended heavily on Bing for their results, but I've been satisfied in my research that that is not the case, so I'm kicking the tires on it again.  So far, so good.

Bonus: The Android app is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 22, 2013, 02:15:18 PM
I use all three, from time to time. When I come upon a troublesome search term, I'll try all three, and sometimes the Duck will offer something the other two don't.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 23, 2013, 02:17:22 PM
Oh, also, this version of Chrome periodically runs the floppy and CD drive.  This is apparently a bug in its storage management utility.  I don't know why it needs a storage management utility that periodically scans the entire machine looking for how much storage is available.  It really, really shouldn't.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 23, 2013, 02:23:36 PM
so, i bought some new rendering software. it crashes constantly on my mac. it is totally unusable. it works fine on my pc, so it's really pissing me off. i've posted in the forum and tried to contact the author. he's in poland so it's almost impossible. this is one of those times you'd like to be able to reach through a computer screen and throttle somebody.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 23, 2013, 02:32:38 PM
There'll be an app for that.  Eventually.  And it will make someone a billionaire.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 16, 2013, 10:44:54 AM
God, the new Gmail pop-out Reply function is such utter shit that it makes me wish I could always use the Basic HTML version, which is a thousand times better.

Why is Google so obsessed with making all their services worse all the time?  Do they offer pay versions that don't have all this broken crap, and I've just never noticed?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 16, 2013, 01:18:21 PM
Concur
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
Our new front-desk computer is basically working now.  But it's Windows 7.  EVERYONE HATES IT SO MUCH.  :lol:

Seriously, it's fucking terrible.  Never have I seen such a WTF failure of a GUI.  We've had it running for two days now, and I think we've spent a cumulative 56 hours fiddling with the settings.  This despite the fact that three of my clerks are more used to Windows 7 than any other edition.

It's the Comic Sans all-caps bad-spelling no-punctuation ESL Youtube comment of windowing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 21, 2013, 01:51:09 PM
Wow. Wait til you see Windows 8 then. Because you're going to need to invent some new superlatives. Er. Inferlatives?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2013, 04:34:33 PM
It is my intention not to see Windows 8.

I will say that Windows 7 mostly fixes the user account issues that XP has, such as letting you just enter the administrator password to do administrator things instead of having to switch accounts.  However, they completely broke the switching-accounts thing itself, which went from 'Windows Key-L and select the account you want' to 'Good Luck With That'. 

Also, this machine is roughly 6x faster than our old one, but logging into a user account now takes   literally over 25 times as long.  WTF.  I don't know what is happening, but it can't be necessary.


I installed Opera, and, uh, it's Opera 15, which now uses the Chrome rendering engine.  And it is fucking awful, although I don't know that you can blame that on the Chrome bits, because the user interface has been changed to be (A) horrendous and (B) dumbed down to the point where it's not suitable for the smarter reptile species. 

Almost all customization options and preferences of any significance are gone.  The UI is ugly, dysfunctional, and mostly fixed.  They tried to turn Opera into Chrome, which is dumb because, you know, Chrome is already Chrome, and Opera was something else.  It's kind of like coming out with a new Corvette that copies a Greyhound bus's design.

Took me less than three minutes to give up on it and find a downloadable install of Opera 11.  Which, itself, is a big step back from Opera 8 or 9, in terms of usability, but it's stable and fast and good enough.

If you're bored and want to see fan butthurt, just google "Opera 15 terrible".  I'm cynical enough by now that I just :lol: at it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on August 21, 2013, 06:45:04 PM
(http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/startupshutdown/splash/winme.png)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2013, 06:49:09 PM
I considered it briefly, but Newegg didn't seem to have any refurbished machines with ME, and no one who works here has ever used it, so . . . .

I can't get over how bad a lot of the system fonts in Win7 are, though.  We changed the default screen resolution (800x600?  Really?) and then had to reduce the font size, but a bunch of system fonts come up at weird sizes and are just either butt-ugly or rendered wrong.  File Explorer (or whatever they call it here) is especially awful.  So strange.

So many of the icons don't scale well anymore, either.  If they're not huge, they're blobby messes.  It's so peculiar.  MS can't have thought people would only use Win7 at low resolutions, etc.  I mean . . . mobile uses, presentations, whatever.  But come on.  It's supposed to be a computer operating system.  Try harder.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on August 21, 2013, 06:52:21 PM
um, that was a joke.

windowsME is the worst piece of software MS has ever put out, and that's saying A LOT.


Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 21, 2013, 09:12:15 PM
Wow. Wait til you see Windows 8 then. Because you're going to need to invent some new superlatives. Er. Inferlatives?

OMG, when random axe first sees Windows 8, he's going to bluescreen.  Like, his brain.  For real.

(http://guildhaven.org/images/bluescreen.gif)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 21, 2013, 11:45:26 PM
"Microsoft Bob For PC A Variant of Windows 95 for the ultimate in shenanigans!" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Bob-For-PC-A-Variant-of-Windows-95-for-the-ultimate-in-shenanigans-/221223332988?pt=US_Operating_Systems_Software&hash=item3381f02c7c)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2013, 01:20:39 PM
Trying to get either of two printers to work with the new machine.  They're both made to connect by USB, and Win7 won't detect or recognize either of them.

Went online and found . . . many people have all kinds of problems using USB devices with Windows 7.

:stbm: :eyeroll:


WTF, Microsoft.  Seriously.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2013, 03:22:44 PM
Been through about 240 pages of online suggestions, run the hilariously awful Windows 7 Fix It app (seriously, hilariously, tragically WTF awful), edited the Registry, logged in and out and switched users and restarted the machine many times.  Tried both a Brother and an HP printer.

Stupid Win7 simply will not acknowledge the presence of a printer connected by USB.  :shrug:  The same ports work fine with other USB devices.  (Well, except for how long it takes Windows to make the device available -- it always claims it's installing a driver, even for a flash drive.)  The same cable works with other devices.  It just doesn't even notice when you plug in a printer.

Fucking fuck hell.  I think I have to find a printer with a serial cable connector.  :nonplused:

Also annoying, but not MS's fault:  The new machine is a Lenovo (IBM), and it has like seven regular USB ports and one USB 2.  Can't tell by looking which one is the USB 2.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 24, 2013, 03:41:57 PM
THAT IS INSANE WTF
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2013, 03:44:15 PM
Seriously, I have worn enamel off my teeth while fucking with it, too.  And googling it turns up people with the same problem, or similar issues, from 2009 right on up to the present.  Occasionally you find MS people making suggestions, but there don't seem to be any clear fixes.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2013, 03:50:19 PM
OH.  Speaking of 'not MS's fault' . . . went to Brother's website, just in case they had any ideas, and to get support you have to search by model.

The one we have is an MFC-250c (https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=brother+mfc-250c&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest). 

The Brother website insists there is no such model.  THANKS.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 24, 2013, 04:07:11 PM
Oy.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2013, 05:13:38 PM
I got the HP printer working!


Naturally, I have NO idea how I did it.  :lol: 

Just so long as it keeps working . . . .

Incidentally, although they finally got the permissions thing right, MS made it SO much more cumbersome to change user accounts in Win 7.  Seriously.  Seriously.  You guys, seriously.

I stopped bothering using my separate user account.  It's easier to not have stuff set up the way I prefer and not to leave applications running than to keep climbing through the Start menu and waiting and waiting and waiting for it to switch users.  Plus, we have it set to hibernate, by default, when you turn it off, and if the mouse pointer is just slightly in the wrong place when you go to switch users, you send the machine into hibernation instead, which you can't interrupt.

Also discovered by accident that if you're logged into our Admin account when the machine hibernates, it'll log itself right back in when it wakes up.  Secure password?  What secure password?

FFS.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2013, 05:15:13 PM
OH and, also, the new UI for Wordpad . . . the [ugh] 'Ribbon' interface . . . is so bad, so broken, so ugly, and so deficient that it's just not worth using.

We already installed the old MS Paint because, yet again, they made Paint much worse when they updated it.  I can see I might as well go ahead and install the XP versions of a lot of basic Windows apps.  Because fucking hell no.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 24, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
yeah good luck with that
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 24, 2013, 08:04:14 PM
(http://guildhaven.org/images/calc_ribbon.jpg)

:bolt:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 24, 2013, 08:08:08 PM
WTF
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on August 24, 2013, 08:26:29 PM
The Ribbon of Doom compels you!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 24, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
You have to be fu... ok there are some epic trolls at Microsoft. I have to respect that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 26, 2013, 06:14:59 PM
FUUUUUCK.

However, the old version of Paint worked fine once I renamed it Paint.exe.  Now I wish I still had a Win3 version that still worked right and ran instantly.

This is making me wonder what else can actually be ported over.  I suppose you probably can't run the XP Windows Explorer, but maybe File Explorer?  The new File Explorer gives you the option to select files by checkbox -- haven't tested it yet, but finally the feature they should have had since Windows 2.  You know, since so many free DOS file managers had it. 

Every fucking version of Windows, you can't select a bunch of files and then do anything with any of them without losing your selection.  Always have to have two Explorer windows open.  Windows isn't even smart enough to have an option where you ask it to remember what you have selected.  Nope.  Designed by people who apparently don't use computers.

BUT ANYWAY
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 26, 2013, 07:17:41 PM
You're probably going to wind up hating this, Axey, but I've had really great luck with this little gem on Windows: Explorer++ (http://explorerplusplus.com/)

It has a tabbed interface, lots of options for those who are picky, and it's not made by Microsoft.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 27, 2013, 01:13:44 PM
It looks OK if you don't have to have a preview view.  When I'm doing file operations, I rarely want to see previews -- I generally open another app when I want to look at the file contents as opposed to looking at groups of files.

Screenshots make it look fine, though.  I'll probably give it a try.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 27, 2013, 06:34:59 PM
SO.  Continuing to fuck around with the printers . . . but this is more amusing, I think:

The HP inkjet printer that I finally got working with Win7, well, it would no longer scan or photocopy.  The buttons simply no longer have any effect.  :confused:  Can't really blame that on Windows, since this is stuff done through the printer itself, not through the PC.

I screwed around with it, read the manual, looked online, got sick of it.  IG sold us the printer and decided to try to fix it herself, so she called HP tech support.  These kids, they don't mind that kind of thing.  :lol:

HP tech support told her that the problem was that the printer was plugged into a power strip, and that "the ball bearing that runs the scanner" needs so much electricity that there's too much voltage drop through the power strip, so plug the printer directly into the wall socket.

(http://i.imgur.com/N9CG0oW.gif)



This is so stupid it hurt me, but . . . plugging the printer into the wall socket made the scan and photocopy functions work again.

:doh:

I googled it, and HP does in fact make this recommendation as a pretty standard piece of advice (http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=110&prodSeriesId=4322916&prodTypeId=18972&objectID=c01321436), although not always with the "ball bearing" detail. 

Meanwhile, the net is full of electricians and other experts saying it's complete bullshit.  The power strip we're using [cough cough] has no cord and no surge protector, even, and I'm sure the voltage drop is negligible. 

But it did fix the problem.

(http://i.imgur.com/SNWI0WR.gif)

FUCK IT.  Good enough.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 27, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
http://youtu.be/t7hW2mrNr_o

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 28, 2013, 01:39:44 PM
 :hmm:

I would have to try plugging it in to the power strip again, just to make sure that was the issue instead of possibly being an unplug and replug issue.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 28, 2013, 01:57:58 PM
I was trying to watch a youtube video yesterday, but I was getting no sound.

Volume on youtube was okay, not muted.

Volume on speakers was okay, and power was on.

Settings in my system preferences were correct, not muted.

I thought I must have accidentally hit some keyboard shortcut. I checked my volume, and it was turned all the way up, which was odd, so I tried to turn it down, but the slider wouldn't move.

 :hmm:

I remembered I had uploaded some photos from my phone to computer via USB earlier, and had left the USB connected to the computer after I had disconnected it from the phone. So I disconnected the USB from the computer, and voila, my sound worked again. Why a USB for a phone needs to hijack my sound system is a mystery to me. Unless it's because... It's a Sony™

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 28, 2013, 02:24:40 PM
This whole 'personal computer' thing has never gotten locked down.  There's far too much of a rush toward the newest, fastest, blingiest thing for any manufacturer (OK, except, say, NASA) to bother really getting the thing to work properly.

Every fucking time I connect a flash drive to a Windows machine and get the bastardized pop-up telling me that the device can connect faster . . . if only I'd plug it into a USB2 port . . . and, hey, Windows can look for ports for me! (and why doesn't Windows remember what ports the machine has, FFS?) . . . and, no, there isn't a USB2 port on this machine.  STOP BUGGING ME.

But there we are.  That's how it is.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 28, 2013, 08:01:51 PM
I am so thankful that I do not have these problems. Seriously. Not being snarky.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 28, 2013, 08:21:42 PM
I am so thankful that I do not have these problems. Seriously. Not being snarky.

Definitely.  Me too.  Also not being snarky.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2013, 03:45:14 PM
You can snark if you want to.  We can leave your friends behind.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 29, 2013, 07:21:11 PM
(http://clashdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Men-work.jpg)

'Cause your friends don't snark and if they don't snark
Well they're no friends of mine
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on August 29, 2013, 07:21:36 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 30, 2013, 12:44:13 AM
Why isn't that guy wearing a hat?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on September 01, 2013, 02:43:00 AM
why is cloud being forced down our throats?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 01, 2013, 12:10:47 PM
It's a buzzword, man!  It has zazz!

It's marketing, mostly.  The consumer apps all seem to be so badly engineered and overblown that I can't help but think they're probably bad ideas, in practice.  But not being Cloud is so five years ago.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 05, 2013, 11:47:08 AM
I just had to spend ten minutes figuring out how to turn the Chrome auto-updater the fuck off.  Jesus Christ.  Every time it runs, it monopolizes the machine.  And who knows WTF it's doing?  Security patches?  Maybe.  But no way, man.  Bad Citizen, there, Google.

Granted, pop-ups that tell you that you need to download an update, those are shit.  Especially fake pop-ups from the taskbar -- those things are like three steps down from message-style boxes.  They don't even usually have keyboard support, and they come up on top no matter what you were doing.  Fuck the fucking taskbar.  If you can't do UI right, at least make it unobtrusive.

Here's how it ought to work:  App has an icon.  If it's an app that runs in the background, FINE, a taskbar icon.  When an update is available and recommended, the icon changes.  THE END.  If it's somehow a critical security patch, go ahead and pop up a real message box. 

(Although, of course, do not default to the OK or Cancel button, because if it pops up while I'm typing, hitting Space or Enter should not make it vanish.  Especially since Windows is too fucking stupid to have a system log that I can easily look at to see what that pop-up was that appeared and vanished before I could even read it.)

But anyway.  I'd rather have to reinstall Chrome periodically in order to get updates, since Google can't write a manual updater, than have that garbage auto-updater running.  Fucking hell.

Also, seriously, every damned day it infuriates me all over again that Chrome's cancel button basically does nothing.  If I tell you to stop loading or rendering the page, STOP.  Chrome is not the damned user.  Some random website is not the damned user.  I am the user.  You do what I fucking say.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on September 05, 2013, 03:47:04 PM
For OSX Lion, you get this little sidebar on the upper right corner of desktop that tells you there are updates waiting for you in the App Store, for the OS and other Apple products.

I get a second sidebar from Adobe for app upgrades when those come up.

It's pretty unobtrusive. I like that I can just ignore it until I'm ready to deal with it.

I'm running Safari for browsing these days, and the main complaint I have is that it also tries to subvert/ignore your efforts to cancel a page load. The fastest thing to do is just kill the tab the non-loading page is on. :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 05, 2013, 03:53:24 PM
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It's pretty unobtrusive. I like that I can just ignore it until I'm ready to deal with it.

That is exactly how it should be.

Often I don't want to kill a page.  I just don't want it to continue loading.  Opera is (well, the older versions) pretty good about this and will often render the text while the bullshit is still loading, which means you can hit Escape and skip the bullshit.  This is especially good for pages that insist on trying to force-feed you four megabytes of crap even when JS is turned off, and for badly coded pages that freeze up if they haven't finished loading some frame that no one wants to see anyway. 

Tons of 'professional' pages nowadays outsource various elements to companies whose servers are heavily overtaxed, and damned if I'm waiting thirty seconds every time some dumb page wants to load something I don't want to see anyway.  Chrome is shitty at loading pages in the background, etc, and tends to bog, so it's especially important to have control over the process.

If they'd ever finished making Opera instead of constantly trying to bell-and-whistle it, you'd be able to have one page of tabs where JS, etc, was turned on, and another page where it was turned off, and that would be pretty great.  I know you can do crap with settings and plug-ins and zones and so on, but I honestly don't have the patience.  Not a lot of sites are worth that much midwifing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on September 05, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
That's how it works in most Linux distros I use these days too.  I update things when I want them updated, and never before.

And when they install, they do so quietly in background, never monopolizing anything, even while I'm doing other things.  And they never involve a reboot.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2013, 12:23:11 PM
Seriously.  THAT.  I remember using OS/2, and, for all its faults, it was WAY better at actual multitasking than Windows then or now.  Windows seems to still be 90% a task-switching OS.  It doesn't handle memory for shit and seems to hand CPU cycles to whatever app decides it's tremendously important.  There's a setting that allegedly lets you 'optimize' it for foreground or background apps, but I've never noticed the slightest difference.

For that matter, Windows 7 still has an aneurysm any time you try to do I/O.  What.  The.  Fuck.  Put in a CD or a flashdrive, and the OS grinds to a halt while it tries to deal with that.  Fucking bullshit.

These are things that Windows was widely critized for back in Windows 2.  TWO.  Before Program Manager, when you ran programs from a file list instead of clicking on icons.  I'm sure Microsoft will get around to fixing them someday, once it's no longer possible to continue adding ribbons and glass buttons and there are no control surfaces left to hide from the user.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on September 06, 2013, 04:25:57 PM
at least memory is cheap now.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2013, 06:36:26 PM
I know, but . . . same old story.  Our new Windows 7 machine has roughly 12 times the processing power and 8 times the memory of our old Windows XP machine, and almost everything about it is distinctly slower.

Except when the old machine was overheating like a mofo.  But that was a separate issue.  If Microsoft was in the tire business, Formula 1 cars could lose the Tour de France.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 11, 2013, 01:07:47 PM
HERE'S the thing, Windows:

Automatic updates are mostly a good idea, going on the assumption that you can usually be trusted to make changes that do not leave the user worse off than before.  Which, mostly, OK.  Although you should still have a rollback utility.

But one reason many people turn automatic updates off is that you decide, on your own, to reboot the machine.  Regardless of whether I had a bunch of programs open, or if I had work that needed to be saved.  Not that I should have left for the night without saving my work, but it happens, and usually you wouldn't let me close the program without reminding me to save.

So when I come in and find you've rebooted on your own imaginary authority, you are a war criminal.  And I turn automatic updates off.  Instead, now, you'll download them and then pester me, and generally I won't install them, out of spite, because your pestering is so ill-designed and annoying.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on October 11, 2013, 01:28:19 PM
You can roll the updates back, but of course it's not perfect. Ideally it'd create a system restore point before the updates go in.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 11, 2013, 07:32:45 PM
You can roll the updates back, but of course it's not perfect. Ideally it'd create a system restore point before the updates go in.

Windows actually does, but it's not really user accessible. 

You can uninstall updates, and it rolls system files back to what they were, but it's not something I'd recommend to someone nontechnical.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 29, 2013, 11:55:59 AM
Just got finished doing my upgrades for OS and Firefox. 4 hours. I'm gonna take a break now, although I know there's other issues to work through - Java and my scanner software at least.

Anyway, reason I came to this thread - after the updates, my vertical scroll was working backwards. I look in system preferences under 'mouse', and there's now a box called 'natural scroll' which was checked. Apparently I am an unnatural scroller.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on October 29, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
So OS 11.1 Demon will probably have a choice for preternatural.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 29, 2013, 12:33:47 PM
Pff, "natural scrolling".  At this point, I defy any UI designer to even know what 'intuitive' means.  :harumph:


Our upstairs computer's power supply died.  There was much clamoring to get a replacement, which would cost about $40, whereas the computer is worth about $50.  Not having to fucking reinstall everything, though, would probably be worth about $200.  :eyeroll:  The fun of maintaining dekstop computers that are twelve years old.

For the time being, pulled the drive and put it as an external on another, newer XP machine.  OF COURSE Windows is so badly designed that you cannot run apps that way, good lord no.  And yadda yadda, many annoyances ensue.

Weirdly, on this machine's XP the Run As thing does work pretty consistently.  I've never seen an XP machine where it worked before.  Huh.

We downloaded and installed Firefox, direct from Mozilla, and it came as Firefox Optimized For Yahoo!  Which, fuck, is like a new car optimized for buggy whips.  Ridiculous.  And the new version of Thunderbird is awful, too.

Chrome is really pretty damn lousy, but the competition all seems determined to throw the race.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 29, 2013, 01:40:03 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Palpatine1.jpg)
The mouse control panel is a pathway to scrolling that some would call ... unnatural
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on October 29, 2013, 03:25:35 PM
i had written a long rant about the adobe creative clown, but it just seemed pointless.

it just sucks that we're going to have to upgrade everyone to the same level instead of being able to keep some of the staff on older versions. i think it's going to run us $312 a month.

we get files from clients and need to keep up with them. adobe seems to change format every version and often they aren't backwards compatible.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 29, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
Yes, it's quite a dickish business model.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 29, 2013, 04:57:43 PM
i had written a long rant about the adobe creative clown, but it just seemed pointless.

it just sucks that we're going to have to upgrade everyone to the same level instead of being able to keep some of the staff on older versions. i think it's going to run us $312 a month.

we get files from clients and need to keep up with them. adobe seems to change format every version and often they aren't backwards compatible.

Why can't some of the staff stay with an older version? (I'm kinda scared to ask)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on October 29, 2013, 05:09:23 PM
it gets tiresome for one or two people to have to convert files for others.

it's $40 a month per seat.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 29, 2013, 05:13:33 PM
Where I used to work, we would often have to send files out to have someone back-save them for us. That person was pretty non-responsive and not around a lot. Talk about tiresome.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 29, 2013, 05:26:48 PM
I used to enjoy 'upgrades'. I'm not sure if it's me getting older (undeniable) or if maybe the changes are not really improvements. I have not seen anything yet that has made me say, "oh cool!", or "what a great idea!". I have said, "WTF?" and "That sucks." a few times already though.

I hope this gets better...
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on October 29, 2013, 05:30:04 PM
i just updated to maverick today. so far it's a little annoying. i'm not sure if it's going to be helpful.

i had to reinstall java to even allow illustrator to launch. that seems like a no brainer to make sure illustrator works on a mac.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 29, 2013, 06:14:27 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm going through, but I updated all the way from 10.5 in one day. I'm in the process of making a list of problems as they come up. I've got 9 things so far and the java for CS5 is one issue. I haven't dealt with any of it yet. I know about the java security issues, and I have a vague recollection Apple decided a while back to to not default install java on new OS, but I just want to research a little before I install.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 29, 2013, 06:51:36 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm going through, but I updated all the way from 10.5 in one day.

You can do that? OOH.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 29, 2013, 06:55:43 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Palpatine1.jpg)
The mouse control panel is a pathway to scrolling that some would call ... unnatural


Gooooooooood. I can feel your mouse wheel.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 29, 2013, 07:18:48 PM
Gooooooooood. I can feel your mouse wheel.

 :lol:

Yeah, that's what I'm going through, but I updated all the way from 10.5 in one day.

You can do that? OOH.

I had to do 10.5 to 10.6, but then was able to leap from .6 to .9
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on October 29, 2013, 10:39:25 PM
That's about my vertical leap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 17, 2013, 06:22:48 PM
About the 10.9 Mavericks thing. I would suggest holding off on upgrading. Buggy.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on November 17, 2013, 08:01:22 PM
I was wondering about that. They actually removed it from my software update menu in the App Store (but it's still available for free in the App Store).  :hmm:

People on Second Life have been saying it's really good for SL Mac users because memory is compressed, and the active window is given processor and memory priority over all other user processes.

But I always wait on these things, to see how it actually shakes out, because... well, because I'm me.  :batteyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on November 17, 2013, 08:03:03 PM
Also, I think it's stupid that they discontinued naming the versions after big cats, at 10.9   :harumph:

Couldn't they have waited one more version?  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on November 17, 2013, 08:06:48 PM
(http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/i-FpZ9bt9-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 17, 2013, 10:16:32 PM
After a few more patches, it might be okay, or at least without major bugs. It's at 10.9.1 now. Maybe 10.9.2 will be the ticket. There will still be changes I'm not too happy about, but those will probably never change.

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Also, I think it's stupid that they discontinued naming the versions after big cats, at 10.9

I don't really get that either. The new names are "places in California that inspire us"  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 17, 2013, 10:37:22 PM
As I was typing that, I clicked on the apple just to verify that it was 10.9.1, but it only showed 10.9. I thought maybe I never rebooted after downloading the update, but I just did reboot, and it still only shows 10.9. Looking in my updates, it shows the last update was installed - version 1.0 Mail Update for Mavericks. I guess you don't need to know what version you are running anymore - they take care of that for you  :rolleyes: Also, in the update info, it offers a reference for more info, a URL to a KB article, but the URL is not hot, nor can you copy/paste. Jeebus help us.

(http://i.imgur.com/MTxTAR9.png)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 17, 2013, 11:50:47 PM
(http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/i-FpZ9bt9-M.jpg)

NO. FUCK THAT. OS X BANANA SLUG FOREVER
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on November 18, 2013, 12:19:11 AM
Can't wait for OS 11 Chupacabra
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on November 18, 2013, 12:39:04 AM
Will OS 13 start with Damien?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 18, 2013, 11:43:22 AM
Sea Lion?  I thought it was Seal Ion.

Sea Lion doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on November 18, 2013, 12:16:20 PM
luckily, i run time machine. i rolled back to 10.8 a few days ago.

i highly recommend time machine. you can get a good size USB drive for pretty cheap. this is similar to what i use:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149470

it just sits there on the desk and i don't even know it's working most of the time.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 18, 2013, 12:27:13 PM
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i don't even know it's working most of the time.

Pretty much my experience with Windows 7.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 18, 2013, 02:17:19 PM
luckily, i run time machine. i rolled back to 10.8 a few days ago.

i highly recommend time machine. you can get a good size USB drive for pretty cheap. this is similar to what i use:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149470

it just sits there on the desk and i don't even know it's working most of the time.

Yeah, I have time machine, and I've got two external drives - 1TB & 2TB. I got the larger one for free from work. I'd could go back, but I'd have to go all the way back to 10.6, and there might be different glitches awaiting there.

After all I've been through since the update, I'd hate to roll back now. I'm gonna ride it out.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on November 18, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
i found some of my software was incompatible.

today i had to order drives for all the girls at work. none of them are running time machine.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 19, 2013, 05:33:13 PM
Is there any actual good reason for the bold and italic tags being semi-kinda-sorta-replaced with "strong" and "em" tags in the newest and no doubt spiffiest HTML?  Every explanation and argument I've seen has either suggested that all people and software are quite stupid or that the person explaining the difference is quite stupid.

I especially object to the notion that one is a matter of formatting and the other is a matter of semantics, and that this is somehow a big deal.  On the other hand, I also object to the idea that it's a substantive argument to say that bold and italics aren't useful formatting tags for blind people.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 19, 2013, 07:42:06 PM
Work email is moving to Microsoft Connect in 15 minutes. It was nice knowin ya, email ... ! ;)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on November 19, 2013, 09:52:05 PM
Email is passe, isn't it?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: eldiem on November 19, 2013, 10:04:35 PM
Ok it's long overdue and it's not even done yet but there are new preliminary guidelines for treating both hypertension AND dyslipidemia. Did you AHA type folks REALLY FEEL LIKE NOW WAS THE TIME?? I mean, I'm on a break.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 20, 2013, 12:03:36 AM
dyslipidemia? :hmm: Excessive skinniness?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: eldiem on November 20, 2013, 01:14:41 AM
Well it's inaccurate to call it "hyperlipidemia" (high cholesterol) since people who have the biggest problem generally have high LDL but low HDL, so they usually call it mixed dyslipidemia.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 20, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
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mixed dyslipidemia

Makes it sound like a really strange beauty contest.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 20, 2013, 05:43:58 PM
That's fascinating.

I have high LDL and just peachy HDL, so that makes me ... ok fine whatever I'll take the fucking statins just shut up now .

Not you.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 20, 2013, 06:08:47 PM
They talked about this on the PBS Newshour last week, and my understanding was that the new guidelines for cholesterol were less based on bloodwork and more concentrated on other risk factors - genes, weight, etc. So someone that would have had high LDL would have gotten meds, period. Now, maybe not. I think the numbers were raised as well.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 20, 2013, 06:13:34 PM
Also, back to bitching about Mavericks for a second, one of the issues I've been having with it is not being able to wake the computer with my mouse. That problem mostly went away (I don't know why, really), but occasionally it won't wake by moving the mouse, and I'll hit the keyboard to wake it. Today I did that, and the computer made the sound set for when I send email. I quickly checked to see if I had just sent an email, and there was nothing in the sent folder. Bizarre.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: eldiem on November 20, 2013, 06:40:39 PM
That's fascinating.

I have high LDL and just peachy HDL, so that makes me ... ok fine whatever I'll take the fucking statins just shut up now .

Not you.

Actually according to the new guidelines I can probably stop taking my statin. The new algorithm they recommend is supposed to be easier but it's actually way more complicated. I'm frankly too scared to stop taking my statin (until I want to try to make the babies) because of my family history.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 26, 2013, 03:38:49 PM
The Windows 7 machine at work is SO EFFING SLOW, especially compared to the old XP machine that had, you know, like 1/8th the computing power.  Good god, I hate that BS.

Anyway, I asked my brother about it, and he pointed me at the event scheduler . . . which in Win 7 is so incredibly awful that it actually made me uncomfortable.  MS has got to start outsourcing its software design.  Seriously.  Like, immediately.

I went through, laboriously, and, sure enough, found a ton of unnecessary stuff that was scheduled to happen constantly.  Just awful.  This machine came with Win 7 pre-installed, and apparently they opted (of course they did) for the Enriched User Experience, which is MS-Speak for the computer recording everything you do and sending the data to MS.  More or less.  Seriously, it makes it run the hard drive like every ten minutes.

But what really pissed me off is the fscking Google bullshit.  Knock it off, Google.  The damned updater (which is, unconscionably, slow as a sloth orgy) runs EVERY HOUR?  How about no?

The machine runs notably faster now.  Not fast, certainly, but faster.  It would be satisfying to countermand that idiocy even if it didn't make the machine faster.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 07, 2013, 01:27:04 PM
I seriously hate Chrome a little more every day.  I can't tell if it gets a little worse with every update or if I'm just less and less patient with it, but it sure seems like it's getting worse.  It is now definitely slower than IE for a crapton of stuff, including some pages where I cannot imagine why it is so slow.  Almost any time I manage to get it to cancel loading a page and then try reloading, it never reloads, just churns away indefinitely.  Hard to actually get it to stop in the first place, though.

Opera (older versions only) is just so much blindingly faster for 95% of what I do online . . . it's ridiculous.  If a reasonable (ie, pre-Chromium) version of Opera would let me either run two instances or let me have JS and plug-ins enabled in one window but not others, it would be nearly perfect, and I would never use Chrome or IE again for anything.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2013, 06:01:19 PM
Here's another thing I hate, and I think this is a fair and logical complaint:

When I turn the computer on, it's because I want to use the computer.  I don't think it takes a genius to figure that out.  But there's a ton of bullshit software updates that want to run as part of start-up.  Just because they were developed by assholes.  Most of this is shit that could just as easily update when I shut the computer down or step away for long enough for the machine to go to sleep, etc.

The antivirus . . . OK . . . it probably really doesn't need to update as soon as possible, but arguably it's a security issue for it to get new threat definitions right away.  I suppose.  Of course, Windows XP and 7, at least, have seemingly lost all ability to multitask, and my machine grinds to a halt when the antivirus is updating, even though it thoughtfully sets its priority to Below Normal.

But Adobe . . . your shit does not need to update at startup.  Google, your shit does not need to update at startup.  Almost nobody's shit needs to update at startup.  It's my damned computer.  Let me use it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 10, 2013, 06:22:54 PM
Heh. Yeah, update at startup, when the computer is at its slowest, because like you said, it's trying to calculate the most recent distance to Venus or whatever, and then updating it wants to reboot, and then check for updates.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2013, 06:31:37 PM
I admit this particularly annoys me because I have tried like hell to make both the Adobe and Google shit knock it off, and it hasn't worked.  I've gone into their settings.  I've tried changing their permissions.  I've used MSCONFIG to remove them from the Seekrit Startup List.  It does not fucking work.  This is fucking malware.

I've gotten into the habit of starting Task Manager immediately as the machine starts up to manually kill the Adobe PDF Reader updater, but the Google one can't be cancelled that way.  I don't have the authority to stop it.

:banghead:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
Speaking of Google, I thought I'd already complained about this, but maybe not.

Totally typical of Chrome not giving a fuck what the user wants:

Today I logged out of Hotmail, and as soon as I saw that the logout request had gone through, I hit Escape.  Of course, that did nothing, so I hit the Stop Loading button with the mouse pointer.  The page appeared to stop loading.

I cleared the address bar, entered "weather.gov", and sent it off.

Chrome gets halfway through loading the Weather.gov page . . . stops . . . and loads the MSN Oh, You've Logged Out Of Hotmail page.

I'm pretty sure I changed color with rage.  You know, in Opera (the old versions I still use) I can have twelve tabs loading stuff, go to one, hit Escape, hit Ctrl-Tab to jump to the next one, hit Escape, and so on, all the way down the line, as fast as I can hit the keys.  And Opera will obey me and cancel every one of those pages.

It's called a 'user interface', and it allows the user to control software operations.  Google ought to look into it.  Or disband and go into the pet food industry, or something.  User interrupts are near the top of the priority chain, right after system stability and security.  I know you don't want me to be able to stop a page from loading ads, Google, but I don't give a fuck what you want.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 10, 2013, 06:47:33 PM
 :lol:

Pretty much unrelated, but I was trying to create an alias with Hotmail the other day, and the help system over there is spread all over the place with bits here and there and they occasionally scramble the locations. I finally thought I found the instructions, and then it tells me I have to install Silverlight to view it  :lol: They'll do anything to cram that down people's throats. I eventually found the text version of the instructions under "more mail settings".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on December 10, 2013, 10:48:14 PM
Regarding boot times - there's no good answer that I know of. I'm supposed to let them shut down my computer at night, and turn it on when I get to the office. (Or use the remote turn on tool while I'm on the freeway?) With all the checks the computer has to do, then the server checks before it can join the network and then the domain... 20 minutes can go by, and nobody is startled.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 11, 2013, 04:23:05 PM
This isn't the fault of any of the software companies, but . . . our upstairs machine's Sleep mode works perfectly, but I'm the only one who will use it.  It even has a keyboard that has a special Sleep button on it -- and it's even well-designed!  You'd never hit it by accident.

But if I'm not the last person to use that computer at night, it gets turned off.  I've explained it; I've left notes.  It's just how it is.  :shrug:  Apparently I'm the only one here who hates waiting.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 11, 2013, 05:45:51 PM
Everyone else gets paid by the hour.



You get paid by the century or something
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 14, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
Dear Chrome:

Stop telling me to import bookmarks.  Why do you even think I have bookmarks elsewhere that you could import?  You'd better not be snooping. 

And you've been installed on this machine for like two years.  If I haven't wanted to import any fucking bookmarks by now, maybe I don't want to fucking import any fucking bookmarks.  So shut the fuck up.

Jesus, it's like they went to a Microsoft seminar called The Preciousness of Maximal Annoyance.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 14, 2013, 09:12:50 PM
Doesn't matter. Universe could end at any minute. (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/13/universe-collapse-phase-transition_n_4437807.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular) Maybe already has! That puts the whole trouble-with-your-computer thing in perspective, dunnit?!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 15, 2013, 09:38:00 AM
Bring it.


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Although the new calculations predict that a collapse is now more likely than ever before, it is actually also possible, that it will not happen at all.

- source article
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 15, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
They did this same scenario with gravity decades ago, where someone's work suggested that the gravitational constant could probably change, without notice, between several harmonic values, like electron shell whateverstuff.  If it did, the change would propagate at the speed of light, and yadda yadda.  I figured that was where Stephen Baxter got his idea for Raft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raft_(novel)).

But I dunno.  I go outside, and gravity feels about the same as usual.

Anyway, if the universe is going to end soon, all the more reason why my computer should work properly RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 15, 2013, 07:26:56 PM
This all kind of makes me think of Anathem where there's a line (paraphrasing here) about how nobody cares about all this useless metaphysical crap until an alien starship from another universe appears in orbit.






Side note. Fuck you, firefox, 'starship' is NOT FUCKING MISSPELLED
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 18, 2013, 06:50:12 PM
I was digging around today looking for my Firefox profile folder and I couldn't find it. I had a Firefox knowledge base article that gave the two possible paths, and I kept looking at it over and over, comparing to my system's folder. I had noticed several times since upgrading that the new OS directory was somehow different, but I hadn't put my finger on it. The window system is kinda screwy to begin with, and actually there are a few little things that are different that were distracting me from seeing the obvious:

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All of the latest versions of OS X have opted for a conservative approach to showing the users ~/Library/ directory, a folder which contains a variety of important files, settings, preferences, caches, and many specific files that are required for apps to run as intended. Because of the possibility of unintentional harm to a users Mac, OS X defaults to hiding that folder, with the intention on preventing novice users from making changes to it.
- http://osxdaily.com/2013/10/28/show-user-library-folder-os-x-mavericks/

I don't know what version they changed it in, but I could always see my Library until I jumped from 10.5 to 10.9. I guess they figure if you don't notice it missing, you probably shouldn't be messing with it anyway. Just because they made me feel stupid doesn't mean they aren't stupid. 
:P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 18, 2013, 08:13:39 PM
... this is Microsoft bullshit, Deke!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on December 18, 2013, 10:33:06 PM
Just putting this back where it belongs...    :innocent:


(http://mail.29-95.com/files/images/Hi_j0132.JPG)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 20, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
BC is choking 90% of the time I try to load any page.  Chrome just gives up on it; Opera keeps trying to load and/or render something until I make it stop.  I have no idea what the problem is, but it's been like this for about a week.

