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Title: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 04, 2007, 06:57:22 PM
It's going ot rain. For days.
They keep vacillating as to whether or not we'll get boomers.

*edt spel czech*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: SMJW on January 04, 2007, 06:58:28 PM
Better hang your slicker by the door, just in case.....oh, don't forget the giant meathook to complete the outfit.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 04, 2007, 07:01:43 PM
We just had some kind of temper tantrum here.

From the window of the 31st floor, it was snowing like hell and the sun was raging.

Now, in the aftermath, are the coolest most excellent ice-cream looking clouds.

All the cool stuff happens when I don't bring the camera...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 04, 2007, 07:11:17 PM
It was sprinkling when I left the house today.  A quick look out the winder and the sky is blue but it looks pretty windy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on January 04, 2007, 10:17:32 PM
It was around 50 degrees today, and it's still at 46 degrees at 9:15pm. In January. In Wisconsin. It should be snowing and -3 degrees. What the blippin' hell?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: DM on January 04, 2007, 11:26:36 PM
Supposed to be 77 here tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 04, 2007, 11:53:23 PM
We're havin' a beeg windstorm. Power was out for an hour.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: DM on January 04, 2007, 11:59:20 PM
You should live where I do (Pearland).  Wind storms are common here.  In fact, while they were building my house, the foreman was telling me about how strict the building codes and inspectors are in Pearland.  The homes and buildings are reinforced really well because of the wind storms. 

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 05, 2007, 12:02:44 AM
That 100% chance of torrential rains and thunderstorms.... didn't happen.
Jackasses.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: unclejessie on January 05, 2007, 11:17:41 AM
More snow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on January 05, 2007, 11:19:55 AM
52 degrees at 7 am. In Boston. In January. Supposed to hit the high 60's tomorrow.

Clearly, I missed a memo.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 05, 2007, 11:40:06 AM
52 degrees at 7 am. In Boston. In January. Supposed to hit the high 60's tomorrow.

Clearly, I missed a memo.

Same here, only a couple of degrees higher.  My coworker's bulbs are blooming.  In her garden, perv.

That really didn't make it better, did it?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: vox8 on January 05, 2007, 11:49:55 AM
Tornadoe Warning
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 05, 2007, 12:03:18 PM
Clearly, I missed a memo.
You and Jim Inhofe, apparently.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: karion on January 05, 2007, 05:03:47 PM
Windy as all get out and the building is shaking.  I can't wait until we move offices.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 05, 2007, 05:59:15 PM
Uh oh, wind is picking up here at the office. Supposed to be even worse north of here (where I live).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 05, 2007, 06:14:51 PM
Sorry, but that was awesome.

Whitecaps on the angry green waters of Elliot Bay.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 05, 2007, 06:58:28 PM
Tornadoe Warning

But it was a beautiful sunset.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 05, 2007, 07:31:01 PM
This isn't very representative of how beautiful it was, because by the time I got home from work, it was getting sort of dark and the colors were fading. Plus, I wasn't facing the sun. It seemed even more brilliant because it had been gray soup all day long, and then all of a sudden, vivid colour.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/sunset.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 05, 2007, 07:32:50 PM
What you captured is still pretty cool.  :detta
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 06, 2007, 02:43:28 AM
It seemed even more brilliant because it had been gray soup all day long, and then all of a sudden, vivid colour.


Now you know what I like about the winters here...:D

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/333643957_714c85ede8.jpg)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hisey on January 06, 2007, 08:27:30 AM
Remember the Great Flood in My Basement of 2003? It was almost repeated last night. ugh.
We got only a smidge of water in there. Still annoying though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on January 08, 2007, 11:17:22 AM
Went for a walk with the boys on Saturday. No jackets, bought cold drinks, bizarre.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on January 08, 2007, 11:25:00 AM
Went kiteboarding on Saturday.  Got in 2 hours and just under 6 miles of riding.  Here are teh GPS tracks of my riding.


(http://www.bizb.biz/images/2007-01-06/tracks.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on January 08, 2007, 02:37:32 PM
It poured and poured and poured yesterday.  This morning, I could hear the Halleluah chorus when the sun came up.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 08, 2007, 05:29:03 PM
Friday and Saturday: warmer rain.
Sunday: cold rain.
Monday: light dusting of snow.

FEH.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 08, 2007, 09:12:01 PM
Now the meteorologists are predicting a king hell windstorm tomorrow, followed by a snowstorm of trace to three inches.

I will be barracading myself in my house to avoid all the panic-stricken Lowlanders in their SUVs sliding off the road after driving across two counties to find AA batteries.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 09, 2007, 10:33:05 AM
RAPID CHANGES IN THE WEATHER ARE EXPECTED TO TAKE PLACE LATER THIS
WEEK AS THE CURRENT VERY WARM AIR MASS GETS REPLACED BY A SURGE OF MUCH
COLDER AIR. BEGINNING LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY...A VIGOROUS
UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL DIVE SOUTHWARD ACROSS NEVADA AND
INTERIOR CALIFORNIA. DURING THIS TIME...IT APPEARS THAT THIS SYSTEM
WILL HAVE A MOSTLY OVER-LAND TRAJECTORY WITH LIMITED AVAILABLE
MOISTURE. MOST OF THE PRECIPITION THREAT INITIALLY WILL OCCUR
ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS...ESPECIALLY NORTH FACING SLOPES. MUCH COLDER
AIR WITH WINDY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO SPREAD ACROSS THE SOUTHLAND
ON THURSDAY.WITH SNOW LEVELS POTENTIALLY FALLING AS LOW AS 2000
FEET ON INTERIOR SLOPES. VERY COLD AND UNSETTLED WEATHER CONDITIONS
ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY...WITH PERHAPS ANOTHER UPPER
LEVEL IMPULSE GIVING ANOTHER CHANCE OF SHOWERS. IF ANY PRECIPITATION
WERE TO OCCUR...WHICH WILL DEPEND HEAVILY ON THE TRACK OF THIS
SYSTEM...SNOW LEVELS COULD POTENTIALLY LOWER TO 1500 FEET ACROSS
PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHLAND.


Warm ... surge ... vigorous ... dive ... I'm getting horny. WEATHER PORN!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 09, 2007, 12:57:24 PM
Yeah yeah yeah they're saying all hell's a-gonna break loose tonight blah blah blah.

We'll just have to see...could be nothing.

Me, I'm totally in favor of a snow day...no way I'm riding in in that crap.

Or for taking a bus, for that matter.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 09, 2007, 01:34:21 PM
Snow, trauma, oh noes...

None of it happened. It's sunny with just a few poofy clouds. I think they're bitter because the YOU JUST WAIT UNTIL THURSDAY....UR GONNA GETIT forecast has been rolled out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 09, 2007, 02:34:50 PM
Sunny and 75 here.
And the place is packed with half nekkid coeds.
 
Line forms to the left ...
 
*points to sign a la Bruce Campbell in that Spider-Man movie*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 09, 2007, 03:01:42 PM
I'll take the coeds.

Sunlight is overrated...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 09, 2007, 03:13:08 PM
Even more snow by this morning. Woke up to the sound of shovels scraping. I've got the goddamn heater at 23 degrees and I'm still chilly in the house.

*h8 h8 h8 h8*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 09, 2007, 03:22:27 PM
I'll take the coeds.

Sunlight is overrated...

I miss Davis.  Working as a restaurant manager in Davis had it's perks.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on January 09, 2007, 03:55:02 PM
Even more snow by this morning. Woke up to the sound of shovels scraping. I've got the goddamn heater at 23 degrees and I'm still chilly in the house.

*h8 h8 h8 h8*

That's because 23 is below freezing, silly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: bit zero on January 09, 2007, 04:39:12 PM
23 celcius, metric n00b.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 09, 2007, 05:16:31 PM
I thought that sounded cold.

Good thing you didn't crank it up to 80.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: suitep on January 09, 2007, 08:09:39 PM
Last year was a crazy weather year for us:

(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7576/weatherkk2.gif)


And it seems to be an ongoing theme.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 09, 2007, 09:11:19 PM
Good thing that that anthropogenic climate change thing is all bullshit, and this is just a natural cycle that will end in a few thousand years, eh?

PS: Don't move to Tacoma.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 09, 2007, 09:29:22 PM
Nah, don't believe a word of it. That's just Washington State Anti-Immigration Propaganda.

Move here and Mother Nature will pwn j00.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on January 09, 2007, 09:52:10 PM
Last year was a crazy weather year for us:

And it seems to be an ongoing theme.

And now it's Portland'sthe Northwest's turn. Jebus.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 10, 2007, 12:50:34 PM
PS: Don't move to Tacoma.

The National Park Service announced that Mt. Rainier Nat'l Park (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003386501_natparks10m.html) is closed until further notice. Apparently 95 percent of trails, roads, campgrounds have severe damage. It may not return to full service until Christmas.

And yay, we got two inches of snow at my house last night. The drive into work today wasn't too bad, but the temperature is supposed to start dropping midday while the next stormfront moves in.

Edit: It just started snowing at my house again. I'm signing off on the internets so I can get my pages done and get out of here ASAP. Wish me luck on the drive home!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 10, 2007, 10:34:20 PM
Roads are nasty and once again I am stuck at the office.  This time I have a vehicle, though.  As soon as they get some of the accidents off the freeways I'll head home.  Punk and about a thousand other people hit some ice and are stranded on a main road up near my place.  He was trying to pick Lilia up from daycare.  A pizza guy dropped him off there, so at least he has her.  My coworker picked them up and is trying to get them home.  After that she insists that she's coming back to get me because she has 4 wheel drive and I don't.  She thinks I won't be able to make it up the hill to my neighborhood.  :(

I hope we have an ice day tomorrow.  I've been working really late lately and could use some time off.

PS - Not to say that I've been working as much as :flipper.  It does not STBM nearly as much as it STBH.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on January 10, 2007, 10:48:31 PM
"Travel times were listed nearing 2 hours to get from Seattle and Bellevue both to Everett and to Tacoma. One reported being in traffic for 90 minutes in Kirkland to go 6 miles." (http://www.komotv.com/news/5141057.html)

Ugh. Stay safe and warm, Seattle folks.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 10, 2007, 10:56:34 PM
LRN 2 DRIVE

*snerk*

*taunt taunt tauntity taunt taunt*

/frozen rime of the Northlander
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 10, 2007, 11:35:36 PM
OK, I'll learn. Is there a school to teach desert dwellers how to deal with this white stuff on the road?

Can I get academic credit for it?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on January 11, 2007, 09:11:31 AM
LRN 2 DRIVE

*snerk*

*taunt taunt tauntity taunt taunt*

/frozen rime of the Northlander

(http://pinkdome.com/archives/Nelson.jpg)

*points at yankee on side of road in Atlanta ice storm*
*we HAVE no ice or snow equipment!*

/frozen black ice skating southener.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 11, 2007, 12:27:56 PM
Roads are nasty and once again I am stuck at the office.  This time I have a vehicle, though.  As soon as they get some of the accidents off the freeways I'll head home.  Punk and about a thousand other people hit some ice and are stranded on a main road up near my place.  He was trying to pick Lilia up from daycare.  A pizza guy dropped him off there, so at least he has her.  My coworker picked them up and is trying to get them home.  After that she insists that she's coming back to get me because she has 4 wheel drive and I don't.  She thinks I won't be able to make it up the hill to my neighborhood.  :(

I hope we have an ice day tomorrow.  I've been working really late lately and could use some time off.

PS - Not to say that I've been working as much as :flipper.  It does not STBM nearly as much as it STBH.

Yeah, it's getting a little better lately.  I only worked until 10 on Tuesday and I should get at least one weekend day off this week.  Thursdays are good though, I leave at 5 and get to hang with Ian while Sandy goes to her water aerobics class.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 11, 2007, 12:34:35 PM
Today's Mercury-News has a splendidly snarky column (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/16434102.htm) from one of their guys who's from Chicago or something (like the entire staff of the damn paper is from the midwest, can't they find anybody from San Jose to actually work there?) on how 27F isn't cold.