In older versions of Opera, the status bar would tell you what element the browser was trying to load.  No more.  Instead, I either just have a progress bar in kb or % -- which is kind of strange, anyway.  At first, it tells me how many kb it's loaded, and as it loads more of a page it tells me what % it's loaded.

Modern browsers being as stupid as they are, it doesn't load all the HTML first, so if I stop it when it gets stuck, I don't get all the text that's supposed to be on the page.  No choice but to reload . . . and reload . . . and reload . . . .
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 20, 2014, 11:19:18 AM
Isn't there a text-only version thingee?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 20, 2014, 11:24:18 AM
This was what I was thinking of: http://www.bizarreconfessions.com/forum/index.php?topic=60.0

I haven't been having any problems here.

You're not having problems on other sites?

Have you tried dumping your cookies for this site and dumping cache?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 20, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
Of the browser or of the site?



I noticed just now that the choking only occurs if I'm logged in.  :confused:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 20, 2014, 01:41:09 PM
Can't get that link to load at all, so I'm not sure what it is . . . .  Whatever's causing the problem, it isn't an image that won't load.  It's probably something fancier, although I don't know what.  I have JS turned off at the moment, which doesn't actually seem to make a difference.

I've tried clearing the cache, etc, but I have this same problem on two out of three machines here.  The versions of Opera are different, and one of the machines having the problem is Win7 instead of XP, but the Chromes are all up to date, so I can't even guess.

If I'm the only one having a problem with it, then I assume it's just a curse or something.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 20, 2014, 01:44:27 PM
Actually, it's suddenly working great.  I don't know if this will last.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 20, 2014, 05:40:29 PM
Sounds like an ISP thing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 20, 2014, 09:36:19 PM
Could be DNS.

Still, try this:  http://www.dillo.org
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 21, 2014, 09:39:54 AM
Looks interesting, but "dillo"? What the hell were they thinking?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 21, 2014, 09:56:16 AM
They were thinking "dildo" but they didn't want to get traffic from people looking for information about the down in Newfoundland.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 21, 2014, 01:12:45 PM
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Actually, it's suddenly working great.  I don't know if this will last.

I TOTALLY jinxed it with that, and it stopped working altogether.  :lol:  Right now, I can only kinda sorta load it with Chrome, at the downstairs machine.  Our upstairs machine is having . . . other problems right now.

I'll have to look at Dillo later.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on January 23, 2014, 07:06:20 PM
I use(d) OpenDNS to solve my issues like that... a few years back. Haven't had trouble in that realm since. Dillo looks good too.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on February 01, 2014, 04:50:43 PM
Here's a $10 Thinkpad for you, axe ... Seattle Craigslist (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/4304979999.html)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 02, 2014, 12:33:24 PM
:lol:

I haven't had time to install Linux on my 'new' one.  It's still sitting in a box under 'my' desk upstairs at the shop.

Meanwhile, I took the disk home to try installing it on a desktop machine I have there, but I ran out of time last night while I was trying to fix my stupid boots.

I don't think I can bring myself to keep the horrible AT&T DSL.  It's just so terrible and so overpriced.  Apparently the only other options in my neighborhood (you know, downtown in the state capital) are Comcast and satellite.  The Comcast deal is as much as AT&T before equipment rental, and having cable internet is nothing special for me -- average DSL is fast enough for the only bandwidth-intensive thing I do, Netflix.

I was seriously thinking of just getting dial-up and cancelling the Netflix Instant.  Dial-up in my neighborhood is only available through one company, and they want $25 a month for it.  That's what DSL should cost.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 04, 2014, 05:12:47 PM
Windows 7 machine at work nearly ground to a halt.  It was getting worse and worse over the course of a week, but no one could figure out WTF was wrong with it.  I figured the fan was going. 

Windows 7 Task Manager is total crap compared to, say, XP's.  It simply doesn't want you to know anything.  Very helpful.

Today we tried restarting it, and when it was shutting down we got a Task Window error message, very briefly.  Aha!  Something to google.  Naturally this turned up tens of thousands of pages of people complaining about this.  :eyeroll:

Apparently the Windows 7 task scheduler is wholly incompetent, and the (Irony Ahead) Windows 7 Reliability Analysis app is a frequent system killer.

[sigh]

Hopefully I can disable this shit.  It doesn't look too hard.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 04, 2014, 06:30:09 PM
Windows 7 machine at work nearly ground to a halt.  It was getting worse and worse over the course of a week, but no one could figure out WTF was wrong with it.  I figured the fan was going. 

Windows 7 Task Manager is total crap compared to, say, XP's.  It simply doesn't want you to know anything.  Very helpful.

Today we tried restarting it, and when it was shutting down we got a Task Window error message, very briefly.  Aha!  Something to google.  Naturally this turned up tens of thousands of pages of people complaining about this.  :eyeroll:

Apparently the Windows 7 task scheduler is wholly incompetent, and the (Irony Ahead) Windows 7 Reliability Analysis app
is a frequent system killer.

[sigh]

Hopefully I can disable this shit.  It doesn't look too hard.

FTFY
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 05, 2014, 02:57:25 PM
It always always amazes me when people are big fans of newer versions of Windows.  I can't complain about Windows at Fbook, for instance, without someone coming out of the woodwork to jump on me.  Maybe they're paid shills; honestly, I have no idea.

The number of actual functional improvements from version to version is miniscule, and often there are big drops in various areas.  And yet you need so much more computing power to get the same shit done at roughly the same speed.

It's as if a Ford Fusion needed a 500 HP engine and got 6 MPG to reach 60 MPH nowadays because of all the fancy trim on the outside, but the radio and seats didn't work properly anymore, and the steering wheel had been replaced by a glass sculpture of a puppy. 

Not actually an improvement.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 05, 2014, 04:21:03 PM
Some of that is true for all computers, Axe. I can't believe how slow this damn computer is and it's got a gigahertz plus processor with gigabytes of RAM and a half terabyte of disk. It's way slower, running the "same" software, than its rough equivalent was 20 years ago. That's just stupid.

It always always amazes me when people are big fans of newer versions of Windows.

I am not amazed. Those people are being paid (or coerced) somehow. Not always in an obvious way, but they are.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 05, 2014, 04:22:18 PM
I'm just remembering a postdoc in my lab when I was a graduate student, circa 1988, complaining about how slow his Macintosh SE was, saying something like "... it's got a MEGABYTE of RAM for chrissakes"
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 05, 2014, 04:31:58 PM
Our 'new' upstairs machine, which is seven years old, is 'blazingly fast' running XP, which is to say that it's almost as fast as my last Windows 3x machine was.  (Although I would not necessarily want to literally go back to Windows 3.  I'm sure internet stuff would be a PITA.)

Our downstairs machine is much newer but has the Windows 7, and it is dreadfully slow.  Although since I turned off MS RAC . . . Chrome is much faster.  Beats me.  And now, on that machine, Chrome will render a tab or page in the background.  Weird.  It's an improvement, but it's weird.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 05, 2014, 06:19:47 PM
This reminds me I haven't said "Mavericks sucks" lately.

Mavericks sucks.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on February 05, 2014, 10:21:55 PM
The last version of Windows that didn't constantly and completely piss me off was Windows 2000.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 09, 2014, 07:39:36 PM
Mavericks issues:

The spinning beach ball appears without rhyme or reason. As soon as you move the cursor or touch a key, it stops spinning/disappears. Otherwise it will keep going for a while.

Mail doesn’t check the server for new mail on a regular basis. If there’s a pattern to it, I haven’t figured it out yet. This was supposed to be addressed in the last update, but it didn’t happen. They may have fixed something, but not that.

Mail originally displayed totally different after first updating, but after making a lot of adjustments, I was able to get it back to the way it was before.

TextEdit
was changed so that the default was to autosave files, which was a surprise without warning. I still haven’t decided whether I like that or not. Autocorrect spelling was default also, I believe.

They changed the way labeling files works. Where you used to be able to color a file or folder, now it just puts a colored dot out beside it. It’s much more subtle, and defies part of the purpose of the function. OTOH, you can now search by label, so if you use it in that manner, which I don’t, it could be pretty handy.

Subtlety in design is a problem in several other areas, like the dock, which now has a like 2 pixel X 6 pixel white line to show which application is active. Hard to see. Scroll bars are light gray, again, hard to see on a long page.

I used to be able to move my mouse to wake my system, but that doesn’t work anymore. Well, it started working again and then it quit working, I dunno. Now I have to either tap the keyboard or click the mouse, simply moving it won’t work. That may be due to energy saving issues, which Mavericks is big on, but I’m just guessing.

I tried to install Java, but it turned into a nightmare. I don’t remember the whole story now… I have that in a separate doc somewhere. I can’t blame Apple for that though - Java sucks.

I used to have Firefox icons on all my internet files, (like shortcuts - webloc files) but after updating, they all changed to Safari icons, and could not be changed back, even though Firefox is the default browser and the app associated with the file type. The only option is to use a generic “@HTTP” icon, which is what I’m doing.

Mouse scrolling was backwards after updating, I had to uncheck ‘natural scroll’ under ‘mouse’ under system preferences.

My scanner wouldn’t work until the driver was updated.

The sidebar is always visible in windows. You can close it for the window you’re viewing, but I haven’t figured out a way to turn it off across the board if that's possible.

Time machine
icon in toolbar used to be automated when the backup was running. No more. Now it changes to a very slightly different icon. Again, that subtlety thing.

My phone would not connect as easily as it used to for uploading photos. I still haven’t figured out the correct procedure for that, since I don’t do it very often.

In iCal, you used to be able to click on a particular date, and it would highlight that date, which is helpful if you want to count days between one date and another, for example. That doesn’t work anymore.

The user Library folder is hidden by default, but can be revealed if go searching for instructions: http://osxdaily.com/2013/10/28/show-user-library-folder-os-x-mavericks/

My system overall is slower, slower to boot, and occasional freezes.

When restarting, the new default is to automatically relaunch all apps that were previously running. Here is the dialog for that in System Preferences > General:
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√ Close windows when quitting an application
When selected, open documents and windows will not be restored when you re-open an application.
I would never have guessed the two were related.

Updates are through the app store. I think it’s been that way for a few OS versions. If you choose not to update, it will keep pestering you (reminding you) daily, at a minimum, to update, even when it’s something like iTunes that’s being updated.

That’s all the gripes I can think of at the moment. There are some improvements, but I don’t feel inclined to address them after typing all that out.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 09, 2014, 11:18:16 PM
Ugh. All of that sounds bad.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
In Windows 7, when you minimize something, it doesn't move it to the end of the Alt-Tab cycle.

FFS, Microsoft.  FFS.

Followed instructions for a registry hack that was supposed to fix this, but it did nothing.  I already knew they'd effed up task-switching (and they never DID get the hang of multitasking), but this annoys me every freaking day that I have to use Win 7.  Minimize something, hit Alt-Tab, switch back to minimized app.  NO.  Go to the bottom of the stack and stay there until I call you.

I will also never get used to the crappy downgraded Task Manager and how they made it harder to access.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2014, 03:49:07 PM
Here's another thing I hate, although the exact details vary from one Windows install to another, for no apparent reason:

Plug in a USB drive.  Some Windows installs go bugnuts with the alerts from the bullshit System Tray.  Found New Hardware!  Found USB Device!  Found Cruzer!  Found Hard Drive!

Stop making me close these stupid announcements.  And don't scan the damned thing.  Who asked you?  How does that help?  I have never, for the life of me, plugged in any USB flashdrive and wanted it to autoplay anything.  Even if I had one that was nothing but music files, say, I wouldn't want it to just autoplay.

Simmer the fuck down, Windows.  Be professional about this.  Shut up with the stupid pestering crap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2014, 11:14:26 AM
Installed Opera 12 on the front counter machine to see if it would start properly loading the various websites, such as BC, that almost never load correctly anymore.  Didn't make any difference.

Brain started working.  Checked again in Chrome.  Same pages still don't load more than 10% of the time.

Brain continued working.  These sites work on the other two machines here.  OH RIGHT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY HAVE XP.

This machine is Win 7.  Windows 7 hates these cans.  It all makes sense now.

Of course, this doesn't fix anything, but at least I can stop trying to figure out what's wrong with the browsers.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on February 13, 2014, 11:43:14 AM
I don't suppose you've tried giving yourself a new Chrome profile on that machine?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2014, 11:57:09 AM
No, but . . . the same sites (BC, Tumblr, BBC) have the same problems on any browser on this machine.  Some element on the page just can't seem to load, most of the time, and none of the browsers are smart enough to just skip it and load the fucking HTML.

If you keep trying to reload, it'll eventually manage to get through.  If you just let it sit, when it chokes, it'll keep choking forever.  I just tried it with Chrome to see if it would eventually time out like it does if it can't reach the page at all, but it seems to just get stuck forever.  Doesn't eventually tell me the page ain't working or that it's unresponsive.

It's stupid, whatever it is.  I admit it's not necessarily Windows 7's fault -- there could be something else wrong; maybe someone tried to block something -- but that's how I would bet.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 13, 2014, 11:58:04 AM
Microsoft has that internet settings control panel thing, maybe it's got some kind of restrictions there out of the box.

Fucking Microsoft.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
Nah -- well, yeah, probably, but -- these are sites that used to work fine on this machine.  Might be Windows rusting.  Hard to know.

I discovered that if I have Opera download the page and save it to disk instead of trying to render it, it downloads it -- bam -- instantly.  But if I then open the page, it's an older version of the page from the last time I visited it.  Definitely a new download, but of an old page.  So I think maybe that BC and the other sites are partly to blame.  Some people are always getting unnecessarily fancy with the web design.

Well, most people.  Still, it's only a problem on this particular machine, so my guess is that I'll never figure it out.  :whatever:  Annoying, though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 13, 2014, 04:22:29 PM
Have you tried turning off images to see if it's hanging on an image?

Opera is weird. I was trying to save a web page the other day in Firefox, and I couldn't. Apparently the site blocks saving somehow. I never really delved into it very far because I realized after a few minutes that I had already read the article any way  :P

Anywaaay, I tried opening it up in Opera to see if I could save it from there, and the site won't even display - it displays like it's a two-character-wide text column centered on the page. Bizarre. And it's a fairly major site: http://www.independent.co.uk/
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 15, 2014, 12:54:13 PM
The last several versions of Opera have had design changes that ranged from Iffy to Unfamiliar With Opera.  It hasn't helped.  Back in the day, I think I'd run across maybe one website in thirty that wouldn't render correctly in Opera.  Opera 10-11 were a mess in that regard, and 12 works better, as far as that goes, but it seems to vary way too much from one machine to the next.

Also, it does some of my least favorite things in the world, such as letting me tell it to override certain formatting choices and use my style instead . . . and then not actually doing that.  A few websites I'd like to regularly use, for instance, have horrendously stupid formats for links.  Normally Opera obeys me and overrides their links and uses the proper underlined blue for unvisited and red for visited.  But for a few sites (anything Yahoo, for instance), it lets the page overrule me, which is treason.

The Independent is currently loading fine for me, under Opera 12.02, with no JS / Java /  plugins activated.  Beats me.  If I switch to User Mode, the formatting becomes awful, but it's still legible.  It does turn it into a single narrow column -- later versions of Opera do that routinely with a lot of pages when you turn on User Mode.

Opera does typically give you far better options for things like saving page elements or viewing them separately or looking at their properties.  Chrome, in particular, makes this a tremendously unpleasant hassle.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 15, 2014, 01:30:21 PM
I don't know if I'm in user mode or what. I'm using it with the default settings.

I only use it to test sites. I'm using version 12.16.

Here's a screen shot of part of the page - other sections vary, like sometimes the columns are one word wide. But it's just this column down the middle of an all white page. Bizarre looking.

(http://i.imgur.com/DVu1NO9.png)

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 15, 2014, 02:55:14 PM
Ohhhh.  That's fucked up.

Starting with Opera 10, they majorly screwed with the keyboard shortcuts in bad ways, but if you go to View | Style, at the top you can toggle Author Mode / User Mode.  Author Mode renders the page according to the style instructions in the HTML / CSS.  User Mode changes to style settings you can specify yourself, although for some reason they made them harder to get at:

Alt+P (or Tools | Preferences) ==>  Content == > Style Options ==> Presentation Modes.

User Mode generally doesn't display background images and often doesn't display frames correctly, for whatever reason.  It lets you change font and style settings, etc.  A lot of pages that are designed and/or coded by lesser monkeys look better in User Mode.  Used to be a lot more of them did, but for whatever reason User Mode doesn't work as well as it used to.

Example:

If I load sports.yahoo.com/nba/ to check out NBA news:

- In Author Mode, without JS, the page loads instantly, with no ads, but the links are sort of light teal and don't show up well, and regular text (such as the body of a story) displays behind the background image.

- In Author Mode with JS turned on, the page takes about 43 seconds to load and render, with lots of ads and too wide for the screen.  Body text displays correctly, and the link color is more saturated.  :shrug:

- In User Mode, no JS, the page loads instantly but displays incorrectly, so that the stuff compacted into hover-menus and yadda yadda gets displayed as a long vertical column.  Page-down past that, and the text is totally readable, just plain good old black text on a white background.

You win some, you lose some.  The same page is far slower, and has more ads, if I use Chrome, although I don't have an ad blocker installed for Chrome on this machine.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 23, 2014, 01:48:48 PM
Lately, on our downstairs machine, Chrome autocompletes URLs by adding // at the end of them.  Then it chokes trying to load them.

If you let it autocomplete, then jump to the end of the URL and delete the last slash, it loads the pages fine.

Not sure why it's started adding the slashes, but it's pretty annoying.


On that same (Windows 7) machine, I finally managed to turn off Windows Search, as far as I can tell.  SO much more trouble than it possibly, possibly, possibly should have been.  I turned it off a couple of different ways, and the machine would bog to a shrieking-fan overheated standstill, and it would be Windows Search running the drive endlessly.  Effing hell.

But I finally did kill it.  And now the machine runs acceptably again.  BUT:

- Now there's no search of any kind in File Explorer.  :eyeroll:

- It also took away the Run command in the Start menu.

FFS, Microsoft.  Apparently there are superior third-party (and free, even) replacements for some of this, but not all of it.

While I was digging through all the bullshit to try to really truly honestly stop Windows Search, I of course found ten million other things that automatically entitle themselves to run when the machine starts . . . and which we will never, ever need.  I spent a long time looking them up and changing them from automatic-start to Manual, which actually means that Windows can just turn them on if it actually needs them.  Instead of loading them at start-up for no reason.

So much BS.  Tablet support, various peer-sharing crap that I wouldn't trust anyway, Bluetooth whatnot, telephony gadgets almost no one uses . . . I don't even remember more than probably 20% of it.

The entire reason it all loads by default is because MS figures, Hey, the user is a moron, and if they DO happen to want to connect a tablet to their Windows machine by infrared, we'd better already have the stuff for that running in the background!  Because there's no way the user can figure out our 'intuitive' user interface and make that stuff happen otherwise.  Better safe than sorry.

This is the point where any competent corporation would realize they've screwed up the entire OS and need to redesign it from the ground up.  But no.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 23, 2014, 06:46:41 PM
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This is the point where any competent corporation would realize they've screwed up the entire OS and need to redesign it from the ground up.  But no.

I don't think that would even be possible run by the most competent corporation, given the bed they've made for themselves. They could however, start a new OS, while continuing the mess they have going, with the unspoken intention of eventually phasing out the old way in the future.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on February 23, 2014, 11:12:36 PM
...Not sure why it's started adding the slashes, but it's pretty annoying....

Cookieface?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 24, 2014, 11:44:34 AM
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They could however, start a new OS, while continuing the mess they have going, with the unspoken intention of eventually phasing out the old way in the future.

They sort of did do that, with Windows 8.  It's just that the new is even worse than the old.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on February 24, 2014, 07:59:27 PM
No they didn't.  The underlying OS in Windows 8 is still effectively Windows Vista.  All they did in Windows 8 is create a new (and poorly designed and implemented) user interface on top of it.

Yes, they tweaked some things under the hood and adjusted in minor ways how a few things are handled.

But ultimately Windows 8 is closer to Vista than Windows XP was to Windows 2000, from a kernel perspective.

And, if you want to get down to it, there are huge core swaths of the Windows kernel that are essentially unchanged since the code was first implemented in Windows NT in 1993.

So, hopefully that puts this in perspective.  When I call new versions of Windows "lipstick on a pig", I mean it.  It's the same old pig, when it comes down to it. 

All they really do is just apply new, shiny layers of lipstick on that same old hog.

That's why, ultimately, some of the same old problems never seem to go away.  And never will, until Microsoft really and truly DOES start fresh.

And I don't expect that to happen any time soon.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on February 24, 2014, 08:10:59 PM
I should probably amend that to say that there are huge chunks of the core of the Linux kernel that are essentially unchanged since 1991.

That said, big chunks have effectively been discarded and rewritten as needed over the years, and huge amounts of "modular" functionality have been added to it (in ways that don't break other things, largely, unlike the mess that Microsoft developers have to try to maintain when it comes to modular interoperability).

Unlike Windows, there is no one, sole, "this is the way it is, so take it or leave it" user interface to be stuck with either.

Linux Mint comes with Cinnamon as its user interface.  If you don't like it, you are literally a "sudo apt-get install lxde" or "sudo apt-get install fluxbox" or "sudo apt-get install xfce" (or whatever) away from installing an entirely different, independent user environment.

That's still one of the biggest complaints I have about Windows and Mac OS.  With either of those, I'm stuck with the way things work, interface-wise, and very little can change that.

On Linux based operating systems, I routinely alternate between completely different user interfaces, dependent on what I'm in the mood to use.

Like Fluxbox (http://fluxbox.org/screenshots/) (one of my personal favorites).  And LXDE (http://lxde.org/image/tid/1).  And Cinnamon (http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/).  And OpenBox (http://openbox.org/wiki/Openbox:Screenshots).

And there are many more.  All of which are a snap to install and they all work in different ways.  There's an environment for everybody!

Anyway, this is, in my opinion, one of the biggest strengths of the Linux and open source world.  Being stuck in the Windows world is like moving to a neighborhood where all the houses are essentially exactly the same, and the only thing you can choose is what color things are.  Hell, you can't even really rearrange the furniture there.

But where I live I can live in a house that perfectly suits my needs in almost every way.  8)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2014, 11:22:12 AM
Yes, this is exactly it.

When Windows 3 came out, MS had this big thing where they were talking back and forth with users about what future versions of Windows could and should be like.  And one thing they were really hot on was this variable interface, where you could select (by whatever names) Basic, Advanced, or Power UI, with progressively more options and more control.

Which was a good idea, and which they never did, of course.  Almost everything they talked about that was a good idea, they never did, like strong user portability, where the user had a small portable file that told Windows how that particular person wanted Windows and its apps configured.

Some stuff they specifically abandoned after their dustup with IBM over OS/2 Warp.  But mostly they just love the idea of forcing all users to behave the same way as much as possible.  Their designers always seem to take it very personally if you don't want everything the way they think is the best way for you.


The big problem (such as it is) with Linux is that Linux is still built around legacy nerdism, so that if you're not familiar with the underlying UNIX-esque whatnot, it's a big investment to fool around with configuring the thing.  The Windows interface doesn't make a damned bit of sense and isn't organized well, either, but there are far more PC users who are already familiar with it.

There have been a ton of attempts to put a non-technical interface on top of Linux so that a user doesn't need to learn command-line syntax.  It never quite seems to 100% happen.  And if you're not technical and want to try two dozen configurations to find out which one you like best, it is intimidating.  If they ever fix that, they have an excellent chance of, say, taking more market share than Apple.

It's kind of like if, say, Saab made great cheap cars that ran forever but were all standard-transmission diesels with only metric gauges and Swedish manuals.  Lots of people would be put off by km/h and liters of fuel, or learning to shift, or switching from gasoline.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 25, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
Quote
This is the point where any competent corporation would realize they've screwed up the entire OS and need to redesign it from the ground up.  But no.

I don't think that would even be possible run by the most competent corporation, given the bed they've made for themselves. They could however, start a new OS, while continuing the mess they have going, with the unspoken intention of eventually phasing out the old way in the future.

So, basically, the Apple Way. ;)

"I have seen the operating system of the future and its name is Macintosh" - Bill Gates, 1985
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2014, 06:10:16 PM
You know, I was a huge fan of the Apple II, and I always disliked the Mac on several levels.  I still have a visceral FTS reaction to even the thought of it.  It came as a complete surprise to me and was not in a million years where I would have gone from the Apple II. 

Of course, I'm still mad Atari stopped making PCs.  The Commodore 64 had nothing on the Ataris of the same era unless you were programming graphical stuff . . . in which case you probably had a VIC-20 anyway.

(We had a high-end PS/2 Model 25 with a hard drive and color screen, and I have no idea what it cost compared to a Mac, but it was pretty sweet.  We had that plus a secondhand ColecoVision with the Atari adaptor, but Manhattan Millionaire had an Atari 7800 that was pretty damned awesome.  And much cheaper than the IBM or Mac.)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 27, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
Hotmail is telling me I have 7 days to link my account to either a cell phone or another email account.

Or what? Are you gonna delete my account because I don't take security seriously enough?

I understand the intent, and it's good, but I don't trust them with the information. I guess all my email accounts are probably cross referenced and up for sale, or known by all the big players already, so there's no harm in giving them my old Yahoo email that I never use. But my suspicion is that one will get hacked, and this "security feature" will lead them to the other.

I have zero faith in online security at this point in time.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on February 27, 2014, 06:58:02 PM
Got a new laptop at work.  Much faster.  Doesn't lock up as much when I'm in dozens of 100+MB Excel spreadsheets.

Now for the Endless Complaining.  Now I'm on Windows 7 and I can't find anything.  My fingers are too fast for the keyboard shortcuts to keep up, so when a do a ctrl-c alt-tab, cursor, cursor, cursor... alt-e-s-v  half the time I get esv put into the cell instead of what I copied.  I had to put all of my desktop items into a file so they won't show on my desktop.  I hate the clutter.  I was able to add desktop to the taskbar, so I can use it like a menu tree the way I like.

Another problem I have is that I like the XP file system and this 7 is trying to look like the Mac OS with libraries and crap like that.  I haven't figured out the keyboard shortcuts to navigate it yet. 

My Outlook personal folders didn't come over so I'm going to have to get IT to remedy that.  I found the file on the old laptop and transferred it via google drive.  But I don't know how to add it to my Outlook.

I'm sure I'll find a lot more.

A big change is it takes even longer to boot up now.

Blah blah blah

Now for the laptop.  Old one, Think Pad T410.  New one T430.  Nicer machine but why the fuck did Renovo change the fucking keyboard layout.  My fingers know where the home, end, insert, delete, page up, and page down keys are supposed to be (far right column).  Now half are on the left side of the top row and the page up and page down are next to the cursor arrows.  When I'm working at home now my fingers are doing the right thing and now I'm getting deletions and funky navigations because they changed the fucking keyboard.  :gfy: Renovo.  :angry:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on February 27, 2014, 08:20:20 PM
I prefer Windows XP over Windows 7.

I prefer Windows 2000 over Windows XP.

I prefer even Windows Vista over Windows 8.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 01, 2014, 11:45:16 AM
Quote
But my suspicion is that one will get hacked, and this "security feature" will lead them to the other.

Exactly, yes.  And I totally believe it's just demographics fishing on MS's part.


Quote
My fingers are too fast for the keyboard shortcuts to keep up

Yep.  Windows 7 is farking slow.  I notice this all the time.  It's staggering how far behind it falls, and obnoxious how bad it is at buffering keyboard input.  Which, I guess, is really difficult . . . ?

I've been using a Windows 7 machine at work for I don't know how long now, maybe a year, and I haven't even gotten started getting used to it.  Every day, it's like it's slapping me and saying "How much do you love XP NOW, bitch?"


Oh, and that thing where hardware manufacturers decide they have a better idea about where the keys should be?  Yeah, DIAF.  The Dell keyboard we have at this machine at the moment has randomly reconfigured Home / End / Pg Up & Dn / Insert / Delete keys, too.  I hit the wrong one EVERY GODDAMN TIME.


Weirdly . . . killing Windows Search as much as possible on the 7 machine has improved it considerably, with some odd side effects.  At first I was rather upset at the vanishment of the Run command line in the Start Menu, but a bunch of googling learned me that Windows Key + R pops it up.  (I should have known that long ago.  It works in XP, too.)  And that still works!

I downloaded a free File Explorer replacement with a weird name that I already forgot.  I'll go look at it later.  It's nice -- much nicer than File Explorer, with far more options, but not badly organized.  Perhaps most importantly, it has an actual file search function

Kind of amazing, after putting up with the amateur bullshit Windows uses.  It doesn't require indexing yet, when I've used it so far, it's much faster than the Windows Search.  It allows wildcards and such and doesn't change the search options when you hit the Search button.  It's pretty good!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 12, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
Wasted two full hours today trying to get an HP laser printer to work on an XP machine.  Works fine connected to another XP machine by USB, but on the second machine the install Wizard crashes the machine.  Had to switch to the other cabling option, parallel port, which on the printer side . . . has that ancient SCSI-looking plug that I hadn't seen in like fifteen years.  WTF?  But our supply of extra computer crap is so old that we actually had that cable.  :eyeroll:

Install drivers.  The Wizard wants a CD we don't have.  Google it.  No one has it.  Apparently no one ever did.  HP says download the drivers; the link they have doesn't work.  Download generic drivers.  [gloss over forty minutes of cursing, downloading, installing] 

Windows says the printer is installed!  It does not show up as an available printer.  FFS.

Etc, etc.  Wait, I got it!  Test page prints!  Wordpad prints!  QuickBooks does not recognize the printer.  Uh, what happened?  Now nothing will print.  THAT WAS QUICK.

We gave up.  For now.  The downside is that we can't use the checking account until we get this working.  The upside is . . . fuck it, for now.

I blame HP a lot for this, because it is farking crazy, and this printer is not that old.  Get this shit together.  But I blame MS more, because the whole Windows thing is so utterly stupid.  And why is dealing with print queues as broken now as it was like twenty-five years ago.  FIX IT OR GIVE UP AND CLOSE SHOP.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on March 12, 2014, 09:21:07 PM
Printers are evil. I think I've mentioned this.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on March 13, 2014, 07:02:50 PM
Downloads from HP's website are fucked quite a lot lately.  I've gotten in the habit of googling the exact file name (like "hp6798312.exe") and finding one of the alternate FTP mirrors. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 14, 2014, 01:53:38 PM
I tried that, but of course it asks for one after another after another after another, and jesus that gets tiresome.

The bookkeeper tried one of the exact same things we'd already tried, as far as she could tell, but it worked, so I have stopped caring.

UNTIL NEXT TIME.

Seriously, though, can't they put the drivers in firmware inside the printer, or something?  WTF is this Plug & Play bullshit?  All we want to do is print shit.  The printer doesn't need to do a lot of hard math.  Generic drivers ought to work for 90% of users.  Flip a table.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 16, 2014, 01:41:58 PM
My new ThinkPad has two USB ports.  Well, it has what looks like a third sideways-mounted one on the other side, but it's slightly different, whatever it is.  (Refurbished ThinkPad came without documentation, and I keep forgetting to look for it online.)  This is my main Linux machine.

The top USB port works great.  Turns out the bottom one is flaky.  I plugged in my big backup drive, a Western Digital 80 GB external hard drive.  Drive found!  Drive lost!  Drive found!  Drive lost!  Fuck!

Yep, it erased about half the directories (which is to say, they vanished or abruptly became empty), to the tune of a little over 30 GB of stuff.  Tons of backups, a huge ton of MP3s I made from my CDs or bought individually, a whole bunch of stuff.  A lot of which I stupidly don't seem to have other copies of, which is my own fault.  Unfortunately, I don't still have some of the CDs I'd ripped -- I lose CDs fairly frequently (:shrug:), which is the whole reason I make MP3 backups.

I'm more mad about the issue than the actual lost data.  This is far from the first time I've had this problem with a USB port.  SCSI drives were hot-swappable, and I don't remember ever having this issue with them.  And I don't need USB drives, flash or otherwise, to be so hot-swappable.  I'd much, much, much rather have trustworthy mounting.

Like everybody else, I have a ton of crap to backup, nowadays.  I guess I have to buy a USB DVD-R drive.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 31, 2014, 12:14:52 PM
Dear Google:

I know you guys are always finding fun new ways to make your products worse BUT please, for the love of god, do not place things ON TOP OF the maps at your map site.  Because that would be just terribly, terribly stupid.

Even worse would be to make it so the user can't hide those things at will.  Can you even imagine how stupid that would be?

Sincerely,

All Humans Who Ever Use Maps
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 31, 2014, 05:32:07 PM
Google Maps is broken.

If you google something, say, for example, the hotel you're going to be staying at in Silver Spring in May, bring it up on the map, and then click on the 'transit' button so you can see just how close the Red Line Metro station is, the marker for your previous search disappears.

That is not a feature.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 31, 2014, 11:52:55 PM
I was looking up Turkey today while doing UAT (to prove a point of course) and noticed that image above the map that I couldn't hide.

Why?

Why?

/nancy_kerrigan_earworm
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 01, 2014, 12:18:32 PM
I don't even understand how management at a formerly functional company can have gotten this messed-up without housecleaning.  I know, the bigwigs are all about robots now, but FFS.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 01, 2014, 02:14:53 PM
:hmm: Maybe they saw that when Apple fucked up their mapping so epically a lightning bolt did *not* descend from the heavens and fry them, so like everybody else they decided to imitate Apple and fuck up the map app.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 01, 2014, 03:10:32 PM
Saw this today.  Laughed.

(http://i.imgur.com/lTLnqry.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on April 02, 2014, 03:28:34 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 02, 2014, 07:04:51 PM
:detta:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 19, 2014, 11:57:05 AM
I've been having this mouse issue that's starting to drive me batty. It's like a single click is two clicks. Not a double-click though. So if I click on a link, it might open in two tabs, or if I click in the menu, it will close immediately. Very weird. It would seem like clicking twice that fast would be considered a double-click. There's a double-click speed adjustment, so I could fix that. If I click real slowly, that seems to help, but not always. Batteries are reading as being okay in the mouse. I don't get it  :hmm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 19, 2014, 11:58:28 AM
Sounds . . . like the mouse is defective.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 19, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
But it's only like 10 years old!

 :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: TFJ on April 20, 2014, 08:20:36 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on April 20, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on April 20, 2014, 11:34:22 PM
Sounds . . . like the mouse is defective.  :shrug:

Be careful with your accusations.  Disney might come after you.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 21, 2014, 11:21:38 AM
Everyone does.  I'm a generous lover.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 22, 2014, 03:47:49 PM
Netflix sent me Iron Man 3: The Search for Spock, and the DVD was badly scratched and wouldn't play.

They sent me a replacement, and it was scratched, too, although not as badly.  Wouldn't autoplay.  Tried opening video file through the file manager, and it . . . sort of played.  Scrambled up.  Looked like I was trying to watch something copy-protected in 1994, or something.  Odd.  Sent disk back.

They sent me a third copy, which is pristine.  Same exact issues as disk #2.  Won't play on Linux machine . . . or Windows machine . . . or my DVD player.  It's not Blu-Ray.  Weird format?  Something new and 'improved'?

I went online and found a zillion people complaining about this disk and various others, and people recommending ripping software so the video can be converted to something playable . . . mostly for particular phones.  This isn't a phone, FFS.  My actual DVD player won't play it.

So . . . WTF?  Other disks play fine.  Just not Iron Man 3.  It can't be THAT bad, or the machine would never have played Star Trek Into Darkness Without Punctuation.

:shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 22, 2014, 07:44:49 PM
 :lol:

I dunno. It's been a really long time since I've rented a DVD.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on April 22, 2014, 11:21:19 PM
First thing I think of is if the Region of the DVD is right, but usually the players ask if you want to change Regions. I haven't a clue here.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on April 24, 2014, 11:07:11 PM
My fucking iPhone 4 is acting bizarrely.  OMG, I think I might finally have something relevant to this site.  Anyway, the stupid annoying voice controller keeps popping on for no apparent reason.  I chalked this up to Apple planting bugs in their updates to fuck with people who haven't forked over the money to upgrade yet.  Yeah all those years fighting with M$ and the evil planned obsolescence tactics are wearing off sort of thing.  Anyway it comes on when I'm driving and starts thinking I'm saying call so and so and this is when I'm driving back from the City at 1am after the Anvil concert (yes that Anvil.  Straight outta the 80s).  And I try to kill the thing and it stops momentarily but keeps turning back on.  So this was Tues Night.  Wed I get it doing it even more.  It will turn on music at random times while the phone is locked in my pocket.  Pretty fucking embarrassing at work since I'm in a conference room with many other people, on con-calls, etc.  So last night I restore the phone and it's even worse.  My conspiracy generator (aka, brane) is now sure that it is a purposeful bug trying to get me to upgrade to a iPhone 5 (same reason they don't read the serial numbers of lost/stolen phones.  This way they get to sell another one to the victim and the thieves/findors get a new wireless plan so it's collusion between the telcos and the hw sellers but that's another complaint).  Back on topic.  So now the home button thingy on the phone isn't working but the voice control keeps on coming on.  So now I think that maybe the phone has served its useful life and the button is worn out and I really do need to replace the phone.  Not that I can afford to replace it or anything and it's probably still planned obsolescence but of a hardware variety and not a "software update" .  Anyway Apple is really annoying in that you can't eliminate any of their apps.  Just the ones that other people develop.  Also in settings you can't turn crap off like all the phone home crap like iTunes store.  So if I disable all this from cellular so I don't get data overages.  I get this annoying pop-up letting me know that cellular is disabled for iTunes store so I need to go to settings to turn it on.  But that's another rant.

So back to the voice control and home button issue.  What do you think?  Evil plot? or should I just suck it up and replace my phone? 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on April 25, 2014, 01:48:39 AM
take it to the apple store "geniuses".

honestly, this is coming from a person who thinks that the people that work at the apple store are idiots. they may be great people and, who knows, my future wife may work there, but, they don't know dick.

they'll pretty much replace it.

they do bend over backwards to help and when they can't (which is often) they'll replace it for free or for a small fee if it's a little older.

then again, i could be totally wrong.

this post holds no explicit warranty.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on April 25, 2014, 02:31:15 AM
I received about 4 of the old iPod classics that way.  But they were still relatively new.  This is an old iPhone 4 that I got for free from a fanboy friend who always buys the new model when it comes out.  So I assume it's at least several years old.  But I guess it's worth a try. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on April 27, 2014, 04:48:03 AM
Home button ist kaputt.  Now I have an iPhone 5c to replace it.  I'm still suspicious of Apple though.  At least it was only $200 with the two year contract credit thingy. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 30, 2014, 07:33:58 AM
My 10 year old mouse may still be okay. I tried my 9 year old mouse and it did the same thing. j/k, I don't know how old either one of them are, but they are old.

It turns out I was adjusting the double-click speed in the wrong direction  :redface:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 30, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
This about sums it all up (https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1403_02-08_mickens.pdf).

Long, tiny print, worth it. I laughed until I cried.
(via Ixtapica on metafilter)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 01, 2014, 06:24:30 AM
Quote
I could go on and on about the reasons why JavaScript is a
cancer upon the world. I know that there are people who like
JavaScript, and I hope that these people find the mental health
services that they so desperately need. I don’t know all of the
answers in life, but I do know all of the things which aren’t
the answers, and JavaScript falls into the same category as
Scientology, homeopathic medicine, and making dogs wear tiny
sweaters due to a misplaced belief that this is what dogs would
do if they had access to looms and opposable thumbs.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 01, 2014, 09:08:53 AM
I don't know that guy, but I like him.

I didn't have time to read the whole thing (and I hate f$cking PDFs!!!!!), but I liked and agreed with all the bits I did read.  That's, like, amazing.  :lol:

I was just whining about this on Fbook the other day.  The best things about HTML were:

- platform independent

- intuitive hypertext

- user-format of content

All of which has pretty much gone away on major websites.  It's like the Windows pursuit of 50% Bad AOL interface and 50% Stupid User Command Line interface.  And The Butt and Flash turning our insanely powerful computers into dumb terminals. 

The world of computing is regressing as hard as it can.  It's like we're literally trying to emulate everything that was wrong with computing in 1990.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 01, 2014, 08:06:37 PM
You mean that's not you?   :nuts:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on May 01, 2014, 10:52:22 PM
I didn't think Axe would be able to discuss type coercion without notes.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on May 02, 2014, 03:04:18 AM
Hate Java. I have one SaaS app that insists on 6 and one that insists on 7.  I have to uninstall 7 everytime I want to use the one that requires 6.  Oh and I have to use IE for that one.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 02, 2014, 12:34:40 PM
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You mean that's not you?

:lol:

That guy is way more organized than I am.  Also more published and successful.


When Java was new, and people were telling me about it, I was pretty excited -- it sounded like a lot of the things I'd always said programming should be like but wasn't.  But every time I've actually done anything with any Java software, I've been miserably disappointed, except for one trebuchet simulator that could just as easily have been written in anything else.

Flash seems to be the new Java, anyway, from the user point of view.  Not saying that's a good thing, but, oh, well.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on May 02, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
JavaScript isn't Java. They're barely related.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 02, 2014, 03:34:14 PM
We can still complain about them, though.  A lot of people I dislike probably aren't closely related, either.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on May 03, 2014, 12:38:11 AM
I'll complain about Larry Ellison whenever I want!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 04, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
My Nexus 7 tablet has a lockscreen widget that cannot be disabled.

Settings=>Security=>Enable widgets=>uncheck.

Lock the screen and there's the fucking clock.

Long press on clock=>drag it to "remove"

Lock the screen and there's the fucking clock

Settings=>Apps=>All=>Clock=>Disable

Lock the screen and there's the fucking clock

Install an Android app ("Lockscreen Policy") that was specifically written to deal with this stupidity.

Lock the screen and there's the fucking clock

:banghead:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 19, 2014, 08:46:28 AM
Quote
You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website.

You have removed any chance of me turning JS on.  I mean, really, "utilize the functionality of"?  I'm done with the whole website.

:stfu:

It's a big internet.  There are lots of other websites out there.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 07, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
Imgur seems to have changed something, and now about half of their pages don't load the images for me in Opera without JS turned on.  They still work in Chrome, but of course those pages are horrible in Chrome.

Changing the URL by adding "i." at the front and ".jpg" at the end no longer produces the standalone image but redirects to the non-working page, now.

Well . . . I don't need to see Imgur pages that badly.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 11, 2014, 06:44:59 PM
I'd just like to say again that the new Google Maps is utter shit.  It's so useless that after twenty minutes I gave up and plotted my trip using actual paper maps. 

The current Google Maps gave me the stupidest directions I've ever seen, including waypoints that used towns that either apparently don't exist (Western, OH) or aren't actually anywhere near where I'm going (Liberty and Orwell, OH, which do not, in fact, have I-77 running through them). 

FAIL.  It also got street names wrong and spelled Charlotte, NC, as "Chalottte".  FFS.  And the actual maps are total crap now.  Just not worth the trouble.

I went to MapQuest, out of curiosity, and the site is a little better than Google Maps, but it's still choking in crap you aren't actually going to want that prevents you from just getting usable directions.  Un-entertainingly, it differs from Google Maps about the trip time -- 11.5 hours vs 10 hours.  Kind of a big difference for the same route.  I don't trust either one.

FINE.  I still know how to use paper maps.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 12, 2014, 02:01:49 PM
I'd just like to say again that the new Google Maps is utter shit. 

Concur
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on June 12, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
in accordance with prophecy.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on June 12, 2014, 09:56:24 PM
I'd just like to say again that the new Google Maps is utter shit. 

Concur
Yup.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 14, 2014, 03:00:55 PM
It's even worse when you keep clearing their cookies so it asks you if you want to see how lovely it is each time.

The 3D thing is kind of cool though, I'll give them that. It's screwed up, but occasionally it's helpful.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on June 16, 2014, 12:13:39 PM
very occasionally

i do floor plans for the strip property pools and the satellite maps used to be helpful to see things that weren't in my CAD files. now it's only in 3D and i have to maneuver around the whole building.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 16, 2014, 04:14:46 PM
I wouldn't expect it to work very well in LV. Urban areas are where it performs the worst. It does fairly well with natural settings, like if you wanted to look at an area you were considering hiking through, to get an idea of how hilly it was going to be. For urban 3D, I would try Bing Bird's Eye, which... yeah, other issues.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 17, 2014, 11:16:02 AM
For the record:

Had to use the Google directions a few times, for stuff that I couldn't figure out from the paper maps I had available.

As it turned out, Google routed me through downtown Columbus.  I'd forgotten how often Google Maps puts you through city streets that are highways only in name, instead of keeping you on actual highways.  And Google was quite wrong about the roads in Columbus.  This led to an extra fifty-five minutes of driving around Columbus. 

Then I spent more than forty minutes just driving by the sun (well, I also had a compass) once I got out of Columbus.  Because I was not going to turn around and drive around Columbus some more.  Eventually I found a Route Whatever that took me far enough to hook up with the next actual highway.

On a side note:  Ohio has even worse signage than Michigan.  This didn't shock me, since I've lived in Ohio, but it remains disappointing.  Also, why do so many states hate to tell you how to get to the interstate?  Ohio, in particular, seems determined to prevent you from leaving.  Ohio, this only makes people WANT to get the hell out.  But anytime you are approaching a ring road (eg, 270), signs should tell you which direction to get on to more quickly reach the main highway (ie, 270 W to I-70 S).  So you won't end up driving the long way around.  NB, road designers!


Google did get the fiddly directions to the house correct.  Go figure!  But, as in many cases, the distances were wrong.  Not as wrong as they were in Michigan, although fortunately I knew not to drive 40 miles into Lake Huron.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 03, 2014, 02:42:21 PM
Really.  REALLY.  Is it too much to ask for an email system that differentiates between New mail and Unread mail?

I had that functionality in DOS email programs, FFS.  Learn about technology, Google, you twits.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 03, 2014, 02:46:05 PM
Here's another general one:  How about if we don't have any subjective "security question" topics?

"What is your dream car?"  Let's see . . . I created this account six years ago, so . . . JESUS F CHRIST how do I know WTF I put here?  AND of course I have to type it in the exact same way.

(I usually give the same nonsense answer to all of these questions, now, since it's equally hard to guess it but far easier to remember it.  But I hadn't started doing that six years ago.  ALAS.)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on July 03, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
I'm always tempted to put in "FirstAnswer", etc. to those...
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 03, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
I know, RIGHT?  Yet another crap security system that trains people to game it because it's such a stupid system.

I just created a new online account at my dental insurance place.  Oh, no, you can't have spaces or non-alphanumeric characters.  Must be at least twelve characters, one uppercase, one lowercase, and one numeral.

That's a shit system you have there.  But it makes life more difficult for customers, support, and IT, so you've got that going for you.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 03, 2014, 09:16:50 PM
Just put taintgobbler as the answer to all of them.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 03, 2014, 11:14:44 PM
I know, RIGHT?  Yet another crap security system that trains people to game it because it's such a stupid system.

I just created a new online account at my dental insurance place.  Oh, no, you can't have spaces or non-alphanumeric characters.  Must be at least twelve characters, one uppercase, one lowercase, and one numeral.

That's a shit system you have there.  But it makes life more difficult for customers, support, and IT, so you've got that going for you.

Fidelity Netbenefits site (which my employer uses) is the same way.  Can't make the password any longer than 12 characters, doesn't allow special characters... in other words, a site which stores customer financial data, including social security numbers doesn't allow secure passwords.

I told them to fully disable all website access for my account, so that an online account cannot even be created. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 05, 2014, 09:34:20 AM
Exactly.  Corporate ineptitude has rendered online security a moot point.  You hear about a big company getting hacked, and it's like . . . wow, no, I can't believe it, how shocking.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 05, 2014, 11:52:39 AM
Automatically generated email from Amazon:

Quote
Your estimated delivery date is:
Wednesday, July 9, 2014

Your guaranteed delivery date is:
Monday, July 7, 2014

Same order, same item, same email.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 05, 2014, 05:06:11 PM
 :whatever:   :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 08, 2014, 03:33:20 PM
I really hate it when software offers to let you "copy link location" when they mean "copy link".  You're not copying the link's location.  Don't fucking say that.  It's an extra word, it's not a more readable phrase, and it's just fucking wrong.  A good example of breaking a perfectly functional UI.

It's caught on, and it shouldn't have.  Software design appears to be dead.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on July 08, 2014, 04:24:52 PM
For me, it makes :twocents:. The link and the URI aren't the same thing to me - one is an object (file?) and the other is text. :shrug: One of the ways to incite a very fierce conversation among some circles is to mix and match a name and what the name references, or state that they're identical. That the URI points to something else completely only adds to the fun.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 08, 2014, 05:19:34 PM
Maybe I'm confused now.

Typically, a link in a page is visibly (textually) either a URL or anchor text, and hypertextually a URL.  Some browsers allow you to right-click / context-select plain text, but generally you have to select (highlight) it first.  At the moment I can't think of a common HTML hyperlink that isn't going to be a URL / URI.

If you right-click on a linked URL or anchor text and select "copy link", what else would you be copying?  The anchor text?  That wouldn't make sense; even if you wanted to do that, "copy link" would be an abysmally bad label for that action.  With current browsers, you wouldn't be copying the target file, either.  The URL / hyperlink address are the only logical targets I can see.

Certainly, you can argue that there's a distinction between the name of a thing and the thing itself.  Unless you're arguing with a classical gnostic or something, I'm not sure who would argue against that.  But a hyperlink is a hyperlink.  Isn't it?

In any case, for typical use, I think my objection stands.  Although of course I entertain debate.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on July 08, 2014, 05:58:02 PM
On Windows you can have a file that's a hyperlink; the file extension is .url. It's sort of silly really, but it's there. I know a few users that rely on those files being on their desktops. HTTP, HTTPS, MailTo, LDAP are the protocols I see most often now, but Z39.50 (library), News, FTP and SNMP were around when I started using Netscape Navigator.

We use SharePoint (SP, a content management system) at work, and the URL is almost nothing like the anchor text. The URLs are ... messy. But I do copy both at times when I'm making documents for folks. There's also often a cleaner looking URL for documents (based off the bread crumb navigation).

In my head when you right click a link, you should be able to save a copy of the site to a file. Nobody's asked me, though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 08, 2014, 06:25:17 PM
Surely the file is the target, not the link.  If not, they should change the jargon to reflect that.  Pop-up text ('mouse-over', et al) could be construed as both the link content and the link itself, kinda sorta, but otherwise . . . if the link loads something other than the page you're on, that something other is the target, not the link.

Having the option to right-click and download the target, though -- yeah, that's both a logical and useful option.  BUT most browsers nowadays are awful and keep everything 'live', due to terrible trends in bad web design.  :P 

One thing I still vastly, vastly prefer about Opera is its ability to actually cache shit and use that cache.  If I'm on a page in Opera, and I click a link, then hit Back, it reloads that last page from the cache instead of downloading it all over again.  (Or WTF is the cache FOR, anyway?)  If I have the settings right, and I'm not using a screwed-up version of Opera, it does that even if the page wants me to reload it so I'll get a new ad.  (Fuck you; set up your ads and ad revenue streams properly.)

In Chrome, the Back command is an exercise in despair.  :thumbsdn:  I have to always always always remember to open all links in new tabs instead, so I don't have to reload my starting page.  Hypertext fail.  And Chrome is fairly crappy at handling more than a few tabs at a time.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 09, 2014, 12:52:18 AM
it should say, "copy url".

plain and simple.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 09, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
Yep, that'd work for me.  I realize not everyone who uses a browser knows what a URL is, but they're going to have to learn what "link location" is supposed to mean, anyway.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 23, 2014, 05:11:41 PM
I suppose it's pointless to complain about Hotmail, but . . . on every machine and every browser I can try, Hotmail no longer allows you to scroll horizontally.  This kind of sucks, since about 50% of the emails I get at my Hotmail account are wider than the display window.

Keep hitting it out of the park, MS.

I guess they call it Outlook now, but it's really still the bastardized MS Hotmail.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 23, 2014, 08:06:39 PM
I haven't noticed that.

The thing that bugs me the most about Hotmail is when it refreshes the page out of the blue. Does that happen to you?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 24, 2014, 09:18:30 AM
Fortunately, no.

Frankly, I really, really, really hate the 'live' web page design.  There's virtually no web page that, as a user, I want to have 'live'.  I want to download a document and/or multimedia content.  If I wanted to tune into a program, I would want to use a separate application to do that.  Almost every time a web page updates itself without my direction, I didn't want it to do that. 

That includes the majority of instances where I revisit a page, which is why I vastly prefer a browser that can be set to reload from the cache, period, unless I refresh the page.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 24, 2014, 06:24:22 PM
Frankly, I really, really, really hate the 'live' web page design.  There's virtually no web page that, as a user, I want to have 'live'.

"Live" web design has led to many an instance of "WHAT THE FUCK? I WASN'T DONE READING THAT YET!!!!!!!!!" :banghead: with me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 25, 2014, 11:16:31 AM
I also deeply despise when I click on something, and then the webpage 'updates' and moves the content in front of me, and somehow I've retroactively clicked on something else.

That's probably 75% the browser's fault, but GET IT TOGETHER.

On a related note:

I understand it's a pain in the ass to put image sizes into the HTML.  Maybe they should be encoded right into the beginning of the image file format's text.  Back in the day, the Netcom browser would draw in empty frames for the images as it rendered text, so that the text wouldn't move as the images were loaded.

Can you imagine how much better current webpages would be if the same thing were done for images and ads?  I realize some ads intentionally move the content, to get your attention, and if your web design lets them do that, you're the lowest sort of whore.

Also:  Autoplay video.  Fuck you.

If you're not interested in letting me control the rendering of the content I download, then I don't want your fucking content, and I'm not impressed with the browser, either.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 25, 2014, 11:34:37 AM
or you start reading an article and an image loads 30 seconds later and the whole page shifts.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 25, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
Yeah that is something that CSS broke, you have to accept it now. ;)



Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 25, 2014, 12:59:13 PM
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you have to accept it now

Fuck that.  Dr Manhattan can vaporize me, but I never give up on principles that are this important.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 25, 2014, 09:14:16 PM
No, that's something that is mostly a Firefox thing.  Firefox loads a page and then shifts content as images load.  Chrome doesn't do that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 25, 2014, 10:20:06 PM
bullshit

chrome does it all the time on my machines, both mac and pc.

chrome on my mac at work is the biggest piece of shit in the world, yet, for some reason i still use it. i don't have java installed, so maybe that causes a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 25, 2014, 11:45:19 PM
I have never encountered that in Chrome, on Windows, Linux, or Chrome OS.  Admittedly, I haven't tried it on Mac.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 26, 2014, 09:52:38 AM
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chrome does it all the time on my machines

Yeah, me too.  Maybe there's a plug-in I should install?

Right now, most of the time in the browser wars, I'm mad at the later versions of Opera ignoring settings to always do this or never do that.  Options that USED to work.  Most frequently annoying are the visited / unvisited links color settings.  It now lets webpages override my settings for this even though it isn't supposed to, and lots of websites nowadays think it's best if you don't know if you've already followed a link -- possibly because they get ad revenue again if you revisit a page.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 26, 2014, 10:36:19 AM
 :lol:  It's actually one of the things that, whenever I try Firefox again, makes me say "NOPE, this is too annoying to go back to!".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 26, 2014, 11:09:02 AM
I don't know if we're actually becoming a culture of passive gluttons of whatever content happens to fall into our mouths, or if developers are just 50% corrupt and 50% stupid.  But so much of what goes on with the internet these days is the exact equivalent of fighting with me when I'm changing the radio station.

It's my fucking radio.  You don't touch the controls unless I say it's OK.

It's one of the damned basic principles of hypertext, anyway:  The user controls how content is rendered.  If these people made eReaders, they'd all display all text in red 10-pt Papyrus with no paragraph breaks, and you wouldn't be able to change it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 26, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
or you start reading an article and an image loads 30 seconds later and the whole page shifts.

I don't think I've ever seen this in Firefox. Probably due to extensions, like NoScript or AdBlock.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 26, 2014, 01:48:45 PM
I don't know if we're actually becoming a culture of passive gluttons of whatever content happens to fall into our mouths, or if developers are just 50% corrupt and 50% stupid. 

In many situations, not just this one, you are now forced to either take it or leave it, there are no alternatives, middle ground, user adjustments or options. It seems like there are more things like that than there used to be, or it may just be me becoming a grumpier old man.

They release a beta on the latest version of OSX this week, and I dread it. I used to look forward to new OS... a long time ago. One of the things I find humorous about the changes the Mac OS has been through is that the icons started as very simple objects, but with later designs, they became more detailed and realistic and shiny. But then since the development of Mac software for their smartphone and tablets, the icons for desktop OS are now being forced to move back to dull simple objects to be consistent with the display capabilities of of the smaller displays. Maybe humorous is not the word I was looking for.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 26, 2014, 01:58:34 PM
I like my icons very plain and simple, but I wouldn't want to be forced to have plain and simple ones.


On an unrelated note, Chrome has improved (on both of the machines I typically use at work) and now will load and render stuff in background tabs and windows at a reasonable speed.  I assume this is the result of an update, but who knows?  Previously, if you had something trying to load in a background tab, for instance, it would never actually draw the page until you brought that tab to the front.  But now it works.

Well . . . OK.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 26, 2014, 02:52:41 PM
:lol:  It's actually one of the things that, whenever I try Firefox again, makes me say "NOPE, this is too annoying to go back to!".

Now that cloud-to-butt has an extension for Chrome I may never go back to FF. Need NoScript, though. NEED.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 27, 2014, 10:21:02 AM
Seriously, being able to easily toggle JavaScript on and off is a make-or-break for me.  Since I use Chrome for multimedia sites and so on, it would also need to let me toggle Flash, etc, on and off. 

Although I do wish Opera let you toggle these for just one tab, or at least just one window.  Just one window would be great, in fact.

:hmm:

I'm not sure if I can run multiple instances of Opera, or if, I can, if it would work well.  Or run different versions of Opera at the same time.  Seems like a pain in the ass workaround, though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 03, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
Virgin Mobile (http://www.virginmobileusa.com) refuses to allow customers to secure their own information.

In what universe do these guys live in where 6-digit numeric-only passwords are enough to keep customer data secure?

:banghead:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 03, 2014, 01:55:19 PM
Yep.  If someone guesses or intercepts the 6-digit PIN they gave me, which I can't even change, they have free access to my credit card.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 08, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
EVERY time Windows tells me it can't eject a USB device because the device is busy, I want to punch Microsoft in the dick.  UNBUSY IT.

Mint never ever gives me a problem with this.  Ever.  With Windows, it's like 25% of the time, usually for no apparent reason -- it's not like Windows would tell you why it thinks it can't do that, Dave -- and about half of the time when it does that . . . it never self-resolves.  So do I just yank out the drive and risk corrupting it?  Sometimes I shut the machine down first.  Which, with Windows, is always a pain in the ass.

Effing incompetents.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
Fully 50% of my experience with Chrome:

"Chrome, stop loading this page.  Stop.  No, stop.  No, don't start up again -- I told you to stop.  Stop.  Staaaaaap.  Fuck it, I'll just close the page."

:harumph:

Either I'm the user, or I'm just being used.  Pick one and don't bullshit me about it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 20, 2014, 08:39:43 AM
I installed an iTunes update 3 days ago, and it's sort of like an intro to the new GUI in Yosemite. The new design is not horrible, but it's not enough of an improvement to warrant change, IMO.

Then today, I noticed the icon had changed from blue to red. WTF? What the hell is wrong with these people? Do they not understand the basic rules of design? An application millions of people have been using for 13 years, and you just arbitrarily change the icon to virtually the opposite color?

I'd really like to visit their design lab and have a chat with some of their people.  :stick:

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 20, 2014, 08:47:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/QXD1cZd.png)

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 20, 2014, 08:59:27 AM
People get paid to visibly do stuff, not to leave well enough alone.  If they can't think of something better to do, or can't get something better approved, they'll do something worse just to make it obvious that they're doing something.

Management is basically a myth.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 20, 2014, 09:43:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/QXD1cZd.png)

 :rolleyes:
Hooray for incremental changes which make no difference in your actual product! At least they did make a good move in getting rid of the optical disc in the background, since almost nobody who's using iTunes is actually using discs these days.

Also: I wonder how much the change is impacted by A: the merger with Beats, and B: Samsung's Milk music icon, which has a similar coloring, though no strong resemblance in shape otherwise. Apple's shading is more subtle, but it's there.

Edit: here we go:
(http://www.samsung.com/us/showcase/milk/img/logo.png)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 20, 2014, 10:05:40 AM
*obligatory "this never woulda happened if steve was alive" thing*
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 20, 2014, 10:42:45 AM
The excuse is "to match iOS". Why it was designed to be red in iOS, I have no idea, but my guess would be to differentiate from Safari, which is [currently] blue. That's the whole impetus behind all of the GUI change - "to match iOS".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 20, 2014, 11:00:41 AM
I just went through that update and ... ta daaa, Firefox is missing from the Dock and my X11 defaults have been fucked with. Wow, Apple, you chodes, way to fscking alienate your customers.

I'm hating a lot of this stuff. I want my computer to be more like a computer and less like a phone, thanks. Is that so hard? Are we learning from Microsoft again? Remember how well that worked last time?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 20, 2014, 11:09:06 AM
It does seem like things took a turn for the worse when Jobs died. Hard to believe he was holding things together in his last few years, but I believe it more and more with every new announcement or change.

I should add there may be changes beyond the UI on iTunes, but I wouldn't know, since basically all I use it for is to turn internet radio on and off and switch channels.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 20, 2014, 11:37:35 AM
Well, hey, at least they're still making money hand over asshole, right? Isn't that what really counts? Right?

Buncha overpriced products anyways. Glad I've been such a miser and gone with Android. And to stave off the obligatory: Yes, I know, Android has it's own significant list of problems. It's still cheaper.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 20, 2014, 01:28:26 PM
That's what I tell myself about Linux every day.  But, seriously, for whatever reasons, the problems I have with my Linux machine just make me shrug and restart.  It never pisses me off.

Part of that is probably that it takes like 20 seconds to restart.  Part of it is the nearly no-promises lack of hype.  Mostly, I think, it's that I keep remembering that I'm not using Windows.  It is a balm to the soul.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 20, 2014, 08:14:51 PM
People get paid to visibly do stuff, not to leave well enough alone.  If they can't think of something better to do, or can't get something better approved, they'll do something worse just to make it obvious that they're doing something.

I don't consider myself a "resistant to change" type; if I were, I'd still be running Windows 2000 instead of Linux and/or a Chromebook, for fuck's sake.

But even as a forward-thinking technologist, I consider change to UI without specific purpose to be detrimental.

Have. A. Reason. To. Change. Shit.

If it's change for the sake of change, go fuck yourself.  There needs to be compelling reason to change things.  Advantages.  Efficiencies.  Hell, I'm even fine with aesthetic changes if they improve things -- but the aesthetic change can't interfere with functionality.

That's one of the things that's put me off of Apple's operating systems pretty much since OS X.  They are so wrapped up in aesthetics that I actually can't figure out how to use the goddamned things.

And I've been using computers in just about every form since I was 7 or 8, and I do it for a living. 

I was about to apologize for the rant, but I realized I'm in the "Endless Complaining" thread, so it stands.   :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 20, 2014, 08:19:44 PM
That's what I tell myself about Linux every day.  But, seriously, for whatever reasons, the problems I have with my Linux machine just make me shrug and restart.  It never pisses me off.

Part of that is probably that it takes like 20 seconds to restart.  Part of it is the nearly no-promises lack of hype.  Mostly, I think, it's that I keep remembering that I'm not using Windows.  It is a balm to the soul.

You hit the nail on the head, and I am ever so glad to see you say that, given your experiences with technology.

The Linux universe is not perfect (and neither is the Android one, Phyre, I'm right with you there).  But it has so much more going for it if you use it for a while.  The frustration level is significantly lower for me.

The fact that it's free -- both as in beer and as in freedom -- make me feel good, too.  Good enough that I throw whatever Linux distro I'm currently using (for the last few years Linux Mint) $50 - $60 a year via Paypal donation because I feel it's good value to help pay for the development of something out of which I get so much enjoyment and practical use.

As someone who has to use Windows (and support it) where I work, and who uses almost exclusively Linux at home, I continually find it stunning how much better thought out and cohesive an experience Linux is by comparison -- and I don't have to pay a dime for it.

That alone tells me just how fucking dysfunctional Microsoft is.  When the most powerful, richest software company in the world makes something that feels like all the major parts of it were designed by different committees who had no contact with each other (read some Windows 8 reviews, if you haven't actually used Windows 8 yourself), and a free desktop environment on top of a free operating system, fueled by a free kernel feels like a better user experience... you know you're in trouble.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on October 20, 2014, 09:02:22 PM
apple and adobe can eat a big bowl of dicks.

i still have to use it, but they can still eat one.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 20, 2014, 10:28:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT7xc_XqYO8
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 21, 2014, 07:41:06 AM
Like a bag of chicken parts  :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 21, 2014, 09:16:17 AM
:lol:


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But even as a forward-thinking technologist, I consider change to UI without specific purpose to be detrimental.

This is exactly right.  You don't swap the gas and brake pedals just to be Fresh.  Not unless you're a tremendous asshole.


Every time I have a problem with Mint / Cinnamon that's due to something that feels amateurish, it's completely forgiveable.  Shareware is the same way, you know?  But when Microsoft does something atrociously stupid for no good reason, it's either amateurishness that isn't forgiveable or it's something they specifically did for a bad reason.  And that's not easily forgiveable.

Of course, part of the issue there is that Windows has not aged well.  If I'm still using Mint in ten years, and it's really gone downhill . . . actually, I'll still be able to run the current version without a problem, I bet, which, again, not so much with Windows.

Some of it's just the difference between trying to make something that's good and useful vs trying to capture market share.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 21, 2014, 11:52:01 AM
Speaking of Microsoft being deeply stupid (http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/21/technology/enterprise/microsoft-ceo-nadella-women-pay/index.html).

What is with this guy?  What does he think his job is supposed to be?  $84 million a year for one media disaster after another?  OK, failing miserably at releasing the name of your next major product . . . actually, that's pretty bad.  But at least it was relevant to his job. 

Constantly saying stupid things about what women get paid . . . just shut up, man.  Or quit.  They're not paying you $84 million a year just to make the company look bad.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 28, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
Finally got around to buying a new mouse today. Yeah, I know. Anyway, I got lucky and stumbled on one that was 50% off, so that was good. Problem is, it doesn't work. It's a Logitech, which is what I've used for years, but it's also also known for not working well with Macs, and their customer service is almost non-existent. One suggestion in their forums was to install the latest version of their Logic Control Center, which had no effect. Rebooted a couple times, checked to make sure all the correct files and versions were installed, still no go. The mouse works, but it's supposed to have preference adjustments. The system won't recognize it - "device not found", yet it is clearly connecting wirelessly to the system. Bleh. I'm not up for a fight today, maybe tomorrow.

So I just reconnected my 10+ year-old mouse, and it works well enough to get by.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 29, 2014, 06:48:16 AM
So apparently this model does not work with Macs, even though it has a Mac logo on the package  :huh:

Their line is, well it does work with Macs, it just doesn't have full functionality like it does on Windows, or like our older models, or like our more expensive models.

Bastards. Now I have to drive all the way back up there and return the thing and find something else.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 29, 2014, 08:57:50 AM
That's a crock of shit.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 30, 2014, 11:53:49 AM
Yeah, but I'm a cheap bastard too. The model that has the old features is only like $10 more. I spent a couple hours researching a solution online yesterday, and was even considering shareware that was $20 with a $10 fee every time it was updated. :rolleyes:

Finding out it didn't work when I got home is what pissed me off so much - the misrepresentation / lack of clarity.

I've had two of their mice that have lasted over 10 years each, and were almost as cheap, or in some cases even cheaper than the competition. I really shouldn't complain.

However, :P   I can't seem to get this new one to feel the same as the old one. I'm thinking about polishing the bottom of it to make is slide around a little easier.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 30, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
You're not a cheap bastard.  I haven't paid more than $5 for a mouse since . . . well, not in the last ten years, certainly.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 30, 2014, 02:17:40 PM
Just because you're more of a cheap bastard than I am doesn't mean I'm not a cheap bastard  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 30, 2014, 06:26:29 PM
A friend of mine has one of these (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AXVM6E/ref=cfb_at_prodpg).  I was pretty impressed by it while at a party at his house last weekend, so I ordered one for myself.

It arrived today.  It came with a UK power adapter and an EU power adapter.  That's it.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 30, 2014, 09:39:24 PM
Well I guess you'll be moving to the UK now, right?

I'm still using these (http://www.amazon.com/Altec-Lansing-ATP3-3-Piece-Speaker/dp/B00004XRED/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t), which I think I got back in the last century or so. Still sound great.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 30, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
Oddly I just discussed moving to the UK with my wife.  So I could use these speakers.  We decided -- somewhat narrowly -- that that shouldn't be the only reason.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 30, 2014, 11:12:38 PM
:hmm:

Well there's the National Health.

And the footy.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on October 31, 2014, 06:30:54 AM
A friend of mine has one of these (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AXVM6E/ref=cfb_at_prodpg).  I was pretty impressed by it while at a party at his house last weekend, so I ordered one for myself.

It arrived today.  It came with a UK power adapter and an EU power adapter.  That's it.  :whatever:
I've been pretty impressed by the sound my little Jawbone Bluetooth speaker produces; it's surprising for such a small package. I'm a little surprised that Amazon sent you the European version, knowing where you live. They'll let you return it, no?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 31, 2014, 08:36:49 PM
It was a 3rd party vendor via Amazon, located in KENTUCKY.  :nuts: 

The vendor had no way to remediate issues other than to return for a refund.  So I went through Amazon and they refunded 35% of the purchase price (which is more than enough for me to buy a separate power adapter for it).

Amazon is always good in my experience for "filling in a gap" when you get boned by a stupid 3rd party.  Makes this kind of thing more of an inconvenience than anything else.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 02, 2014, 12:18:36 PM
DST Update Success Log:

Virgin Mobile phone -- updated at 11:40 AM

Windows -- took until noon

AT&T phone system -- changed to 35 minutes ahead instead :shrug:

globalpayments bizarro credit card machine -- doesn't change automatically.  Changing the time manually is a very peculiar process but not that hard and fairly entertaining.

Linux machine -- updated on its own at 2 AM without an internet connection, amazingly


I leave my clocks at home alone.  Screw it -- it's one hour off.  I can do the math.  The clock on my bedroom wall stays on regular time, so I have a nice balance going.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 03, 2014, 08:26:45 AM
I wish we could just stick with DST all year. My machine was frozen yesterday morning when I went to get on it. I don't know if it was DST related for sure, but looking at the logs, there were some errors at 1:00:01 AM that repeated about 50 times.


Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 03, 2014, 08:30:54 AM
Video  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBma82g3Uag&feature=youtu.be)from reddit of Jobs prophesying the demise of Apple. A bit hypocritical, coming from Mr. Sales himself, but the sentiment is in the spirit of this thread.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on November 03, 2014, 12:51:30 PM
I keep my car clock set to standard, so it's correct now.  The reason I do this is so I can stay pissed off for 8 months of the year about having to get up an hour earlier.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 03, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Good man.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 03, 2014, 11:37:21 PM
I keep my car clock set to standard, so it's correct now.  The reason I do this is so I can stay pissed off for 8 months of the year about having to get up an hour earlier.

I love this righteous rage.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 30, 2014, 03:27:11 PM
Dear Every Stupid Email Service:

Don't just replace email addresses with spoof names -- eg, the corporate name instead of the actual freaking address.  Not on incoming or outgoing mail.  I want to see where mail's actually allegedly coming from and where it's going.  If you want to display both the spoof and the actual address, fine, but if you're only going to do one, do the actual address.

Similarly, if you're going to cut off the subject line, then the full subject better appear when I hover the cursor over it.  Or else don't cut it off.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 30, 2014, 04:12:34 PM
Guys. A fucking Microsoft Bing camera car just drove past my house.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 30, 2014, 04:15:12 PM
Guys. A fucking Microsoft Bing camera car just drove past my house.

(https://i.imgur.com/i7UdsSl.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 30, 2014, 04:44:13 PM
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A fucking Microsoft Bing camera car just drove past my house.

It didn't crash?  A Microsoft first!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 30, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
Guys. The asshole down the street just crashed his palm-sized video equipped quadcopter in my back yard.

I THINK THESE EVENTS ARE RELATED.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 30, 2014, 06:22:49 PM
 :lol:

And re the email names, I just had to send an email to my BIL, and it showed up as being to Dad.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 01, 2014, 10:24:45 AM
Seriously, drones are rare around here, so far, but if I had one, I'd want one that patroled over my house and captured drones that entered 'my airspace'.  To be sold on eBay.

You're not getting your Frisbee back, either.

Damn kids!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 03, 2014, 10:54:44 AM
This latest update of Chrome has a real fetish for declaring that pages are unresponsive and asking if I want to kill them.

Chrome, that page finished loading like five minutes ago.  It's not even doing anything, as far as I can tell.  What, is some ad trying to update, or something?  It's not like you'd give me any details about WTF is going on. 

It's you I'd like to kill for being unresponsive.  Stop bugging me with frantic focus-seizing pop-ups over nothing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 24, 2015, 01:14:00 PM
Dear Google:

If I sign into Gmail in an Incognito window, please DO NOT have Chrome 'know that' if I open a regular window.


This doesn't seem to happen consistently.  But it happened today and the other day.  I don't WANT to be persisently logged into anything when I'm using a computer at work.  So I log into Gmail with an Incognito window, since Chrome has gotten Fbook kinds of grabby.

Then I open a regular Chrome window to make changes on our eBay account, and . . . the little person icon in the upper right has my name on it.  Google has me logged in persistently.  I go to the trouble of logging myself out, which Chrome warns me is permanent.  FINE.

Come back later, log into Gmail again through an Incognito window, and . . . regular window shows that I'm logged in.

FUCK.  YOU.  That is not how this is supposed to work.

Weirdly / extra irritatingly, it's not 100% reproducible.  It only happens sometimes.  But it's definitely not that I'm accidentally logging in with a regular tab or window.