I'm going to pelt him with frozen oranges, see how cold that is. Damn it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 11, 2007, 12:39:18 PM
It was fucking cold this morning.  I'm just glad I bought that ice scraper (because I've never seen them at retailers here) when I was in OKC because it comes in handy these few mornings when I have to scrape ice off the windshield.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 11, 2007, 12:43:59 PM
It took me 2 hours and 45 minutes to get home last night.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 11, 2007, 12:45:31 PM
I left work just in time yesterday, about 2:30 p.m. It started snowing about two miles north on I-5 and visibility went down to near zero almost immediately. I've never seen anything quite like it. It took me 2 hours to get home; it usually takes me about 40 minutes.

Here's how it looked at the exit to my house. The picture really doesn't do the situation justice.

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 11, 2007, 12:54:24 PM
from one of their guys who's from Chicago or something

With so many people living in the Seattle who are from somewhere else (like the midwest or east, where weather like this is more common), I'm always surprised at how they seem to be the most ill-equipped, incompetent drivers when we get hit with this kind of weather.  ???
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 11, 2007, 01:15:00 PM
Probably because usually our weather is so mild, and although it may be cloudy, no real precipitation like the rain I've experienced in other cities.

When the weather does command attention, people get insecure.

Me, I tend to drive like an old person no matter what, but at least I go into super-focus mode.

Oh and today, I waited until the sun came up to attempt a bike ride into work.

I lay awake in the dark, listening to the radio, and you'd think the world had ended. It wasn't until I had the gumption to go outside to see for myself that it wasn't that bad. Cars were easily driving up 65th outside my window, and that's one of the steepest hills in town.

The roads were mostly dry, but the bike made a couple wobbly wheelspins. Woke me right up.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 11, 2007, 01:38:58 PM
If it rains here -people freak out. Ugh.
I've driven in snow, on snow, on ice blah de blah. The secret is an even pace with no sudden turns, a fwd car, and a decent set of tires. It's not that hard.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 11, 2007, 01:52:21 PM
I hate driving in snow or ice. I'll do it in the city, but I don't think I'll ever find the reason to drive over Stevens or Snoqualmie Pass while it's snow-raging, tire chains or no.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 11, 2007, 03:19:50 PM
If there's a good chance that you could get killed or stranded en route - there's no acceptable reason for going at all. That's my logic.

We're supposed to get 1-3 inches of rain. The ground is already saturated.
Should prove interesting.
I'm hoping a cold snap jumps in and there's a couple feet of snow instead. I want to see how the locals handle it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on January 11, 2007, 04:01:50 PM
I've driven in snow, on snow, on ice blah de blah. The secret is an even pace with no sudden turns, a fwd car, and a decent set of tires. It's not that hard.
The hard part for people around here is the realization that 4wd will help you go, but it doesn't do shit to help you stop.

Every fucking year we seem to need that refresher course.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 11, 2007, 04:13:17 PM
I also must be in the minority around here as far as being employed by a company that allows employees to leave work early when an impending weather disaster is forecast (or just a clueless white collar worker who isn't in touch with people who work for minimum wage and don't have any vacation time).

Still, I don't care who you are -- when the meteorologists and the state DOT are telling people to get where they need to be ASAP and sit tight, because you won't be going further than that for quite sometime, it's time to pack it up and get out of Dodge.

I was surprised at how few vehicles there were on the road when I was heading north at 2:30 p.m. Which may be why I was able to get home. It was a wise move on my part not to take a lunch break -- I think if I'd left any later it would have been exponentially worse.

Then there were the assholes in their SUVs flying along at 50-60 mph. It was somewhat comforting to see one fucker that blew pass me had gone off the freeway and into the median about 5 miles later. (not physically injured, just an idiot).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 12, 2007, 11:49:07 PM
Just out of perverse curiosity - how cold is too cold inside?

It's below 50 in here with one heater running. The second trips the breaker since each is 75% of the rated load.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 13, 2007, 12:02:16 AM
Holy cow! that's cold. Go to bed!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 13, 2007, 12:04:37 AM
That's freakin' cold, man.

I'm comfortable between 70 and 72 (F). 69 is noticibly too cold and 73 is sweat-inducing. This is indoors during the winter. For some reason that changes outside or in summer...

For the record, right now it's freezing drizzling... or as the NWS calls it, FZGDZL'ing. We're supposed to get some snow on Sunday-Monday: 1-2" on Sunday and 5-7" on Monday. Wonderful. :P

I guess I'll just stay in my apartment all weekend. I wish I weren't such a puss about driving in this weather.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 13, 2007, 02:33:36 AM
Cross-file under "Things I didn't expect to see today ...!"

Freeze Warning
Hazardous Weather Outlook
Tsunami Warning
Tsunami Watch
Wind Advisory


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 13, 2007, 02:39:05 AM
It finally warmed up in here. It's supposed to go down to 38 outside though, and we don't leave the heaters on while we're sleeping. We've got the tsunami stuff down here also, from the 8.3 earthquake in Japan.

Where's a friggin' butterfly when you need to stir up normal temps?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 13, 2007, 02:47:27 AM
How strange.. the entire Pacific coast has the orange on the map, indicating "Tsunami Warning" (not Hawaii, though) but then when you click on it it says:

NO - REPEAT NO - WATCH OR WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE
   COASTAL AREAS FROM THE CALIFORNIA-MEXICO BORDER TO THE
   NORTH TIP OF VANCOUVER I., BRITISH COLUMBIA

...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 13, 2007, 03:04:16 AM
Somebody's ass is gonna be in a sling. Heh.

We're getting none of the deluge that was promised. I love sleeping when the rain is pouring.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 13, 2007, 03:11:05 AM
It's also warmer right now than it was all day on Friday.
WTH

It's 61 degrees. Nuttery.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: slippy on January 13, 2007, 09:57:08 AM
Freeze Warning
Hazardous Weather Outlook
Tsunami Warning
Tsunami Watch
Wind Advisory

Evidently, they're forecasting EVERYTHING for your area. Fascinating.

It's been very MEH here today.

Meh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 13, 2007, 10:33:23 AM
Cross-file under "Things I didn't expect to see today ...!"

Freeze Warning
Hazardous Weather Outlook
Frogs Advisory
Tsunami Warning
Tsunami Watch
Kitchen Sink Watch
Wind Advisory




It was 28 at 6:50AM brrrr
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 13, 2007, 10:55:35 AM
How strange...

The last time they ignored one like this (couple months ago I think) a public boat dock at Crescent City got destroyed. Everywhere else got 2cm, they got something like a meter (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/11/15/california.tsunami/index.html). Special tsunami attractor, that place. So, I think we're going to get a lot of these. Somehwere on this list there will be a significant wave. Everywhere else will not. And they don't know which?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 13, 2007, 12:20:38 PM
Zorgon, I noticed the Sink Watch. It got to 33, or 24 with wind chill factored in.

And yes, I'm actually wearing a shirt inside this morning.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 14, 2007, 08:45:58 AM
It's loverly here. Highs around 70 yesterday, today and tomorrow. Turning crappy during the work week, but it's like springtime out there.  ;D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 14, 2007, 12:22:31 PM
Snow is falling. 10 to 15 cm over today and tomorrow. Then a couple days of sun but very cold, then a couple more days of snow predicted.

At least Aidan is happy - he told me this morning he wants to build snowmen and go sledding.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: thegrue on January 14, 2007, 03:16:40 PM
Rain.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: unclejessie on January 14, 2007, 03:18:40 PM
Not to get into a pissing match over cold temps but it was 2 F last night.  Dipping into the below 0 F temps tonight, tomorrow night, and tuesday night.

Boo that shit.

Edit: Looks like my grammar is still froze.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 14, 2007, 03:19:08 PM
Yup.
It's sporadic and seems to really pour about two hours after I've fallen asleep and has done so for three consecutive nights. Irritating.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on January 14, 2007, 04:59:14 PM
26 degrees currently and a Winter Storm Warning in effect until 10:30pm local time.

Fan.fucking.tastic.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 14, 2007, 07:35:41 PM
Snow is falling. 10 to 15 cm over today and tomorrow. Then a couple days of sun but very cold, then a couple more days of snow predicted.

That's how it's been here the last two days... dammit, I wish I still had my cross country skis. I was on the treadmill at the athletic club and had a picture perfect view of people down below on the airport trail skiing.  :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on January 15, 2007, 01:40:19 PM
Snow! Several inches of it and still more falling!

Why can't I have a holiday today?  :(

Edit: Sweet. My member is full.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 15, 2007, 02:56:39 PM
We got barely an inch. How disappointing.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 15, 2007, 03:30:08 PM
We got down into the teens overnight.

(upon rereading that, it could qualify for the FSTOOCOTD)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 15, 2007, 06:43:30 PM
Record high today - 73.

Tonight - rain and low of 46. Tomorrow - windy and high of 44.

Thursday - sl33t!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 15, 2007, 06:51:29 PM
S'posed to snow again tomorrow... 1-3 inches. :D

Currently: Air Stagnation Advisory -- Unhealthy for Sensitive Groups

 :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 15, 2007, 07:54:05 PM
Got down to 25 here last night. Jeebus Frist. I hope I still have fruit.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 15, 2007, 08:11:48 PM
It didn't ice storm like it was supposed to.
That's not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 15, 2007, 08:22:04 PM
We forgot to cover the lime tree the past two nights.  I hope it's not dead, Jim.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 15, 2007, 11:44:01 PM
Well it ain't just whistling Dixie here...

It's still been too cold overall to melt the nasty glitches of ice on most side streets.

Especially in the sticks. I got turned back on an Island visit last Friday...sheets of ice on the pavement. No thanks. I started sliding and spinning and had to do some quick maneuvering...

Hardly a wasted trip, though. Made it to a beach south of the desired haunt. You can see snow on the field in the distance...more like tiny ice pellets.

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5955/ftcaseyze2.jpg)!! (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4305/ftcaseyug6.jpg)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 16, 2007, 12:14:06 AM
If we hadn't sprayed the fruit trees so their fruit was inedible, I think the ice the last two nights have done the fruit in.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 16, 2007, 09:15:46 AM
It was 25 when I got up. F!

F that noise.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 16, 2007, 10:53:14 AM
Hard to believe it's colder where you are.

We've got about an inch of snow here, but the roads look extremely uninviting.

With hidden stubborn patches of ice beneath.

Ugh. The idea of navigating the east walkway of the Fremont Bridge doesn't sound thrilling today, sorry. Might have to retreat into the nice warm air flowing out of the register.



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Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: suitep on January 16, 2007, 11:23:57 AM
Uninviting is right. I'm still debating on whether to drive into work or not.

View from my deck:

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3995/newdigcam051zp9.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 16, 2007, 11:46:13 AM
An hour ago it was still below freezing. Bright sun too.

It's dry though. Really effing dry. There's a wildfire going on up by Montaña de Oro, and red flag fire warnings all throughout the inland south.

Hah. Bet you never considered that, Robert Frost you smug bastard.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 16, 2007, 01:36:34 PM
More snow here too. I'm also on the fence about driving in to work today. I can do most of my work at home, but the reality of that makes my boss nervous. God forbid anyone should prefer working from home to sitting in the metaphorical and literal mausoleum that is our office.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on January 16, 2007, 01:43:20 PM
Hah. Bet you never considered that, Robert Frost you smug bastard.

(http://www.int4rw3b.com/emoticons/spit.gif)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 16, 2007, 02:16:07 PM
Yeah, we've been really dry.  There's just a little bit of hard ice on the windshield to scape off, unlike the large amount of frost that we usually get when it's in the low 30s.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 18, 2007, 12:13:38 PM
Back to normal up here--so far.

It is a biatchilly out, though. Mid 30s (3-5C)...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 18, 2007, 01:44:57 PM
This flyover state is warmer than y'all.
45 degrees.

*rude dance*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 20, 2007, 11:51:55 PM
-19 C right now. That's below zero in F. That's without wind chill.

h8.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 21, 2007, 11:40:51 AM
We got ice, ice, baby.

*shakes ass*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: SMJW on January 21, 2007, 01:15:21 PM
I woke up to about an inch and a half of sleet/slush/snow today.  really our first of the season.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 21, 2007, 02:14:59 PM
My brother in MD said they just started receiving snowflakes. They're the first ones since last March. Of course, he has to fly to a conference tonight, and the forecast for the drive time calls for freezing rain.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 21, 2007, 03:35:35 PM
The ice that was here this morning is now gone.

Every OHNOEZ weather event predicted has not come to pass here. They should just change the forecast to "Look outside. If you want to know what the weather will be like later, look outside later" and be done with it. Gits.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 21, 2007, 03:57:29 PM
I feel the desire to defend meteorologists, but I don't have the energy.

Get yourself a weather rock.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on January 21, 2007, 04:46:24 PM
Hey, more snow! Tonight, we're braving the roads to go play glo-in-the-dark croquet at a friend's house. We were promised poutine.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 22, 2007, 10:50:37 AM
Dopey anecdote time:
There was one guy on WLKY/HAS/TFH (back when I was working at the Hive) who got fed up and said "Look, I'm not going to lie to ya, no one can be certain which track this storm system is gonna take - and this is why..." He clanged hard at the school bell just laid it all on out in detail and pwned everybody that saw or heard it. I considered buying the feed since it was one of my favorite weather outbursts of all time. What's even better is that the station chose not to cut away even though they went way over into ad time. It think there was something like 9 seconds left of the ad that was overrun. I didn't note that in the report. Heh. I guess he keeps his Pimp Clicker hand strong over there.
The others must all get tranqs or something because they just seem to pretend that nothing's wrong. Maybe they've been told to dumb it down for the audience or something...

Oh great. Now I'll have to spend the next few weeks trying to track it down on Google video.


I feel the desire to defend meteorologists, but I don't have the energy.

Get yourself a weather rock.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 22, 2007, 08:07:13 PM
yesssss dooo eet, find the veedio!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 02, 2007, 10:03:03 PM
The weather here is, using strict meteorological terms, fucking cold.

Earlier today it was 8F, wind chill of -24F. This weekend isn't looking any better.  Sunday they're looking at a high temp of 2F, wind chills in the -20s to -30s. Guh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 02, 2007, 10:27:41 PM
I can't find that freaking video. Argh!

And yeah, KY has the lite version of your arctic blast.
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Pigs get covered at night, and sit under their sun lamp all day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 02, 2007, 10:46:44 PM
It's s'posta go back to "normal" here starting tomorrow with rain and temps reaching 50. All hail our outgoing two weeks of clear, cold weather. Yes, 40 degree temperatures ARE cold. STOP LAUGHING!!

VREETVREETVREETVREET!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on February 02, 2007, 10:53:31 PM
/me sends whidB and the rest of Seattle the snowdrifts in her front yard.

Merry Groundhog Day!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on February 02, 2007, 10:58:29 PM
Right now it's 5 degrees outside and feels like -10.
Saturday we're expecting an overnight low of -11, and that doesn't even factor in the windchill.
Sunday, a high of 2 degrees! TWO WHOLE DEGREES!
Next Friday's projected 23 degrees look reaaaaaaally good right now.

*hibernates*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 02, 2007, 11:01:23 PM
It was -4 C today (with wind chill -10 C) and this was the GOOD day of the past week and for the next week, since it's all colder than that before and after. Bleh.

My mother is visiting this weekend and she lives in a tropical country. I had the heat up to 23 C and she was asking for a blanket to huddle under in the living room. I turned it up to 24 C and she still had her sweater on telling me how cold it was. I thought *I* had thin blood. She thinks I'm nuts because I'm in a tank top and shorts, but yo, 24 C is pretty freakin' warm in the house, srsly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 02, 2007, 11:42:51 PM
*Does the necessary calculations*

I swear, living so close to Latitude 49 I'm going to get used to Celsius by sight one of these years.

Conversions suck. Why can't you just multiply the temperature by .6 like you do with clicks and miles? :cry

or I could just bookmark a  F--->C script (http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm) and stop whining about it.

Hmmm...Yes, you're right. 24 in the house can be somewhat uncomfortable. I just had to close the vent myself...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 03, 2007, 12:24:37 AM
I just use Google to do C to F for all my relatives. Resetting my own mental habits to Celsius and metric has been such a pain in the ass that I stick to them so as not to lose what ability I've gained in interpreting them on the fly.

Yeah, I mean I don't mind having the heat at 24 C (it's dry heat after all; humidity is what'll kill you, and I don't like winter at all, I like warmth), it's just that I can't wear winter clothes and have it at 24 C. In the meantime she's in jeans, socks, slippers, long sleeves, and a sweater, asking for a blanket as soon as I drop the heat one degree.

....

Thank god the heat is included in the rent. If we were paying for this, gah.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: thegrue on February 03, 2007, 06:15:15 AM
The weather here is, using strict meteorological terms, fucking cold.

With a side order of lakefront God-Damned Bullshit.

Again...technical terms. :)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on February 03, 2007, 08:51:21 AM
The weather here is, using strict meteorological terms, fucking cold.

With a side order of lakefront God-Damned Bullshit.

Again...technical terms. :)

Hee!

ObOnTopic:  27, feels like 11.  Balmy!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: slippy on February 03, 2007, 11:07:34 AM
The wind was so cold this morning it gave me a headache.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on February 03, 2007, 02:34:27 PM
Warm (~34ish) and rainy last night.

Dropped below 20 during the night.

Shiny!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on February 03, 2007, 02:43:25 PM
0, feels like -18. I'm not leaving the house. I'm not even opening the door to check the mail.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 03, 2007, 03:11:14 PM
It's in the upper 20's, but the wind is pretty fierce.
Pigs are pissed off because I haven't flicked the sun lamp on yet.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on February 03, 2007, 07:08:32 PM
I think it's trying to snow here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 03, 2007, 11:39:56 PM
We actually had something called a "wind chill warning in effect" here today.

I went out in it twice. Ugh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on February 04, 2007, 09:33:19 PM
We have that in place for tonight.

Yay.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 04, 2007, 09:46:14 PM
We do too.

Stupid cold air.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: thegrue on February 04, 2007, 10:01:35 PM
I really need to learn to grocery shop for real.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hisey on February 04, 2007, 10:54:30 PM
Just.. damn. It's really cold outside.

They've closed every school in three counties because of the windchill. Thanks, Canada!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 04, 2007, 11:36:57 PM
It's funny, the Northeast blames Canada (in Buffalo they always bitch about cold fronts from Canada), but when we get this kind of crappy weather the weatherpeople here usually blame the US. Har har har.

We had it even worse today. Another one of those wind chill warnings: it was -17 C feels like -28 C. The walk to Quaker meeting this AM (which isn't even 10 minutes from my house to the meetinghouse) was brutal. I don't even need to bundle up more so much as just any exposed skin (my face) is freezing. I went out this afternoon shopping and, ugh, no, the parking lot was all snow whipping around. Strip malls in winter suck ass.

I hate hate hate winter. Canada needs to conquer Florida or something, srsly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on February 05, 2007, 09:36:51 AM
Word - then I could live there.

Well, not Florida so much - how about a Carolina?

This morning my car said it was 9.  That is not a temperature.  That is a football score.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on February 05, 2007, 09:46:40 AM
Did I wake up in Boston or something?

It's fucking freezing.

*looks out window, sees cracked bell*

wtf?

You could power a sterling engine with a fucking ice cube around here.

/:geek
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 05, 2007, 01:46:12 PM
I think it got up to 70 yesterday.  It's been a really mild February so far.  Usually I freeze my ass off on the pool deck on the way to the pool, but not this month.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: SMJW on February 05, 2007, 05:35:24 PM
It was 4 degrees here this morning when I headed to work, moved up to about 16 degrees this afternoon.  I think it's supposed to be colder tonight.  We aren't supposed to get these temps.......no sir, I don't like it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on February 05, 2007, 06:20:40 PM
Last week, we heated the house by burning a couple dozen pieces of firewood every day.

Yesterday, we heated the house by opening all the windows.

Last month, my already beleaguered fruit trees were defoliated by unusually persistent frosts.

This month, they think it's June.

IT'S A MADHOUSE!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 05, 2007, 06:32:51 PM
My car did NOT want to start this morning. Then, after it did, it made a terrible noise and I thought for sure it was going to explode. So I turned it off and tried again. Same noise, but it died down after a few seconds into an only "it'll probably explode" roar instead of a "omg get out of the car and run away now" type noise. Car no likey the cold. Lori no likey the cold.

*goes to get more socks*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: SMJW on February 05, 2007, 11:09:24 PM
Car no likey the cold. Lori no likey the cold.

Car no likey cold oil with the consistency of maple syrup.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 05, 2007, 11:20:54 PM
My car did NOT want to start this morning. Then, after it did, it made a terrible noise and I thought for sure it was going to explode. So I turned it off and tried again. Same noise, but it died down after a few seconds into an only "it'll probably explode" roar instead of a "omg get out of the car and run away now" type noise. Car no likey the cold. Lori no likey the cold.

*goes to get more socks*

:rollin
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 05, 2007, 11:23:24 PM
It's 12 degrees ATM.
Brrrrrr.
Even with the 'stat set to 70/72, our heating bill will be close to $700+ next month.
Wish I was exaggerating. Ugh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 05, 2007, 11:54:51 PM
So I guess the comment about the wonderful sea air smell tonight is...dangerous.

*bites lip*

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 06, 2007, 12:00:58 AM
bitch

;) ;D

Gorram it. I keep getting electrocuted every time I walk across the room. Stupid winter.
I'd rather be blatting about the humidity.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 06, 2007, 12:27:13 AM
The cat feels the same way. She'll see me from across the room and come running over for me to pet her and then stop a little short and kinda wince as she slowly moves in for the pets, anticipating the shocks. Poor thing. One too many shocks to the nose/tip of the ear'll do that, I think.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on February 06, 2007, 12:41:19 AM
There's frost on the baseboard in one corner of our living room's little alcove. ON THE INSIDE.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: thegrue on February 06, 2007, 12:50:51 AM
I got frost in my pants.

...

I think I'm in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on February 06, 2007, 01:01:44 AM
I got frost in my pants.

Josh Frost?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on February 06, 2007, 09:18:17 AM
I got frost in my pants.

Josh Frost?

Lucky bastard!

Today we've been blessed with double digits.  10!  Tropical!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on February 06, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
I need to move south.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on February 06, 2007, 09:25:21 AM
No frickin' duh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 06, 2007, 09:35:59 AM
14 degrees....wooooooooooo

1-3 inches of snow possible = OHSNOES warnings. Jeeze Louise.
 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on February 06, 2007, 12:52:59 PM
Good: It's snowing, which should mean it's no longer unbearably frigid.
Bad: It's fucking snowing. I'm done with winter.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 06, 2007, 07:12:37 PM
It was sunny and in the high 60s when I snuck out for lunch to go to Ian's music class.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 06, 2007, 09:12:12 PM
Snow warning is going to be a big waste of time.
It's still not snowing here.

I was told there would be snow.

*scoffs*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on February 07, 2007, 09:52:26 AM
Ian's music class.

Huh?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on February 07, 2007, 10:11:04 AM
Ian's music class.

Huh?

You beat me to it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 07, 2007, 10:13:50 AM
My guess is first round of shots at the doctor's.
Always a good source of operatic singing.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on February 07, 2007, 10:59:33 AM
Yesterday, it was bright and sunny on the long drive. Today it was foggy and cloudy. It took twenty minutes less to drive here today.

*loves the fog*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 07, 2007, 12:44:04 PM
Ian's music class.

Huh?

Musical Me (http://musicalme.com/classes.shtml) Ian goes to the infants class.  Yesterday he had fun beating the drum and shaking the egg.  He just wanted to try and eat the maraca, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on February 07, 2007, 02:02:54 PM
pxplzkthnks
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 07, 2007, 02:10:10 PM
I didn't bring a camera.  But next time I'm able to escape from work and go, I'll try to remember to bring one.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on February 07, 2007, 02:21:40 PM
Teach him "Smoke on the Water".
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 07, 2007, 02:50:04 PM
The class has a CD with about 25 songs on it, that we've been listening to and we sing the songs in class.  Sadly there was no Deep Purple on it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on February 07, 2007, 03:00:58 PM
HOME SCHOOL!!!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 07, 2007, 03:17:59 PM
Oh he'll be exposed to all sorts of good stuff.  We were listening to college radio on the return trip home.  KSCU was playing some interesting stuff.  He's also been to his first live music.  A Balkan folk band that my friend is in.  It will probably be a while before he experiences his first amplified live music though.  I was pondering taking him to see Robin play on this Friday or Saturday.  Oh you should check it out, he's heading down your way too (http://www.bizarreconfessions.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=cd556662a016bc1ca15828c9b9ce9b54&topic=182.0)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on February 07, 2007, 03:32:44 PM
The Dana Point date is a possibility. We shall see.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: thegrue on February 13, 2007, 11:36:57 PM
You know what I'm looking at outside? Crazy shit. That's what.