Of course, if you load Gmail in an Incognito tab or window, Gmail still defaults to remembering you.  I'd have more confidence in Google's privacy schtick if Gmail knew enough to uncheck that box.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 24, 2015, 01:45:36 PM
I google this without finding a good answer:

Why the hell does Gmail insist on rotating attached images 90 degrees counterclockwise?  It knows which way is supposed to be up; it gets the thumbnails right.  But if you select View, it turns the image sideways.

I mean . . . come on, FFS.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 25, 2015, 07:03:25 AM
I guess I'm glad I don't use Gmail.

Google has been pestering me lately to make it my homepage. That's pathetic. Even Bing doesn't stoop to that. Yet.

And Comcrap. A few days ago I noticed there was a free Starz preview going on. I had to search online to find out how long it lasted, so I could set priorities. I haven't seen any new movies in a long time, like years. I just saw Elysium finally. So anyway, I was thinking, Comcrap ought to notify users through their spam they send relentlessly, and they just did, at 3AM this morning. The preview ends tomorrow. It started Thursday.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on January 26, 2015, 12:03:49 AM
Bastards.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 26, 2015, 11:41:43 AM
I broke my second cheapass Flare (cheap AssFlare?) phone -- well, it sort of died on its own -- and gave up, went and got a fancyphone.  It's an LG Tribute.  Cost me $80; it was the highest rated phone under $100, by a considerable margin on both scores.

So.  FINE.

It's so-so as a phone, slightly better as a texting machine.  The manual for it is hilariously incomplete.  The status bar at the top displays about nine things at a time out of I don't know how many possible icons, but at least 12-15, and the manual doesn't explain what they do.  Some are obvious (time, power remaining), and some are clear if you've dealt with this stuff before (connectivity, vibrate function turned on), and some you can figure out if you fool with the phone long enough (a leaf icon means the phone will go into power-saving mode if the battery runs low).

Others . . . are just mysterious.  There's one that appeared to show the phases of the moon but turns out to have something to do with VirginMobile's music service.  :shrug:

Meanwhile.  I turned off everything I'm not currently using, which includes WiFi, 3G/4G, Google everything, all web stuff, all game-related stuff, autolocation, all automatic reporting back to VM, etc.  I go online, and my account says I've used 200 MB of data already, in like four days.

:confused:

It won't tell me what that data usage was.  I email VM, and they say that for privacy reasons THEY can't see what it was, either.  My account terms just changed, anyway, and I don't get billed (apparently) for overages; my connection rate just goes down.  But still.  VM can't figure out where the data transfer might be coming from (or going to), either.

:nonplused:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 26, 2015, 12:12:02 PM
Tribute?

(http://www.bopandtigerbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/volunteer.gif)

Yes please.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 26, 2015, 01:38:19 PM
 . . . Hunger Games?

I still haven't seen a single one of her films.  Winter's Bone has been unavailable from Netflix for months now.  It must be popular.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on January 26, 2015, 02:13:31 PM
It won't tell me what that data usage was.  I email VM, and they say that for privacy reasons THEY can't see what it was, either.  My account terms just changed, anyway, and I don't get billed (apparently) for overages; my connection rate just goes down.  But still.  VM can't figure out where the data transfer might be coming from (or going to), either.

:nonplused:

On Android, you can find out what apps are using data by going into the settings (swipe from the top and use the gear icon, or peck through your apps until you see "Settings"), then in the first section (this part depends on the phone a bit) you should see Data Usage near all the options for Bluetooth, WiFi, and mobile networks.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 26, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
Aha!  Thanks a zillion.  Funny the VirginMobile people didn't know that. 

176 MB of my mysterious usage was GooglePlay Servicer.  I assume it was doing a setup or update thing, but I had it turned off, in theory, and I don't plan to use GooglePlay.  I turned off Background Data access to stop such nonsense, although it's awkward that you apparently have to turn it off separately from regular data access.  I know, I know -- they figure the apps know better than you do whether or not you want them to be able to do their own thing.

CNET just taught me that the 'spinning sun' icon means the phone is trying to access Sprint's Spark 4G whatever.  No!  Bad phone.  I didn't tell you to do that.  But I seem to have gotten the message across now.

One of the remaining mystery icons was to tell me I haven't accepted the software terms of use for the phone yet.  WELL.  I wonder how long I can continue without doing that.  Phone's working, so . . . .

The last mystery icon that's showing right now is to tell me that a system update is ready to be installed.  That was the other component of the mysterious data usage.  I'm not going to install it right now, though, because my charger is at home, and it'll be hours and hours before I get back there.

Phone's a pretty good deal, I think, but I wish it had come with a USB adapter and at least a Tyvek sleeve, like a freaking debit card.  That would have added maybe 50 cents to the merchant's cost.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 26, 2015, 08:56:23 PM
Go into Settings and then Apps and turn off automatic updates.  Most of the apps it's trying to update you probably don't care about, and while it's doing the updating, it can seriously impact performance.  I do updating in Android manually, when it notifies me updates are available.

Otherwise it does it right while you're in the middle of trying to do something (if it's set to automatic) and that's pretty annoying in my experience.

You probably want the system update.  One complaint I have with most carriers is that system updates are few and far between, and they always lag way behind actual Android development (usually to the user's detriment).

I'd advise you go through the pre-installed apps on the phone and remove whatever you don't want (that it lets you remove, anyway) and that'll limit the "Hey, there's an update available for this!" annoying nonsense.

Also.... that didn't come with a USB cable?  WTF?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 26, 2015, 08:59:36 PM
Additionally, Phyre and I are both Android experts -- don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions.  We've been there.   :D
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 27, 2015, 10:26:22 AM
If I had an Android its sleep screen would be a robot sheep.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 27, 2015, 11:17:26 AM
Sweet!  And now I want sheep, too.  Actually, the wallpapers it comes with are pretty lame, and you can't just select BLACK FREAKING BACKGROUND, which would actually be my preference, for the same reason that I don't have Van Gogh's Starry Night painted on the top of my actual desk.

In theory I could somehow upload a JPG of a black rectangle, or something.  I'm not that inspired, but maybe someday.

Similarly, all the ringtones and sound FX that come with it are pretty awful.  There's nothing . . . plain.  Just a beep is fine.  A Star Trek beep would be far superior.  Sad that notification sound FX conceived in 1967 are better than the ones we have now, but whatever.

This phone's OS doesn't have an option to turn off automatic updates.  Instead, I forced stop on the main updater, which seems to govern all the apps.  I just installed a system update last night, and I guess I'll have to check periodically for others.

The deeper Apps settings did let me turn off GooglePlay and the other Google apps, though.  :thumbsup:  Some of them are theoretically useful, but I'm not likely to use them soon, and Google's just pissing me off too much lately.

The browser on this thing is pretty stupid.  I hate that they try to make a "phone" into a tablet that's trying to be a desktop machine.  Give me an ultra-stripped-down browser that lets me toggle images and JS on and off, or don't bother.  This is the perfect arena for net content that has nothing extraneous in it.  These are never going to be good systems if the minimal-capacity end of it panders up to the bloat instead of the other way around.

Unfortunately, I managed to sync (who asked you to sync anything?) my phone to the wrong Gmail account -- one of mine, but not the one I'll actually usually check.  Now I can't figure out how to erase it or access a different one.  PITA, but not crucial.  Someday I'll want to be able to easily check my email through my phone, but not if I have to go through Gmail, which is way too clunky for that.

If I could get a light Thunderbird-style email reader for my phone, that could actually work.  The standard JS Gmail is hopelessly ill-adapted to . . . well, even to desktop browsers like Chrome, but certainly to a phone.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 27, 2015, 11:40:18 PM
Sweet!  And now I want sheep, too.  Actually, the wallpapers it comes with are pretty lame, and you can't just select BLACK FREAKING BACKGROUND, which would actually be my preference, for the same reason that I don't have Van Gogh's Starry Night painted on the top of my actual desk.

In theory I could somehow upload a JPG of a black rectangle, or something.  I'm not that inspired, but maybe someday.

Do what I did.  Launch the Camera app, and put the camera flat against a soft surface (like your leg) and take a completely black picture.  BOOM.  All black wallpaper image.

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Similarly, all the ringtones and sound FX that come with it are pretty awful.  There's nothing . . . plain.  Just a beep is fine.  A Star Trek beep would be far superior.  Sad that notification sound FX conceived in 1967 are better than the ones we have now, but whatever.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jat6xir9vsambc2/AADKhwumrHeCEQHPRdanw3qMa?dl=0    :innocent:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on January 28, 2015, 01:26:43 AM
why couldn't you just put your finger over it?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on January 28, 2015, 02:24:02 AM
Depends on how much light there is behind your finger. We are translucent, if barely. Besides, then somebody might steal a photo of his fingerprint. Or, something. Uh.

Sounds, zounds!  :googily:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 28, 2015, 11:06:26 AM
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Launch the Camera app, and put the camera flat against a soft surface (like your leg) and take a completely black picture.  BOOM.  All black wallpaper image.

:shock:

See, it hadn't even occurred to me yet that I could take a photo and use it as wallpaper.  This is my first fancyphone, and I'm only slowly learning what it does and doesn't do.  Not to mention how to make it do it.

Also:  What costs extra money, and what doesn't.  I was going to try to use it to find out when the next bus would reach my stop, and it gave me a warning that using that service "might" cost me an unknown amount of money.  FFS.  If you can't even tell me yes or no and how much, then forget it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 28, 2015, 01:11:56 PM
  If you can't even tell me yes or no and how much, then forget it.

:galm:

Have you ever met a cell phone company?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 28, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
This is why I'm on a PayLo plan.  $35 a month, The End.

If / when I go over the 250 MB in a month, they reduce my data speed.  But no overage charges.  And international calls cost more, but I don't think I've made an international phone call in the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 29, 2015, 07:57:33 PM
Wait.  You're on the $35 a month Virgin Mobile plan?

That's 2.5 GB, not 250 MB.  This is the same plan I'm on.  8)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 30, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
:confused:  Mine says 250 MB, and then they reduce the speed, but there's no actual limit or overages.

I signed up for it . . . last month?  Early this month?  And the terms of it already changed once, but the change was an improvement.

Regardless, I don't want any background network activity I don't understand.  I'm pretty lazy about trying to figure out what's actually going on back there, so I probably won't use many apps.  Sooner or later, I'll desperately want a map or to Google a phone number or something, but until then this is fine.  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 30, 2015, 08:21:02 PM
 :confused:

Are you sure it isn't 2500 MB?  I don't see a 250 MB plan offered by Virgin.  :shrug:



EDIT: Ok, I see.  They didn't have this plan before, so I was confused.  I also pay for the $35 a month plan, but mine is the one with "Unlimited data, text, plus 300 minutes, includes 2.5 GB of 3G/4G data".  They didn't have two different $35 plans before.

250 MB seems ridiculously low to me.

http://www.virginmobileusa.com/cell-phone-plans/data-messaging-plans/overview/
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 31, 2015, 11:26:35 AM
It's pretty low by modern standards.  For stripped-down high-utility internet stuff, it would actually go a long way, but everything's, well, chrome, nowadays.

:shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: phyre on February 01, 2015, 07:00:52 PM
Additionally, Phyre and I are both Android experts -- don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions.  We've been there.   :D

Thanks man! Let me see if I can take a crack at this...

Sweet!  And now I want sheep, too.  Actually, the wallpapers it comes with are pretty lame, and you can't just select BLACK FREAKING BACKGROUND, which would actually be my preference, for the same reason that I don't have Van Gogh's Starry Night painted on the top of my actual desk.

In theory I could somehow upload a JPG of a black rectangle, or something.  I'm not that inspired, but maybe someday.

I was going to suggest what Sidious suggested, so you're good here.

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Similarly, all the ringtones and sound FX that come with it are pretty awful.  There's nothing . . . plain.  Just a beep is fine.  A Star Trek beep would be far superior.  Sad that notification sound FX conceived in 1967 are better than the ones we have now, but whatever.

There's an app for that. I have one called Zedge (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.zedge.android&hl=en) which allows me to download all manner of spiffy ringtones just by searching (or very simple ones), and they're all free. Naturally, audio files will eat up some bandwidth, so try to be on WiFi when you do it. Same as with the Dropbox link that Sidious posted.

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The browser on this thing is pretty stupid.  I hate that they try to make a "phone" into a tablet that's trying to be a desktop machine.  Give me an ultra-stripped-down browser that lets me toggle images and JS on and off, or don't bother.  This is the perfect arena for net content that has nothing extraneous in it.  These are never going to be good systems if the minimal-capacity end of it panders up to the bloat instead of the other way around.

You can install just any browser you want, and there are several with options to turn off certain things. I personally use Chrome for Android  (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.android.chrome&hl=en)instead of the stock browser (You're right, it's stupid). One of the nice things about Chrome for Android is the new data-reduction feature (http://www.citeworld.com/article/2114408/mobile-byod/chrome-mobile-bandwidth-management-how-to.html); which cuts page load data by an advertised 50% (YMMV).

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Unfortunately, I managed to sync (who asked you to sync anything?) my phone to the wrong Gmail account -- one of mine, but not the one I'll actually usually check.  Now I can't figure out how to erase it or access a different one.  PITA, but not crucial.  Someday I'll want to be able to easily check my email through my phone, but not if I have to go through Gmail, which is way too clunky for that.

You can pick and choose, and remove your synced Gmail account under the settings- if you scroll down in the Settings you'll find a section labeled Accounts, and you'll find the Google account there. If you're ready to switch it to another account, just long press on the existing one to get a menu (or use the menu key if your phone has one?) and delete it, then you should be able to "add account" or something similar to add another Google account. At one time my phone had 3 Google accounts running, and both of my wife's Android devices are running both hers and my Gmail accounts so I can share apps with her.

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If I could get a light Thunderbird-style email reader for my phone, that could actually work.  The standard JS Gmail is hopelessly ill-adapted to . . . well, even to desktop browsers like Chrome, but certainly to a phone.

Ok, first, stop trying to get to Gmail through the browser on the phone (I think that's what you're suggesting here...?)- you'll use way less data if you use the Gmail app, and it'll be much more readable. Second, consider another mail app; K9 has good reviews, but I personally use an app called Mailbox, which allows me to archive email for later and get reminded about it when I can actually use the information. This is a similar function to the Inbox app from Google, but Inbox only works with a standard Gmail account, and not my legacy free Google Apps account which I've got my domain connected to (and there's no telling if Inbox will ever allow my GA account to connect, so I'd be kind of jealous if you got into it).

Alright, that's all I have for now.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 02, 2015, 11:07:00 AM
:hmm:

So far, I really hate the Gmail app, so I probably won't use that.  I found out how to turn JS off in the built-in browser, though, so I can do Gmail-lite through that.  I might have to go looking for an email-oriented webmail service somewhere, though, and see if I can forward Gmail emails to it.

The browser doesn't make it easy to do things like, oh, toggle JS and images and multimedia on and off -- which, really, any 'lite' browser needs to be able to do -- or to even easily tell a webpage that you do or don't want the mobile version.  :whatever:  I really haven't looked for other phone browsers yet.

I did figure out how to delete my synched account.  So that's good.

Right now, there's only one WiFi connection I trust my phone to connect with, but I may go looking for ringtones and such next time I connect to it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 09, 2015, 11:47:09 AM
I'm posting this (http://www.cleveland.com/euclid/index.ssf/2015/03/more_than_100_stealth_egg_atta.html) for two reasons.

One, it's kind of an interesting story about a guy whose house keeps getting egged. My theory is trebuchet, but it could be some type of cannon.

But the main reason is because of the interface for the images. Who the fuck designs this stuff? I give the site credit for only requiring one domain to show pictures, not many sites can pull that off, but they lose all the points with the interface. You look at a picture, then you click the arrow to see the next one, which is fine, but with this one, someone decided it would be cute if the little arrow disappeared. It works fine if you don't want to look at the image for more than a millisecond, but after that, the arrow disappears, and you either have to click or move the mouse to get it to reappear. You might expect that if you just click where the arrow SHOULD be, it would advance to the next image, but nooooo. How does this stuff get by, and how does it continue to exist? If I knew where the designer lived, and I had a really large trebuchet...
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 09, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
HTML, with thumbnails.  There you go.  Is that so difficult?  The problem is, if you're really bad at design, you're probably bad enough at it to not be able to tell that you're bad at it.

Anyway, images didn't load at all in Opera, on my machine.  Some of them loaded in Chrome, but it took way longer than I would normally have waited, and some still didn't load.  Crappy as hell.


Launching eggs is slightly tricky because of course they don't withstand too many G's.  I tried to google this, but google sucks.  Anyway, you want a pretty gradual acceleration, which means a longer wind-up.  I bet you could do two blocks reliably with a surgical tubing slingshot, but then aim is tricky if your design isn't sophisticated.

A trebuchet could work well, but it would need good engineering to avoid peak acceleration, and you'd probably end up with a long sling.  A springy torsion-arm catapult might be more ideal, or a muscle-powered mangonel.  Frankly, a cesta / xistera (jai alai scoop) might be the best overall -- those are great for throwing rocks.

They make slingshots for throwing snowballs and ones for tennis balls, but they also make xisteras for snowballs.  Plastic, cheap, available at Amazon and toy stores.  Might not be anything more elaborate than that.

Can you throw an egg reliably with a lacrosse stick?  You could if you lined it with plastic, anyway.  But you probably wouldn't have terrific range and aim unless you could play lacrosse in the first place.  If I were the cops, I'd look for local residents who played lacrosse in high school or college.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 09, 2015, 02:52:51 PM
The pictures weren't very impressive anyway. Certainly not worth the aggravation.


We'll probably never know what type siege engine they were using. More sophisticated than JavaScript to be sure. There was a reddit thread with much speculation, and among the speculation and investigation, someone found comments saying the victim was a known racist in a now predominately black neighborhood, and his neighbors all hated him. The hearse that comes to carry him away when he dies will probably be egged.

Somebody is having way too much fun, that's for sure. /jealous
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on March 09, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
surgical tubing sling shot

the cops need a drone.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on March 09, 2015, 08:32:41 PM
Axe, I've been meaning to ask... speaking of browsers, have you tried the new Vivaldi browser (https://vivaldi.com/)?

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 10, 2015, 11:49:51 AM
I looked at Vivaldi awhile back, and it's another hot new browser that revolves around the kinds of things I don't want to use my browser to do.  :shrug:  It's another Chromium-engine browser, so, you know, yay to that.  Press reports and reviews I've seen don't seem to know what to say about it.  It changes color to match the website you're viewing -- everybody notes that, and, I mean, um, OK.  And it does tab-stacking, which is nice, and apparently can save your session and restart it.

Which is great, but old Opera already does that.  Well, the version I like doesn't do tab-stacking, but I can live without it.  So maybe I'll try Vivaldi further down the line.  The Vivaldi website doesn't load properly in my version of Opera, which I have to see as a bad sign . . . .
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on March 10, 2015, 07:12:52 PM
Sorry, I was trolling you.  :P

I actually tried a recent build of Vivaldi and thought it wasn't bad.  It's still pretty early to tell (it's not even in beta yet) but I'm going to keep an eye on it because I think it has potential.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 11, 2015, 09:40:19 AM
:lol:  Jury's still out.  Apparently around 15% of Opera users use Opera the way I do, and no other browser does a good job of providing the same utility.  Opera kept trying to be Chrome, and, you know, there already is Chrome.  I mean, I'm really annoyed with Google, but not Microsoft levels of annoyed.  If I were so annoyed with Google that I wouldn't use Chrome, I'd use Firefox.  So I don't see the point of trying to be Chrome.


Speaking of . . . I keep getting more bugs in the PhoneChrome.  It frequently refuses to actually refresh a page when you reload -- it had the BBC News page stuck for three freaking days before it finally displayed the current version, no matter how many times I reloaded it, closed the tab and started over, etc.

It also occasionally refuses to zoom out after you zoom in.  And if I zoom in and out too much, it stops letting me scroll, too.  UNHELPFUL.

Both of the browsers on my phone lack Forward and Back buttons or commands.  They both use the phone's built-in Back command, but apparently that means not bothering to have a Forward, and the phone doesn't have a Forward.  The phone normally doesn't need one.  The browsers desperately need one. 

Hit Back once too often, and I have to type in a URL again (it's faster than the clunky bookmarks / recent pages options), and typing URLs on the phone is not exactly snappy.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 20, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Perhaps in your children's lifetime, technology will become so advanced that page numbers correlate with the index in PDFs.

I mean come on, I don't think I've ever seen one that's correct. The first decade or so of computers, I can sort of understand, but now that catalogs are used more in the digital format than in the print format, and in cases where the catalogs are never printed, it just defies logic.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 21, 2015, 10:43:29 AM
PDFs suck.  At least nowadays they suck a lot faster, so you don't have to wait endlessly for them to page-up / page-down incorrectly. 

Why, I remember when you had to wait a good seventy or eighty seconds just for Adobe to make a bizarre assumption about what level of magnification you wanted.  I mean, did we or did we not all agree in 1998 that 107% should be the default, whether the document fit on the screen or not?  Surely we must have.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 21, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on March 23, 2015, 07:28:42 PM
Oh Slacker.com (http://www.slacker.com).  I seed a station with Perturbator (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz1iNl7Bng4), a decidedly electronic artist, and what do you give me?

Everything but music that fits with that.  Country artists, Wham, a bunch of Finnish death metal (which on another station I otherwise wouldn't mind hearing), Latin guitar, 1950s jazz artists, the list goes on and on and on.

Come on, guys.  If you don't know what to fucking do with an artist, just say so.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 24, 2015, 11:41:59 AM
The mobile version of Firefox has an add-on that allegedly will always give you the desktop version of a site (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/android/addon/desktop-mode-add-on/).  I'm too cynical to believe that it always works, but I still might try installing it.  That would put three different browsers on my phone, which is just stupid, but the other two don't want to let me do this. 

There's probably a stupid add-on for stupid Chrome somewhere, but I couldn't find it, and I don't like Chrome enough to keep looking.  :P  But, seriously, so far I can't think of a website I've looked at with my phone where the mobile version isn't worse than using the desktop version on my phone.  Wikipedia's mobile version is the least crappy, but still not good enough to keep me from loading the desktop version.


In other news . . . auto-complete features need a way to tell the browser Remove This One From Your List Of Auto-Complete Possibilities.  Seriously, I typo a URL once, and it ends up the top suggestion for a long time.

I thought that Opera automatically bumped bookmarked URLs to the top of the auto-complete suggestion list, but either I imagined that or it doesn't work that way anymore.  Shame.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 28, 2015, 10:03:53 AM
I really hate how Gmail handles and mishandles quoted material.  SO much.  I want a user setting that says Never Try To Do Anything Special With Quoted Text.  Never Ever Ever.  Just Stop.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 31, 2015, 09:42:16 AM
There's a thing they're doing on BBC and The Guardian now, where they don't serve up a full size image. I'm guessing they're serving up a mobile-size image, but enlarging it to desktop size without increasing the resolution. You now have to allow JavaScript for the pictures to display correctly. Or maybe it's HTML5, either way, I now have to allow scripts to run on those sites to view clear images. I hope this is not a new trend.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 31, 2015, 10:23:39 AM
A TON of sites now have images from redirects and other fancy bullshit that won't work without JS.  I still use the BBC News page, even though they've dumbed it way, way down, and I just put up with blurry images.  Screw it.

Otherwise . . . when a site downgrades their functionality, I usually look for equivalent content elsewhere.  It's a big internet.  I don't have to put up with endless bullshit, so I don't.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 31, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
I don't go to either of them regularly, I just end up there via story links on reddit or whatever. I used to read the BBC RSS feed all the time, but got out of the habit.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 02, 2015, 09:40:19 AM
Amazon's product search function, so fscking terrible.  It constantly turns up not what I asked for but what Amazon thinks I might be tempted into buying, based on what I entered.  Yeah, SWELL, but I'm looking for the thing I'm looking for.  Assholes.

And the search doesn't understand logical operators like Must Contain or Must Not Contain.  It really needs those.

So I was looking for a type of locking bracket, and instead Amazon showed me a million of a different thing that I can't use and don't want.  Would not stop.  To hell with it.

But now everywhere I go online with Chrome, I see Amazon ads . . . for the thing I don't want.

I WILL REPROGRAM YOU IN THE FACE.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on April 03, 2015, 12:29:32 AM
You just don't know that you really do want it yet.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 03, 2015, 09:38:05 AM
I'm sure Facebook will hear about it and try to convince me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on April 03, 2015, 11:46:00 AM
The drones are waiting.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 09, 2015, 05:46:57 PM
Google's added an extra page to the Gmail login?  :eyeroll:

Fuck off, Google.  Stop making everything worse.

Just one more reason to use the Basic HMTL version of Gmail, which is approximately 300 times better than the 'full' version.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on May 12, 2015, 03:06:49 PM
I just got an Android powered TracPhone... and for the first time ever I'm intimidated by new technology.  :harumph:

I got my gmail on there, but now I have this unwieldy contacts list that appears to include every person or company that has ever emailed me. I cannot for the life of me find a way, either on the phone, or via desktop, how to delete the contacts I don't want. :banghead:

I had no idea how invasive Google stuff was in Android phones, I might have given the whole thing a second thought if the shitty old phone had not started tweaking out.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 13, 2015, 05:23:38 PM
If you can use Gmail through the browser and shut JavaScript off, you'll probably suddenly like it a lot better.

On my phone, I only ever email people if I'm replying to something.  :lol:  The contacts list is too much of a pain in the ass.  When you aren't using JS, changing the subject line is a lot easier, too.  It's like . . . actual email.

It no longer autosaves drafts, though, and if you're not used to Google's brilliant design style (like having identical Save and Send buttons RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER), there's a possibility of tragedy.  Just sayin'.



My phone occasionally takes photos when I pick it up.  Overall, I (surprisingly) actually like my phone a lot, but the volume and screen-power buttons are exactly opposite each other, so it's easy to press both at the same time.  :whatever:  I'm sure I have many pictures of my waistband, etc, on there.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 23, 2015, 04:47:57 PM
I think today was the first time I ever saw one of these signs (http://www.statepatrol.ohio.gov/images/mediareleases/LCSsign.JPG), and after zipping by it at 70 mph or so, I thought to myself, "I hope I'm not doing whatever that was saying I should or shouldn't be doing". I get it now, I think, but there's got to be a better way to illustrate that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 24, 2015, 07:49:27 AM
It looks like you can get a ticket from passing a semi truck too closely?  I've not heard of such laws, I don't think we have that where I live.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 24, 2015, 11:56:06 AM
I guess it doesn't actually say there's a specific citation for that, but a cop can ticket you for 'unsafe driving' on any whim.

I think that sign means not to pull in too close to the front of a semi.  Which is a good idea, but it's not a great sign.  I often think we need lots of regular PSAs about how to fucking drive, because people have no idea.  Let's face it.  A lot of them are careless narcissistic assholes, but also they genuinely don't know how a turn lane or all-way stop works.

Around here, they started allowing left turns at red lights -- but only under very specific conditions.  Consequently, I regularly see people making left turns at any old red light.  Fuck it.

Similarly, people drive in the bicycle lanes all the time.  ALL the time.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 24, 2015, 03:14:47 PM
Yeah, that's what I assume it means too, and in hindsight, I suppose it's fairly obvious, but while driving in fast heavy traffic, it did not compute. If it was a common sign, that would help, but for some reason, they appear to only be at this one location, at least that's the only place I've seen them, and it's not something new, they were old signs.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 27, 2015, 09:33:57 AM
Open Chrome, just open a single Gmail tab.  COMPUTER BOGS.

Look into it. 

Um . . . Chrome has opened thirteen instances, using an average of over 70 MB of memory each, and it's using up kind of a lot of CPU time.

Check Gmail tab, and it's fully loaded.  It's 'not doing anything'.

Fuck you, Chrome!

And, you know, even with Opera having gone downhill as much as it has, it takes nothing to open a Gmail tab with JS turned off.  Nothing.  It's almost instantaneous.  I could literally open a hundred Gmail tabs at once and not have the machine bog.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 28, 2015, 07:03:34 AM
Well, Chrome is multi-threaded, and it tends to put each tab and extension into its own processor thread... so yes, if you have a bunch of extensions installed and open a tab and look at the task manager in Windows, you'll see a bunch of disparate processes named "Chrome".  With that kind of performance hit you described, it's probably a misbehaving extension or plugin.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on May 28, 2015, 10:12:32 AM
Misbehaving Extensions
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 28, 2015, 11:39:50 AM
I've never installed an extension, and I ran Chrome once and only had the one tab open.  I don't know if other extensions were installed automatically, at some point . . . OK, it says Avast has an extension installed (fair enough), and someone added Google Docs.

I realize Chrome expects me to have a newer computer, but stuff like this is the only reason I'd need to buy a newer computer.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 28, 2015, 05:44:28 PM
I realize Chrome expects me to have a newer computer, but stuff like this is the only reason I'd need to buy a newer computer.

The high-tech economy and its discontents, explained.

I was so fucking pissed off when I had to shut off my wife's computer. It was FASTER than its successor, by a long fucking shot - it was just that I couldn't get software for it any more because, you know, the processor was developed a decade ago, which might has well be the late Cretaceous as far as they are concerned. Motherfuckers.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 28, 2015, 08:08:14 PM
I've never installed an extension, and I ran Chrome once and only had the one tab open.  I don't know if other extensions were installed automatically, at some point . . . OK, it says Avast has an extension installed (fair enough), and someone added Google Docs.

I realize Chrome expects me to have a newer computer, but stuff like this is the only reason I'd need to buy a newer computer.

You'll want to remove that Avast extension.  It's completely useless, and probably responsible for your slowness.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on May 29, 2015, 01:26:50 AM
I realize Chrome expects me to have a newer computer, but stuff like this is the only reason I'd need to buy a newer computer.

The high-tech economy and its discontents, explained.

I was so fucking pissed off when I had to shut off my wife's computer. It was FASTER than its successor, by a long fucking shot - it was just that I couldn't get software for it any more because, you know, the processor was developed a decade ago, which might has well be the late Cretaceous as far as they are concerned. Motherfuckers.

Yep, we're running into that with the iMac.  Maxes out at snow leopard or something like that.  Can't upgrade or fix various software issues also.  The thing is, I can't afford to replace it. :stbm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 29, 2015, 04:52:46 AM
You'll want to remove that Avast extension.  It's completely useless, and probably responsible for your slowness.

I vaguely remember something like that with Firefox a long time ago... the Avast extension had no functional value, but it caused problems. The application was okay, but the extension was bad :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 29, 2015, 09:27:13 AM
Quote
You'll want to remove that Avast extension.  It's completely useless, and probably responsible for your slowness.

Done and done!

:thumbsup:

We'll see how improved the improvement improves.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 29, 2015, 09:41:04 AM
Quote
You'll want to remove that Avast extension.  It's completely useless, and probably responsible for your slowness.

(http://i.imgur.com/kWdtKvi.gif)



Removed Avast extension, and disabled Google Docs for the hell of it, since I haven't used Google Docs in long enough that I can't remember when I used it.

Chrome is now, well, not fast, but enormously faster.  Four instances and about 350 MB to open a Gmail tab.  That's a lot better, no question.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 30, 2015, 06:51:39 PM
Quote
You'll want to remove that Avast extension.  It's completely useless, and probably responsible for your slowness.
Chrome is now, well, not fast, but enormously faster.  Four instances and about 350 MB to open a Gmail tab.  That's a lot better, no question.

(https://i.imgur.com/82oDMf5.gif)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 31, 2015, 12:07:42 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 31, 2015, 07:50:12 PM
I'm easily amused.   :D
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 01, 2015, 11:32:36 AM
I was going to post the insane-laughter GIF from World Police, but I couldn't find it in time.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 01, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
[ahem]

(http://i.imgur.com/VJ2CHE0.gif)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on June 01, 2015, 09:08:10 PM
Interesting that the only website working for me right now is this one. Huh.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on June 02, 2015, 06:56:50 AM
There IS only this website.  There only ever was this website.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on June 02, 2015, 10:46:56 AM
There IS only this website.  There only ever was this website.
Zombo is coming...
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on June 02, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
/me wakes up next to Suzanne Pleshette
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 02, 2015, 12:14:15 PM
(http://i.minus.com/ib15BgBQcMqiQo.gif)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 02, 2015, 01:08:00 PM
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/e37f51f00903e698a84c73418ad18509/tumblr_np6hhgZT4n1snb6qwo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 02, 2015, 04:34:31 PM
Lately, I have to hit Send twice to send an email from Gmail.  This is true in Opera without JS and in Chrome with JS, and across multiple computers.  It's not 100% consistent with one of my accounts, but for a couple of days it's been entirely consistent, I think, with the other one, the one I use the most.

It's weird.  It's not really that annoying or worrisome, but it's weird.  The first time I click on the button, it takes the focus away from the composition box, but nothing else happens.

:shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 02, 2015, 04:35:26 PM
Google (ha!) says that a lot of people have problems like this.  Oh.  Well, all-righty, then.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on June 02, 2015, 07:47:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/y111cLA.gif)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on June 02, 2015, 11:37:26 PM
The Laughing Androids
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 03, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
My phone is like that.  Or so I understand.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 10, 2015, 10:35:46 AM
Tried to send a run-of-the-mill email from Gmail.  Took forever, and then I got a blank page with this title:

        500 Bad Request (no such)!!1

Which, :hmm: , someone at Google has a sense of humor, although is the "500" part of the joke?  Isn't "400" for bad requests and "500" for internal errors?  But whatever.

What cheeses me is that Gmail didn't save a draft or put a copy in the Sent folder.  Email just gone.  Whatever happened was a big choke.  Tried sending a test message to my other Gmail account, same deal.  Seems to have cleared up now, though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on June 12, 2015, 11:58:35 PM
all the higher end windows machine peripherals are for, "gaming" (work doesn't understand) and have some kind of, stupid pointless enhancement like LED backlighting.

i don't want to look like a tool at my desk.

how the hell am i supposed to search for highly rated stuff when it's skewed by gamers?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 13, 2015, 09:21:02 AM
Linux forums?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 20, 2015, 10:58:37 AM
Can I just say this?

"The internet is down."

That should not happen.  Ever.  It is literally the opposite of exactly what the internet was fundamentally designed to do.

There are virtually no ISPs, as such.  It's a gigantic failure of execution.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 11, 2015, 02:32:31 PM
Adobe decided it would be a good idea to change the color of their Flash installer slightly, to a different shade of red. Maybe that will make is less vulnerable to attack. I'm amazed they have the time to fiddle with that, in between updates. I quit installing to go back and verify I had downloaded directly from Adobe because the installer looked so weird. Bastards.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 11, 2015, 08:44:00 PM
inorite? bugged me all day today. fuckin' adobe
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 12, 2015, 04:50:00 AM
I'll tell you another one that might affect you - after my latest iTunes update, the shuffle function was turned on. Took me longer than I care to admit to notice that one.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 14, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
Looking for good real estate listing websites.  Google pointed me at the Webby Awards website for real estate sites.  WELL, OK, I guess that in theory that makes sense.

The Webby Award website is possibly the worst website I've seen since GeoCities went down.  Holy gibbering Christ.  I just laughed at it for a little while and then closed it.

Irony isn't dead, but it's been suffering a hell of a lot of grievous wounds over the last couple of decades.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 14, 2015, 01:12:10 PM
Well there's Zillow.  But my wife has an MLS subscription for our LLC, so I don't know of any others.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 14, 2015, 01:47:22 PM
Zillow . . . isn't fully horrible, but it generally seems to have about 25% of the listings available.  Every time I go to look at something I saw on Zillow, I see tons of listed properties that aren't on Zillow.  You know?

I don't know if that's because of how properties end up on Zillow (I don't know how they get their listings) or because Zillow is favoring some listings over others.  But it definitely hugely reduces the usefulness of Zillow.  Trulia's even worse, in this regard.  I found a semi-annoying site called HotPads that actually had more up-to-date listings than Zillow . . . and when I saw something interesting there, I'd go to Zillow and enter the address.  Zillow has better information about most places even if it doesn't know that they're for sale.

:shrug:

Still better than trying to find commercial real estate listings online.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 14, 2015, 03:30:30 PM
Doing a search for "better than zillow" brings up this result (http://www.thetruthaboutrealty.com/redfin-vs-zillow-vs-trulia-which-is-better/). 3 years old :shrug:

Also, two days later, another flash update and iTunes update  :angry:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: vox8 on July 14, 2015, 11:09:09 PM
Zillow thinks that there are actually 3 houses on my property. And none of them accurately describe my house.

One is a 3 bed room 2 bath (accurate) with a square footage about 1/2 of what we have.

One is listed as --bed room -- bath -- square feet but at about $10k above the listed price of above imaginary home.

And one is -- bed room .5 bath 1,188 square feet for $400.00

That is a really fucking big half bath if you ask me.

FYI - 3 BR, 2 Bath, 2,200 square feet.

I don't trust Zillow at all.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 15, 2015, 05:18:22 PM
I know I shouldn't, but they do often have more information than other places . . . and they have a very high idea of what my house is worth.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: the other andrea on July 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
I like estately.com, also redfin.com, if you haven't tried them yet.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: eldiem on July 19, 2015, 09:28:13 PM
Honestly when I was looking for a house I just used realtor.com after I realized zillow was omitting listings.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 21, 2015, 12:32:39 PM
Realtor.com always seems great when I first start using it again, and then I notice again that it tends to mix properties not listed for sale in with the ones that are for sale.

Every time I see something amazing listed at under $50k, I realize it isn't actually on the market.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 12, 2015, 03:03:35 PM
There's some secret (to me) key combo that immediately kills Chrome.  I have no idea WTF it is, but I accidentally hit it about once every other day.  It's extremely, extremely annoying, and I was not warned that Chrome was going to manifest a new reason for me to hate it.