We've lost a parking spot. I mean, it's gone. Maybe, someday, if the snow is nice enough to melt, we might get it back. Or the snow might melt only to reveal a pure lack in the fabric of existence. Whatevs.

I also might get my car back. hopefully by Friday. I've got a job interview that day. Or, if I'm lucky, by Thursday, when I'll need to go buy more chili-making ingredients.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 13, 2007, 11:49:34 PM
Ugh. I don't envy any of that. Hope it melts soon...

Today was beautiful, give me ten more degrees. Probably not for another couple months...maybe three.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/109/305437767_b0422fd916.jpg)!! (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/109/305437767_b0422fd916_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on February 14, 2007, 12:25:19 AM
My parents were supposed to leave tomorrow morning to meet their new grandson.  All flights out of South Bend have been canceled.  :(  They can't get out til Friday and they're going to lose a visiting day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on February 14, 2007, 08:44:25 AM
We got 9+ inches of snow yesterday/last night.

Most of it was blowing and drifting, so a picture doesn't do it justice. 

(http://www.bizb.biz/cam_dump/200702140827301.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on February 14, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
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Now that the cardio workout is done, I can't wait to go play in it!


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on February 14, 2007, 01:59:07 PM
You know what I'm looking at outside? Crazy shit. That's what.

So what's the official measurement so far where you are? I thought I heard it had snowed 11 feet in New York state. But that could have been the Vicodin talking.

I love the snow. Though maybe I wouldn't like it so much after I'd lived somewhere for awhile where it was on the ground all winter. Around here, it's amusing because a couple of inches can shut the entire region down.

I guess I like snow because it's Mother Nature's rebellion against order.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 14, 2007, 02:10:36 PM

I love the snow. Though maybe I wouldn't like it so much after I'd lived somewhere for awhile where it was on the ground all winter.

It's not so much snow that I found annoying living in the Midwest, it was the ice. As in being trapped in the driveway for a week.

I love the quiet of a good snow, though. And everything is brilliant and easy to see at night walking in it...


Quote
Around here, it's amusing because a couple of inches can shut the entire region down.

That never fails to amaze me. I guess because the wintry attack is so inconsistent year by year. And yet we get it in the higher elevations every year. Why do people pretend it's such a new thing every winter?

I guess I like snow because it's Mother Nature's rebellion against order.
[/quote]
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on February 14, 2007, 02:16:24 PM
I think a lot of the problem is we have so many hills in this region. The midwest tends to be flat, or has hills of the gently rolling kind.

But considering there are so many people that live here now who are from somewhere else (i.e., the 45 states that reliably get extreme weather conditions every winter), you'd think there's be more people who knew how to handle themselves in one of our famously underwhelming snowstorms.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on February 14, 2007, 03:02:43 PM
It seems like a plurality of our transplants are from SoCal, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on February 14, 2007, 03:20:05 PM
I haven't always lived in SoCal. I've often said I miss the winter snows. But what I really miss is spring. Those first warm days when everyone walks around hatless again, and the streets are a mass of blinding rivulets, and little green buds appear on naked branches, and the birds chirp like maniacs.... That's what I miss. But you have to have the snow first, so it's all good.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on February 14, 2007, 03:23:57 PM
I meant transplants to Seattle.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on February 14, 2007, 03:37:33 PM
Ya, I know... my post was a non-sequitor. You mentioned So Cal and my ears stood up. Sort of like when you say "bath" and the dog runs out of the room.

I should've put in a transition.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 14, 2007, 03:40:51 PM
I haven't always lived in SoCal. I've often said I miss the winter snows. But what I really miss is spring. Those first warm days when everyone walks around hatless again, and the streets are a mass of blinding rivulets, and little green buds appear on naked branches, and the birds chirp like maniacs.... That's what I miss. But you have to have the snow first, so it's all good.


Wow, geez. You don't get that at all, huh?

I was just thinking about how wonderfully overwhelming it's going to be in March with the millions of flowering buds and coniferous pollen action from the foothills/mountains.  Slowly rising temperatures.

And there will be a week in April where the shorts get worn, finally. It's out of control. Probably won't get "hot" until May or mid-June.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on February 14, 2007, 03:44:29 PM
I need to become a transplant.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: thegrue on February 14, 2007, 09:42:52 PM
Not sure what the official measurements are. I've heard everything from 8 inches to 24 inches.

Whatever it is, it was a pretty decent chunk of change, all at once.

Here's the view out my window earlier (http://flickr.com/photos/18191692@N00/390539029/).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 15, 2007, 12:06:18 AM
I didn't think it dumped that much here overnight - the report said 10 to 15 cm - but my husband told me he had to push two feet of snow off the car this morning since it all drifted. I had to go out today and the snow was piled up everywhere. It was sunny all afternoon though so everyone was out in the cold shovelling, and at least it was sunny because it was still freakin' cold. Anywhere that the sidewalks weren't clear was over knee-deep and I saw these poor people picking their way through it. Driving was crummy since even the main streets had a couple layers of snow ice slush and other yuck on them.

Right now it's -19 C feels like -28 C with wind chill and it's been like this every day for a month now. We've had a couple days where it "warms up" to, like, -6 C, and then it drops right back down again into the windy bitterness.

I like snow for visiting. If I visit it for a week or two and I can see the pretty snow falling through the window as I sit by a nice warm fire with a book and a cat in my lap, that's great. Cooped up in the house with two small wound-up boys for weeks on end because it's too bloody cold to even go on the porch is miserable. It's even too cold to kick them outside for half an hour to make a snowman!

I think what bugs me too is that winter is sooooo long but spring and fall are so short these days. It's seriously like three or four weeks of transition only. I wouldn't mind winter so much if it didn't start in October, SHEESH, when I'm just starting to get into the colorful trees and apple cider, and if it finished at a decent time, like say mid-March, instead of not even seeing buds on the trees 'til well into May. =P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on February 15, 2007, 09:27:26 AM
Snow day yesterday.

Crusty frozen-over pain in the ass today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on February 15, 2007, 09:29:43 AM
Snow day yesterday.

Crusty frozen-over pain in the ass today.
Tell us about the weather, not your date.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on February 15, 2007, 10:00:36 AM
I had a date?!

w00t!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 15, 2007, 04:47:37 PM
We got nothin out of the storm, in spite of the NWS whipping up an OH SNOES! fury.
They're putting disclaimers on the forecasts now which is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: thegrue on February 15, 2007, 11:41:47 PM
It's a good thing I decided to leave the apartment today while the plow guy was here. Otherwise, I wouldn't be driving anywhere until June. The previous iterations of the plow guy had seen fit to plow me in on all three sides.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 19, 2007, 11:36:06 PM
We took Ian to the beach today.  Perfect day!  In the 70s.  I have a little bit of a sunburn.  :bolt
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 20, 2007, 02:39:56 PM
60 degrees.
Huh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on February 25, 2007, 03:52:19 AM
Okay. It was nearly 50 degrees earlier this week. All the snow was melting.

Now we're under a blizzard warning until Sunday night. I've got pictures yet to come.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 28, 2007, 09:07:12 PM
Quote
A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP AHEAD OF AN
APPROACHING COLD FRONT THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THERE IS A
SLIGHT RISK THESE STORMS COULD BECOME SEVERE...WITH DAMAGING
WINDS OR LARGE HAIL POSSIBLE. THE LINE OF STORMS SHOULD REACH A
LOUISVILLE TO BOWLING GREEN LINE BETWEEN 3 PM AND 6 PM EST..


Ehhhhhhhh. Maybe. I'm kind of skeptical at this point. I'll be making that staple of Tornado-bait Park Caucasian-American Refuse tomorrow night just in time for the boomers - Hot dogs w/Kraft Mac n Cheese so at least we'll be prepared if the 'nadoes come. I might wanna go get a bottle of 7 Deadly Zins. Just in case they get the forecast right.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 28, 2007, 09:29:04 PM
7 Deadly Zins!  Nice :detta
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on March 01, 2007, 12:27:45 AM
Out of nowhere we get hit by a Northwest "blizzard" today -- a 40 minute commute home became an excruciating 3 hour drive. What a frickin nightmare.

We've got about 3 inches of snow on the ground (so far). I'm staying put.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 01, 2007, 12:57:56 AM
Three hours...holy crap!

Me, I happened to notice a few car hoods thick with snow and wondered "wha? Did it snow sometime this morning??"

If I'd gone out on my ride a little sooner, I would have got slammed. It's cold, too. Damn better start warming up. This is March now.

A month packed with winter storm surprises IIRC. I wonder if the Super Pollen Smell will begin in the third week, or hold out until sometime in April?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 01, 2007, 10:36:57 PM
Driving home from Bflo tonight was fuuuuuuucked. Freezing rain then just rain but iced on the roads then snow and snowplows and mixed in slush then pellet snow and windy. I am so glad to be in my house and out of the goddamn car.

Yeesh.

All the snow that melted in the past on-and-off few days of the weather inching above freezing is back after that snowdump.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on March 02, 2007, 03:37:06 PM
I hope everyone back east made it through the "bad weather outbreak" (that's how they've been referring to it on the news out here) in one piece.  ???
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 07, 2007, 04:20:40 PM
(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/192/spaceneedlesy2.gif)
I've been checking my Space Needle Cam (http://images.earthcam.com/spaceneedle/live.php) instead of looking out the window lately. Thanks to all people Baahston for turning me on to it.

Pretty cool. Bonus: tells the temperature.

Easier than getting up and opening the blind.

If I hear a sudden tire skid outside the window, it's a sure bet it's raining.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 07, 2007, 04:49:46 PM
Summer's started down here. My annoyance is easily confused for a first degree sunburn.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 07, 2007, 04:53:41 PM
Summer is teasing us here.  It's been in the 70s most days but it's going down into the low 40s at night. It looks like it wants to be summer but just can't quite commit. The jasmine on that one house on the corner of Cherry and Maxine is starting to bloom.  So my walks with the dogs are getting more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 07, 2007, 05:53:13 PM
Hmmm. I wonder if we've got something like that here in Atlanta I don't now about. They show pics on tv from the top of some building downtown, but I've never tried to find out if it's online.

It's getting pretty nice down here too. There's a few things that are starting to bud out. I'm ready.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on March 07, 2007, 09:17:56 PM
It was 68 degrees at our house yesterday. Too bad I'm a freakin cripple so I can't do any work in the garden.  :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on March 07, 2007, 09:35:09 PM
It didn't get above 28F today or 24F yesterday. And we got a couple inches of snow last night. WTF?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on March 07, 2007, 11:15:36 PM
7 at Rockefeller Plaza this morning.

Joy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 08, 2007, 08:36:50 AM
Cold snap earlier this week (back down to those -20 C "feels like -28 C" days) but today it's supposed to start rising - and by tomorrow be above freezing AND STAY THERE. (According to the 14-day trend, anyway.)

Oh man, I am so crossing my fingers.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 08, 2007, 10:57:15 AM
Mid 50's allegedly for the remainder of this week, then mid 60's next week. The suck part is that it's supposed to rain next week, so that means I need to apply the weed killer and get more mulch on the beds before Saturday. That's IF the forecast pans out. I put that at a solid, 100% chance of ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on March 08, 2007, 01:53:46 PM
29F currently, and they're teasing us with 45F tomorrow.

stoat, you want to send any thunderstorms my way, I'd be much obliged. I miss 'em.

Edited: because I'm a moron.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 08, 2007, 03:05:22 PM
Will do!

 :D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on March 08, 2007, 05:21:54 PM
29C currently, and they're teasing us with 45C tomorrow.

 :o 113F?   :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 08, 2007, 05:53:10 PM
We really need a conversion chart in here.

It's gone from pretty damn nice to absolutely perfect here, but the forecast is back to more of pretty damn nice.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on March 08, 2007, 09:53:54 PM
29C currently, and they're teasing us with 45C tomorrow.

 :o 113F?   :P

Bah, I knew I did that backwards.
I want to smite myself for that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on March 08, 2007, 10:18:23 PM
Here, I'll smite you.