It's some combination of 2-3 keys that are near the righthand Shift button.  That's all I know.  When I've tried to reproduce it on purpose, I can't, although once, by mashing in irritation, I brought up a weird DOS-looking pseudo-window thing that described some keyboard shortcuts for Chrome and told me about a bunch that were currently turned off.  I looked through for the Kill Chrome one, but no.  Also looked through Chrome's settings for these turned-off keyboard commands, but I couldn't find them.

The googles, they do nothing.

I don't know WTF, but it's almost made me destroy my keyboard on at least two occasions.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 12, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
While I'm here . . . for the last few weeks, certain Wikipedia pages have refused to load for me.  I keep forgetting to check if it's just this machine or what, but it doesn't matter which user is logged in.

Here's one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Defence_of_Duffer's_Drift).  It used to work.  Now I just get a blank screen, no error message.  Just me?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: eldiem on August 12, 2015, 04:07:36 PM
Works for me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 12, 2015, 05:43:52 PM
There's some secret (to me) key combo that immediately kills Chrome.  I have no idea WTF it is, but I accidentally hit it about once every other day.  It's extremely, extremely annoying, and I was not warned that Chrome was going to manifest a new reason for me to hate it....

serves  you right for typing in b i n g
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 12, 2015, 06:43:27 PM
There's some secret (to me) key combo that immediately kills Chrome.  I have no idea WTF it is, but I accidentally hit it about once every other day.  It's extremely, extremely annoying, and I was not warned that Chrome was going to manifest a new reason for me to hate it.

It's some combination of 2-3 keys that are near the righthand Shift button.  That's all I know.  When I've tried to reproduce it on purpose, I can't, although once, by mashing in irritation, I brought up a weird DOS-looking pseudo-window thing that described some keyboard shortcuts for Chrome and told me about a bunch that were currently turned off.  I looked through for the Kill Chrome one, but no.  Also looked through Chrome's settings for these turned-off keyboard commands, but I couldn't find them.

The googles, they do nothing.

I don't know WTF, but it's almost made me destroy my keyboard on at least two occasions.

Ctrl+Shift+Q for Linux, ⌘-Q for Mac, but it doesn't list Ctrl+Q for Windows. That's weird.

Are you sure it's not running in the background? Maybe it's some shortcut to hide it or something. Maybe you assigned some keys without realizing it? I dunno, grasping for straws here.

Photoshop was freaking out on me earlier. Command Z was not working, several other things were really odd. Had me scratching my head for a while. Repairing permissions eventually fixed it. :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 12, 2015, 06:45:07 PM
While I'm here . . . for the last few weeks, certain Wikipedia pages have refused to load for me.  I keep forgetting to check if it's just this machine or what, but it doesn't matter which user is logged in.

Here's one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Defence_of_Duffer's_Drift).  It used to work.  Now I just get a blank screen, no error message.  Just me?

Works for me in Firefox, Safari and Opera. I noticed your link was http, but I get https. Don't know if that's it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 12, 2015, 07:50:14 PM
Good old Alt-f4 works wonders in Windows.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 13, 2015, 10:20:58 AM
YOU GUYS.  :lol:

Quote
Are you sure it's not running in the background? Maybe it's some shortcut to hide it or something.

I totally thought of this, too, but I think we're being too sneaky.  Chrome's not that devious, or, rather, it doesn't admit to it.  And, no, definitely dead, not a single process running.  Man, it usually takes forever to shut them all down.  Possibly this is just a bug that crashes it into a wood chipper.

It's not involving Q, though.  It's all keys near the righthand Shift, no question.  I haven't been able to reproduce the weird Keyboard Shortcuts screen, either, which sucks because that was very peculiar and sort of kind of cool.


I get redirected to the https version of Wikipedia, which is fine, but I had a chance and confirmed that I get a blank screen for that page on every machine here at work.  Can't load the mobile version either.  Blocked by the ISP for some reason?  Most Wikipedia pages still work fine.  I can load it on my phone, in either version.

GFD.  Irritating.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 13, 2015, 10:38:25 AM
I have noticed that a bunch of websites that I used to be able to view without a problem are suddenly completely fucked. Naturally, it's third party scripts (I have NoScript blocking everything by default), but I haven't bothered to exhaustively figure out which one. However the fact that it's happening in a number of places at the same time (and perhaps to you as well?) makes me wonder if somebody big that supplies .js as a service changed their URL or changed a bunch of shit about their structure that has pissed off NoScript somehow. I can't help but thinking that this may be connected. (I'm using FF 39 so obviously different browser)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 13, 2015, 12:17:11 PM
Anything's possible.  My personal policy is this:  If your content isn't SUPER awesome and also exclusive, and your site doesn't work for me or is a pain in the ass, then I'm not going to your site.  Generally the same content, or something equally good, is available elsewhere.

It's sort of capitalist, but simple.  Unfortunately, I still have to use my insurance company's circa-1995 credit card payment site.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 08, 2015, 01:26:01 PM
Two Western Digital hard drives failed on me in the last two years.  Neither of them was worked very hard.  Both were USB externals, although not the same type.

WELP, no more WD drives for me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 08, 2015, 05:33:20 PM
G-Drive is owned by WD, just FYI, before you go shopping.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
Good to know.  Honestly, I don't think I'll ever go back to trusting USB external storage of any kind with any important data.  Every time I have a problem and google it, it's a vast sea of other people complaining.  I don't know how much of it is crappy hardware and how much is USB just being flaky, but even with write caching disabled, it's way too problematic for my tastes.

I don't currently own a machine with eSATA ports, and all but one of my machines is a laptop.  On the other hand, apparently an eSATA PCMCIA card can be had for under $25.

I'm not shopping right now, as I'm currently . . . I think I'm the brokest I've ever been in my life, actually.  Yeesh.  But eventually.  For the moment, I'm backing stuff up either by Gmailing it to myself and/or by using a flash drive just to ferry a copy to second machine's internal hard drive.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 10, 2015, 07:56:05 PM
Quote from: yahoo.com
Hi,
Your Yahoo username(s):
[redacted]
Have a great day!
Yahoo
   
Replies sent to this email address cannot be answered.

 :confused:

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 10, 2015, 07:59:16 PM
An tumblr took my logins because I haven't logged in... in a long fucking time. That may be what the message was supposed to be about.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on January 06, 2016, 03:31:40 PM
just because i bought a raspberry pi does not mean i know how to code. please include very simple instructions or an installer with your software if you want me to use it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2016, 04:17:07 PM
It often seems like the hardest thing in the world is writing documentation.  And people who've been trained often have zero concept of what people who haven't been trained don't already know.  That's kind of the Linux experience in a nutshell.

On the other hand, the Windows experience in a nutshell is We Say This Is How You Obviously Want To Do Things, whereas in my experience no one seems too sure what Apple's intentions are, aside from being shiny.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 05, 2016, 02:51:45 PM
I made the mistake of buying Windows phone. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. I could have gotten an Android for like $10 more. I thought for my needs, it will be fine. I just need it for the phone and camera, maybe occasional text. I turned the data off.

I've had it for a while, and every time I picked it up and played with it, I got aggravated with the UI, so I would put it down. I finally got around to learning how it works, and only today tried uploading some pics from it to my computer. Nope. They connect, they pair, but I can't get files to transfer, even with a USB connection. I can't believe that Windows and Macs still can't play nice together. Now it's too late to return the phone, otherwise I definitely would. There's got to be a solution to it, but I got so aggravated with it I had to walk away from it for a while.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on May 05, 2016, 04:40:07 PM
So you're the guy who bought one?  I heard rumors that someone actually did.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 05, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Yeah, I'm a sucker for the underdog.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 07, 2016, 09:41:21 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 29, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
Imgur is tinkering around again. I'm getting a beta version here that is really sucking. I think there's some battle brewing between them and reddit, and they're attempting to somehow monetize through ...pissing off the clientele? Disabling JavaScript kills some of the bad behavior, but also disables some needed functionality. I think I may have found a way to kill some of the scripts with AdBlock. Using the internet should not be this complicated. I'm constantly having to learn new ways to repair 'improvements'.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on June 30, 2016, 08:52:29 PM
Oh good lord the beta version of Imgur.  I'm using it too and... I have no words.   :angry:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 01, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
Imgur's blown sick dogs since they went into heavy JS implementation.  It's terrible with or without JS, except for simple single-image hosting.

Reddit decided to start hosting images directly, which they do super-clumsily (to make it more Reddit-specific, I imagine), and Imgur is all in a twist. 

WELL.  If you didn't start being crappy and stop doing a good job at the core thing you're supposed to do, maybe people wouldn't go elsewhere. 

There.  I said it.  And I'm looking at you, Google.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 17, 2016, 02:53:20 PM
WHAT is that thing where there's a cellphone video, and it's flanked by blurry versions of itself?

As a species, we must come together to stop that, and immediately, and to take the people who came up with it and bury them in a volcanic vent deep below the Antarctic Sea.

Seriously, I will not watch your video if that is happening.  Skip right over it.  I don't care if it shows Jesus beating Donald Trump with a tennis racket.  No sale.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 17, 2016, 07:08:18 PM
I'm not sure if I know what you're talking about. You have an example?

Is it worse than the tumblr fad of posting a group of like 6 GIFs of the same video at different stages of the video?

 :hmm: Okay, you're excused from coming up with an example, because I don't want to go find one of what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 19, 2016, 09:57:38 AM
The thing of breaking a video up into GIFs with subtitles is borderline OK with me because I'm not likely to watch the actual video.  Of recent -- and I blame Reddit for this, quite squarely -- GIFs have gone from 50 MB and not larger than 800x600 to 600 MB and too big to fit on my screen.  I don't care if it's HTML6 or whatever else; that's crap.

No, this is a thing where someone shot phone video without turning the phone sideways when they should have.  And it's displayed as if it were landscape mode, but with the extra space taken up on either side by blurred partly-zoomed-in copies of the video in the middle.

It's gotta be some shitty app that a million people installed because, "Yes, I have a hole, shovel stuff right on in, whatever stuff you've got."  I see it constantly on Facebook.

On the other hand, I managed to learn how to mostly make Facebook not autoplay videos.  That did really odd things to how Facebook displays GIFs, and for some reason it made it so that videos I do start keep playing and replaying, even if they're off the screen, unless I stop them.  But it's still a slight improvement on Facebook's incompetent bullshit interface.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 20, 2016, 10:07:43 AM
I just ran across this in the local news. I guess it's a thing even if it's a still picture. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 20, 2016, 11:52:45 AM
Seriously.  That is an embarrassment to the human species.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 21, 2016, 01:06:15 AM
/me shakes cane

Do not like.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 28, 2016, 02:09:54 PM
Decent article on shady practices and interfaces. (http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/07/dark-patterns-are-designed-to-trick-you-and-theyre-all-over-the-web/) Not a great article, but it's good to see the topic getting discussed, at least, and to hear the latest on how they're trying to scam.

My favorite part was about LinkedIn, which is already about as disreputable as possible, automatically sharing user's cellphone numbers when users submit the number for two factor authentication.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 31, 2016, 09:17:16 AM
Lots of websites, especially news sites, like to use CSS to set the main page font to Benton Sans.  I assume some giant conglomerate licensed or created this font.  Regardless, it doesn't display right on any Windows or Linux machine I've used, as far as I can tell.  It's always ragged and blurry and irritating as hell.  It looks like a bad font choice on a GeoCities webpage.

I haven't found a really good workaround yet to force a font substitution.  I can live with it, but it's really annoying.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 31, 2016, 10:47:49 AM
I don't think I've ever heard of that one, and I've got a zillion of them.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 31, 2016, 10:48:00 AM
Yesterday I was about to take a trip, and my tires are getting kind of bald, so I thought I'd check my spare. I don't know if this is standard to most cars, but the valve is facing the floor of the trunk, so I had to remove the tire to check the pressure. It only goes one way, you can't just flip it over.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 31, 2016, 12:06:14 PM
Tire's on backwards?  The tire can be mounted two ways on the wheel, after all.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 31, 2016, 12:07:37 PM
Sample Benton Sans news article (http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2016/08/defendant_says_he_was_fighting.html).

The body text is all raggedy bullshit for me. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 31, 2016, 12:42:11 PM
OK, so this is super-minor, but I REALLY FUCKING HATE IT when a browser, etc, calls a hyperlink a "link address", as in "Copy link address" when I want to copy the URL.

Usually it's Microsoft that comes up with new names for stuff when we already had a perfectly good name for a thing, but the fucking "link address" is everywhere.  AND IT'S NOT OK.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 31, 2016, 04:07:09 PM
Sample Benton Sans news article (http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2016/08/defendant_says_he_was_fighting.html).

The body text is all raggedy bullshit for me.

It may be more than the font. Maybe something they're doing with the CSS, like you said.

With and without JavaScript:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 31, 2016, 04:09:38 PM
Tire's on backwards?  The tire can be mounted two ways on the wheel, after all.

No, the tire can't (correctly) be mounted two ways. Valve goes through the rim, so it can only go one way.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 31, 2016, 06:02:50 PM
The font needs JS to display right?  FFS!


That's a fancy and poorly designed spare tire.  I dunno, man.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 31, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
The font needs JS to display right?  FFS! [period]


FTFY. If you'll look closely, those are not the same fonts. I assume the one w/o js is my default browser font.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 01, 2016, 09:09:53 AM
:thumbsdn:  Yeah, :doh: I just went and tried it both ways.  The fact that it looks like shit in Firefox and Chrome should've clued me in that it wasn't just a JS issue.

Font bad either way.

Without JS, page loads 20 "elements" (per Opera) and takes 3-4 seconds to load.

With JS, page loads 218 elements and takes 75 seconds to load.  Two more photos, four more ads.  No real added value.

Fuck JavaScript.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 01, 2016, 09:51:42 AM
Yep.

Did you know most of Opera was bought by a Chinese consortium (https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/18/opera-browser-sold-to-a-chinese-consortium-for-600-million/)?

And then last month their sync servers were hacked. (https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/28/opera-sync-service-hack/)

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 01, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
I know they got bought out.  I lost interest in upgrading to newer version awhile ago when they switched to the Chromium engine.  Like, if I wanted to use Chrome . . . .

Opera peaked somewhere in a fantasy mix of versions 8-12.  Honestly, 12 is pretty great except that it needs more interface customization.  Still, it allows it.

I think they're up to version 28.  Something like that.  They went through a whole lot of version numbers pretty darn quick.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 02, 2016, 06:13:24 PM
Suddenly, if I go to "gmail.com" or "mail.google.com" from a fresh browser instance, I get a generic welcome screen crap kind of thing.  Sort of an odd extra step, there, Google.

There's a Sign In link.  Click it, and the Gmail sign-in page comes up in a new tab.

Uh . . . you think I'm going to use the welcome screen page for something else if I already have a Gmail account?  What's the thinking here?

Annoyingly stupid, and stupidly annoying.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 04, 2016, 02:36:42 PM
I read today's Oglaf, and Avast popped up a box offering to help me hide which sites I visit.

Shut up! 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 04, 2016, 08:29:12 PM
I read today's Oglaf,

Ah I forgot! Thank you for reminding me.

Good one.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2016, 09:28:30 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 06, 2016, 02:33:46 PM
This brings to mind Krieger frantically typing "... just let me clear the  ol'browser historAAAAAAGH!" as he's tackled by the FBI
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/cd86d5b6794be5ef36975c4da573293a/tumblr_mztm3wR9AX1tpnyuto1_500.jpg)

It's a fantastic episode. (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48f6d1)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2016, 02:59:55 PM
Still haven't seen that show.  Everything I see these days is on DVDs.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on September 06, 2016, 03:39:43 PM
it's like $15 a season on amazon for the dvds.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2016, 03:42:30 PM
I'm more broke than that.  :whatever:

The used-DVD place I used to haunt sometimes had them, but never Season One.  They recently moved, and I haven't been there since they did.  I know where they are now . . . in theory . . . and I have a bunch of DVDs to trade in, so who knows?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 06, 2016, 04:03:11 PM
The seasons stand alone pretty well, so you don't necessarily have to see season one first. I think you'd love it. It's loaded with obscure off-the-wall references, the acting/voiceovers are all great, the animation is great quality, it's just pretty great all the way around, while it seems it's not trying at all.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2016, 04:19:57 PM
It's by the Frisky Dingo people, isn't it?  I liked what I saw of Frisky Dingo.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 06, 2016, 05:09:09 PM
Apparently. I don't watch many contemporary cartoons. I wish I knew more about what is good in that world.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on September 06, 2016, 05:26:32 PM
I use Trebuchet MS as my font in everything.  I finally gave up on Arial now that I'm old and my eyes don't work as well.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on September 07, 2016, 12:42:55 AM
It's by the Frisky Dingo people, isn't it?  I liked what I saw of Frisky Dingo.

yep

i had no idea krieger's first name was algernon until tonight (LOL apropo). watching an episode from season 6.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 07, 2016, 11:01:36 PM
That first episode of S5 is just absolutely brilliant
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 10, 2016, 08:48:02 AM
This is all dumb, but:

Chrome sucks so much ass that I finally gave in and installed Firefox again, just for Hotmail / Facebook / my fancier Gmail account.  Hotmail / Outlook is an incredible trainwreck that has gotten worse in the last year or so and barely works, but I use it for newsletters and similar.

Firefox came without Flash.  Thing is, it can't / won't display Facebook videos and GIFs because of that.  GIFs?  Facebook, what are you doing?  But whatever.

I made one half-hearted attempt to add Flash, and Firefox was like, no, because security.  Which, OK, that seems fair.

I feel worse about not seeing the Facebook GIFs than the video, but Facebook is such a slow slow slow platform to begin with that, honestly, anything that speeds it up is kind of helpful.

But if you post something kickass, and I fail to Like it, and you actually notice, it's probably just that I couldn't view it.  And life goes on.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 10, 2016, 09:20:41 AM
It's a weird situation. All the browsers are going to be getting rid of Flash altogether pretty soon. Major players, like Facebook, apparently, don't seem to be getting prepared at all.

I'd be glad to help if you ever want to try to install Flash again. Just ask.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 10, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
Honestly, I only use it offline, to play a few old Flash games periodically.

Why Facebook needs Flash in order to display farking GIFs . . . probably has to do with their attempts to capture and control the content, I suppose.

I really wish we were all done with Facebook.  It's just so freakishly terrible.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 21, 2016, 11:56:51 AM
Jesus Fuckslap Christ -- how does Amazon continue on and on with such an insanely incompetent search function?

Absolutely, hands-down the single worst commercial shopping site search function I've ever used.  By a very large margin.  It's awe-inspiring.

It's not completely useless if you're searching for an exact specific thing, although it's still really bad.  But if you're trying to browse a category of things, it's . . . it's just impossibly bad.  A bewilderingly amateurish failure.

Seriously, I stopped being mad because it's just such a spectacle.  I'm going to go shop elsewhere, but I ain't even mad.  It's almost kind of amusing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 22, 2016, 05:01:38 PM
recently decided to try skype again after a while. had to download new software, register a new account - software would not work on this computer, period

hate microsoft
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on September 23, 2016, 02:36:29 AM
why
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 23, 2016, 12:08:15 PM
stupid
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 23, 2016, 02:48:44 PM
I was changing my password at Yahoo because of the hack, and Yahoo sends my associated Hotmail account a warning that "an unexpected sign-in attempt" had occurred. (Maybe unexpected because I haven't used it in 3 years?) Hotmail puts the yahoo.com email warning in the junk mail folder (which automatically periodically deletes itself). 

Yahoo recommends I delete my "personal info" for security reasons. The "personal info" yahoo required when I created the account.

:eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 23, 2016, 03:13:02 PM
hate yahoo
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 23, 2016, 03:43:31 PM
Oh shit. I screwed up the flow there didn't I? Sorry!

Anyway, the only reason I have the yahoo account is because Flickr required it. Or was it Tumblr?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 23, 2016, 07:13:18 PM
actually they're all yahoo now

hate flickr
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2016, 09:38:35 AM
I don't think I like any of the photo sites anymore, since Imgur fucked themselves up.  :shrug:

Yahoo is one of those companies where I can't believe they still exist.  Of course, I still use Hotmail, despite Microsoft constantly making it worse . . . and worse . . . and then suddenly fixing it a lot . . . and then making it worse again.

At least Google's progress into the Suck Kingdom is more of a predictable, gradual slide.  I find myself more infuriated by the giddy rollercoaster of suck that's so popular at MS.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2016, 09:41:48 AM
Kind of / sort of related is that while I do generally like CinnaMint a lot more than any recent version of Windows, there are two things that are major problems and there's one minor problem (minor for me), and it's gotten me wondering if I should try other flavors of Linux again.

Someone on Fbook sent me a link to a semi-official Try 'Em All virtual machine thing website, but the site won't load because SSL blows fancy goats.  FFS.

I need a really good Linux review site, but I haven't found one that rates them by normal-human flavorings.  In principle, I like the idea of joining a Linux message board and getting expert advice, but I just don't have the time.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 24, 2016, 10:27:38 AM
I need a really good Linux review site,

https://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/

Also if there's a particular topic you want covered? It would be easy to ask.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2016, 12:14:53 PM
Big problems (for me) with CinnaMint:

- File operations take WAY WAY WAY too long.  Example:  Plug in an external drive, wait and wait and wait while it's "loading" the directories.  And wait and wait.  Copying a lot of files also takes an insanely long time.  I have an external USB drive that, OK, has a lot of stuff on it, but every time I wake the machine up and want to look at that drive, there's a several-minute wait while it loads directory listings.

Honestly, don't pre-cache that stuff if it's going to be slower than not caching it.  Windows is crappy enough at this.


- Keyboard support is abysmal.  REALLY bad.  Tons of stuff doesn't have any hotkeys, and keyboard operations aren't cached well.  For instance, Alt-Tab switches tasks, yes, but you can't just hit it.  You have to hold Alt for a considerably thick moment or the system drops the command.


The minor problem is how non-portable it is.  You can't easily download self-executable install packages for stuff.  You can easily install stuff from the internet, or you can learn SUDO and shit and download packages and install them manually from a command prompt.  There's no in-between.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 24, 2016, 12:16:22 PM
WOW, that blog comes up as very low-contrast.  :trance:  I have to set it to User Mode to make it readable.  Thank god for Opera.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on September 26, 2016, 03:00:35 PM
explains /close_previous

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hate yahoo
why

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hate flickr
why

Anyway the yahoo sports redesign really really reallygoogol pisses me off.  It used to be easy to go between the box scores of sportsball, and now it's all socialmediaesque with tons of video ads, slow loading time, having to find the game in question, then waiting for the stupid ad to load, then clicking on the box score link, then waiting for the stupid ad to load, then checking the stuff, then having to click on some other link, then having to go through the same process to check out the next game of interest and repeating the whole fucking process.  And then a task that used to take 10 minutes takes an hour and their marketing people say, "look people are spending 6X as much time on the site so they're obviously more engaged and thus our redesign is a success" :cyber:  :soapbox: :banghead: :gfy: :fyp:

Anyway espn appears to be less horrible but not as good as the yahoo site used to be.  My son is probably even more pissed off as he's a huge sports fan.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 26, 2016, 04:04:32 PM
And then a task that used to take 10 minutes takes an hour and their marketing people say, "look people are spending 6X as much time on the site so they're obviously more engaged and thus our redesign is a success"

I think my visualization of such scenarios is what aggravates me the most.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 26, 2016, 07:07:00 PM
stupid
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 26, 2016, 07:07:06 PM
stupid
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 27, 2016, 10:48:40 AM
Yeah, actually, the Yahoo sports pages used to be really good, and they'd gone down a couple of steps . . . but this last change is a tumble down the staircase to the point where I can't even see them down there, wherever they ended up.

I just use Reddit sports links now.  It's not good, but the internet doesn't seem to have much good sports content anymore.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on September 27, 2016, 12:57:13 PM
explains

explains
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 28, 2016, 10:32:50 AM
Facebook just started doing a thing where every time I get a goddamned pop-up notification -- and I have never wanted a single pop-up notification; I have always wanted very much to never get a pop-up notification -- every time one of them pops up, Facebook moves the focus point of the browser to that pop-up.

SO, let's say I'm typing a comment . . . typing stops.  What?  Cursor has been invisibly moved against my will to a pop-up.  If I hit Enter, Facebook abandons the News Feed and takes me to whatever the pop-up was yammering about.  And you KNOW you can't reload the News Feed where you were!  No, you go back to the top, which has now changed.  You're fucked.

Jesus Piss-Shivering Christ.  I swear to god, they are fucking with us.  No one could design something this bad by accident.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on October 12, 2016, 06:37:35 PM
I need a really good Linux review site,

https://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/

Also if there's a particular topic you want covered? It would be easy to ask.

Oh hey, I know that one.


WOW, that blog comes up as very low-contrast.  :trance:  I have to set it to User Mode to make it readable.  Thank god for Opera.

:lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 15, 2016, 03:16:59 PM
Sometimes I use Gmail to type myself notes or jot down information I'm liable to lose.  Usually I just let Gmail autosave what I'm writing, and I leave it as a draft.  Then I can easily retrieve the info from my phone, or wherever.

WELL, today I went looking through old drafts (I had 149 of them saved up) and discovered that many of them retained the subject line but no content.  It's just a blank note.  Sometimes on drafts as recent as from last week.

F F S, Google.  :stbm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 03, 2016, 08:53:01 AM
Not really sure this counts as complaining, but I turned off Prefetch in Chrome's settings, for the hell of it, and immediately Chrome loads most webpages like eight times faster.  Background tabs started working better again, too.

Version 49.something.something.  :shrug:  I think maybe ( ? ) half of it is that every antivirus app I've used hates Chrome's screwing around and has slowed Chrome and the machine in general while scrutinizing Chrome's shenanigans.  Hard to tell for sure.

I wish I could convince Chrome to give me actual blank tabs when I open a new tab, and so on, but I'm not going to bother looking for plug-ins, especially not until I can switch work machines to Linux.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 03, 2016, 12:08:55 PM
I only tried Chrome like once, a long time ago. Seems like it would have a preference setting to open a blank tab though.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 03, 2016, 12:22:22 PM
I don't know if this fits here, but I just spent an hour waiting to vote, standing in a stuffy hot corridor with a bunch of coughing, sniffling people. At least it was indoors. The first place I went to had people lined up way out into the parking lot, and it's pretty warm here today - like 80 degrees.

I can't imagine how we used to do this in one day now.

Early voting here started back on the 17th, and it's been running ever since. Granted, up until Monday, those polling places were limited and further away for most people. That's why I put it off until this week. I thought by Thursday, it would have slowed down a little.

I didn't see much inefficiency with the system. Based on the number of machines and volunteers they had, it was run pretty well. I think the main problem was people not having a clue about what they were going to vote for other than President. We've got 4 amendments on the ballot that are worded terribly, as they always are, intentionally.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on November 03, 2016, 12:48:27 PM
Our usual polling place isn't terrible - it's usually a wait of <15 minutes on election days. Don't know how long it'll be this time. There's two voting districts in there, and some people don't remember if they're Orange or Green.

Besides the President and Congress, we've got 4 judges, 15 state propositions, 3 city and 4 county measures. Wednesday should be a day off so you can empty your brain of all the stuff you've had to study. Go out to a park and fly kites or something like that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 03, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
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There's two voting districts in there, and some people don't remember if they're Orange or Green.

Is that the Soylent system?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on November 03, 2016, 03:35:33 PM
 :thumbsup:

I kept going to Irish and that was too depressing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 05, 2016, 10:13:08 AM
We've been calling the alleged Trump Revolution the Soylent Majority.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 27, 2016, 03:39:48 PM
Had to go to the Healthcare.gov website today.

It asked me a couple of Seekrit Security Questions to make sure I was me, despite me, you know, logging on with my secret username and secret password. 

I hate fucking Security Questions.  They're always either things that are trivial for someone else to find out or things that basically you're making up or deciding on a whim -- and then you have to remember them later.  So they're PASSWORDS, is what they really are, except you'll almost never use them.  Good luck with that.  It's idiotic.

But in this case, each time the site asked me a Security Question, it put my answer into the answer field automatically for me.

Well, then.

Um.

Fuck it.  WHATEVER.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 27, 2016, 04:10:31 PM
:galm:  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on November 28, 2016, 01:33:31 AM
I just use cookieface as the answer to each one of mine.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 28, 2016, 10:19:09 AM
SO it told me I needed to log in to update my info.  It told me I was automatically re-enrolled for next year, but I still needed to update.  Well, OK.  Update what?

Went through, nothing changed since last year.

Now it's emailed me to tell me I'm disqualified for next year unless I "upload documentation", and the link that's supposed to have a list of the documentation in question ( :shrug: ) doesn't work.

Oh.  Good.

I really don't want to call them.  Not to mention that uploading documentation, whatever it is, over the phone . . . that's gonna suck.

WELP, the email says I have until almost the end of February, so maybe their link will start working soon.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on November 30, 2016, 06:26:29 PM
It asked me a couple of Seekrit Security Questions to make sure I was me, despite me, you know, logging on with my secret username and secret password. 

I hate fucking Security Questions.

I went through that today. I think what you went through was a review of your account to see if anything had changed since last year, and they were providing you the opportunity to update your security questions.

You could think of security questions as being more secure than passwords, in a way. Like if you use a password like FVGBHjikeop293784 for the prompt "What is your pet's name?".

I'm just happy I can still get insurance, for the time being. Ignoring the fact that I have to pay out the ass for something that is basically worthless unless something catastrophic happens. It's still better than what's coming, I have no doubt about that.

I've never done the upload documentation thing. I came close once, in having to prove my identity, and I dreaded the prospect.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 30, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
Exactly that.  I can only afford to use it as if it were collision coverage.  And I have to worry about establishing a Pre-Existing Condition, of course.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 01, 2016, 07:54:25 AM
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Maybe the whole Obamacare thing was just a recon plot by the insurance companies.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on December 08, 2016, 03:39:27 PM
SO I was going to set up home internet through ACD.net, as they're cheaper, better, and less evil than the other options available.

They want my Social Security Number so they can run a credit check.  What?  No, fuck you, you can't have my SSN and you can't run a credit check.  WTF?  I'm autopaying by credit card.  If the payment is ever declined, turn off the DSL.  That's all.

Tried to comment on it.  Their online commenting thing doesn't work.  Uh, OK.  WELL, I went to Facebook, searched for them.  Found an 'official' page, apparently, which, uh . . . which has ACD.net listed as a person who works at ACD.net.

:uncertain:

Never mind.

I'll figure something out.

Maybe I'll actually use the phone and call.  Although now I'm a little unsettled about the idea of speaking to anyone there.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on December 08, 2016, 06:23:51 PM
They seem like a legit company. I think big companies don't even expect anyone to resist anymore, just bend over.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 14, 2017, 01:36:07 PM
Had to use a Windows 7 machine the other day, and it reminded me of how much I farking despise every version of Windows after XP.  The user interface is just so very, very, very, very terrible.  It's infuriating at almost every moment.

My blood pressure also suffered greatly yesterday while trying like hell to get Gmail to NOT consider a block of text to be quoted material.  I even tried cutting it, pasting it into Wordpad using Paste Special | No Formatting and then pasting it back.

Looked right.  LOOKED right.  But of course Gmail doesn't tell you shit about what it's doing.  The person on the other end is a little clueless, though, and they got a 'blank' message that only had that magical "..." that means there's what Gmail calls "trimmed content".

Thanks a fucking lot, Google.  Please stop deciding for me what content is worth displaying and what isn't.  Your software isn't any better at censoring emails than it is at censoring ads.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on January 14, 2017, 10:54:37 PM
Burn!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 15, 2017, 12:59:29 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 19, 2017, 05:22:40 PM
Because Chrome sucks and Google hates humans, I can't seem to find a way to make Chrome understand that I don't give permission for a tab to reload on its own recognizance.  You know, like any decent browser would understand.

I've tried a couple of extensions, but they don't seem to work.  I need a way to be able to open a page, and despite having JavaScript enabled in order to render it, nevertheless not letting that page perform online activity on its own.  It needs to be dead.  Naturally, a hyperlink on it should still work, but the page shouldn't update, report in, etc.

In particular, Facebook's Notifications page has recently started auto-refreshing any time I get a notification.  This is phenomenally stupid and not Google's fault, but it's Google's fault that I have no control over downloaded content being rendered in my browser.  The upshot of this is that I get like 120 notifications, most of them stupid, and it's bad enough that Facebook won't let me control what I get notified about or what order they appear in, but it's a live page that I have to scroll, scroll, scroll through.

Then someone Likes some goddamned thing, and the page fucking reloads.  And I have to wait for it, then scroll, scroll, scroll . . . .

Fuck Facebook and Google.  I want that page to just goddamn well sit there until I tell it to do something.

Is there an extension for Chrome that actually gives you control over whether a page reloads on its own?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 19, 2017, 06:46:11 PM
Nope.  It's a "feature".  It typically happens when you're using more RAM than Chrome feels comfortable with, so it "suspends" tabs that aren't currently focused so as to devote more memory to active tabs.

Then, when you click on one of those inactive tabs it reloads them (because they're technically not utilizing any active memory when they're not focused).

No way to fix this except to either minimize your memory usage, or add more RAM to the computer.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 20, 2017, 03:07:24 PM
Well, fuck Chrome, then.  :shrug:  I've never really thought much of it, anyway.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 20, 2017, 05:14:46 PM
Firefox will put a bar across the top of the screen that says, "firefox stopped this page from automatically reloading" and has an "allow" button. I don't remember if it's the default setting... so if it's not, in your options/preferences, under the "advanced" tab, under the "general" sub-tab, check the box before "Warn me when sites try to reload or redirect".
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 20, 2017, 05:48:12 PM
Yeah, I tried it in Firefox today.  It's still Facebook, but I didn't have those problems.  Much better.  :thumbsup:

If  [ older better ] versions of Opera would just let me set JS, etc, to be on only for a specific window, I'd just use Opera for it, but so it goes.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 20, 2017, 06:34:48 PM
Firefox is kind of a clusterfuck these days.  Give this (https://www.palemoon.org/) a shot as an alternative.  I've discovered it's a lot better.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 20, 2017, 07:19:37 PM
Firefox is kind of a clusterfuck these days.  Give this (https://www.palemoon.org/) a shot as an alternative.  I've discovered it's a lot better.

Agree about FFx, but I don't know that palemoon is a long-term alternative, is it?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 21, 2017, 01:36:36 AM
Remember that purchasing system Campus got that's so insanely bad? Well, at this point, it only works with Chrome. :galm: :stbm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 21, 2017, 10:34:58 AM
:hmm:  I'll definitely take a look at that. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 22, 2017, 06:36:26 PM
Firefox is kind of a clusterfuck these days.  Give this (https://www.palemoon.org/) a shot as an alternative.  I've discovered it's a lot better.

Agree about FFx, but I don't know that palemoon is a long-term alternative, is it?

I've been using it for 2 or 3 years now without any issues, though admittedly not as my primary browser.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 24, 2017, 10:31:56 AM
Haven't had a chance to try the Pale Moon yet, but it's definitely not all Chrome's fault.  I now can't get Facebook to work properly with Chrome, Firefox, or Opera, including under Win 8 and [ ugh fucking ugh ] Win 10.

In Chrome, the notifications won't work right.  In Firefox, I routinely lose the ability to make comments, which is apparently a problem that's recurred with Firefox / Facebook over the last several years, despite many version changes on both sides. 

With Opera . . . Facebook now displays correctly, which it's never done with any other browser.  I didn't realize Facebook could display correctly, but in Opera the various vertical Facebook elements (like News Feed, Chat, ads and other Shit We Want You To Look At) display side by side instead of fighting each other for the same display real estate.  It's almost non-shitty. 

Alas, in Opera the News Feed often grinds to a halt and refuses to unwind automatically in that moronic Facebook indefinite-webpage kind of way.

SO, aside from forcing myself to endure it for work-related pages, I may have to give up Facebook.  Not exactly a bad thing, but it's almost the only place I see most people I know online, anymore.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 24, 2017, 10:35:06 AM
Incidentally, seriously, I don't understand how anyone puts up with Windows 10.  I really, really hate 7 and 8, but 10 is just a huge heap of bullshit.  I had the choice yesterday of going online with 10 or killing time aimlessly without internet access, and killing time aimlessly was the far better choice. 

I can't remember a time when I thought Microsoft was on target, but even I can't really understand how they could have gone THAT wrong.  I'd rather buy a Mac, if it came to that.  Thank god for Linux.

That said, I hooked my Linux machine up to the net yesterday morning and ran the Update Manager.  It'd been like two years since it was connected, so naturally it found lots of updates.  Then it said it couldn't authenticate some of them, so it recommended I didn't install them.  But it wouldn't, say, tell me which ones were authenticated.

:eyeroll:

WHATEVER.  I never take that machine online, and it works fine, so . . . to hell with it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on January 24, 2017, 06:41:23 PM
One of my sisters, who admittedly is very non-tech, had major problems with Windows 10 to the point she got M$ to roll back the update on her machine somehow. She had to rebuild all of her email and bookmarks and stuff. She was really pissed off with it.

Mac is not doing much better right now. They are really floundering. It seems the iPhone is all they can handle. Their latest laptop is a total disaster. People are changing platforms over it. Their desktop hardware hasn't been updated in ages.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 24, 2017, 07:09:48 PM
Incidentally, seriously, I don't understand how anyone puts up with Windows 10.  I really, really hate 7 and 8, but 10 is just a huge heap of bullshit.

This. ^

Quote
That said, I hooked my Linux machine up to the net yesterday morning and ran the Update Manager.  It'd been like two years since it was connected, so naturally it found lots of updates.  Then it said it couldn't authenticate some of them, so it recommended I didn't install them.  But it wouldn't, say, tell me which ones were authenticated.

So, what's happened there is probably your update sources going out of date (which can happen over time in a distro that isn't a "Long Term Support" version).

You may need to go into your update manager and find where you an update "Software Sources" (I don't remember what it's under -- dig around in the menus for it, it's not hard to find) and pick a different one from the list of available sources.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on January 25, 2017, 10:05:11 AM
Yeah, that sounds promising.

If not, it's literally not hard to just back up my files, jot down the few things I've installed that I gotta have (a lite word processing program that's pretty good, and . . . actually, that might be it), and then just install a newer version of the OS.  It takes less time than running a full Malwarebytes scan in Windows.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on January 26, 2017, 07:34:21 PM
Yeah, that sounds promising.

If not, it's literally not hard to just back up my files, jot down the few things I've installed that I gotta have (a lite word processing program that's pretty good, and . . . actually, that might be it), and then just install a newer version of the OS.  It takes less time than running a full Malwarebytes scan in Windows.

This is also true.  If you're running a Mint release that's old enough for the update sources to be going out of date, it's probably time to wipe and install the newer version anyway! :detta:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 10, 2017, 05:10:51 PM
Can I just say:  Speaker phones apparently still suck, and that includes the speaker phone function of cell phones.

I answer the phone all day, and a hell of a lot of people clearly thinking their speaker phone works great.  It does not.  Call a friend to try it out, and then assume they are being overly kind with their evaluation of how well your speaker phone works.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 13, 2017, 05:11:24 PM
OK, so, I'm at work, but at Archives.  I only ever log into Gmail here from a Mozilla Private Browsing window, and I always specifically log out anyway.  Because I'm, what, paranoid or tidy or something.

Anyway, I open Mozilla, open a Private Browsing window.  Go to YouTube.  Hey, the 'recommended' videos are all ones I've watched at Curious.

FUCK YOU, GOOGLE.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 13, 2017, 06:38:54 PM
Yeah, the youtube recommendations are creepy and often puzzling as well.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 14, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
That ain't just creepy.  That's spying on me.  Google shouldn't have any idea that it's the same person or any related person.

And they certainly shouldn't be so lazy and casual about it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 14, 2017, 12:05:13 PM
Downloading a big Linux file in Opera.  Wait . . . wait . . . wait . . . wait.  Jeez, slow frickin' server.

Chrome's running in the background, although literally all I had open was a single blank tab.  I'm ready to give up on the download and close everything down, so I close Chrome, and . . . suddenly the download picks up speed like a maniac.

:nonplused:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 14, 2017, 01:35:56 PM
That ain't just creepy.  That's spying on me.  Google shouldn't have any idea that it's the same person or any related person.

And they certainly shouldn't be so lazy and casual about it.

Just posted yesterday: Now sites can fingerprint you online even when you use multiple browsers (https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/now-sites-can-fingerprint-you-online-even-when-you-use-multiple-browsers/)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on February 14, 2017, 02:35:39 PM
Weird Al (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY) should re-do this for our current police/advertising/surveillance state.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2017, 11:09:29 AM
Yesterday I got to format the drive of a Windows 10 computer and install Mint on it instead.  Almost as good as sex.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 25, 2017, 02:23:55 PM
you're having the wrong kind of sex.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 25, 2017, 03:59:35 PM
No, it's just that erasing an install of Windows 10 is like getting $10k tax-free.  Feels good, man.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 02, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
I think this belongs here: Accidents waiting to happen (http://designyoutrust.com/2017/04/accidents-waiting-to-happen-thanks-to-these-architects-and-designers/)

Talk about bad design though, I looked at the first two pictures for a few seconds trying figure out what the relationship was.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 02, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
:galm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 03, 2017, 08:50:30 AM
IT'S NOT FUNNY!!!

 :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on April 03, 2017, 01:11:05 PM
I love the bathroom with the mirrored ceiling.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 04, 2017, 09:20:18 AM
I feel like the This Table one needs the camera to pull back.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 04, 2017, 09:30:07 AM
I think that must be a train or subway seat, and that table folds down into your lap. That angle is so the edge of the table doesn't press into your arms as you rest them on the edge. So the picture is misleading, as several of them are. Some look photoshopped too. I think the majority are authentic though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 28, 2017, 11:41:56 AM
I finally dropped my cell phone and broke its screen.  Fuck.  I dread buying a new one and getting it hooked into my current awesome plan, yadda yadda.

Can't buy one directly from VirginMobile because they'll only ship it to my CC billing address, which means the Post Office won't deliver it (a whole separate thing), and, if they did, it'd be stolen before I could pick it up.  :eyeroll:

Meanwhile, over at Amazon . . . the product descriptions are incredibly incomplete, and I don't have the farking time to google the crap out of every phone.  Hell, I'm so old and out of date that I can't tell which phones I'd be able to hook into my current plan and which ones I couldn't.

I'm going to have to have someone younger do this for me.  FFS.  I knew I should've just bought three phones when I bought this one.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 28, 2017, 11:44:53 AM
Actually, the internet says "Just go buy one at Meijer."

WELL.  I guess, if they have ones old enough to make me happy.  Worth a shot.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 28, 2017, 01:40:21 PM
You can still buy fliptops if you want, for like $10-15. My "smart" phone was only like $30 - a Lumia, which are very common. I've finally learned if I can't figure out how to do something on it, I just search youtube and there'll be some video of a kid explaining to me. Much better than the instruction manual.

Just be sure to ask what the return policy is. I got stuck with a fliptop because the return policy for cellphones at the store was different than the return policy for everything else.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 28, 2017, 03:07:54 PM
My broken one is an LG Tribute.  $40, does everything I actually want to do with my phone.  The plan I have is $35 a month and also covers everything I want to do with my phone. 

The later LG models that are allegedly similar aren't that much more expensive -- well, they are proportionally, but they run like $60-$90.  BUT they don't fit in your pants pocket if you wear normal jeans, don't fit in a typical shirt pocket either, are reportedly clumsy or impossible to use one-handed, and often have their buttons on the back instead of on the sides, which I sense would not work for me, since the buttons on the sides (A) haven't given me any trouble and (B) work perfectly with the phone armor I already have.

So those sound like a crappy deal.  Of course, my phone is pretty old by now, and Amazon doesn't appear to have them.  It's hard to tell, because Amazon's search function is utter Mickey Mouse incompetent bullshit.  (I know, it's because they're trying to control what you buy, but Fuck You, Amazon.)

Meanwhile, if I buy a goddamned phone that I can't use with the plan I have now, I'm probably going to put it in the garbage disposal and ruin my plumbing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 28, 2017, 06:22:42 PM
I almost started a post in the shopping thread earlier this week about Amazon. I was going to ask if there's like a guide somewhere that tells you how avoid all the system exploitation.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on April 29, 2017, 01:51:28 AM
50mph wind when i got to work today. opened my door and the wind caught my door out of my hand.

major body/door damage. it will probably be $2000. the car is worth a lot less than that. fuck

it wouldn't be so bad if the door closed all the way now. the lack of body damage was one of thee best things about this car, not to mention the fact that i just spent $1300 on it last week.

what a shitty day.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 29, 2017, 08:08:09 AM
That sucks. I wouldn't have even thought that was possible.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 29, 2017, 09:10:37 AM
If the car isn't worth much, money-wise, can you just have someone bodge it back together?  If the wind damaged body panels, well, they can be bent back, even if they aren't pretty.  If the hinge or bearing or whatever was damaged, that's probably going to be more expensive, but a scrapyard should have an identical undamaged door fairly cheaply.  Matching color might not be available . . . .
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 29, 2017, 09:12:45 AM
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I was going to ask if there's like a guide somewhere that tells you how avoid all the system exploitation.

Every damned time the search engine screws me, I complain about it with the feedback thing at the bottom, under the "Something is broken" category, since they don't have good categories.

Sometimes -- sometimes -- the Google Shopping search will return better results for Amazon than Amazon's own search engine will, but Google searches went downhill sharply around the time they farked with the logic to accommodate Google Plus.  Sometimes I almost think Google Plus was just a distraction to make people not notice how much Google was taking searches out of the user's hands.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 29, 2017, 09:15:37 AM
Meijer had an LG phone seemingly very equivalent to my existing phone, except not broken, for $40.  Walmart apparently has the same phone for $30, but I hate Walmart enough to be willing to pay an extra $10. 

Unfortunately, Meijer only had the boxes marketed to Boost Mobile.  The internet, including Virgin Mobile's own pages, seems divided on whether these phones only work with Boost Mobile or if they can also take Virgin Mobile plans.  I'm not switching MSPs, so this may have been a failed $40 experiment, but maybe I'll actually resell the damn phone for $20 or something if I can't use it.

History suggests I won't.  But who knows?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 29, 2017, 02:07:14 PM
The phones are marked by brand based on the kind of sim card they have, if I'm not mistaken. I don't think they are interchangeable, but I could be wrong. I'm obviously no expert.

What OS is it?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 29, 2017, 02:37:51 PM
re: Amazon, I had bought an item on Amazon like a week ago, and then bought a few more items to get up enough for free shipping, but they were things I had been wanting anyway. When the item arrives, it’s not quite what I wanted, so I returned it. I found a replacement, and then tried to think of something else to add for free shipping.

I came up with colored t-shirts. I think this (https://www.amazon.com/Gildan-ISH-G-SAVANA-F-GREEN-WHITE-M/dp/B01D4W2R88/ref=sr_1_4?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1493493296&sr=1-4&nodeID=7141123011&psd=1&keywords=t-shirts) (but not those colors) was the item I came up with. 10 shirts. Look at the price range - $1- $118. Obviously there is a problem with the $1 vendor. They are marked as “Just Launched”. The next price above that is like $6/shirt. I’ve bought similar utility shirts for like $4, so I was hoping to find something in that range. I went back to the main page to search for t-shirts, and tried the different ‘sort-by’ options, and tried ‘low to high’, and got a bunch of $0.01 results.

I tried some more stuff, but eventually gave up and never bought the item I was wanting originally. When I come up with something I need I’ll go back.

I didn’t really want to risk buying 10 t-shirts at a time from them anyway. If I didn't like them, which was quite possible, the whole process would have to start over again.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 29, 2017, 03:31:07 PM
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What OS is it?

Android Marshmallow.  As if that even makes sense.  Maybe it's a reference to Mike Pence.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 29, 2017, 03:59:51 PM
Back to the sim card - Verizon may be able to supply you with their particular sim card, if it is not a different shape. I think. Be prepared for it to be a hassle, so you won't be disappointed  ;)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 29, 2017, 04:21:04 PM
Virgin, not Verizon.  Honestly, if it's a big PITA, I'll just buy another phone, since they're $40.  It's not great, but I've had worse.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on April 29, 2017, 05:45:39 PM
Vhatever. Your old sim card might work too.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 01, 2017, 12:35:42 AM
My dumb phone is an LG. I'm really not looking forward to when it dies.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 03, 2017, 10:35:14 AM
Finally heard back from Virgin Mobile.  They advised me to try Boost Mobile.

Uhhh . . . your advice is to switch to another service provider?  Over a phone that costs less than one month's service?  Are you stupid or crazy?  WTF?

I emailed back and asked to speak to someone less crazy.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 03, 2017, 10:56:12 AM
Virgin went way out of their way to not have me as a customer. I think it's part of their overall strategy. Sprint (their parent company) is working very hard to eliminate their customer base as well.  The Sprint coverage in Minnesota has gotten to the point where I no longer view them as a viable provider here.

I've been reduced to using wifi calling because it's the only reliable way for me to make/receive phone calls.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 03, 2017, 12:28:43 PM
Wow.



I haven't been able to check back to see if there's been a new response, because Hotmail's suffering from network attacks of some kind and can't manage HTTPS to these parts right now.  That's been on and off for a couple of days, but it's worse today, huzzah.

:eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on May 03, 2017, 04:26:04 PM
Virgin went way out of their way to not have me as a customer. I think it's part of their overall strategy. Sprint (their parent company) is working very hard to eliminate their customer base as well.  The Sprint coverage in Minnesota has gotten to the point where I no longer view them as a viable provider here.

I've been reduced to using wifi calling because it's the only reliable way for me to make/receive phone calls.  :rolleyes:

We were loyal Sprint customers for years, because their billing was so fucked up we only received two bills (both were only for the monthly amount) over three years.  It was fun answering other telcos sales pitches with, "well we have Sprint and we're basically getting the service for free.  Can you beat that?".  Once they fixed their billing we went to ATT.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 07, 2017, 11:30:34 AM
WELP got my new phone, managed to activate it.  It's an LG K3, which is pretty similar to the Tribute, and honestly I'm not sure of the engineering differences.  They seem subtle.  The camera arrangement is slightly different, and the K3 makes a much better flashlight, although I already carry a good flashlight.  Still, I like flashlights.

On the other hand, it's just different enough so the armor I already have won't fit.  Of course.  Also, it has weirdly rounded edges, which . . . honestly, I can't see how that's a feature, but it has drawbacks.  And, like most phones, it has a nonstick coating undeniably designed to make you drop the thing and have to buy a new one, so nonslip armor is a must.

However:

- The Android 6 on it seems awfully shitty.  The scroll doesn't work properly; it's nonlinear, inconsistent, hard to control, and seems to be trying to guess how far I want to scroll, except it's never a good guess.  The 'desktop' is a big downgrade from whatever the hell version I had on my last phone, with less real estate, less flexibility, and a truly bewildering customization process that is not self-explanatory and does not come with explanations. 

Similarly, a lot of things I use a lot are in new less-convenient places.  Possibly on purpose, to keep people like me from screwing with them.  :whatever:


- This install does not have the Android browser, just Chrome, and, in fact, it's very heavy with Google Shit.  I realize some people no doubt love the Google Shit, but personally I have no use or admiration for pretty much any of it.  Google has basically become Microsoft, as far as I'm concerned.

The Android browser wasn't great, but I used it for Nixle and my work Gmail accounts, and it was terrific for that.  Meanwhile, I used Mobile Chrome for my personal Gmail accounts, news sites, weather, Wikipedia, etc.  That worked really well.

The version of Mobile Chrome I had on my old phone (v 34) was astonishingly good -- much better than any other version of Chrome I've used, I have to say.  Tab management was good, resource management was good, speed was good, it was pretty easy to toggle JS on and off, etc.  I could leave it running in the background for weeks at a time without the slightest problem.  It did a great job with autosuggest, and the no-URL-yet new-tab screen showed a useful ( ! ) view of thumbnails of sites I often visit.

The new version (v 55) is utterly atrocious.  I feel a twinge of self-disgust every time I use it.  Tab management is infinitely worse, the new-tab screen is a low-use abomination, Google has decided a new place for the address bar (the middle of the screen) is what everyone needs, and the browser constantly decides what's good for me.

Perhaps best of all, it doesn't work properly with Gmail.  Hola!  I think (I guess?) this is intentional and an attempt to force me to use the Gmail app, which is not going to happen.  My favorite part of this particular fiasco is that this version of Chrome refuses to let me log in to Gmail without sending a text to my phone number, except the phone number it wants to use is xxxed out except for the last two digits . . . which are not the last two digits of my number.  :nonplused:


There's all that regular crap.  Apps I don't want but can't uninstall, although, with some futzing, I can force-stop and disable them.  Still, I'll have to download and install a new browser, and there's almost no storage left.  HRM.  We'll see.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 07, 2017, 12:22:43 PM
Here's another one: 

My old phone let me set up a four-knock two-quadrant knock code to unlock it.  Worked great every time.

The new phone requires a minimumsix-knock three-quadrant code if I want to use a knock code.  And it takes three tries to unlock it, every fucking time.

OR I could opt to not have a lock code of any kind.  But if I want one, it's not up to me what's good enough.

This is why we have murders.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 07, 2017, 03:11:00 PM
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undeniably designed to make you drop the thing

I'm certain of this. It would be easy to alter the designs very slightly and improve the ...holdability?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 07, 2017, 03:27:50 PM
Seriously.  I did a fingertip test, and my Teflon pans aren't nearly as slippery.  It's embarrassingly bold bullshit.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 08, 2017, 06:08:55 AM
The 'desktop' is a big downgrade from whatever the hell version I had on my last phone, with less real estate, less flexibility, and a truly bewildering customization process that is not self-explanatory and does not come with explanations. 

I've never liked the default launchers most handset makers use in Android (or even the stock Android launcher after v5), but this makes for a much better experience (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en), and as a bonus, it's free.

I actually use the paid version, which gives even more flexibility and options, but I used the free version for over a year with no problems.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 08, 2017, 01:30:54 PM
Huh.  I may look into that.  I don't suppose you can download that stuff on a desktop and transfer it to the phone over USB?

I was irritated that the Chrome on my phone has no Reload button.  Clerk showed me how to scroll to top, drag down, release, to reload the page.  Fuck that and put the button back.  Especially since the scrolling doesn't work properly.

I can't stress enough that software designers need to offer at least two flavors of interfaces for major software.  We've moved past the time when everyone knew the Lotus 1-2-3 quick keys, but if you change the GUI every six months you're just a tiny dick with bad breath.


Also:  My phone has a large assortment of equally horrible ringtones, but not, you know, a ringing noise or similar.  Every single one of them sounds like an electronic jingle that plays at the end of an ad everyone really fucking hates.  I suspect this is an attempt to get you to buy ringtones, but it's an affront to God and humankind alike.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on May 08, 2017, 05:50:25 PM
Huh.  I may look into that.  I don't suppose you can download that stuff on a desktop and transfer it to the phone over USB?


Not easily.  It's easier to just do it via the Google Store app.  Just search for "nova launcher" with it and it's the first thing that comes up.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 08, 2017, 06:15:41 PM
I hate the Google apps, but I'll take a swing at it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 20, 2017, 05:31:56 PM
I don't think any device that reads DVDs that I have owned has lasted more than a few years. I've been through at least two TV DVD burner/players, and then they became hard to find so I just gave up on that. Now my DVD drive in my computer has crapped out. I hardly ever use it, but I have a document on a disk I don't want to have to retype. It's a lot of critical stuff that I can't make an error on. It shows nothing on a PC. I have old Macs in the closet I could drag out and hook up to keyboard, mouse and monitor. I could buy an external drive for $30 or so. I figure if I did that though, my computer would finally die and I'd end up with a useless peripheral. I considered buying one at Office Depot or whatever, transferring the file and then returning it to the store. I feel dirty doing that, but it would be the easiest solution.

 :hmm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on May 20, 2017, 05:36:51 PM
Oh, and my power supply backup died same day  :stbm:

Replacement battery: $40
New unit: $90

I've always gone for the new unit, but I think I'll replace the battery this time. It seems like this ought to be getting cheaper/better with battery tech advances.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 01, 2017, 10:26:56 AM
Over the last week, my new phone has developed a consistent and somewhat alarming new feature:  Instead of losing about 1-1.5% of battery capacity per hour when it's in sleep mode at night, it loses 30-50% all of a sudden between about 4:30-6 AM every night.

UM.

I googled but didn't find anyone else describing this particular issue.  I turn Data off when I'm not using the browser, but I'm going to try turning Airplane Mode on tonight before I go to sleep.  If that doesn't work, I'll manually power it off.  Perhaps a lead box will be necessary.

The battery monitor app, such as it is, claims about 40% of power usage, the single largest block, is Cell Standby, which seems unlikely. 

While trying to investigate, I did notice that Google Services turned itself back on, after being disabled, and gave itself a shit ton of permissions (like being able to use the microphone and camera) that I specifically denied it.  So, you know, huzzah, fuckingoogle.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 01, 2017, 01:55:47 PM
I've been having similar experiences. Maybe Earth's power is being drained discreetly.

As phones are designed to be dropped, so they are to lose power, it seems. Not so much by physical design as by software added on. It took me a while to figure out that apps were still running after I thought I had quit. There's no way someone could figure that out intuitively on my phone. They would have to read the instructions, and we know how people are about that.

But I shouldn't complain. Mine has great battery performance, apparently.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 01, 2017, 02:12:02 PM
Mine used to have a good capacity.  Used to be, I'd have it at or close to 100% when I went to bed, and it'd be close to 90% when I got up.  Lately, it's more like 40% or lower when I get up, and all the power drain is in one 30-60 minute period for no apparent reason.

I was up at 5 AM this morning and checked it, and it seemed to be doing nothing.  So naturally the extra power drain was between 5:45 and 6:30, this time.  :nonplused:

I did manage to turn off most of the extra Google crap again.  Some of it, the buttons are grayed out.  FFS.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 01, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
I meant to mention: I keep data always turned off until I need it (I hardly ever use the phone, period), and I would have sworn it has switched by itself before. It hasn't done that in a long time though, so I dunno.

It's been 3 days since I charged mine, it says it has 7 days left. I don't think it will make it that far, but a week would not surprise me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 02, 2017, 09:14:45 AM
Phone in airplane mode overnight . . . lost only 2% of its battery.  SO I guess the phone was getting up to broadcast shenanigans it's not supposed to and/or the Google Play shit I turned off again was doing stuff without permission. 

Whatever it was, apparently it can turn Data back on without permission but it can't turn Airplane Mode off.  Which I guess is borderline nice.

Anyone use AVG for Android on their phone?  For all I know, the Google security crap that came with my phone is crap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on June 02, 2017, 01:50:38 PM
Car accident on Sunday, mom dies on Monday, car dies on Wednesday.  This progression doesn't bode well for tomorrow.
/math_nerd
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 02, 2017, 02:02:56 PM
:shamrock: x a lot
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 02, 2017, 03:00:43 PM
Here's hoping that completes the triad.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on June 02, 2017, 03:56:44 PM
I'll check back in on Sunday if nothing happens on Saturday.  But then again it could be some other sequence.  Not enough data yet :galm:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on June 02, 2017, 04:18:14 PM
Check so you don't divide by zero, please.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 02, 2017, 04:30:37 PM
Dang. :shamrock:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on June 05, 2017, 12:20:08 AM
Nothing horrible happened, except for a  few lacerations from rose bushes and an orange tree.  So that must mean, it's a more difficult algorithm apparently.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 17, 2017, 11:48:25 AM
This mouse. I just bought it within the past couple years, I think. When scrolling, I've been accidentally wheel-clicking lately. I finally realized it was because the wheel was hard to turn, so I took it apart and cleaned everything, but still, part of the revolution was hard to turn, the rest of the revolution was easy. I had to get a piece of sandpaper and sand down one side of the wheel. Now it works fine.

 :hmm:

Why...how...what...the fuck? The model I had before this one lasted 10+ years, problem-free.

Quote
The first Logitech mice were made in Le Lieu, in the Swiss Canton of Vaud by Dubois Depraz SA. Production facilities were then established in the US, Taiwan, Hungary and Ireland before being moved subsequently to Suzhou, China.

Ah.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on June 19, 2017, 02:44:54 PM
Good thing you MacGuyvered it.  My wife just ships everything back until she gets one that works.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 21, 2017, 04:29:28 PM
I really fucking hate USB drives. 

I think that I've lost more files to magical file errors with USB drives than all other kinds of data corruption, ever.  And I'm super-paranoid about removing USB drives.  I always have them configured for stability, not speed.  I almost never let a copy of something on a USB drive be the only copy . . . .

But the moment I don't have a second copy, like a dumbass, I end up hating everything.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 22, 2017, 04:28:29 PM
SO, OK, our phones have been a source of tragedy.  Here's Teh Basics:

- Phones ancient and crappy. 

- For a long time, tell bossman, "We should just have cellular phones, online credit card processing through cell phone gadget, plain old DSL."  Him very scared of this new-fashioned nonsense.

- Unhelpful employee of days past signed us up for TWO scammy 'phone service' plans (Birch and Windstream) that apparently just sit between us and AT&T, charge a lot extra, and want like $200 per phone if we opt out of the contracts.  Ha ha!  I tell the boss, "Look, she had no authority to sign you up for anything.  Call these companies and tell them to pound sand."  No, he feels he can't do that.

- AT&T says, "We're going to update your service!"  The Good:  They'll get rid of scammy services for us and make termination fees go away.  The Bad (sorta):  Old phones will no longer work.  Which we found out after the new service had been activated.

- I had to buy new phones, myself.  We went cordless, which is like halfway to cell, right?  RIGHT?  At least now we can walk down an aisle and tell a customer if we have a book or not.  Except the new phones plug into the router, and the router has to be upstairs, and the cordless signal has trouble getting through the ceiling.  :eyeroll:

Moving this equipment is evil and non-trivial, but we'll see.  Maybe we can switch to a VOIP system, since I already ran Ethernet cable down to the first floor.

- I put up notice on website saying "Our phones are temporarily messed up."  Took that down yesterday, after everything seemed to be working.

- Early this morning, an AT&T tech disconnected our service by mistake.  Ha ha!  Took until just now to track down the problem and fix everything.

- Twenty-two voicemail messages.  Fuck me.  Our voicemail is the comes-with-the-service AT&T voicemail, and it's shittier than that digital all-in-one phone-and-answering-machine unit you bought for $25 at Radio Shack back in the day.


But the internet works again, so there's that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on September 27, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
We're losing ours and going to headsets.  I think I'll just reroute to the mopho.  No way I'm going to wear one of those.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 28, 2017, 02:13:24 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 01, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
We had . . . the shittiest phone and internet service . . . for a long time.  An outgoing and hostile employee who shall remain nameless signed us up for more than one overlapping phone service through companies I could not recommend to my enemies.  One of them, Windstream, unfortunately now owns Earthlink, which reduces our options for a decent ISP to None.

Anyway, we eventually managed to cancel those shitty phone service contracts.  I did point out to the owner that the employee in question had no legal authority to sign him up for anything, and that he should just tell those companies to go pound sand, but he's not the type.  Even when it costs him hundreds of bucks a month.  This is what happens when you can't afford an attorney.

ANYWAY, one day this AT&T rep came hopping through the forest and said, "Look, you already have UVERSE Mysterious DSL-Type Internet [tm], so you might as well switch to AT&T for phone service.  We can bundle it all together, for both locations, make it simple and make it cheaper."

That was months ago.  Current status:  FUBAR

Item -  No one at AT&T -- not our rep, not the billing department, not the tech guys they send out here -- can tell us what we have or what we're being charged for.  Ha ha! 

Seriously, the sales department (which calls us at least twice a month to try to get us to "switch to digital", which we've already done) thinks we're paying for four POTS lines (old non-digital copper lines).  The rep thinks we probably only have two, but he's not sure and can't access that information.  The tech guys (we've had a service call like every two weeks, including one where the guy told me "I'm don't know they sent me out here", and we hadn't asked for anyone) routinely tell me that it's just a mess, and who knows what's what.

So.  You know.  That's good.


Item:  We have two locations.  Both need a phone line and DSL, and one also has a separate office phone line.

Each location currently has at least two phone lines, and we can't convince AT&T to drop the extras.  They gave us a different flavor of DSL for each shop, for no apparent reason.  Curious has the bottom-tier Internet 10, and Archives has the much faster Internet 25.  Although, actually, both test out to a download speed of about 7 Mbps, so it's basically a scam.


Item:  We get bills that are incomprehensible.  So many bills!  Three or four different ones in a typical billing cycle, explaining nothing.  And often wrong.  They include the minutes used for a given phone line, except when they don't list it, and a line that sees an hour of use per day will often be listed as, say, 13 minutes for the month.

Very good.  Very good.


Item:  The charges are PURE FSCKING FRAUD.

Seriously, I'm talking hundreds of dollars per month, and none of it makes sense.  One phone line we're paying for, which doesn't seem to be connected to anything, costs $160 a month for "phone service".  It's billed for 911 and such, so apparently it's a voice line.  If you dial it, it just rings forever, and none of our phones ring.  OH GOOD.

And why is it $160 a month?  No one seems to know.

Similarly, Archives' fast internet is $40 a month.  Curious's cheap-ass slow internet is $120 a month.  $120 a month for bottom-tier DSL at 7 Mbps.  FFS.


I hate the shit out of this shit.  Ray is willing to . . . do something about it . . . sooner or later.  Our rep is zero help; calling AT&T is an exercise in idiocy.  We could (and should) go cellular, since a $40 per month plan for each shop would cover all of our phone needs AND half of our internet needs.

But we do need real internet-for-desktop-computers, and there aren't any good ISPs here.  The evil have bought them all up.  I can't find a good cellular small business plan.  We can try to cancel everything AT&T except DSL and try to get them to just give us the Internet 10 for both places, but basically they do what they want and charge what they want and dare you to take them to court.

It's fraud, plain and simple.  I'm really tempted to file complaints even if we stay with them.  It's no wonder we're going out of business.  We're paying $400-$600 a month, as far as I can tell, for crap phone service and crappier internet.  Pure madness.

Also, I have to say, I used to have AT&T at home, and this is exactly what I expect from them.  It's why I only have my phone for home internet.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on February 16, 2018, 04:59:58 PM
just because people weren't hating them enough.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/15/17017864/google-removes-view-image-button-from-search-results

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 16, 2018, 05:49:36 PM
For Getty Images, who suck. 

The better thing to do would be to just exclude Getty Images from GIS results.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 16, 2018, 05:50:16 PM
Seriously, though . . . Google has not adjusted well to market dominance.  They're like Microsoft that way. 

Oh, no serious competition?  Maybe we should see how much we can suck.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 16, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Seriously, though . . . Google has not adjusted well to market dominance.  They're like Microsoft that way. 

Oh, no serious competition?  Maybe we should see how much we can suck.

That's a very satisfying analogy.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 02, 2018, 04:14:19 PM
I swear to GOD that Google is trying to make me use another web service for everything.

Is there some way to turn the fucking labels off in Google Maps?  I'm trying to find how to get to this business in another town, and the map is OBLITERATED by a zillion idiotic 'pins' and business name labels.

A)  I do not care about these businesses.

B)  The selection of businesses labeled vs businesses not labeled has nothing to do with what would be useful or pleasing to me.

C)  The map is literally not useful AS A MAP.  I can't see big swathes of it because they're covered with labels.  Meanwhile, the streets aren't labeled.

D)  Google has switched to this lower-contrast visual formatting that just plain sucks.

Are they, like, taking money from Microsoft to try to get people to use Bing, or something? 

Never mind that the one place I do want to see is on the wrong side of the street, on their map.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 02, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
Also, one other thing not labeled is public parking.

Honest to christ, such total crap.  :harumph:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 03, 2018, 07:16:42 PM
I know that if you do a search for like "Axe's Barbecue Restaurant", it will bring up a results page with a small map as the top result. If you click on that map, it's really fucked up, like you described. You have to start from Maps instead of starting from Google. There's a difference, and it can be really aggravating.

On a regular map, you have to click on the 'hamburger' menu in the top left to get to the options, but I assume you already know that. To get rid of pins, you have to close the big box on the left side. If you got there from google, no one can save you.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 04, 2018, 11:02:40 AM
I can only get rid of hotels and shit if I get rid of the box (technically, cancelling the search results).  Most of the local business pins, etc, remain, and the actually useful stuff is often still unlabeled.

There are ways to get a For Your Business version of a map that has the pins removed, and so on, but the user shouldn't have to fuck with APIs 'n' shit to make the map readable.

If you switch to the Satellite view, there's an option (in the idiotic burger menu) to turn off the labels.  But only in Satellite view, and if you switch back, they come back.  So as long as you don't mind guessing what you're looking at from a photo instead of a map, it's . . . eh, it's still terrible and incompetent.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 04, 2018, 12:03:38 PM
They suck suck suck. Bing started destroying their map thingee to keep up with google. They got rid of "Bird's Eye View", which was the best thing they had.

I'm here in EC right now to do a search for hotmail to remind myself how to do something that took me forever to figure out last time, and of course now I've forgotten.

 :irate:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 04, 2018, 12:07:51 PM
:lol:

Pretty much unrelated, but I was trying to create an alias with Hotmail the other day, and the help system over there is spread all over the place with bits here and there and they occasionally scramble the locations. I finally thought I found the instructions, and then it tells me I have to install Silverlight to view it  :lol: They'll do anything to cram that down people's throats. I eventually found the text version of the instructions under "more mail settings".

"more mail settings" is gone now.  :bitzero:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 04, 2018, 12:28:52 PM
Well that was painful. I don't want to discuss it.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 05, 2018, 09:46:25 AM
Okay, long story short, you now have to double authenticate whenever you want to change certain things in Hotmail. So to add a new alias, I had to type in my alternate email address, it sends an email to it with a code number, and then I have to paste that number into a box. 5 minutes later when I realize that it didn't automatically create a new folder and send email for that address to that folder and I had to create a new rule, I had to go through the authentication process again. And the 'old' code would not work.

I understand why they are doing that now, and maybe it wouldn't be so bad if their whole system wasn't so counter-intuitive.

And I had just been through setting up a wireless router and a roku account, so I was a little bit aggravated already. Three things that I expected to take a few minutes turned into hours.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 05, 2018, 10:36:20 AM
Hotmail's been pretty shitty since Microsoft acquired it.  GO FIGURE.


Google Search no longer displays a link to a cached version of anything unless I turn JavaScript off.

:nonplused:

This really is a race to the bottom.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 05, 2018, 02:50:27 PM
Apple Maps on iOS actually works pretty much like Google Maps used to before they upfucked it. I'm kind of surprised, as I didn't expect this level of functionality from, you know, Apple.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 05, 2018, 03:15:26 PM
Surprisingly the nav app in the 2016 Highlander works surprisingly well.  We usually use that now instead of the phones.  My complaints are all about time and money or lack there of.  Scooter has a tooth abscess--$900 so far and another $600-$3600 in a couple of days.  I made the mistake of flying Frontier to Denver because it was the cheapest and had to pay an extra $400 to check bags and bring our carry-ons (they fucking charge for carry-ons too).  Anyway the cost was more than the original tickets.  Hotel also charged $42 a day for parking.  Now I remember why I don't travel.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 05, 2018, 04:18:56 PM
 :shock:

That sounds like my kind of luck. It's why I never change lines at the grocery any more.

I've never used the Apple Mapps more than a few seconds, but I remember reading it had a lot of errors. That was a long time ago though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 05, 2018, 04:46:11 PM
I'm so sick of Chrome.  I really gotta learn how to run Android apps on a Linux PC, one of these days, because the mobile version of Chrome is at least tolerable.  :nonplused:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on March 05, 2018, 06:56:15 PM
Chromebook is nice if you want a keyboard. Many, but not all, can run Android apps natively now. If your mileage doesn't vary, somebody's cheating.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 05, 2018, 08:18:08 PM
They give all the kids chromebooks in middle school now, so Ian will get one next year.  Hopefully it isn't too difficult for this old dog to learn.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 06, 2018, 09:30:33 AM
I'm not ready to trust Google with the OS, myself, so I'd have to put a Linux on there.  Actually, my current ThinkPad is getting ready to die, alas.  I find that desktops easily last a decade, but laptops maybe half that long, and that's if you put up with more decay.

I type a lot, and I've gotta have a good keyboard.  I've tried a few Bluetooth keyboards, and they were better than thumb-typing on a screen but not nearly as good as $5 USB keyboard or a Lenovo keyboard on a laptop.

A quick google shows a $100 reconditioned ThinkPad will typically have roughly twice the processing power and RAM of a $100 reconditioned Chromebook, with ten times the storage, just as a hard drive instead of SSD.  It's bigger, but I wouldn't be carrying it around with me all day.  The Chromebook is just a hard sell.  Either one will do word processing and basic internet, which is 95% of what I want.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 29, 2018, 06:15:05 PM
SO ANYWAY we don't want Windows 10 computers, but we have software and online services and shit that insist they won't work anymore if we don't go to Win10.  And they won't promise they work with Linux of any kind.  In fact, most of them won't answer email questions about Linux compatibility.

So we bought two goddamned refurbished desktops that come with Windows 10.  New(er) desktops, good idea, so whatever, man.

The Win10 thing, though. 

FIRST of all, like always, the sticker that has the absurdly long product key is placed so that if you plug the machine in and connect it to the internet and so on, you won't be able to see the sticker.  Better copy the code down first, so you'll have one fewer reason to curse MS during setup.

Second, though, they now have this scratch-it-off shiny label over part of the key, so that . . . I don't know, actually.  So the people who do the refurbishing can't steal your product key?  Anyway, you have to scratch the shiny off to see the whole code, and there's a thing that says that if you scratch it off, the warranty is void.

:nonplused:

A)  No, the law doesn't allow that.

B)  This is like saying you void the warranty if you buy the product.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 30, 2018, 03:56:52 PM
 :confused: I'm missing the point of software activation unless they give you an install disk, and then I would expect the key to be on the disk/container. I don't want to know.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 30, 2018, 03:59:11 PM
Twist ties on bread should be twisted clockwise to close. That's universal law. Or do they twist counter-clockwise south of the equator?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 30, 2018, 04:03:30 PM
You may not want to know, but if I gotta, maybe you gotta.

Basically, you have to plug these computers into the net and then let them talk to MS, and MS turns the Windows install on.  It asks you for the code, or your machine is a brick.

Unless you wipe the drive and install Linux on it, which is what I'd rather do, but, alas, it won't work.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 30, 2018, 04:43:42 PM
Twist ties on bread should be twisted clockwise to close. That's universal law. Or do they twist counter-clockwise south of the equator?

There are some base motherfuckers who manage to alternate right-left-right twisting without compromising the previous twists and this invariably enrages me.

Basically, you have to plug these computers into the net and then let them talk to MS, and MS turns the Windows install on.  It asks you for the code, or your machine is a brick.

This has been true for some time, and not for just Windows either. I suspect stuff like the IP stack doesn't get enabled for users if you don't let a new Apple phone home to Cupertino first.