Does that feel better?   :-*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on March 08, 2007, 10:35:02 PM
Thank you, mistress, may I have another?  ;D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 09, 2007, 02:13:01 AM
*smites in Celsius*

:knotty
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 12, 2007, 11:56:24 AM

Tuesday: Partly cloudy, with a high near 75. Southwest wind between 6 and 15 mph.



 :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 12, 2007, 11:59:53 AM
It was in the 80s here yesterday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 12, 2007, 12:02:40 PM
97 in our neck of the woods. And yes, it's still winter -- somewhere else, obviously.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 12, 2007, 01:07:27 PM
Pffft. It's like that all year 'round out there.
Cali don' have no seasons.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 12, 2007, 01:08:33 PM
That's SoCal.  Up here in NoCal, we have two seasons.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 12, 2007, 01:33:45 PM
3. You get the bonus Fire Season!

*phones UPS to have a couch delivered*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 12, 2007, 11:55:08 PM
3. You get the bonus Fire Season!

*phones UPS to have a couch delivered*
Anticipates seeing a creosote bush in the shape of a couch, burning.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on March 13, 2007, 09:31:37 PM
It was definitely spring in Manhattan today. Wished I had more time to walk.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 14, 2007, 03:15:59 PM
It was 80 yesterday. Temperature is dropping like a rock now thanks to the inbound boomers.
It'll cool off again, then warm up, then cool down, then warm up again and pass G0, collect $200, and land on 1000% humidity.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on March 14, 2007, 03:28:42 PM
We had snow and hail at my house this morning.   :'(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 14, 2007, 04:52:25 PM
77 here right now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on March 14, 2007, 05:08:07 PM
I checked the temp as I was driving home from work.  Sick.  :(  It was 84, I think.

So I need to mulch when in the what?  I'm no good at mulch.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on March 14, 2007, 08:12:57 PM
Sunny and 70 today in Boston. Snow expected tomorrow night and into the weekend...

 ???
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on March 14, 2007, 09:03:09 PM
Beautiful and sunny and 63 degrees in Madison yesterday. Today, 45 and rainy. Tonight, snow flurries expected.  I second Law's  ???
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on March 14, 2007, 09:07:20 PM
Yeah it was 73 yesterday, right now it's 37, and tonight we're supposed to get 1-2 inches of snow.  ???
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on March 14, 2007, 09:30:16 PM
Quote
Thanks to Gore, all is now possible
I wanted to take some space in The Herald to thank Al Gore for his Oscar win with "An Inconvenient Truth" and his participation in creating the Internet, for without either I would not be able to write about the 8 inches of global warming that recently covered the county! Thank you, Al Gore!

Douglas Barrows
Granite Falls

I don't know why, but this seemed kind of appropriate here.  ::)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 15, 2007, 02:06:33 AM
Well, Granite Falls is kind of a time warp, now isn't it? I hope they still have that Greek spaghetti place though. That rocked after a hike.

And I'm not too surprised by our usual March weather, but I hate teases when it gets up into the 60s and 70s and then nestles back in the mid-50s. Rainy, natch, but not too bad for bike rides...:)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on March 15, 2007, 08:47:49 PM
Damned Smarch weather.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on March 16, 2007, 06:51:12 PM
cold and wet here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on March 17, 2007, 09:10:38 AM
Florida-weekend-defying here.

 :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on March 17, 2007, 10:36:36 AM
snow covered ground this morning...beautiful
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Law on March 17, 2007, 01:26:21 PM
8 inches of snow on the ground this morning. Not so beautiful.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on March 17, 2007, 03:45:58 PM
Cold but sunny here. I could only hope for 12 inches of snow to keep the drunks at bay tonight.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 17, 2007, 05:52:51 PM
Cold but sunny here. I could only hope for 12 inches of snow to keep the drunks at bay tonight.
Is that what it takes?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on March 18, 2007, 10:26:47 PM
That and a taser.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 19, 2007, 02:47:04 AM
March is like a well-known Clash song...

always tease tease tease

And it's futile to expect more than one day at a time of such agreeable outdoor temps, just enjoy it. At least that's what I tell myself...
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/426446817_fff0a78768.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 20, 2007, 12:57:19 PM
60 degrees and wicked humid.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on March 20, 2007, 04:16:37 PM
Snowing/sleeting, not sticking.

*turns up space heater by desk*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 20, 2007, 04:46:21 PM
Sheeeit....
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 20, 2007, 05:45:13 PM
It's awesome here. I've got a couple of screen doors open, listening to the mockingbird, who has been singing for at least the past 30 minutes straight.

It's supposed to be 80 on Saturday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 20, 2007, 06:15:27 PM
It's been beautiful here for weeks now.  It did sprinkle a little today but it's still in the 70s.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on March 20, 2007, 08:47:19 PM
Our heater wouldn't turn off this morning so I had the windows open because it was so hot.  The maintenance guys replaced my thermostat but didn't close the door, so it was pretty cold when we got home.  It's about 35 degrees here.  A few miles east of us (maybe 10) they have 2 inches of snow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 20, 2007, 08:48:57 PM
It's been beautiful here for weeks now.

It's supposed to be 80 on Saturday.

Sheeeeit....

*turns on space heater in the mind*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 21, 2007, 06:13:40 AM
Yeah, no kidding, it's still in the minuses here (right now - 7 C "feels like -13", that's 20 degrees, feels like 8 for all you Fahrenheiters). =P

Finally, this afternoon, it's supposed to creep into the positive (5 C, about 40 degrees or so) but it's going to be rainy. Hmph.
 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on March 21, 2007, 12:21:00 PM
Rain! Almost 50 degrees! Threats of thunderstorms! WHEEEE!  ;D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 23, 2007, 02:57:52 PM
10 C and sunny, and supposedly going to stay that way for a bit. w00t.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on March 23, 2007, 07:59:23 PM
It's been around 50-55F all day. I've stayed home from work and I have the windows open.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 24, 2007, 06:56:28 AM
Today: Partly cloudy, with a high near 84. Calm wind becoming west around 5 mph.

Tonight: Partly cloudy, with a low around 52. West wind around 5 mph becoming calm.

Sunday: Partly cloudy, with a high near 83. Calm wind becoming north around 5 mph.

Sunday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 56. Northeast wind around 5 mph becoming calm.


On the downside, I'm pollinating. Today's count is 2,538. Also, I have to drive south today, where it's even worse right now - hotter and more pollen. And, I just found out yesterday the a/c in my car isn't working. My innards will be yellow by the end of the day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 28, 2007, 02:36:18 AM
The clouds kept playing hide and seek. Just when I thought it was going to go full-blaze, a cloud would find a way to sneak in on it and cover the sun in the slightest vapor of a shadow, and it was noticeable, trust me. I had my light gloves on and wearing my winter hat felt a lot better than roughing it.

Finally, about a couple of hours later the sun came out unabashed, albeit it was on a hill facing the afternoon trajectory.

It was wonderful.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/437296087_2c30b5cf10.jpg)!! (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/437296087_449c891522_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 29, 2007, 05:24:11 PM
Quote
ATLANTA -- Today's pollen count is 5,937.

Records kept by the Atlanta Allergy and Asthma Clinic show that's the second highest level it has recorded. The record was April 12, 1999, when the pollen count reached 6,013.

I think the record will fall in the next few days. There's not much chance of rain until Sunday. I don't remember the last time it rained - it's been weeks. You can taste the pollen. If you're outside for just a few minutes, it feels like you have talcum powder on your hands. There are little yellow clouds floating around like fog. It doesn't matter if you have allergies or not, it's so thick that it clogs up your eyeballs.

*does rain dance*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 29, 2007, 05:34:13 PM
I think our pollen must be way up too.  Been having allergy problems.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 29, 2007, 06:16:15 PM
San Jose is 391 / m³ whatever that means. The count I posted above is based on teh number of particles per square meter.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 29, 2007, 06:28:07 PM
m3 would be cubic meter.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 29, 2007, 06:42:40 PM
Well then we've got a few more particles than you. I'd be glad to share a few brazillion.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on March 30, 2007, 08:02:36 PM
Quote
Today's pollen forecast could not be shown due to browser incompatibility.

How can they not be Firefox compatible? WTF?

Quote
Predominant Pollen: Birch, Ash and Cedar/Juniper (medium-high)

Trees will be the death of me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on April 01, 2007, 08:12:23 PM
It gets so ridiculous down here, they sneak one in on us when talking about it.

"Grass, pine, oak, and spaghetti."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: dogbone on April 01, 2007, 08:27:25 PM
Trees = 657 / m³ here in good ol' KC. Not even a blip compared to down south.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on April 01, 2007, 10:35:34 PM
We've had some wild winds in good ol' KC the past couple of days though.

Wasn't me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 01, 2007, 11:00:40 PM
I heard. Where's tha 'NADOS?

And "they're" saying it's rain/snow is "likely" here tonight.

:ugottabshittinme

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on April 02, 2007, 01:24:40 PM
Tomorrow is supposed to be in the 80's... then it drops down to the 50's.
That means tomorrow is bath day for the pigs since it'll be hot upstairs.

They'll be thrilled.

 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on April 02, 2007, 02:16:47 PM
Whhheeeeeeeeeee!

It snowed two inches at my house this morning.  :o
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 02, 2007, 02:58:21 PM
See?

You're quite the barometer.

I'm hoping it's mellow enough this Friday to go camping out on the Island...:)

April's a sniveling finicky month.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on April 02, 2007, 03:10:30 PM
I try to look at it this way:

April showers bring May flowers...

so what do May flowers bring?

Pilgrims.

 ::)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on April 07, 2007, 08:30:21 PM
The cold is making me extremely grumpy.

Here it is, 8:30pm, I'm in my home alone, not planning to go out or see anyone, and I'm fully clothed because it's like 8 degrees or something. WTF?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on April 10, 2007, 10:09:08 PM
Tomorrow's forecast:

"Periods of snow and windy. Snowfall rates of an inch or more per hour. Temps nearly steady in the low to mid 30s. Winds ENE at 25 to 35 mph. 3 to 5 inches of snow expected."

What.the.fuck.  >:(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on April 11, 2007, 09:48:22 AM
I like how after a certain time of year, I dress like the temperature is seasonal even when it's not.  That was me running around like an idiot over the weekend, stubbornly refusing to put on a heavy coat and freezing.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on April 11, 2007, 11:53:26 AM
Tonight's forecast:

"Snow along with gusty winds at times. Low 31F. Winds N at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of snow 90%. 3 to 5 inches of snow expected. Total storm accumulations 8-12 inches."

A foot of snow? Middle of April? Who pissed in Mother Nature's Cheerios?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on April 11, 2007, 05:05:59 PM
Who pissed in Mother Nature's Cheerios?

 1. E. I. Du Pont de Nemours [DuPont], 2. United States Steel , 3. ConocoPhillips, 4. General Electric , 5. Eastman Kodak, 6. Exxon Mobil, 7. Ford , 8. Tyson Foods, 9. Alcoa, 10. Archer Daniels Midland (ADM), 11. Dow Chemical, 12. Eastman Chemical, 13. Boeing, 14. Nucor, 15. Georgia-Pacific, 16. AK Steel , 17. Northrop Grumman, 18. Deere & Co. [John Deere], 19. Dominion Resources, 20. General Motors, 21. Delphi, 22. Tesoro, 23. Phelps Dodge, 24. Temple-Inland , 25. Goodyear Tire & Rubber, 26. Allegheny Technologies, 27. International Paper, 28. Valero Energy, 29. Progress Energy, 30. Kerr-McGee, 31. Danaher, 32. Engelhard, 33. Constellation Energy Group, 34. Berkshire Hathaway, 35. American Electric Power, 36. Reliant Energy, 37. Teco Energy, 38. Becton, Dickinson [BD], 39. Premcor [now part of Valero], 40. Anheuser-Busch, 41. Tyco International, 42. Weyerhaeuser, 43. United Technologies (UTC), 44. Honeywell International, 45. Owens Corning, 46. Duke Energy, 47. Occidental Petroleum, 48. Public Service Enterprise Group (PSEG), 49. Cinergy [now part of Duke Energy], 50. Ashland, 51. AES, 52. Procter & Gamble, 53. Lyondell Chemical, 54. Leggett & Platt, 55. Sunoco, 56. Emerson Electric, 57. MeadWestvaco, 58. FirstEnergy, 59. Ball, 60. Textron, 61. Rowan, 62. Smurfit-Stone Container, 63. Mirant, 64. Chevron, 65. Southern, 66. ArvinMeritor, 67. Lear, 68. Visteon, 69. Monsanto, 70. 3M, 71. Xcel Energy, 72. Crown Holdings, 73. Rohm & Haas, 74. Federal-Mogul, 75. PPG Industries, 76. Great Lakes Chemical, 77. ICI American Holdings [part of ICI], 78. Corning, 79. El Paso, 80. Heartland Industrial Partners, 81. Amerada Hess, 82. Allegheny Energy, 83. Exelon, 84. Marathon Oil, 85. Goodrich, 86. Armstrong Holdings, 87. Shaw Group, 88. Praxair, 89. Pfizer, 90. Brunswick, 91. Ameren, 92. Dana, 93. Altria , 94. Hercules, 95. Stanley Works, 96. Kimberly-Clark, 97. Harley-Davidson, 98. Mohawk Industries, 99. Plum Creek Timber, 100. Illinois Tool Works

To name a few.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 11, 2007, 06:28:48 PM
They make so damn much money, though. I wish one of them would pay me ten grand to write a paper debunking global warming...:(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 16, 2007, 08:17:38 AM
Hey Defect, you snowed in?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on April 16, 2007, 09:09:02 AM
6 inches of wet, heavy snow plus whatever they got last night plusssss 20-30 MPH sustained winds.
Yep, still don't miss VT.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 16, 2007, 02:53:24 PM
I think it's because they keep playing "The Day After Tomorrow" over and over on cable.