And I suspect these days some computers won't willingly boot Linux even if you burn the disk down to bare metal unless you switch out the ROMs.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 30, 2018, 05:23:30 PM
Basically, you have to plug these computers into the net and then let them talk to MS, and MS turns the Windows install on.  It asks you for the code, or your machine is a brick.

I get that, and I'm aware of their huge problem with pirating. I guess my point is I would expect it to already be activated by the hardware maker/refurbisher. I don't get why it falls on the user. I assume it's non-transferable, the user can't install the OS on another device. You're buying a piece of hardware, it should be good to go. I guess like with most things, the end user has the least powerful voice, therefore, fuck them.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on June 30, 2018, 05:24:19 PM
There are some base motherfuckers who manage to alternate right-left-right twisting without compromising the previous twists and this invariably enrages me.

That's just diabolical.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on June 30, 2018, 06:54:54 PM
I just object to paying for Windows.  I mean, I object to having to use it, but making me pay to use it is insulting.

The funny thing, I guess, is that if they'd just come out with a newer Windows kernel that had the XP interface and such -- because I'm long-convinced they aren't going to do better than that -- I would pay for that.  It's part of the Lowered Expectations marketing plan . . . except they never follow through.

But this is one of those things that exposes the lies of capitalism.  They could produce, say, a new version of the software that has the old interface.  I think that Lotus 1-2-3 demonstrates that the naysayers are wrong about that.  And similarly they could sure sell such things.  This is true from software to automobiles to you name it.

They don't because consumers don't have much power of choice in the market.  For the most part, you can choose Windows or you can choose Mac.  It might as well be a Soviet market.  And for the most part the consumers choosing between those two do it on the basis of whichever team they're a fan of, not by comparing the products, or because an IT department head grew up with one or the other.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 05, 2018, 01:30:29 AM
I'm still at 7 at work.  I had a legacy SAAS that didn't work with 10 at the time.  The SAAS has since upgraded, so I can use 10 but I don't want to.  I fried my MotherBoard, and got a new Lenovo T560 so hopefully they don't end of life me since I basically got a new machine with my old hard drive.  This was one of the last legacy Lenovos as everyone has been forced into the new Dells.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 05, 2018, 09:42:01 AM
I still REALLY LIKE my old Lenovo ThinkPad.  Honestly, I liked the design of the older ones better -- being able to open the case and see all the innards without removing a single screw was The Bomb.  But I'm so used to the keyboard, and the touchpad consistently works as I expect it to, which is not the case with most.

I have a much newer Dell laptop, which . . . I don't really like that much.  But at least it's a Linux install.  Although I have to finish trying to remember how I got my old Linux install set up the way I like.  And I need a better file manager; the default one for Cinnamon is just awful.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 09, 2018, 04:02:07 PM
I haven't given much thought to what kind of superhero I would like to be, but after reading this article, I'm certain I would use my powers to slowly crush the heads of corporate executives. Like Mr. Stankey here. Yes, Mr. Stankey. He is a turd from AT&T that is in charge of ruining HBO, which they just bought.

Quote
HBO must compete with smartphones for people's attention, (AT&T executive /WarnerMedia CEO) Stankey said in this exchange with (HBO CEO) Plepler:

"We need hours a day," Mr. Stankey said, referring to the time viewers spend watching HBO programs. "It's not hours a week, and it's not hours a month. We need hours a day. You are competing with devices that sit in people's hands that capture their attention every 15 minutes."

Continuing the theme, he added: "I want more hours of engagement. Why are more hours of engagement important? Because you get more data and information about a customer that then allows you to do things like monetize through alternate models of advertising as well as subscriptions, which I think is very important to play in tomorrow's world."

"Think about things like Game of Thrones," AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson said at a telecom conference in May 2017. "In a mobile environment, a 60-minute episode might not be the best experience. Maybe you want a 20-minute episode." Instead of showing full-length episodes on all devices, it might be best to "curate the content uniquely for a mobile environment."

HBO has made nearly $6 billion in profit over the past three years, while devoting more than $2 billion a year to programming, the article said.

HBO has 40 million subscribers in the US and 142 million worldwide, but Stankey said that AT&T intends to make HBO "a much more common product."

- https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/07/att-wants-to-overhaul-hbo-says-it-isnt-profitable-enough/

When I try to imagine what goes on in board rooms where the stupidest decisions are made, this is exactly the type of conversation I picture.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 09, 2018, 04:09:05 PM
True.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 10, 2018, 03:41:21 PM
I finally tried the new reddit. Apparently if you never delete your cookies you would still be using old reddit. I only tried it for a few minutes before I ran into a deal breaker and had to switch back to the old.

Years ago I used to have a problem when reddit started not caching pages, which causes problems when you collapse threads, navigate away (click on any link in the thread) and then come back to the page (the threads would then be expanded).

The only solution I could find was to set my preferences to open links in a new "window"(tab). I did so with regret, because I was accustomed to the old way. So now, years later, I am accustomed to it and along comes new reddit, where there is no preference to open a link in a new window. 

And I've just discovered that your comment votes don't count if you open links in a new window.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 10, 2018, 08:42:14 PM
New reddit is worse than a stubbed toe.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 10, 2018, 10:22:31 PM
Stankey is an appropriate surname.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 11, 2018, 04:33:15 PM
TONS of sites are web lies and update the page contrary to user expectations.  Pure treasonous bullshit. 

Opera explicitly has a feature where you can tell it to ALWAYS load a page from the cache instead of reloading it from the network unless you refresh the page.  Unfortunately, that feature, although still present, stopped working several iterations of Opera ago.  :eyeroll:  Basically, they jumped into the mainstream Fuck You of letting websites lie to you and override your preference.  You'll consume what they want you to consume, you dreck!

The solution, indeed, is to open links in new tabs and keep JavaScript turned off in any situation where you don't absolutely need it.  Opera mostly makes that a breeze, since it will breezily handle literally dozens of open tabs without even hogging resources.  Well, the older versions (pre v. 12) will.  I tried one of the later versions since they switched to Chromium, and it was so terrible that I'm not going to do that again.  I mean, if I wanted to use Chrome as my main browser . . . wouldn't I use Chrome? 

These better versions of Opera still don't let you do things like really truly require that pages are only loaded from the cache unless otherwise requested.  Frankly, I don't go out and get a new copy of a book every time I pick up where I left off reading, and in general there are few things of the class Things I Usually Decide that I want my browser to decide to do on its own -- especially if I can't tell it that it's not allowed to do that.  I mean, I don't want my car to decide I ought to go grocery shopping when I'm on my way to a hot date.

Opera also doesn't let you change JS settings, etc, on a tab-by-tab or page-by-page basis.  I regard that as defective.  But it's so very, very, very much less defective than Chrome or Firefox that it's still my browser of choice.  Until it stops working, as the internet moves away from webpages altogether.

At the moment I'm using Firefox, due to a hardware crash sending me to a backup computer, and amusingly Firefox's autocorrect doesn't know the words "internet" or "webpage" or [ ahem ] "autocorrect".  :huh:  But it's still way WAY better than the autocorrect / suggest on my stupid phone . . . .
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 14, 2018, 10:05:58 AM
Low VOC paints:

- Seriously, almost no odor or noticeable fumes.  Kind of amazing.

- Shitty.

Srsly, I am so sick of painting things with Low VOC paints.  Painted a small bathroom with a Behr indoor paint.  Thicker than Elmer's Glue and harder to spread.  Takes FOUR WEEKS to cure.  Doesn't stick that well, doesn't self-level well, doesn't cover stains well (despite being paint-and-primer all-in-one), gloss is uneven.

I mean, we got there.  And it looks better than before I painted it.  It was so thick that I broke two painting pads and a heavy-duty brush before I finished, and my shoulders still hurt.  It was more labor than applying roofing tar.

Next time, I'm going to try thinning it slightly and using a roller.  Last time, I tried a roller without thinning it, and it was infuriating.

I really hate paints that stick to themselves well and form a continuous film coating the wall / object but don't stick to the actual substrate that well.  Like, I get the concept, but it's not what I want.  Oil-based paints are a pain, yes, but.  I'm told epoxy-based paints don't do well if there's any humidity-transfer (or should be), so . . . that does limit them, but I'll be tempted to try one on the shed when I paint it again.

I think I'm at the point where I actually want to roll ink onto the walls and then urethane over it.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 15, 2018, 08:35:44 AM
Windows 10.   :eyeroll:

Settings=>Personalization=>Lock Screen=>Slideshow

Close settings.

Go back... it's set to "Picture".

Every time.

Why even have a setting if it is only going to go "LOL JUST KIDDING" and revert the moment after you set it?

Oh yeah.  The screensaver does the same thing.  It always reverts to "none".   Considering that I use this to lock my machine after inactivity, this is also a security issue.   :angry:

It's 2018, Microsoft.  One would think you'd be able to figure out basic shit like this by now.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 15, 2018, 03:45:20 PM
After setting your personalization, right-click, hold the shift key and the '?' key and choose 'options', then 'preferences', then 'save'.

I'm kidding, but that's the level of intuitiveness I expect from my Windows phone. I like the phone, but without RTFM, there's no way someone could figure out some of the functions.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 15, 2018, 05:10:32 PM
Windows 10 is trash.  I've used every version of Windows since 3, and I have to say, 10 is the worst version they've ever released.  It's like a bad alpha.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 15, 2018, 10:06:00 PM
Basically, it's this:

Windows 10.   :eyeroll:

Settings=>Personalization=>Lock Screen=>Shitshow

Close settings.


Windows 10 =>Shitshow
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 16, 2018, 05:33:35 AM
While I'm complaining about tech that doesn't work right.  My phone.  Oneplus 3T.  Good all around device.

But... Settings=>Wifi=>"Always on"

Get up in the morning, turn on screen, no notifications....

Then ALL the notifications of shit that happened overnight that it didn't notify of because it clearly put wifi to sleep.   :banghead:  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 16, 2018, 09:17:40 AM
Quote
Why even have a setting if it is only going to go "LOL JUST KIDDING" and revert the moment after you set it?

YOU HAVE SELECTED . . . "B".

No, I didn't!

I'M ALMOST CERTAIN THAT YOU DID.


Honestly, though, I think this is one of those reverse-Hanlon deals.  I don't think this is stupidity; I think this is essentially malice.  I think MS, like so many big software concerns, is just trying to train you to accept doing whatever they want you to do.  Exhaustion is one of their chief weapons.

Facebook couldn't design such an impressively shitty interface entirely by accident.  If they have to give you the option to change something to be what you'd like it to be, FINE, but they'll do it in a way where you generally won't bother, and they'll make it revert to how they want it often enough so you'll give up changing it back, and . . . they'll win.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 19, 2018, 01:01:49 AM
SORRY, I CAN'T DO THAT DAVE


I never wanted to leave XP, but now I'm glad that I have a legacy 7 laptop for work.  Fortunately I needed 7 for a legacy SaaS product that I use.  Since then they've upgraded but I got to avoid the 10 and hopefully can keep avoiding.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 19, 2018, 05:03:50 PM
I just configured 3 W10 laptops to run MATLAB and ... uh ... this operating system is worthless. Good lord. How can they keep getting away with this shit? At some point people just have to stop buying it because it's garbage, right? ... Right?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 19, 2018, 05:13:47 PM
Working yesterday after lunch and really getting a lot done and felt really good about where my design was going. Windows decided it was time for my anal punch and rebooted my machine with no warning for a 3 hour update.

I'm going to cock punch steve ballmer when i see him.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 19, 2018, 06:07:54 PM
Daaamn. I thought your shop was all Apple, all the time?

That happened to me yesterday in mid-MATLAB 2 gig download.

I'll loan you my brass knuckles.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 19, 2018, 06:40:57 PM
Apple bit the pooch years ago for me when they decided that the best model was a mini R2-D2 with a shit graphics card and only one processor. They're supposed coming out with an expandable power mac in 2019.

The sketchup kids I work with still use them.

I have a dual 10 core Xeon now with a quadro M5000 (need to upgrade that). I drive CAD design software now in addition to my 3D texturing, lighting and rendering stuff.

Windows is the main issue.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 19, 2018, 06:57:12 PM
How can they keep getting away with this shit? At some point people just have to stop buying it because it's garbage, right? ... Right?

No competition. Apple doesn't seem to care about anything but iPhones anymore. Consumers have zero power unless there is an alternative. Why is there no competition is the real question.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 20, 2018, 09:32:23 AM
Relevant:

Quote
Microsoft has posted the results of the fourth quarter of its 2018 financial year, running up until June 30, 2018. Revenue was $30.1 billion (up 17 percent, year on year), operating income was $10.4 billion (up 35 percent), net income was $8.8 billion (a rise of 10 percent), and earnings per share were $1.14 (an increase of 11 percent).
source (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/microsoft-posts-bumper-q4-with-windows-surface-azure-all-up/)

 :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 20, 2018, 11:42:53 AM
:sigh:

The personal computer revolution is over, and we lost.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 20, 2018, 11:44:02 AM
EVERYTHING has windows on it now. POS, cars, refrigerators, washing machines, billboards, kiosks, etc. . .

(https://i.imgur.com/6S72SJL.jpg)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 20, 2018, 03:15:48 PM
Is that second picture a Blue Man Group?  :lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 20, 2018, 03:37:21 PM
It's a Nine Inch Nails concert.

https://royal.pingdom.com/2008/10/09/blue-screen-of-death-in-unexpected-locations/

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on July 20, 2018, 03:45:51 PM
:galm:  I think almost all of our engineers have linux of some variety.  Us non engineers either have to use crapple or winblows.  Excel for crapple is worse than dealing with winblows, but fortunately I'm on 7.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 21, 2018, 09:06:40 AM
Quote
I'm going to cock punch steve ballmer when i see him.

You'll need precision.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on July 21, 2018, 07:18:26 PM
hehehe
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 29, 2018, 10:35:54 AM
Jesus, Firefox is a clunk bucket these days.  FFS.  Chrome with JS turned off is honestly better, and that's just sad.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 29, 2018, 03:37:33 PM
I'm seriously afraid their days are numbered. I'm using their enterprise version 52, which is good for a couple more months, but I don't know what I'll do when that expires.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 30, 2018, 09:33:13 AM
Chrome is shit, but its market penetration made everyone try to copy it.  I've never understood the lack of thinking behind that strategy.  It's not even proper bandwagonning -- it's not like Google couldn't produce enough Chrome to go around, and so a knockoff could horn in on that market.  It's not like other browsers were all "We're giving you Chrome -- except improved like this and that!"

There's no attempt to develop or market a real alternative or a better way.  It's just witless capitulation, begging for scraps.

It does amuse me slightly that Internet Explorer didn't inspire the same kind of imitation.  People assumed they could compete with Microsoft's shitty products.  Just not with Google's.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on July 31, 2018, 05:35:34 AM
\It does amuse me slightly that Internet Explorer didn't inspire the same kind of imitation. 

Oh it did.  Mozilla definitely copied some of the stupider things in IE for Firefox when they went off the deep end and decided to drive off most of their users. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on July 31, 2018, 09:30:56 AM
I've read conspiracy theories that suspect Google of infiltrating Mozilla by sending them key employees, and to me it's a believable theory. I mean, there seems to be no explanation for some of their actions other than self-destruction and/or aggravation of their user base.

Take this article from today (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/mozilla-is-evolving-the-firefox-brand-and-it-wants-your-feedback/) about rebranding.

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...while there won't be any direct voting, you can leave a comment on the Mozilla blog with your preferences. Mozilla also notes these aren't final, and "Each individual icon will undergo several rounds of refinement, or may change entirely...

Beyond the fact that they will obviously ignore any input from users, at this point, who really gives a shit? Your product sucks, what difference does it make what label you put on it? Or are you just trying to piss off more of the few remaining old users by changing the design? Or are you trying to deflect attention from your product?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on July 31, 2018, 10:07:48 AM
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Mozilla definitely copied some of the stupider things in IE for Firefox when they went off the deep end and decided to drive off most of their users.

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE



Firefox was driving me crazy yesterday because I accidentally hit Ctrl-Q when I meant to hit Ctrl-W.  I mean, they're right next to each other.  The browser instantly closed completely with no Are You Sure? message or anything.

In theory, it can restart and bring back all your open tabs and windows.  You know, like Opera started offering twenty years ago.  But it doesn't always work right.  And, unlike Opera has done forever, it doesn't seem to let you save arrangements of open tabs, yadda yadda, like you were bookmarking the whole schmeer.

Also, of course, if you were doing anything in a Private window, too fucking bad.  It's gone, man.

Also, some more, restarting sometimes . . . takes . . . a . . . very . . . long . . . time.  So convenient to just restart!  It's like it's a feature!

SO, to the googles.  And you get tons of Mozilla employees saying, "It seems to work fine for most users, so fuck you."  You can hack the config, in that way that tells you they don't want you to be able to change the settings, you user scum, but if you set it to warn you before closing the browser or before closing multiple tabs . . . it still doesn't.  :eyeroll:

The User Preference settings now contain almost nothing.  You get nothing!  Hey, thanks.  But, I mean, they took away the option to toggle JavaScript on and off.  Because fuck you.  Download a plug-in, if you want user controls!  Sheesh!

Then Firefox will disable the plug-ins at random moments on the grounds that it doesn't like them.  Ha ha!

I haven't found a functional workaround yet.  Firefox, unlike a good browser, doesn't let you customize the controls much.  The plug-ins that supposedly stop Ctrl-Q from working don't, not so far, although apparently that's mostly a Linux thing, huzzah.  Meanwhile, I tried taking over the hotkey combo using Mint itself, and that didn't work at all, either, for no reason I can see, but now I'm sick of it.

SO I guess they convinced me to use Chrome instead.  I'd use an older version of Opera, but I couldn't find a working download for Linux.  :nonplused:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 07, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
Transferring files from USB to a Windows 10 machine.

About 55 minutes remaining


Sixty seconds later:

About 17 minutes remaining


Four minutes later:

About 13 minutes remaining


Twenty minutes later:

About 13 minutes remaining


Nice to see they still have no clue about file transfer rates. 

Hey, do we have the user-settings-stored-in-one-little-portable-file deal (that they promised would be in Windows 3.1) yet?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: pdrake on August 07, 2018, 05:36:02 PM
i work with idiotic children.

every time some piece of equipment isn't working or needs paper or ink, i have to fucking do it.

they're fucking 30-35 years old. fucking use google you spoiled brats.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 07, 2018, 05:37:38 PM
You should just go, look at the thing, shake your head sadly and make clucking noises, and then tell them "Unfortunately, this is gonna take awhile."

Then go back to your office.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 07, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
make clucking noises

 :cock:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 08, 2018, 04:31:55 PM
:headbang:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 21, 2018, 03:41:11 PM
WELP, I cancelled both my DVD and streaming Netflix accounts today.  :shrug:

Netflix has just been getting shittier and shittier, less and less interested in the goddamn customers.  They seem to think that if they have exclusive content, it means nothing else they do matters.  But there's so much more content out there than I have time to even begin to touch that nothing 'exclusive' is must-see.

So why put up with their bullshit?  They've been following that trend of getting worse and worse every time they change something, constantly breaking the things that worked fine.  I mean, really, I should've dumped them the minute they selected Silverlight, probably the single worst media player I've ever used.  Or when they got rid of recommendations or beggared the review system or made the interface worse and worse or fucked up the perfectly usable queue or tried to make you forget that you wanted to see something that doesn't happen to be available right now . . . .

Fuck 'em.  I'm done.  I've never watched the video, but I have Amazon Prime anyway.  And I like DVD extras.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 21, 2018, 05:13:33 PM
I was given $100 worth of Netflix as a gift, so I can't complain. Not.  :P

The latest move of test forcing previews between episodes during binges is a bad sign. The user experience means nothing to these companies. They will do anything to prove that these previews are beneficial to the bottom line, and they will do anything to ignore the proven results of making customers happy.

Netflix will eventually be gobbled up by one of the bigger fish anyway.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 22, 2018, 02:28:01 PM
My feeling is . . . eh.  Seriously, so many online services just gradually get worse and worse until they're simply not worth the trouble.

Along those lines, Gmail 'upgraded' today.  Fucking awful and pointless.  Weirdly, and fortunately, there's a Classic Gmail setting.  Which definitely isn't what I'd consider "Classic Gmail", but it undoes the latest changes, as far as I can tell, which would qualify as an upgrade.

Except for how easy it is to lose an email draft forever, no-JavaScript desktop Gmail is currently the best version by a wide, wide margin.  If I could just get Gmail to actually forward mail to Thunderbird, then it would be a serious email service, but I suspect they intentionally make that glitchy.  I don't 100% blame them, but even so.

I'd definitely cough up $5 a month for a decent email service that also worked well on my phone.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 22, 2018, 02:33:14 PM
Speaking of endless complaining . . . for the first time since I've used Virgin Mobile, which is like a decade now, there are serious network issues.  Rarely in the last 40 hours or so have I been able to connect my phone to the net, and text messages have often taken 20 minutes or more to go through.  Right now, I can't even make or receive phone calls.

At home, I have to connect the thing to WiFi, like a caveman!  :harumph:

It's actually the Sprint network.  Amusingly, the WTF Is Wrong With The Network websites aren't showing complaints about Virgin but do show a lot of complaints about Sprint in this area right now.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 23, 2018, 03:39:12 PM
There was something on my local news yesterday about how all the cell networks are getting worse, dropping calls and no connections. I can't find anything about it now. I was halfway listening to the tv while I was cooking, not playing close attention. Anyway, maybe it's not just your network.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2018, 01:23:26 PM
I got an email back from VM about it.  Amusingly, they say they need to know my street address to address the problem.

You . . . you don't know where my phone is?  The network isn't THAT down.  GET IT TOGETHER, PEOPLE.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 24, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
Have you tried unplugging your cellphone, waiting 30 seconds and then plugging it back in?

/comcast
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 24, 2018, 05:18:00 PM
We've been down repeatedly over the past 3 weeks with Comcrap and have had our 5th rep come out to service.  Each one says a different thing, but thankfully we're back up finally.  ATT is the competition and we gave them their chance and the fucked it up.  Google can't come to soon.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 25, 2018, 09:32:32 AM
Man, I've reinstalled system shit and everything.  PITA.  The network connection just comes and goes.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 25, 2018, 09:35:05 AM
AT&T just ran fiber in my neighborhood, and they're probably competitive price-wise, but I hate them just as much as comcrap.

I've heard google's customer service is non-existent, which would not be surprising.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on August 27, 2018, 05:36:46 AM
Sprint used to be the best service in the town in which I live.  Then a couple of years ago they started decommissioning towers - everywhere.

Then I couldn't even make or receive a call at my house, much less have a data connection without wifi.  Sprint's coverage has shrunk to abysmally low levels in central MN, and I've heard that they've been doing the same thing nationwide (which means Virgin Mobile will suck too).  I guess they don't want customers anymore?  :shrug:

These days the wife and I use Consumer Cellular.  It uses AT&T's network, but they have good customer service and they're cheap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on August 28, 2018, 01:46:38 PM
Good news we have Sonic now (which look like they use ATT's network and Dish for TV).  So there is hope.  I need to figure out how to get broadcast/internet streaming TV that works with an old Tivo (or maybe just get a new Tivo because my wife loves Tivo and hates other DVRs) where my son can watch professional sports (NBA is a must) and my wife can watch HGTV, BBC, PBS, TLC.  I don't have much time for TV so I don't care. Anyway I want to kick fucking comcrap to the curb and watch them bleed out for a slow painful death.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 28, 2018, 06:16:32 PM
Some poor VM customer service schlub emailed me to tell me HE CALLED ME TO TRY TO FIX MY PHONE.

:doh:

He said because I was "unavailable", I should listen to my voicemail, and call him back.  :eyeroll:

I explained in an email reply that that won't work because, y'know, the phone isn't working.  I did try getting my voicemail via the VM website, out of curiosity, but apparently that ain't possible.  In theory I could do it from another phone, but I can't seem to get it to work.

I gooooogled it a lot, and I saw a lot of VM customers with this problem, and often third-party people just said 'Remove the battery and SIM, give it ten minutes, put 'em back in and power it up again.'  Tried that; didn't help.

I did mention in my email that the problem I have seems to be not at all rare, so it's weird that they act like it's mysterious.  I recommended that the dude go complain to his supervisor about that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2018, 05:29:35 PM
I contacted yet another VM customer service rep, and now I'm waiting to hear back, but while I was waiting I googled it some more and found someone from LG dispensing seekrit Android codes.

With my phone, at least, if you turn WiFi on and then off, then turn mobile data on, then go to the dial pad and enter ##72786# , it offers to do a special extra-polish factory reset.

Which took about five minutes and fixed my phone.

:eyeroll:

BUT I am glad to be able to use my phone again.  On the other hand, I don't think I'll bother the VM customer service people any further.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on August 30, 2018, 03:20:30 PM
I'm usually amazed by how much stuff there is about my phone online. Not from MS, but from users, usually in India.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 01, 2018, 09:58:13 AM
Phone stopped working again.  VM's support has been clueless and mostly vapor.  Pretty disappointing, even for the modern day.

It's an LG phone, so I'm trying them now.  What the hell.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 05, 2018, 10:27:26 AM
What a strange world it's become.  Amazon has astonishingly shitty prices on cell phones, for whatever reason.  I ended up using them to showroom, rather than the other way around, and ended up ordering a new phone directly from Virgin Mobile, who were second-cheapest after random eBay weirdoes.

Bezos is worth a bajillion dollars, but Amazon's another company that's the only capstone on its pyramid despite being shitty as hell at what it does.  This is the current way -- companies get gigantic on idiot investment and buy up and crush the competitors, then compromise themselves with shit management and meandering off to sell data, etc, instead of doing what they're ostensibly in business to do.  I mean, seriously:

- PayPal
- Amazon
- eBay
- Google
- Microsoft
- Facebook

They're all totally shit at what they supposedly do, yet they crush the competition.  (I have mixed feelings about Apple because I consider Apple to be a style / lifestyle company more than a tech company, so . . . they are mostly doing what they theoretically do.)

'Tis sad.  On the other hand, I just ordered an insanely powerful multimedia pocket computer-radio for $55, including shipping, and it'll be here tomorrow.  I hope it works!
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 05, 2018, 02:23:53 PM
I've never had much success with Amazon pricing. :shrug:

I miss the days when I could wander around in a Kmart and find something clearance marked-down to a ridiculously low price. It's rare to find those type deals now, it used to be common. You left Walmart off the list, because it lacks the investment angle I guess, but it was really the original crush, kill, destroy model. Well, that's not really true. I guess Sears was, ironically.

So what'd ya get?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 05, 2018, 04:27:07 PM
LG Tribute Dynasty.  To date, I've actually had overwhelmingly good luck with LG phones over more than a decade, and I don't have any reason to think the current problem is the phone.  And they're goddamned cheap.


I didn't put Walmart on the list because although they're evil, they're actually good at what they theoretically do.  As a discount big-box retailer, they're alarmingly efficient.

You know, now that I think of it, I've never been in a Walmart that was really busy.  In my experience, a Meijer at midnight is typically about as busy as a Walmart at 6 PM. 

I'm not sure what that means, but now that I think of it . . . it seems really strange to me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 06, 2018, 10:36:54 AM
While I'm waiting to complain about my new phone . . . we're now using Chrome v 68 under Windows 10 at work, and it's terrible

Seriously, it's a real dog, slow and clunky, and, you know, low-function.  There's a TON of shit that Opera was doing fifteen years ago that Chrome and Firefox have no excuse for not having copied, you know, fifteen fucking years ago.  And they still haven't.  Like a handy pop-up menu that lets you toggle the stuff you want to toggle frequently.  Or SEPARATE controls for jumping among (A) hyperlinks and (B) fields.

Seriously?  If you've used a browser that knows the difference between fields and links instead of just tabbing through both, you will always thereafter hate browsers that are too stupid.

But this version of Chrome . . . :doh:

The auto-update . . . never works right.  Lengthy auto-update process!  Then the version number hasn't changed.  Why?  Also, I don't want it to auto-update.

The History -- the goddamned History -- doesn't work right.  Start at Page A.  Go to B, go to C.  Go Back.  It won't go back past B.  Uh, I promise you, I was at A.  Chrome doesn't remember A.  :eyeroll:

The keyboard support . . . don't developers use keyboards, themselves?  Never mind the lack of good hotkeys; I often have to issue key commands multiple times before they'll trigger.  Ctrl-W.  Hey, you didn't close the tab.  CTRL-W.  Third time's the charm.  Same for Ctrl-Left and so on.  F5.  I SWEAR TO GOD, CHROME, I am pressing these keys.

They try to keep you from customizing anything, like the content-licking assholes they are, and the extensions are clunky as hell.  When I find an extension that claims to do what I want, half the time Google's like, "No, you can't have that one."  :nonplused:

No native content blocking.  Opera's had really good native content blocking since I don't even remember when.  OK, Opera sucks now . . . ever since they adopted Chrome's engine, in fact . . . but unless Google's developers are all under 20 years old or are new to the internet, that's no excuse.

Such a pain in the ass.  But the newer Firefox versions haven't been much good, either.  FF is at least promising decent things, so I guess we'll see.  But, honestly, Chrome, though never terrific, used to be a lot better than this.  :harumph:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 06, 2018, 03:42:27 PM
Did you see the story about google wanting to get rid of URLs (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/google-wants-to-get-rid-of-urls-but-doesnt-know-what-to-use-instead/?comments=1&vs=b)? I'm convinced there will eventually be google convertor boxes required to get online.

My version of FF expired yesterday. It's the last one to support legacy extensions. I don't even want to talk about how much I hate what google has done to browsers.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 09, 2018, 06:08:48 PM
I have to give credit when due. I wasn’t aware Firefox developed this First-Party Isolation feature:
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Essentially, every website you visit will store data separately and isolated from every other website you visit. First-Party Isolation offers the same privacy protection within one browser as you would get if you open one website in Safari (or another web browser) and then open another website in Firefox. Network connections, caches of different types, cookies and other persistent data stores would work as normal but there is no known way for one website to save data in a way that could be read by any other website.

This is how all browsers should have worked from the beginning, in my opinion. There are downsides, of course, (this article goes into them) (https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/firefox-fpi).

From reading the comments on the article at HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17944991), it sounds like google has already broken it by doing some kind of redirection magic, so I would assume that other sites will follow. The google bug is two years old and it appears the devs at Firefox are stumped.

Nice try though.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 10, 2018, 09:23:12 AM
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This is how all browsers should have worked from the beginning, in my opinion.

Probably they did.  What I want in a browser is to be able to tell it, for instance, "Download what this URL offers, and then render the HTML, including hyperlinks, but nothing else.  Not dynamically, but from the cache after you download it.  Do not load or render anything additional without my say-so."

Some websites, yes, are things other than hypertext documents.  Honestly?  They shouldn't be -- or, rather, that should be a distinctly different category of thing.  The Amazon front page is nothing like a Wikipedia page to the same extent that an Uber car is not like a book about cars.  I know, the corporations we're dealing with want to use the computer to confuse us and lead us by the nose, but fuck them.

90% of the time when I'm online, what I want to do with the internet is download and view content, The End.  If I buy something from a catalog, the delivery person doesn't come in and look around my house.  I would not own a TV that listened in on me.  Bullshit, Mr. Han, man.



Google's full-on evil, these days.  They can't rush fast enough to suck up to Putin and whatever bad impulse the Chinese government has, and it seems like every product they make now is just Microsoft kinds of bad.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 10, 2018, 01:59:09 PM
It's surprising how quickly public perception of google changed. I used to feel like a conspiracy theorist when I spoke of them in a negative light. Most people would rush to their defense, but that's changed.

I've read you can't find a non-smart-tv. Simple monitors are no longer available to consumers. I dunno. Maybe the time will come where you need to take your brand new TV to the underground repair shop to get them to remove the camera and junk.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 11, 2018, 09:35:14 AM
I think it's the real reason why really big TVs suddenly became cheaper than comparable computer monitors that don't have the DRM stuff.

I can still more easily afford a monitor that's as big as I'd want a TV, and the monitor still more easily shows me content I actually want to see.  I actually like television programming, taken as a whole, but I haven't used or bought a TV in several years.  I'm not sure why I'd buy one.  If I wanted to watch a really big picture, projectors are insanely cheap now, and, you know, much smaller.

But, I mean, my tastes are peculiar.  I can't imagine the day when my main computer won't have a real keyboard, and the trends in pocket computers make me think phones that cost over a hundred bucks are still pretty dumb.  But I think a built-in nav system in a car is dumb.  Nav systems are great, but I figure a decent car lasts 3-5 times longer than the upgrade cycle of a nav system, so, uh, you know. 
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on September 14, 2018, 11:47:26 AM
This seems relevant to the browser discussion (https://xkcd.com/2044/).
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 15, 2018, 09:17:49 AM
XKCD no longer loads in my browser of choice :lol:, but it worked in Chrome.  :nonplused:

It's often the integration that's a mistake.  Often a colossal, fundamental error.  People make fun of the microwave oven that has an internet browser built in but fail to notice how their browser is doing the same kind of thing the other way around.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 15, 2018, 02:55:41 PM
I started to mention Acrobat earlier in the conversation, but I thought it was getting off-topic. I guess it wasn't.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 16, 2018, 10:31:30 AM
My last two LG phones had the LG emoji set, which was . . . look, emojis are generally pretty stupid, poorly chosen, and awkward to use.  I frequently see them used online in ways where I have no idea WTF the person was trying to communicate, but it probably wasn't what I seem to be receiving.

That said.  My new phone came with the Google emojis, which I had never seen before.  And now it's like my phone is puking on me constantly.  Even when it's turned off.

I am thus on a mission to get the LG emojis onto this phone without having to root it.

It'd also be nice if, like with my first phone, I could use the zoom function (which is SET TO 'ALWAYS LET ME ZOOM', FFS) in SMS, because I can't fucking see what half those emojis are supposed to be.

For that matter, although the zoom function setting I chose is explicitly supposed to keep web pages from overriding my ability to zoom, it in fact frequently does not stop them.  WHY any website would even have the OPTION of overriding user display options is beyond me, and I can only assume it's a combination of desperate stupidity and fundamental lack of character on the part of the developers.



But, seriously, those Google emojis.  I feel now like what I paid for the phone and what I'm paying to have SMS service constitutes fraud.  I NEVER AGREED TO THIS.

/old man yells at Google Cloud
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 16, 2018, 10:33:13 AM
Seriously, the smileys for this message board?  THOUSANDS of times better than any emoji set I've ever seen.  So much more useful, expressive, clear, and pleasing.

Seriously.  It's like people set out to make emoji and said, "You know, there's a huge and varied tradition of emoticons and smileys and all sorts of things.  Let's not do almost anything that's been popular, even though that would be super-easy.  If we do that, they might not hire as many of us."
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 16, 2018, 03:56:04 PM
I use them probably more than I should here, and I practically never use them anywhere else.

There's a big problem with standardization and crossing platforms. Often I just see a box outline with numbers in it. Or as you say, the emoji makes the message more confusing than clarifying, as was their original intent(?)

I've got a ridiculous amount on macOS (https://i.imgur.com/PoDiayJ.jpg). I can't imagine someone going through all that to find anything.

Only when they are thrown up as suggestions on SMS am I tempted to used them, but that's on my Windows phone, which I know is probably incompatible with anyone receiving, so I never use them.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 17, 2018, 10:22:30 AM
Oh.

This "amp" Accelerated Mobile Page shit?

Another brilliant idea from Google that's actually full-on terrible and should never have been allowed to go live.  A terrific symbol of Google's determination to remake the internet in ways that are purely worse but somewhat branded.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 17, 2018, 02:37:18 PM
Huh. I just saw two of those yesterday, what a coincidence. I mean, they've been around for a while. Yeah, I didn't click on them.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 17, 2018, 02:58:00 PM
Ha. 20 minutes later I clicked on one. Coincidentally it was a BBC article about how Google adjusted user settings remotely.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 18, 2018, 10:10:24 AM
Did I already mention how I caught my phone spying on my conversation after Google updated some shit?  It turned the microphone permissions and the Google search app back on without even telling me, much less asking.

Evil, evil, evil fuckers.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on September 18, 2018, 11:02:58 AM
Seriously, the smileys for this message board?  THOUSANDS of times better than any emoji set I've ever seen.  So much more useful, expressive, clear, and pleasing.

Seriously.  It's like people set out to make emoji and said, "You know, there's a huge and varied tradition of emoticons and smileys and all sorts of things.  Let's not do almost anything that's been popular, even though that would be super-easy.  If we do that, they might not hire as many of us."

:clap: :hoss:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 18, 2018, 03:59:48 PM
Twenty-five or twenty-six days and still waiting for tech support from Virgin Mobile.  If this isn't a record, my only question is whether AT&T or Comcast is still in the lead.

Today, I was finally told that, well, tech support DID try to contact me.  They tried calling me.  But my phone doesn't work!


Honestly, that's more funny than infuriating.  I told the "Social Care" non-technical support person that she ought to sue her employer for emotional suffering for having to tell a customer that.

Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 18, 2018, 04:11:26 PM
They tried calling me.  But my phone doesn't work!

Honestly, that's more funny than infuriating.

After you've been crying for a long time, things seem funnier. Probably a defense mechanism.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 18, 2018, 04:13:45 PM
Wait. You don't have service on the new phone you got?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 18, 2018, 04:25:17 PM
I do, but for the first few days it intermittently had the exact same issues as my old phone.  Which rather suggests that it wasn't the phone that was the problem.

Also, they don't get off the hook for diagnosing the problem just because I got a new phone.  That would be stupid.