It's got to have something to do with it.

Here:

typical crappy-yappy, hair-rendering for the newbs, but grates on the regulars enough to seek wheelchair weed treatments.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 15, 2007, 08:34:37 PM
Holy CRAP.

EIGHTY-THREE DEGREES OUTSIDE??

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on May 16, 2007, 08:23:43 AM
That's what it was here yesterday. I got a little red on my shoulders from when I took the kidlets out to play.

Then we got a boomer of a storm that brought down lines, cracked a HUGE tree over by the library, and killed our power for four hours.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 16, 2007, 02:04:49 PM
Damn. I do miss the boomers, sorry Andrrhea.

Thing is, that temperature broke a record from 1958.

We get a few sporadic days above 75 here in the Spring, but the 80s don't really kick in until July.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 16, 2007, 04:26:38 PM
Gang. This is a must read. Please take the time. You'll learn a bunch -- I know I have.

This article (http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462) is the best damn thing I've read in months.

It's got all the answers to the latest trolls and shills. It's referenced to primary sources. It's clearly written with good graphics. It's pitched at a general audience, without apparently glossing over too much. It's hyperlinked up the freaking wazoo.

I'm so happy they published this. It's so good. I could kiss Tim Berners-Lee for inventing the WWW if this was the only thing it contained. I could kiss the editorial staff of New Scientist. Heck, I'll send them money for a subscription so I don't have to read it at the library.

Again: please take the time to read through this. It's great.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on May 17, 2007, 12:01:28 PM
Don't try to bully me into reading your commie lies!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 17, 2007, 12:06:46 PM
Yeah, "global warming" is a hoaz...;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on May 18, 2007, 10:14:03 PM
Quote
Damn. I do miss the boomers, sorry Andrrhea.

No worries. It's been cold here the past few days - but not light-snow-in-the-mountains cold.
Last round of boomers wasn't very recent. Or very burly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on May 18, 2007, 10:25:56 PM
This article (http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462) is the best damn thing I've read in months.

BTW Z, I did read that. You're right it's great, and not as technically difficult to get through as the IPCC. I think I'll start referring people to that from now on.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 18, 2007, 11:40:04 PM
No shit. What a treasure trove of debunkery.

Thanks, z! :detta
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 19, 2007, 12:38:22 AM
 :D Treasure Trove of Debunkery!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on May 19, 2007, 12:25:16 PM
Quote
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Private weather forecaster Accuweather is predicting hotter-than-normal temperatures for much of the United States this summer, the company said in a press release.

Temperatures will be the hottest in the Northeast, the Great Lakes region and the Midwest. Texas is expected to be one of the few exceptions to the expected hotter-than-normal conditions.

Rainfall in the United States is expected to be normal except in the Southwest and the Rockies. The Great Lakes, Texas and Florida will receive more rain that usual, Accuweather said.

Hoo boy. Extra heat AND extra rain.
As if summers around here aren't hot 'n humid enough.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 19, 2007, 02:01:26 PM
Uh, haj, that's Accuweather. You know, Santorum's favorite company.

If they forecast that it's because they had a vision from God. Wouldn't really trust it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on May 23, 2007, 11:19:30 AM
It's 81 degrees at 11:15am. Blecch. It was actually cooler, temperature-wise, in Spain and Italy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on May 23, 2007, 11:45:44 AM
In all the thinking I did for moving over to this cube, I forgot one detail. Thankfully it doesn't bother too many people that I'm wearing sunglasses while on the computer.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on May 27, 2007, 08:29:27 AM
This smoke from the fires in Florida is getting old. My apologies to anyone living on the coast, but I'm wishing for a hurricane to put the damn thing out. It stinks. It's worst in the morning, which sucks, because that's the time I like to get outside - before it gets too hot. It looks like the smoke is going to reach all the way up into Kentucky today.

http://www.weather.gov/aq/sectors/conus.php (mouse over "1Hr Average Surface Smoke" on the chart on the left)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on May 28, 2007, 11:45:11 AM
Memorial Day weekend:

Saturday: Rain. 60 degrees.
Sunday (day of an eight-year-long traditional BBQ): Sunny. A little breezy. 73 degrees. Perfect. Never fails; it could snow the day before and they'd still get perfect weather.
Today: Overcast and muggy. Two more BBQs today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 29, 2007, 09:39:46 PM
Textbook Seattle fakeout weather. Consistent nearly every year I've been here.

Cloudy Memorial Day Weekend. Clears up Monday night.

Awesome weather ensues the day after Memorial Day. Mid 80s tomorrow...:(

Moral: ditch the weekends. They're almost always the rainy or cloudy days.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on May 29, 2007, 11:27:16 PM
Today was awesome.  Still sunset up here.  It's beautiful.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on May 30, 2007, 08:21:39 AM
Memorial Day weekend:

Two more BBQs today.

I only got one BBQ all weekend!  Bitter!  I love me some burgers off the grill.

ObOnTopic:  Summer already?  80s and 90s all week.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on May 30, 2007, 10:52:03 AM
So so happy it's actually summer. Everything green and neighborhood looks great. House getting sunshine. Ahhh.....
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 30, 2007, 09:05:22 PM
It's fecking cold. No, really. I hauled the down comforter out of storage and seriously considered running the heater.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on May 30, 2007, 10:17:49 PM
We're thinking of picking up an air conditioner.  It's WARM.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 30, 2007, 10:26:02 PM
I hope you can find one, because I'm sure everyone on the Eastside is thinking the same thing.

I'm also guessing fans are about to be sold out in a multi-county area, too.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on May 30, 2007, 11:43:19 PM
I should have bought that one I saw last week, when I was still wearing a sweater.   :-\
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on May 31, 2007, 09:47:05 AM
I should have bought that one I saw last week, when I was still wearing a sweater.   :-\

Order one from the internets?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on May 31, 2007, 01:10:02 PM
Ha!  Good idea, if I can't come across one the cheaper way.  I bet shipping on that would be a bitch.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 31, 2007, 09:42:15 PM
Oh hohoho you'll have plenty of chances to wear that sweater this summer...

But damn it's been nice.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 06, 2007, 01:48:53 PM
Fly along the path of a tornado:  http://climate.engin.umich.edu/tornadopaths/

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 06, 2007, 02:04:10 PM
Um, eek.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 06, 2007, 09:42:16 PM
Kickass. I miss tornadoes.

Did I just say that?

We don't really have tornadoes up here. Little whirlwinds now and then. One picked up some kids in a yard out in West Seattle and gave 'em a spook.

I watched one start to form when I lived in Kansas, but then we got the hell back inside right away.

Another time, my grandfather and I got caught in one driving back from the store, about a mile away from home. Damn that was scary. Probably one of the most scary moments in my life.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 06, 2007, 10:13:27 PM
don't like twistArs

much prefer hurricanes
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on June 06, 2007, 10:39:05 PM
we're 'posed to have some nadoes tomorrow.

Freaks me the f out, still. Where I grew up we had no "tornado sirens" and the like.

Actually, I studied meteorology in school, and it only helped to solidify my completely rational fear of tornadoes.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 06, 2007, 11:18:20 PM
Well, yeah, they're supposed to be scary.

Still there's something really crazy and alive about chasing them. Plus the storm cell totally messes with the serotonin. I guess I don't really miss the anxiety or the letdown.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 07, 2007, 08:27:50 AM
I wouldn't be quite as freaked out about them if my house had a basement or an interior room and I didn't have a cat.  I have these visions of him clawing me senseless as I try to cram him into the carrier before I give up and just throw him in the car to speed to Mom's basement.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 07, 2007, 09:52:14 AM
Yah. Boy Monkey is likely gonna be driving through all that tomorrow. I'm not thrilled at the prospect, but he's a big boy and all that.
On the 5th the weather got rowdy. The weather radio was pitching fits and there was a wall of pitch coming at us - so pigs got their Veggie Payoff Carrier Rides to the downstairs with me. We lucked out again and the p00p hit the case fan a few miles after the mass passed over the house. As a result of always receiving treatz during storms/nado warnings - they thoroughly enjoy bad weather.
At least someone's happy about it.


we're 'posed to have some nadoes tomorrow.

Freaks me the f out, still. Where I grew up we had no "tornado sirens" and the like.

Actually, I studied meteorology in school, and it only helped to solidify my completely rational fear of tornadoes.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on June 07, 2007, 11:55:30 AM
Yike. The Weather Channel's map with the big swatch of unpredictable red is freaking me out. Right now it's about 81 degrees and climbing, with nothing on the radar, but a 70% chance of rain and it just feels weird out. I've been through a couple tornados and highly destructive storms - sleeping the basement and such - but it was after ugly radar pictures and whatever. This seems like it's going to sneak up and surprise us whenever it feels like it. My parents, about two hours north, are already under a tornado watch.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 07, 2007, 12:11:38 PM
don't like twistArs

much prefer hurricanes

Are you nutz? Hurricanes are a hundred miles across. The worst tornadoes are maybe 1. Much easier to dodge.

I dunno, I grew up in Central Illinois and every spring tornadoes were just part and parcel. I recognize they are dangerous, but I've never been scared of them. The goal was always to see one, not hide from them.

The sirens would go off, for a minute everyone would listen for the freight train a'coming, then we'd go outside to check out the sea green sky and see if we could spot it/them. When bored, proceed back inside to see how long until the band of weather passes. If it's all night, sleep downstairs.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 07, 2007, 12:12:42 PM
Yike. The Weather Channel's map with the big swatch of unpredictable red is freaking me out. 

It's freaking me out and I'm hundreds of miles away! :o
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 07, 2007, 12:17:32 PM
Oh, almost forgot.

The closest I ever got to one was in college. A bunch of us watched as a massive funnel went right over us. It was spinning really slow and was on it's side (hadn't touched down yet) so it looked like a massive rolling pin of smoke. It was probably only 300 feet above our heads. It was pretty damn cool.

Then suddenly the temperature went from something like 90F to 50F and it started raining, so we went inside.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 07, 2007, 12:41:15 PM
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/

Quote
AN UNSEASONABLY STRONG WEATHER SYSTEM CONTINUES TO EJECT OUT OF THE
   ROCKIES AND ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS TODAY...

Ah. Okay. Y'all are in the way of  a strong ejection.

WHAT

Srsly... watch out for your cornholes. That looks like a nasty patch of weather headed your way.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 07, 2007, 12:45:47 PM
Right now it's 90 degrees and the wind is a-whipping. ~30mph. Humidity is around 40%
AKA a perfect painting day!
The primer and caulk I put on the back doors is dry already. I'll hit it with the final coat of paint and it'll be a done project before supper time.
Which is good because it's supposed to get a biat shiatty out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on June 07, 2007, 05:18:19 PM
srsly I've been watching this shit all day and literally trying to not crap my pants. Looks like we'll see most of it here in chi-town from like 9pm to midnight.

Cat's got it way worse for the time being :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 07, 2007, 05:35:05 PM
Yeah, it's a'comin allright. I reckon that's where all these winds are a blowin' from. I reckon.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on June 07, 2007, 05:36:58 PM
If any of you've wondered just what a quake feels like, that's how I'm feeling about this weather system.

Is anybody making sure BizB is indoors?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 07, 2007, 06:16:59 PM
I got buzzed by a Coast Guard rescue helicopter riding along the beach yesterday. Apparently a kiteboarder got blown off to Anacapa by the ripping sundowners. Naturally I thought of Biz, but I think he'd have been more prudent yesterday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 07, 2007, 09:19:38 PM
I'm changing into my work clothes this morning and this dude comes in and says "felt like winter out there, today."

"Yup," I say. "It's the Pacific Northwest all right."

"In JUNE?"

He really should have known better. I'm thinking he must be a recent transplant.

"Yup," I say. "It's the Pacific Northwest, all right. In JUNE."

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 08, 2007, 08:17:21 AM
Is anybody making sure BizB is indoors?

He had gusty wind yesterday that he said was no good, plus he had BBCK and one of her friends.  This afternoon may be a different story.

Yesterday we had perfection - mid-80s, no humidity, the occasional big fluffy cloud.  Today it's headed for 95+ degrees and the humidity is already 73%.   :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on June 08, 2007, 09:50:40 AM
I got buzzed by a Coast Guard rescue helicopter riding along the beach yesterday. Apparently a kiteboarder got blown off to Anacapa by the ripping sundowners. Naturally I thought of Biz, but I think he'd have been more prudent yesterday.
Really?  We usually hear about rescues of this sort.  Is there a news story about it anywhere?

Safety is such a huge concern in the kiteboarding community, we take every opportunity to learn from others' mistakes.  Typically, it's either someone who is new to the sport and has no clue what they're doing.  Or, it's someone that's been doing it so long that they think they know what they're doing and they can get away with pushing the limits.  Thankfully, I'm in the middle somewhere.  I still fear the power of the kite, but I know how to handle it fairly well.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 08, 2007, 10:31:08 AM
ph34r the k1t3!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on June 08, 2007, 11:30:12 AM
ph34r the k1t3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ssOtmbMKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn4ZLk2Iolo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv96Zromg8Q


Of course that last video is real ::)
No really... the first 2 are.  The last one; not so much.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 08, 2007, 11:33:37 AM
I got buzzed by a Coast Guard rescue helicopter riding along the beach yesterday. Apparently a kiteboarder got blown off to Anacapa by the ripping sundowners. Naturally I thought of Biz, but I think he'd have been more prudent yesterday.
Really?  We usually hear about rescues of this sort.  Is there a news story about it anywhere?
There has been no followup that I've noticed. I'm tending toward false report or hoax. Thank goodness.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 08, 2007, 02:23:20 PM
ph34r the k1t3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ssOtmbMKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn4ZLk2Iolo

Dude, who taught you to board man? No offense, but you're aweful.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 08, 2007, 02:30:28 PM
With an "e", even!

Speaking of E!, whar the heel is he?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 08, 2007, 02:34:07 PM
He was running amok in the Fark Forum yestereeeve.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on June 08, 2007, 03:09:22 PM
ph34r the k1t3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ssOtmbMKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn4ZLk2Iolo

Dude, who taught you to board man? No offense, but you're aweful.
None of those are me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on June 08, 2007, 03:16:40 PM
This week went:
bizarre chilliness to the point of needing the heat on overnight
slightly warmer
okayish warm
pretty darn warm and sunny
HOT and sunny. all of a sudden got dark. and now BOOMER.

My kid is fascinated with the thunderstorm. Takes after his parents.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 08, 2007, 03:19:12 PM
He was running amok in the Fark Forum yestereeeve.

So it's just me he doesn't like, eh?  Well, hmpf!  And his little dog, too!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on June 08, 2007, 03:48:32 PM
I can understand your disappointment, but I don't think that's any excuse to hmpf his little dog.

According to the radar, it may actually be raining at my house for the first time in about a month.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 08, 2007, 05:01:18 PM
There were supposed to be severe thunderstorms and other blah - but then it cleared and that was that.

Which is good, coz I've got a fliet mignon that needs to have a hurt put on it and that'll require the grill in the deck.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on June 08, 2007, 05:22:56 PM
The weather around here has been pretty nice.  Unfortunately I can't enjoy it because I'm stuck at work all the time.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on June 08, 2007, 05:26:05 PM
And... it did rain! Finally!  ;D

It's been over a month, maybe a month and a half. I was waiting for trees to just start spontaneously combusting.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on June 08, 2007, 08:22:14 PM
OH goddammit.

Last night I went to bed as the "severe weatheromg" was heading my way. Basically from what I could tell, there was a lot of lightning, but I heard very little thunder. and I dont' think it rained at all. No, it didn't, because my car had some pollen on it this morning.

Now that I'm in Maryland, we've got the same goddamned storm system I had last night. STOP FOLLOWING ME!!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 08, 2007, 09:47:20 PM
:rollin
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 08, 2007, 11:08:11 PM
Quote
Now that I'm in Maryland, we've got the same goddamned storm system I had last night. STOP FOLLOWING ME!!

Ha! I say that to lightning all the time and it never works.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 09, 2007, 07:37:46 AM
Now that I'm in Maryland, we've got the same goddamned storm system I had last night. STOP FOLLOWING ME!!

Y'know, you really need to be letting me know when you're coming around, Miss.  I might start taking this personally.   ;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on June 09, 2007, 10:48:04 PM
Now that I'm in Maryland, we've got the same goddamned storm system I had last night. STOP FOLLOWING ME!!

Y'know, you really need to be letting me know when you're coming around, Miss.  I might start taking this personally.   ;)

oh dag.

Sorry, lady. I'm just in town for my class reunion. (BTW I just got back and it was pretty lame. I'll probably LJ about it later, though...) My next trip here will probably be in August...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on June 11, 2007, 11:40:00 AM
I got buzzed by a Coast Guard rescue helicopter riding along the beach yesterday. Apparently a kiteboarder got blown off to Anacapa by the ripping sundowners. Naturally I thought of Biz, but I think he'd have been more prudent yesterday.
Really?  We usually hear about rescues of this sort.  Is there a news story about it anywhere?
There has been no followup that I've noticed. I'm tending toward false report or hoax. Thank goodness.

There is a third option: maybe he meant to go there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 26, 2007, 12:22:46 PM
I have to admit that I refresh this page (http://www.caiso.com/outlook/SystemStatus.html) several times a day. It's loads of fun. The green line is capacity, the grey line is forecast useage, the red line is actual usage. On really hot days when all the southland and central valley a/cs are fired up the red line gets really close to the green line and all state employees get autoemails telling them to shut off lights and fans and whatnot. If the lines cross ... blackout time baby.  :rollin: It's also fun to see the curve change shape. In the winter the little nubbin off to the right there shifts to earlier and gets relatively much bigger compared to the main peak. This is of course people coming home from work and turning on their lights and TVs.

And yes, the Y axis runs from 23 to 45 gigawatts.

(http://idiotsyncrasies.com/uploaded_images/DocBackToTheFuture-740310.jpg)
GIGAWATTS!

Yes, this is in the wrong thread. But it's logical here, too.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on June 26, 2007, 12:27:02 PM
I think it is more than logical. How is the California power grid not weather?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on June 26, 2007, 12:45:24 PM
San Onofre's big tits make it nice weather down there. Of course power controls the weather, and high voltage transmission lines are the medium upon which weather control flows.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 26, 2007, 03:23:18 PM
I use Weather Underground for my online weather site. They take their readings from Wrigley Field which is about five blocks away. Right now it says the humidity is 87%. Methinks they're off by 13.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 26, 2007, 03:31:06 PM
I've got teh Wunderground, too. I feel bad, though because I've been using a more sophisticated NOAA site as well.

Love the pictures on Wunderground, and likewise feel a bit guilty for not submitting some. It's a cool site.

BUT...the station that reports the weather in Ballard is often 10 degrees too high. I should let them know.

It's so damn nice out today. I oughta leave it out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 26, 2007, 03:57:51 PM
There's a thunderstorm that's just formed outside and is trying to party. I was okay with that until the front door that I hadn't latched properly blew open with more fanfare than was necessary.

Bricks were shat.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 26, 2007, 05:53:41 PM
We had real thunderboomers last Sunday.

Well, you'd still laugh at 'em, I'm sure.

But the bolts were wicked cool.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on June 26, 2007, 06:00:19 PM
haha!  Punk saw one or two lightning strikes and I didn't believe him!  I heard no boomers.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on June 26, 2007, 07:49:25 PM
We lost power for a couple hours. I knew that was going to happen. No problem, I took a nap and read some. The power came back on... for about 10 minutes. I knew that was going to happen, too. *groan*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 26, 2007, 08:19:01 PM
We got dick all. Just threats.

-b boomers@louisville

Fuck it. Live dangerously, I say.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on June 27, 2007, 06:46:38 PM
No one's posting here yet today?  I am teh surprised.

Major boomers here, crazy rain.  College students do not pay attention to weather reports.  A girl came into the shop today wearing a tight and rather damp shirt that said Why buy the cow?  The milk is free!.  I think there must have been a hidden camera somewhere.  Possibly in her dorm room.

I still don't get the New Sluttiness fashion thing.  I'm waiting for the shirt that say I'M WITH SLUTTY and has an arrow pointing up.  Maybe two arrows pointing up . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on June 27, 2007, 06:48:53 PM
Here it's sunny and in the high 70s.  Weather is boring.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hackess on June 27, 2007, 08:32:49 PM
Grossly humid. I want a storm for my birthday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 27, 2007, 09:42:58 PM
Bleah. Hella bad thunderstorm cropped up while we were in Ghetto Ridge. It wasn't the thunderstorm that was awful, it was the being trapped with the white trash. It rained so hard that the parking lot looked like someone had set off a bunch of smoke machines. We eventually decided it was worth the mortal risk with the lightning and tore ass across the parking lot.

I almost cleared the small lake running across the parking lot with my jump. Almost.

 :angry:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 28, 2007, 12:08:31 PM
I really miss those kinds of experiences.

A downpour usually lasts under a minute here...;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 28, 2007, 01:06:15 PM
Come out to visit. Around late noonish EDT today the trees were spinning in circles, there was lightning everywhere, and the house was shaking from the thunder.
It poured like mad as well.
We're supposed to get round two tonight.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 28, 2007, 01:09:22 PM
As long as there's someone to grab a hold of during the deluge...I'd be all right with that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: DM on June 28, 2007, 01:12:09 PM
Thunder.  Rain is coming.

I've only had to water the lawn twice this year.  I love it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on June 28, 2007, 05:25:35 PM
... A line of strong thunderstorms to move across central Kentucky
and southern Indiana through 9 PM EDT...

A line of strong thunderstorms containing dangerous
lightning... heavy rainfall and gusty winds to 40 mph will move
through southern Indiana and central Kentucky over the next couple
of hours. Rainfall rates of up to two inches per hour will be
possible with this line of storms as it moves through. In addition
to heavy rainfall... pea sized hail and wind gusts of up to 45 mph
will be possible as these storms cross through the region. [/quote]


Pffffffft. I got three bottles of Pomme lambic, bourbon, and a case of wine. The fr0t is prepared for disaster.
Bring that shit or step off the fucking plate and shut up.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on June 28, 2007, 05:45:33 PM
I've only had to water the lawn twice this year. 

Thunder. 
Rain is coming.
I've only had to water the lawn twice this year. 
I love it.


There you go!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 05, 2007, 09:24:33 AM
Monk went to fart around Lexington with Drew et al. (They don't have a basement if the 'nadoes come so FTN.) I stayed home to have some bourbon with the cicadas on the front steps and watch storms off in the distance. Orange lightning everywhere off to the S, SE, W, and N. Both flavors: cloud to cloud and cloud to ground. Not much noise because they were so far off. It didn't even rain until Monk got home around... eh... whenever that was. 11ish?

Then the  :shtf: at 12:30. It lasted for quite some time. Round two was at 2:55AM. Round three was three hours later. The first storm was energetic and partied for over an hour. The second was violent and fried all kinds of stuff nearby including the high tension wires and a doppler radar station down at Ft.Knox. The third was just there as punctuation.