ALSO, now that I think about it, this means that the contact number they have for me has been working for the last week, and they claim they tried to contact me a few days ago, so . . . not only is it a stupid excuse, but it's a lie.  :eyeroll:

OH, HONESTLY.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 18, 2018, 04:29:12 PM
Speaking of my old phone:

After I got the new one, I kept the old one to use as a WiFi pocket computer, partly because it fucks with Google and partly because it means when my new phone needs charging and the charger isn't in a convenient location . . . well, you know.  I gots a second phone.

But after I activated New Phone, there began some new weird activity on Old Phone.  It started trying to update Android and Google settings in new ways -- over the cell network.  Which seemed odd, but I don't know WTF is up between Google and Sprint.

Unfortunately, it started to work but then began hanging the phone after a Google Play Services update, so I nixed that experiment by pulling the SIM out.  WiFi apparently doesn't care if there's a SIM.  The phone just warns me when I start it that I can only make emergency calls.

That phone is no longer associated with an Virgin Mobile account, per se, since I switched the account to my new phone and delisted the old one.  But I don't know WTF.  Now the old phone works perfectly for WiFi internet shit, which is how well it worked when it was still activated.

What's going on over at Virgin Mobile, obviously I have no idea whatsoever.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 18, 2018, 04:42:44 PM
That's kind of spooky. It makes me realize reinforces how little I understand about cellphones. I know you can browse on wifi without using data on your cell account, so it kind of makes sense, but I don't really get it. Maybe the updating runs on a similar level to 911?

:shrug: :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 19, 2018, 09:01:59 AM
If it can still call 911 without an account, then it must be searching for cell towers, and exchanging location/communications to them. I have no idea who receives that info. Just the owner of that tower, or is there some network that all the big players have access to?

I wonder if it will get the 'presidential' emergency broadcast.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on September 19, 2018, 01:49:38 PM
It got moved to October 3rd.
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-avoid-an-unblockable-presidential-alert-1829135000
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on September 19, 2018, 03:07:42 PM
Ah. I hadn't heard that. Good to know.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 19, 2018, 05:56:08 PM
Yeah.  I might try setting it to Radio Off, but being able to make emergency calls isn't a terrible thing.  And since I only have the one wifi network that I use, I never take that phone anywhere, so monitoring its location isn't a big security leak.

I don't know if anyone's spying on the wifi traffic through it.  But if they are, I probably can't stop them.  Too advanced for me.



Virgin Mobile is now insisting they can only provide tech support in real time and by calling me on the phone that's having the problem.  It's phenomenally stupid.  It must be a dodge to severely cut down on how much tech support they have to provide.

Also, I'm not surprised they farm it out to some other company, but the tech support people have no access to my VM account, so they don't know what kind of phone I have or even what my phone number is.

:eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on September 29, 2018, 09:11:48 AM
BTW, Virgin Mobile "tech support" still has made no attempt to contact me.  It's now been 38 days.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on September 29, 2018, 10:06:01 AM
They won't.  I used Virgin Mobile for a couple of years and I had numerous major issues.  Any time I tried getting support from them they basically ignored me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 01, 2018, 04:22:57 PM
I use Opera (old versions only), I use Firefox, I use Chrome, and the way all of these browsers handle security makes me just want to say Fuck Security and only use an anonymous burner old machine for internet stuff.

Can't connect securely?  Download the damned page and open it as dead HTML only, asshole.  Don't fucking lecture me.

Christ, the number of people who've stopped installing or who've disabled antivirus programs has got to be directly tired to how shitty security software is from an interface perspective.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 01, 2018, 04:39:00 PM
The version of WordPad in Windows 10 can't do kerning right on-screen.  It's messed up and painful to look at.

I can't decide if this is typical Microsoft incompetence or typical Microsoft evil.  Yes, the entire control interface is utterly broken, impoverished, and complete shit, but that's the Windows 10 way.  Did they, though, release the worst version of WordPad in its 23-year history?  Like Paint, is this one of those programs that just isn't as functional as it originally was?  And, if so, why do they keep changing it?

Or is that they know most people don't need more 'word processor' than what WordPad offers, and so they made it worse to try to force people to buy Word or Office or Mobile Impacted Anal Glands, whatever the current parasite is?

Hard to figure it.  But it sure is crap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 02, 2018, 11:08:04 AM
makes me just want to say Fuck Security and only use an anonymous burner old machine for internet stuff.

Seriously, I think the answer lies here somewhere.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 02, 2018, 05:07:14 PM
Is the Amazon app any good?  I've never bothered with it.  It seems like it wouldn't be good.

The real thing is, there should be SECURITY for financial transactions online, and then sites that want to take credit cards, say, should either hew to that standard or make you phone your order in. 

To pick an example, I don't give a fuck if Questionable Content can be loaded 'securely' or not. 

It should not fucking matter if Questionable Content can be loaded securely or not.

If it does matter, the problem that needs solving is way more basic.  Probably we should revert to a really old HTML standard until they fix it, because what the fuck, man.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 03, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
Is the Amazon app any good?  I've never bothered with it.  It seems like it wouldn't be good.

 :hmm: Is that relevant to the conversation? I mean, I'm curious if I'm missing something, not complaining if you're veering off-topic.

There's so many issues with online security I don't know where to even begin. It's all going to come down one day, and only then will something possibly be done. Until then, we'll just see more of the one step forward, two steps backward.

Making the interface more difficult for the user will do little/nothing to solve the problem. It's just something they can do so it looks like they're doing something. Continuing to add new features that endanger security (like international characters in URLs), and continuing to further connect everything, with no repercussions for anyone but the consumer, are way more important issues that need to be addressed immediately, but those are difficult issues that require international cooperation, that no one organization alone can affect, and those type things just don't get dealt with until after a catastrophe. Until then, make it appear to consumers that things are safe by making their online life more tedious.

blah blah blah

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 03, 2018, 04:19:48 PM
WELL, it's like, I could set up one user account or complete machine for trivial web browsing, and one only for use with sites where I'm going to enter my real name and, say, credit card information.

Or I could have the browser and have a secure app.

Assuming I can trust the app, and can trust the app's security to guard it from the browser, etc.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 03, 2018, 05:53:13 PM
Ah, I see what you were getting at. It seems like two separate browsers would be one way to deal with that, but probably not. I probably don't understand how sandboxing really works, but I thought that was the whole intent of sandboxing.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 05, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
I dunno, but logging in to my Amazon account from behind seven proxies seems like a waste of effort, is the thing.

Again, I think a lot of the problem here comes from trying to do everything through the browser.  The browser should be for downloading and rendering documents, basically.  Uploading small amounts of interactive content, like a post such as this, that seems to work OK when it's not handled stupidly.  But anything more complex than a GIF . . . that should probably be handled by specialized software.

A pocket multitool is handy and good when you haven't got anything better, but it's never a great knife, pair of pliers, screwdriver, etc.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 08, 2018, 04:43:03 PM
I just tried to place an order for a faucet part from Sears, and really, it shouldn't be that hard. In fact, I finally cancelled the order once I got it in a cart and found out the shipping was $10, no method options. The number of domains, sub-domains and sub-sub-sub-domains on that site is just absolutely ridiculous. I never could figure out which domains were necessary for everything to function. Usually I can narrow it down to at least everything but faceboot, google analytics and font domains, but I had to allow even those to get it to work.

At one point when I was trying to log in using an existing account, the 'sign-in' box did nothing, but the 'cancel' box worked fine. It's like they're trying to run off customers.

I'm going to try some local plumbing parts places, maybe I'll get lucky. I may just end up replacing the whole damn faucet. It would eventually be cheaper than constantly replacing the 'washer-less' washers. Never again.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2018, 09:52:14 AM
Yeah, I've found it's much easier and cheaper to replace the entire unit than to repair a modern faucet.  Stupid but true.

For a lot of appliance parts and the like, though, there are now many options.  eBay has not proven reliable for me in this regard . . . or almost any regard, honestly . . . but the googles often turn up smaller online merchants who used to make their money doing repairs and apparently now mostly sell parts retail and provide instructional videos to explain how to DIY.

It's kind of an interesting shift in how the expertise is applied.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 09, 2018, 11:03:37 AM
If I do have to get a new faucet, I'm going to research and find one that uses standard parts (if there is such a thing).
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2018, 02:27:38 PM
Buy two of the same cheap model and keep one for spares?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 09, 2018, 04:17:17 PM
The only things worn out are the parts designed to wear out that are rubber and plastic, the rest of the 30 year-old faucet is fine. It would have cost them pennies to include a little bag of those parts. I've replaced them two or three times... so far. I really like the faucet, otherwise.

I'm not the contortionist I used to be. I hate to think of trying to replace that faucet myself.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 10, 2018, 03:21:43 PM
I think they're designed badly on purpose.  There's no reason a faucet needs to be attached to the sink in such a way that you have to turn nuts that are underneath the sink and behind the bowl.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 10, 2018, 04:01:01 PM
Now that I think about it, I may have installed that faucet before I installed the sink, which is cast iron/ceramic. Heavy, man, heavy.

Also, Sears is in the news today.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 10, 2018, 04:13:11 PM
Currently doing a bunch of data processing on a Windows machine using software from Sea-Bird Scientific so basically I want to lay down a line of fairly big nukes between Bellvue and Redmond right now.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on October 10, 2018, 04:29:59 PM
We changed our bathroom faucet by removing the sink from the vanity installing the faucet and dropping the sink back in.  Much easier that way.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 21, 2018, 03:16:27 PM
"Every website in 2018" (https://i.imgur.com/EoNd3ev.gifv)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2018, 09:38:06 AM
See, I don't even consider that shit to be a "website".  :harumph:


And it's all too true.  This is why I turn off JavaScript.  The internet is a thousand times better with it turned off by default.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 22, 2018, 11:22:31 AM
I use NoScript, which will allow scripts by one domain at a time, or all domains at once. I usually go one at a time, and try to figure out each one does by its name, sometimes easy, sometimes impossible. I'm convinced that on many sites, there are domains that have absolutely no function at all.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on October 22, 2018, 11:40:19 AM
I don't get that on BC.:P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 22, 2018, 05:24:54 PM
Noscript implemented an interface change about six-eight months ago (maybe longer) that made it unusable by me. I could not get it to work any more. Weird, because it *was* great. Wouldn't solve this Do Not Track / WaPo problem.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 22, 2018, 05:29:48 PM
In other news, my GoPro has stopped talking to my computers. I plug it in, the light comes on, battery charges but no USB icon and no connection. I think it has to do with a recent MacOS upgrade. I saw some discussion of similar problems on GoPro's support forums, so I thought I'd check in there, no dice, so I thought I'd ask them a question. Required registration. OK, fine. Tried it. Infinite beachball.

Is GoPro actually dead?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2018, 10:02:43 AM
I don't know shit about GoPro, alas.  :shrug:


None of the JS control apps are perfect, but most of them that I've tried are a lot better than nothing.  That said, old-Opera's native ad-blocking is better than any of the ad-blocking apps I've tried.  Just way better for I Want To Block THIS Thing Right Here.

What I want now is an app for my phone that automatically removes all AMP from URLs.  In my experience thus far, every AMP version of a webpage is a worse version of the mobile page, which is almost always a worse version of the regular page.  :whatever:

Google:  Stop doing things.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on October 23, 2018, 10:08:35 AM
GoPro really dropped off the radar quick. I don't know what happened there.

Noscript implemented an interface change about six-eight months ago (maybe longer) that made it unusable by me. I could not get it to work any more. Weird, because it *was* great.

Yeah, that was to be compatible with the new version of Firefox that I've been refusing to upgrade to, so I'm still using the old version of NoScript too. The new version of NoScript is one of the reasons I don't want to update Firefox.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on October 23, 2018, 04:18:47 PM
I wouldn't put any anti-competitive behavior by Apple out of the range of plausibility.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 06, 2019, 04:51:31 PM
SO, YES, we're on almost all Windows 10 machines at work, now, with one Linux machine.  Windows 10 is awful and embarrassing, but the machines we have it running on are so much newer than our old machines that it runs reasonably well once you get rid of some fripperies.

To date, the only decent or halfway impressive new-to-Windows feature any of us have noticed is how you can see a YouTube video playing in the task-switch preview thumbnail.  This isn't a useful feature, really, but it's kind of impressive.

But mostly Windows 10 is still crap, even after we've all had months to get used to it.  Today, though, we had some fun -- the mouse and many dialog boxes stopped working properly.  So we tried to close and restart Windows.

I didn't realize you can't do that anymore.  I mean, I guess you're supposed to be able to.  But instead, the machine hung while it was trying to shut down.  When we restarted it manually, as it were, it couldn't restart Windows.  :eyeroll:

Instead, it kept trying to Prepare to Automatically Repair Windows.  This would lead to a screen where it said it couldn't, and we had the option of shutting the machine off (forever, I guess?) or Advanced Options.

The Advanced Options screen led to various vague choices, none of which worked.  OH GOOD.

Eventually, YT managed to get the machine to give us the option of reinstalling Windows.  Which it does from an image on the drive, not a DVD or something, and that's good because it didn't come with a DVD or anything.  This is a new machine we got about a week ago -- brand new!  Not refurbished or anything!  One week seemed like a sadly short operating life.

Anyway, we timed it, and it took 76 minutes to reinstall Windows.  (This doesn't count the hour-plus it took us to get that started.)  We chose the Don't Erase All Our Document Files option, figuring that if . . . somehow that didn't work, we could maybe get it to let us try again with the Do Erase Everything option.  But it did work!  It just put us back at square one of removing idiotic crap from the Task Bar, installing Chrome and Firefox again, and so on.

Chrome remembered our Gmail account, although not the password.  Which . . . good?  I guess?  Surprising and slightly creepy, but almost reassuring?  Except, in that case, why not remember, say, which extensions we had installed?  Especially since the Google Play Store is such amateurish trash.

BUT what can you do?  I could never get everyone here to agree to use a Linux desktop, and, anyway, so far my first successful Linux desktop has been my only really satisfactory one.  (I've already made it a rule to never try another Dell machine, Windows or Linux.  :nonplused:)  My bad Linux desktop installs are still mostly better than any Windows 10 desktop I've used, in most ways, but, for instance, one of them refuses to connect to the internet in any way.

:shrug:

Anyway.  I hate Microsoft so much.  I fondly remember when they were just exasperating.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 06, 2019, 04:52:23 PM
ALSO also, I'd just like to point out that we still live in an age where progress meters are useless. 

The most difficult task in computing is estimating how long any installation or file transfer process will take.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 07, 2019, 02:57:22 PM
One week seemed like a sadly short operating life.

That is actually the MTBF for Windows 10. There is one copy of which has been running without a crash for years, but Windows Georg is an outlier and should not have been counted.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: stormneedle on February 07, 2019, 11:33:23 PM
One week seemed like a sadly short operating life.

That is actually the MTBF for Windows 10. There is one copy of which has been running without a crash for years, but Windows Georg is an outlier and should not have been counted.
That meme has improved statistical literacy so much.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 09, 2019, 12:26:33 PM
All I can say is, I continue to say "Fuck Microsoft!" and not mean it as some weird fetish.

Actually, I just realized that this year I've been using Windows for like 30 years.  And it's always been crap.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on February 10, 2019, 12:06:54 PM
I have to say, I've used every version of Windows in some capacity since Windows 3.

Windows 10 is the worst one, hands down.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2019, 04:33:50 PM
Seriously, it's not original for me to say it, but 3.11 was the best overall, even without strong multitasking.  It was fast and light, it was simple, it was easy to customize at considerable depth -- it was easy to alter menus and hotkeys, FFS, or to get swappable third-party desktop shells for.  When something went wrong, it was easy to restart. 

edit:  Also, I think 3.11 was the last version that had a fully functional version of Paint.  This is minor, but also symptomatic.  MS could never bother to fix, say, the color eraser on later versions of Paint, even though they still included the color eraser with later versions of Paint.  :nonplused:

Of the post-95 versions, XP is still the only one I found truly tolerable.


My ancient ThinkPad is finally starting to really die.  :(  Not sure how I'll replace it.  It was under $200, it's worked flawlessly for I think six years (except the DVD drive, which became untrustworthy after about two years), it has a terrific keyboard, and it runs my Linux install perfectly.  I've never asked anything more difficult of it than streaming video, and it was my Netflix machine for years.  I mostly use it for writing.

I dunno.  Part of it is just that I'm so sick of farking around with uncooperative PCs, trying to get them to usable.  I start reading articles on how to Linux a used Chromebook or some damned thing, and my brain starts to throw up.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2019, 05:39:01 PM
SO now Chrome . . . F6 doesn't just move the cursor to the address bar but also sometimes selects a tab, uh, tab, instead.

First of all, there are already keyboard shortcuts for every piece of tab management that you seem to be able to do from said tab tab selection.  It's hard to believe Google hasn't removed those keyboard shortcuts, but not yet.  So this seems to be a sloppy unnecessary duplication of function.

Second of all . . . the F6 key now does two unrelated things.  What The Fuck.  Neither F7 nor F8 nor F9 nor F10 seems to do a damned thing, so it's not like they'd run out of keys.  This is the purest kind of stupid and bad.


Weirdly . . . Google's own support page claims that F10 selects "the last item in the Chrome toolbar".  That either doesn't mean what I think it does, or it doesn't work.  :shrug:

It also claims that pressing F10 + Enter opens the Chrome Menu.  Not on my install of Chrome, it doesn't.  Also, WTF kind of key combination is that?  Control, Shift, Alt -- those are continuous function keys.  The Function Keys, per se, are supposed to be instant, not continuous.

Do the people at Google not normally use computers?
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 26, 2019, 10:53:48 AM
It's good -- it is; I'm not arguing -- that people at Microsoft are mad about MS tech being used for military systems, and that they're drawing attention to it.  But it's kind of like when Facebook IT people get upset about some new scandal.

You people know the corporation you work for is evil and has done incalculable damage to Western civilization, etc.  Come on.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on February 26, 2019, 12:36:09 PM
My corporation enables many of those to do evil.  So we're kind of like evil once removed.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 26, 2019, 12:42:10 PM
Have we complained about Windows much?  Because I really, really fscking hate Windows 10 so very, very much.  It's everything I've ever disliked and thought was wrong about Windows exaggerated into a caricature.  I'm amazed it isn't full of Clippies.

I don't want rotating nature scenes with glib fortune cookie / clickbait slogans at start up.  I don't want the Start menu to pop up on the assumption that everyone wants that.  I don't want a variety of icon sizes, or piss-poor ugly amateurish icon design (why are icons more impoverished now than they were in Windows effing 3?), or icons that goddamned MOVE and flip around.  Or video in the Start menu, FFS.  Or 'push' information coming into the Start menu.

It's like the people at MS designed a Start menu based half on the principles of Homer's car design and half on the bitter-clown design philosophy of Facebook.  What goes in a Start menu?  Any damned thing.  Who cares?

Every fscking time I plug in a thumbdrive, Windows 10 tells me "there's a problem" with it.  Click here to fix it!  If you click, it takes awhile and then says there's no problem.  Every.  Damned.  Time.  And then it pops up AGAIN to ask what you want to do with this USB drive.  I want you to shut up and put a link in the Drives section of File Explorer.  Maybe put an icon on the desktop while the drive's plugged in.  You're making this WAY too complicated.

The whole damned OS is like that.  Specially designed by idiots to be fancy but not useful.  It's like a broom with the handle studded with rhinestones that cut your hands.  It's embarrassing for anyone to find out you own it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 26, 2019, 12:44:40 PM
Quote
My corporation enables many of those to do evil.  So we're kind of like evil once removed.

If you work for a big corporation, odds are it's doing terrible things, because that's the darwinian reality of corporations, especially when they aren't regulated responsibly by society.  And, yeah, you're a bad person if you push for something unethical, whereas the rest of us just have to have a job somewhere. 

But you don't get to be suddenly offended.  You gotta draw a line somewhere, but you gotta be up front about it if you want it to mean anything.  It's like, Yeah, we step on people's necks, and we shouldn't, but I'm not OK with stepping on BABIES.  Keep it in context.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on February 26, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
The USB people need to be rounded up and ...something. Maybe placed in a maze with no exit?

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USB 3.2, which doubles the maximum speed of a USB connection to 20Gb/s, is likely to materialize in systems later this year. In preparation for this, the USB-IF—the industry group that together develops the various USB specifications—has announced the branding and naming that the new revision is going to use, and... it's awful.

USB 3.0 was straightforward enough. A USB 3.0 connection ran at 5Gb/s, and slower connections were USB 2 or even USB 1.1. The new 5Gb/s data rate was branded "SuperSpeed USB," following USB 2's 480Mb/s "High Speed" and USB 1.1's 12Mb/s "Full Speed."

But then USB 3.1 came along and muddied the waters. Its big new feature was doubling the data rate to 10Gb/s. The logical thing would have been to identify existing 5Gb/s devices as "USB 3.0" and new 10Gb/s devices as "USB 3.1." But that's not what the USB-IF did. For reasons that remain hard to understand, the decision was made to retroactively rebrand USB 3.0: 5Gb/s 3.0 connections became "USB 3.1 Gen 1," with the 10Gb/s connections being "USB 3.1 Gen 2." The consumer branding is "SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps."

What this branding meant is that many manufacturers say that a device supports "USB 3.1" even if it's only a "USB 3.1 Gen 1" device running at 5Gb/s. Meanwhile, other manufacturers do the sensible thing: they use "USB 3.0" to denote 5Gb/s devices and reserve "USB 3.1" for 10Gb/s parts.

USB 3.2 doubles down on this confusion. 5Gb/s devices are now "USB 3.2 Gen 1." 10Gb/s devices become "USB 3.2 Gen 2." And 20Gb/s devices will be... "USB 3.2 Gen 2×2." Because they work by running two 10Gb/s connections along different pairs of wires simultaneously, and it's just obvious from arithmetic that you'd number the generations "1, 2, 2×2." Perhaps they're named for powers of two, starting with zero? The consumer branding is a more reasonable "SuperSpeed USB 20Gbps."

The good part of all this is that USB 3.2 could mean 5, 10, or 20Gbps. You can bet that there will be manufacturers who are going to exploit that confusion wherever and whenever they can.

- https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/usb-3-2-is-going-to-make-the-current-usb-branding-even-worse/
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 27, 2019, 03:59:40 PM
USB is hot trash, always has been.  Granted, things could have been worse than USB, but it's a horrible piece of hardware and an embarrassment for human civilization.  The connectors are bad; the needless multiplication of connector types is moronic; the transfer tech often doesn't work properly.  Not super-often, but too often.  Kind-of sort-of hot-swappable is not good.


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For reasons that remain hard to understand

It's not hard to understand.  It's because stupid.  It's just hard to accept.

Every really good USB anything that I've ever had has used the USB socket as a power outlet.  That said, I have a lot of cool gadgets that use a USB socket for a power outlet.  So, you know.  There's that, at least.  But a new data transfer rate won't make the slightest difference to me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on February 27, 2019, 04:21:58 PM
Here's an utterly typical example of MS's design skills:

If you're using Outlook / Hotmail, and you go to the Spam folder, the buttons at the top include, you know, a Delete button.

But if you select everything in the folder, the Delete button turns into a Not Junk button.

They move the Delete button and turn the regular one into a Not Junk button.

This is stupid like if you had the brake pedal in a car you were designing turn into an accelerator pedal when you shift into Reverse.


There's a lot of this kind of 'Context Sensitive Interface' trainwreck crap out there, but MS is still the master of it, as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 05, 2019, 11:43:19 AM
Had to add up a ton of inventory numbers this morning, and our actual physical calculator has vanished.  The one on my phone is fine for the occasional calculation, but I sat down at one of our Windows 10 machines to do the endless addition.

OK, so.  The calculator app that comes with Windows 10:

- Windows-standard interface?  No.

- Good interface design?  LOL, no.  God damned ugly, with buttons that merge without spacing or visual distinction, yadda yadda.  It's like they intentionally had it designed by a person who didn't want to do it and who had never seen a calculator.  Fortunately, you can use the keyboard's number pad and only look at the screen when you need to see the total.

- The History sometimes displays your work history and sometimes doesn't.  I couldn't figure out the rhyme or reason.  Luckily, I don't care.

- It's . . . unbelievably . . . incomprehensibly . . . S L O W.

Srsly, how the fsck did they make such a slow calculator?  All I'm doing is adding numbers.  And it pauses for over a second every time it has to perform an operation.  I am teh mystified.  If you're typing in numbers and hitting the plus button fairly quickly, you'll get well ahead of it and be able to look up, stare at it in confusion, and then finally have it display the total.

I want to emphasize that LITERALLY the first commercially available transistor calculators, like this one (http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/ime_84rc.html), things the size of a typewriter and price of a family car, were faster than the Windows 10 calculator.

I'm just going to assume that it did the addition correctly, because it's not that important, but I'm genuinely going to find a copy of an older Windows calculator and see if I can install that, instead. 

Microsoft, you are hopelessly bullshit.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 05, 2019, 06:33:29 PM
I always use a spreadsheet.  Mostly because I always have several open.  And mostly because that's 80% of my work.  Haven't used a computer or phone calculator app in probably a decade or more.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 06, 2019, 03:27:55 PM
I almost envy you.  :P
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 26, 2019, 04:17:21 PM
Axe, since you are such a fan of AMP, google has now brought it to gmail. It's like its own little app running in your message.


Quote from: somebody in comments section of HN
Further to this... at this point, Google controls:

- the largest browser people use to view pages (Chrome)

- the largest platform people use to run that browser (Android)

- the largest way people discover content online (Google Search)

- the largest way people advertise online (Google Ads)

- the largest way people share video online (YouTube)

- the largest email provider (Gmail)

This is way too much power over the internet in one corporate entity.

It’s way beyond what MS ever accomplished at their height, and it’s way beyond anything Apple ever accomplished either.

The power Google have over the internet at large and the content people consume at this point frankly terrifies me.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 26, 2019, 04:39:40 PM
I detest the JS "full" version of Gmail, so I almost always only use it in basic HTML.  That seems to hold off the crap-ass AMP bullshit.

Google isn't merely way out of hand, though.  They're also stupidly evil, and just bad at their alleged core competencies.  Half of their products are such crap, now, that I either don't bother using them or constantly flirt with alternatives.

It's too bad that DuckDuckGo is so badly set up.  Bing . . . well, I expect crap from Microsoft, but a simple plain-old web search would be a lovely thing.  It could literally be one-tenth as fast as Google Search but actually search for the terms I entered, with no shenanigans or second-guessing, and I'd use it all day.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: mo on March 26, 2019, 07:14:13 PM
I detest the JS "full" version of Gmail, so I almost always only use it in basic HTML.  That seems to hold off the crap-ass AMP bullshit.

The AMP crap can be turned off in gmail, supposedly, but they won't be happy until this crap infiltrates all email clients. They'll find some way to get major players to require it somehow. For example, I recently had to install Chrome to get an online order to work with a particular site. I uninstalled it after I was finished, and tracked down all the files and folders it left behind (I hope).

That online order is another story altogether. I spent a long time getting together enough small items to qualify for free shipping. I go to look at my cart and I get a blank page in both firefox and safari. Called customer service and they offer 20% off my order if placed online. Grrr. Installed Chrome, it works. I enter all my cc info, address etc., click submit and all these messages pop up under more than half the items saying this item is no longer in stock. It wouldn't show that until I had entered all my personal info. When originally placing my order, there were items that showed they were out of stock, but the items in my cart were shown as in stock, until I submitted the order. Called customer service again, and they were like, "Oh, some items sell out really fast, they must have sold out while you were placing your order". That's somewhat plausible, seeing how it took me hours to complete the order, but obviously not true. I ended up cancelling the order. The brick and mortar store (who came up with that phrase?) is great, and their customer service is great, but the online operation is a nightmare, and history as far as I am concerned.

Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 27, 2019, 01:22:12 PM
Amazon and Google are the two behemoths now.  AWS scares me more than Google FWIW.  Anyway if you haven't seen the Bezos two-parter that South Park did last season, I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 27, 2019, 02:19:08 PM
I vastly, vastly prefer plain-text email.  I've yet to receive an email that wouldn't have been better in plain text, or text plus an attachment or link.

Also, the full-on Gmail is a cold garbage design disaster.  God, the It's Kind Of A Pop-Up But Kind Of Not A Pop-Up message composition . . . thing . . . alone demonstrates that Google couldn't find its ass with GPS and Bear Grylls helping out.

I've never actually gotten Thunderbird or another straight-ish email client to work with Gmail, but I wish I had.  I've just fucked around with it long enough to give up, a few times.  :shrug:  I've heard that people have done it. 

I'd totally pay a small monthly amount for an account with a good email interface, if there still is one, except honestly I don't get much email nowadays that isn't spam or advertisements.  Businesses still email me to make contact, but humans rarely do.  At work, we use email a little bit, but my clerks all dislike it (mostly because their experience of it is 95% shit-ass incompetent grinding ordeal school-related bullshit), and we seem to slowly be moving toward [ sigh ] a fake LAN using Dropbox.  :nonplused:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on March 27, 2019, 04:14:46 PM
Relevant.  AI (along with 5G) are the trends and:

"...It may not be an official government policy, but US industry and academia have clearly prioritized AI. I recently came across the phrase the G-MAFIA in this context, which makes it sound suitably evil, but is just the initials of 6 companies. They are Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, IBM, and Apple. All of them have huge AI efforts. That's not to say nobody else does. In some ways, all of tech has prioritized AI, and the G-MAFIA are just the biggest tech companies, and so the biggest investors. But despite the G-MAFIA, it is very international. In parallel with the G-MAFIA are BAT in China, which are Baidu, Alibaba, and Tencent, also putting a lot of effort and investment into AI." (some PhD at work)
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on March 30, 2019, 12:06:20 PM
Here's some other trendy shit I hate: 

As the mice take over again, to the detriment of the humans, and keyboard support withers, UI developers can't be bothered making 'selection' work right anymore.

My Linux install can't do selection display correctly, which is irritating as shit, but I give them a pass because it's free software.  FINE.  You don't know how to show which pane of the file manager or which window has focus; you have files in the list highlighted even though they don't have the focus either.  Totally broken, but I can live with it.

Windows 10 . . . File Explorer has at least three ways of displaying selection, and they're total crap.  They don't indicate whether the 'selection' has the focus or anything useful.  I'll be, like, OK, that file is selected, but I want to go two files down in the list, so I'll hit the cursor key (Is this new stuff?  Cursor control using the arrow buttons?), and File Explorer will . . . change the directory, because the focus is magically actually on the 'folder' list, even though there's no visual indication.

That kind of shit, all the time.

And MS has been promising since Windows 3 to learn the difference between a selected item (active) and a flagged item (constant).  But they still haven't.  Remember DOS file managers like XTree and DirMagic and Norton Commander and MS's own farking DOS Shell and so on?  They all had that basic feature.  Windows?  Still not.

Still.

FFS.  Such utter crap.  But, hey, they made the windows borders disappear and put animated buttons in the shitty pop-up menu.  So there's that.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 05, 2019, 02:57:47 PM
EVERY time I connect any USB drive to a Windows 10 machine, I get the message saying there's a problem with it and telling me I should run a scan.

EVERY time, if I do run the scan, it says there's no problem with it.

MS, if you drove a go-kart off a cliff, you'd miss the ground at the end of that fall.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 10, 2019, 01:23:50 PM
Gmail is now doing a thing where every time I manually save a draft, it creates a new copy of it.  Autosave doesn't seem to do that, but FFS.

I didn't need eight different versions of that email saved, you dumbass clown app coded by clowns.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 10, 2019, 01:25:00 PM
Also, this machine is FARKING FAST compared to every desktop I've previously owned, so why is nearly damn everything so goddamned slow in Windows 10?

JFC.  The ancient Linux machine running the crap 32-bit version of the OS is way faster.  :angry:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Talix on April 11, 2019, 08:39:17 AM
Goddamn I've missed Axe complaining about things.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on April 12, 2019, 09:56:15 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 06, 2019, 11:05:29 AM
I rarely rarely rarely use the Chromebook.  I dunno.  It's not growing on me.

It's really not a PC.  It's really a phone that doesn't make phone calls, but with a keyboard and touchpad and big screen that's not a touchscreen.  Can't emphasize that enough.

I'd say that if you get one, get one with a touchscreen.  They tend to be super sad when it comes to having USB ports and so on.  I may still see if ours will work with a USB mouse.  Our Lenovo has a so-so keyboard (you wouldn't want to type several pages at a time) and an irritating-as-fuck no-button touchpad.  The touchpad kinda sorta not-really works like a phone's touchscreen, but it's really not the same.

Beyond that, it's just not fast.  Using Chrome on it is slower than using the Chrome app on my phone.  In theory, we could run the Chrome app on the Chomebook instead of using Chrome for Chromebooks (Chrome), but I haven't tried it yet.  And the Chrome OS is nothing impressive.

So I dunno.  On the other hand, while the Chromebook cost four times as much as my $40 phone, it's cheaper than most people's phones.  And I could theoretically get my phone to print stuff using our wireless HP printer, but I wouldn't want to try setting it up to do that, and it's not too bad to print from the Chromebook . . . except you gotta print using the browser, basically, which is like using a spittoon to eat cereal.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on May 06, 2019, 01:40:26 PM
No way I'm going to switch everything to a phone.  I need a real keyboard.  My son has a keyboard case for his iPad, which could be a possibility, but doing spreadsheets and databases doesn't really work well on a phone or tablet.  I could at least do most of that on a chromebook.  Surprisingly google sheets has improved a lot and works nicely with Excel now.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on May 27, 2019, 09:51:00 AM
Had the Chromebook awhile now.

- Definitely enormously better if you use a mouse with it.  The touchpad and touchpad interface are just terrible.

- It has ONE USB port, though.  One.  Doesn't do well with a USB splitter, so, you know.  Just one thing at a time.  Feels like a dishwasher that has space for one piece of silverware.

- The Chrome OS is embarrassingly bad.  It makes me appreciate my phone . . . which is an Android phone.  How did they even do that?  I think they started with a phone OS and adapted it badly to a notebook interface.

- Chrome, itself, is still slow and insanely butt-stupid out of the box.  Yes, you can spend your life looking for extensions, but don't use the Google Store to find a good one, because the Google Store is very sad and doesn't vet stuff for crap -- instead, google for what you want and look for independent reviews.  Chrome doesn't handle extensions very well, partly because it's interface mostly boils down to You're Not Smart Enough To Have An Interface.

- The fake function keys are of the We Had A Better Idea type, where they absolutely did not have better ideas.  Controlling the address bar is hopelessly clunky, despite being fundamental, and that largely sums up Google's design philosophy for ya.

- The wifi antenna on this thing is really bad.  Which is dumb, considering that without a wireless internet connection it's a brick.  And it doesn't do LTE, or anything, nor does it have a port for a network cable, so . . . sit near a router.


So basically I use the thing to check my email from home (which is prohibitively difficult / unpleasant from my phone), to use Amazon from home, or to use Google Maps.  And almost nothing else.

I still certainly like it better than the idea of Alexa, etc.  But, lord knows, this is not good technology.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on August 30, 2019, 11:27:30 AM
Put "hotmail.com" in address bar (cold load), and you get not a Hotmail login page but a generic Outlook Live splash page with a link to a login page.  I'm sure there's some reason, but it's stupid.  Go to login, and you have to type "@hotmail.com" because the page doesn't know you were looking for Hotmail.  Also stupid.

Put "gmail.com" in, and you get . . . a generic splash page with a link to a login page.  :eyeroll:  And when you do then log in, it doesn't take you to Gmail but to a generic Google Account page that doesn't even have a convenient link to Gmail. 

FFS, you morons.

Meanwhile, Amazon has just started telling me it's approved my product reviews.  From exactly six months earlier.  Apparently all my Amazon reviews now go through six months to the day after they were submitted.  Why?  Don't even care.  I rarely bother, anyway.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on October 25, 2019, 06:39:28 PM
This is sort of understandable, but very annoying:  I learned today that if I block a caller, they can still leave me voicemail.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 05, 2019, 02:12:59 PM
How fucking shit is Amazon these days?

I go to Amazon.  I enter the phrase "sugar-free chocolate syrup" into the search function.

Thirty-six results on the first page: 

- twenty kinds of coffee (some "mocha")

- four artificial "chai tea" flavorings

- three kinds of Perrier (none chocolate, for better or worse)

- three units of Coffee-Mate artificial creamer, in two flavors, neither chocolate

- one bulk unit of Pure Leaf iced tea in single-serve bottles

- one Torani syrup pump

- one bag of matcha tea powder

- one honey dispenser

- one set of bottles for "writing" with latte foam

- one countertop sno-cone machine


FOR TREMBLING WALRUS FUCK'S SAKE, AMAZON

Why am I paying for Prime, again?  :cyber:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: flipper on November 05, 2019, 07:22:04 PM
Just did it.  A couple actual results but the first and highlighted is Rise Organic Nitro Cold Brew Coffee.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 06, 2019, 05:08:19 PM
Quote
A couple actual results

You could be one of those shopping consultants.  Purchasing agents.  Whatever they call them now.  Expenditure director?  Acquisition Officer.



edit:  I still do tags manually.  And poorly.
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: random axe on November 18, 2019, 04:23:02 PM
Running Mint v19 on one of my work machines, and I noticed that often the hard drive would be running constantly, slowing the machine down to a crawl.  Twice, it even crashed.  I never crashed a working Linux machine before.

Took some googling, but . . . the problem was that the LibreOffice free office suite version I have by default operates in a Java Runtime Environment.  Which you can just opt out of by clicking a box, if you know about it.

Instantly solved the problem.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Endless Complaining
Post by: Sidious on November 18, 2019, 09:01:33 PM
Oh god.  This.  Yes, you are correct.  And that is definitely a problem.  I've encountered that very thing before.