I was planning to get a bunch of stuff done today, but that just isn't going to happen. I think I got a grand total of two hours of sleep last night.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 05, 2007, 01:46:11 PM
You need to set up a sleep sofa in a soundproof basement bunker.  If it's not nado-proof enough for you, you can always leave a radion or TV down there, switched on at low volume to any station that will carry the sudden blaring weather alert . . . .

When I lived in Nebraska, the first time there was a tornado alert (and that weird green underwater sky), we went down to the basement . . . and were bored out of our minds. 

The funny thing was that a student we knew, who was from the Pacific NW, heard the tornado sirens . . . left her apartment, got in her car, and drove over to our place.  Her apartment building didn't have a basement, so she went to the nearest basement she knew.  We all ended up playing Scrabble for far too long.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 05, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
I've noticed those same funky grammophone-styley tornado sirens are used here for floods, avalanches and impending volcano eruptions...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 05, 2007, 05:55:03 PM
You need to set up a sleep sofa in a soundproof basement bunker.  If it's not nado-proof enough for you, you can always leave a radion or TV down there, switched on at low volume to any station that will carry the sudden blaring weather alert . . . .

When I lived in Nebraska, the first time there was a tornado alert (and that weird green underwater sky), we went down to the basement . . . and were bored out of our minds. 

The funny thing was that a student we knew, who was from the Pacific NW, heard the tornado sirens . . . left her apartment, got in her car, and drove over to our place.  Her apartment building didn't have a basement, so she went to the nearest basement she knew.  We all ended up playing Scrabble for far too long.

Heh. We actually bought one of those dippy little weather radios. It can be configured to go off for certain counties. (We don't need to hear the weather alerts for, say, Ashland or other points a hundred miles off to the East.) It works really well. Almost too well. The pigs associate the alert tones with impending treats. Everything's packed up for the any-day-now-no-really move, so yeah... it's likely to get boring down there. I've got books and chairs and a couple of coffee tables to hold drinks. In the next place we'll set up a TV or sommat.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on July 05, 2007, 09:23:29 PM
I've been scared shitless of thunderstorms ever since I moved out here. There was  a tornado in my hometown when I was a kid more than once (which is weird, because it's Maryland) and then speaking of Maryland tornadoes, one hit College Park while I was there on Sept 24, 2001 (good fucking timing) and killed two students-sisters. It also ripped the side off of one of the brick buildings in the apartment complex I lived in. I never grew up with basements - did I mention I'm from the tidewater area of Maryland? No basements in the swamps, kthx.

Anyway, now that I'm in the Midwest, any talk of "severe thunderstorms" is OMFG TORNADO OF DOOM AND DEATH IS UPON US. I've only cowered in my bathroom with the cat once or twice, and only heard the tornado sirens once in the 3 years I've lived here now. I should really get a weather radio.

I remember the nutters I went to school with at UMD in the meteorology program who were all about chasing tornadoes. One guy was from Connecticut. Loony.

(that was the most random combination of thoughts/sentences I've spewed here in a long time, wow.) Cheese sandwiches are okay sometimes.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on July 05, 2007, 09:28:58 PM
Peanut butter and jelly. That's what I want in my belly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 05, 2007, 10:35:37 PM
The closest I've been to a tornado is roughly two blocks. That was during the July 14th mini-outbreak. We spent half the night in the basement of the rental house watching the fun on the TV. Power only fizzled towards the end. It took a big ole pine tree in someone's yard and twisted it like a spent toothpick. Beneath that was a dog house that looked like it had been pulled inside out. Like when you pull a sock inside out. The good news is the dog house hadn't had an occupant in it for quite some time. It's disturbing what those things do - and that one never made contact with the ground.
In spite of all that, tornadoes aren't what I fear. What really makes me fill my pants are downbursts. They're alarmingly common in VT. World's shortest Alice Cooper Fan's parents, Weeze, and my 'rents all have downburst damage on their property. There's no warning at all for those things - unlike a tornado where you tend to get some advanced notice in one way or another. A downburst flattened the ravine full of trees behind Chez Kancho and dramalarity ensued. (I considered MS Painting it back in the days of BC MS Painting) The poor dog just about exploded trying to herd me and the pigs at the same time. It was a tie as to who was shrieking louder - me or Murray. Ick. Bad Times. Mr. Kancho was in a state because his television program had been interrupted. Dumbass. So yeah, if the wind beats hard enough on the house I get all sweaty and barfy from the adrenaline poisoning.

This house is mostly windows and with an open floor plan - we'll get our asses carved up like Christmas hams if there is ever a decent downburst nearby. This is why I drink and rave:

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grb/events/070477.php

Yeah. That.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 05, 2007, 10:36:08 PM
Jesus. Overshare much?

*pipes down*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 05, 2007, 10:42:14 PM
Because I can't shut up: http://www.crh.noaa.gov/crnews/display_story.php?wfo=lmk&storyid=9160&source=0
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 05, 2007, 11:04:55 PM
"Microbursts."

God, weather can be fucking freaky.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on July 05, 2007, 11:16:15 PM
A girl I work with (the one with whom I went to this (http://blogs.trb.com/news/weather/weblog/wgnweather/2006/04/_this_year_our_seminar.html) last year) tells me about a microburst from around these parts a few years back when she was teaching. She was waiting outside with some kids for the bus (special ed kids get the special bus and the teacher to wait with them) after school and had to herd them all up and go back inside. She said the damage was impressive. However, it seems, instead of crapping herself like I would've, she's become interested in severe weather. Weirdo.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 05, 2007, 11:20:53 PM
I can relate to that. I've always wanted to go on a tornado-chasing trip  back in Kansas some June.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 06, 2007, 06:49:33 AM
Quote
What really makes me fill my pants are downbursts.

Yeah, that is some weird shit.  Tunguskatastic.  Microbursts are bad, but I'm a-waiting for the macrobursts.  Fluctuations in a fluidic medium always occasionally self-reinforce right off the scale, like those monster 'rogue waves' that cruise ships have to watch out for.  If Walla Walla ever suddenly gets sucked right off the planet, we'll know what happened.

I never actually saw any of that while I was in VT, although I did see some phenomenal weather, including the sharpest weather front I've ever seen.  Sunny, but with a big raft of blue-black clouds moving in over the mountains, with a hella-fast sharp vertical line all the way to the ground at one edge.  The ex and I were outside the school when we saw it, maybe 150m from the doors.  She was like, "Oooh . . . bad weather.  We should go inside."

It was too warm to zip up your jacket, and we started walking fast to the school.  Ended up running and covered with snow, but we got in before it started hailing.

I saw lots of power-mad thunderstorms roll in when I was in Nebraska, but they at least had softer edges than that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 06, 2007, 10:44:45 AM
I remember when I was a kid if I saw the words "Isolated Severe Thunderstorms" and on a weather map on TV I knew we were going to get it GOOD. They'd usually say it was about a 20% chance, but every time we'd get the slap-down.

Yeah, I'm sure you'd either love or hate the weather here: love it because it's just one big BOOM and a bunch of drizzle, or you'd hate it because said drizzle (or persistent overcastness) tends to camp out for a few days at a time, particularly on a weekend, yes during the summer.

We get the serious winds out here in the wintertime, though, so if you lived somewhere with trees, you'd be sweating bullets, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 10, 2007, 07:30:53 PM
SHORT TERM FORECASTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
413 PM PDT TUE JUL 10 2007

CAZ035-036-038-039-052-110215-
CUYAMA VALLEY-SANTA BARBARA COUNTY CENTRAL COAST-
SANTA BARBARA COUNTY MOUNTAINS-SANTA BARBARA COUNTY SOUTH COAST-
SANTA YNEZ VALLEY-
413 PM PDT TUE JUL 10 2007

.NOW..
.SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL AFFECT THE COUNTY
THROUGH 8 PM PDT. AT 400 PM...DOPPLER RADAR SHOWED THE STRONGEST
STORMS ACROSS THE EASTERN SIERRA MADRE MOUNTAINS...WITH ANOTHER LINE
OF SHOWERS ACROSS THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL APPROACHING THE SOUTH
COAST. SHOWERS AND STORMS WERE MOVING TO THE NORTH NORTHWEST AT 40
MPH. ANY THUNDERSTORM THIS EVENING COULD PRODUCE DRY LIGHTNING AND
WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 40 MPH.


Um.

What?!?!?!

I'm not sure of this but I think every other recorded t-storm on the south coast in history has been in, like, October. This is so amazingly wrong. Oh, and, this (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/lox/Assets/pns_07_01_07.pdf).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 10, 2007, 07:46:18 PM
Sorry about that. We were discussing a CA trip and make the mistake of talking about it outside.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on July 10, 2007, 08:37:03 PM
Holy Crap! The sky outside is RED!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on July 10, 2007, 09:34:05 PM
Yeah, they gave a forecast for potential T-Storms here too.  Must be the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on July 10, 2007, 10:55:15 PM
All that plus the first snow in Buenos Aires in 89 years today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 10, 2007, 11:03:43 PM
Nuthin'.

Liars.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 10, 2007, 11:12:37 PM
Here's some fun - we were supposed to get OHNOES level boomers.
Failed to happen.

The storms that passed through N.E. apparently went ballistic and caused lightning damage at the 'rents house.
Again
For the second time this year a $30k pump has been obliterated. (That `3 acre bass pond is pretty pimpin. The bass are accustomed to a certain style of living. Like watery p1g5, really.) Dad said he was going to start drinking before contacting the insurance company because they will likely not be happy. They also lost all but two phones, and all of the DSL filters.

It's kind of funny in that they are just NOW getting around to having a lightning arrestor installed for the house and the lines running down to the pond. WTF? The first time wasn't enough???!

I'm thinking we need to have a BC party at the 'rents place. They have to be seen to be believed. Insane. Both of them.  :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 10, 2007, 11:14:10 PM
I was adopted. Yes. That's the ticket.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 10, 2007, 11:22:47 PM
Also - I think that repair cost is a buncha beans. (I told Mike to beware a road trip.) Those Benedini cocksuckers need a talking to. Artesian wells in VT are about $1k per foot of depth - and that includes labor, boring, and wellhead insertion (wiring and rigging). That would put the repair estimate at twice the cost...  :hmm: Yeah... no.

Back to the weather. It's 80 degrees and bogus outside.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 11, 2007, 08:59:44 AM
75 degrees.
87% humidity

 :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on July 11, 2007, 10:23:09 AM
75 degrees.
87% humidity

 :thumbsdn:
That actually sounds pretty nice right about now.

We've been getting comparable humidity, but with about ten more degrees.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 11, 2007, 11:19:29 AM
It's about 9:30 right now and it's 78 degrees with 48% humidity.

Yeah, it seems hot even to me...thank Bob this agency has air conditioning...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on July 11, 2007, 11:26:37 AM
It was 80 degrees at my house when I left for work at 8:30 a.m. Wouldn't be surprised if it hits 100 up there. :trance:

The poor cats just can't take this weather. The only time they move during the day is to relocate themselves in front of the fan in the coolest room. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on July 11, 2007, 12:01:12 PM
71 degrees, 34% humidity. Awesome.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on July 11, 2007, 12:03:26 PM
Oy it's so humid here too.  No thunderstorms yesterday but a little rain.  In fricken July.  WTF?  The next heat wave is supposed to start this afternoon.  If I wanted 100+ degree weather I would have stayed in Davis.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on July 11, 2007, 12:10:04 PM
The next one of you Californians that bitches about rain in July is getting a beating.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on July 11, 2007, 12:11:32 PM
They have flash flooding in Sacramento.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 11, 2007, 12:14:06 PM
I could go for an anomalous T-storm for sure, with phone-system-zapping superbolts, but we're definitely locked into a high pressure system for the next week.

This weekend will be perfect, though. 70s, especially up on the Island...:cool
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on July 11, 2007, 12:14:57 PM
They have flash flooding in Sacramento.

...and?

Flooding happens pretty much every year somewhere around here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on July 11, 2007, 12:16:52 PM
Well why don't you write a song about it then.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on July 11, 2007, 12:20:43 PM
If only the floods would actually wash Sacramento off the face of the earth.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on July 11, 2007, 12:25:02 PM
Well why don't you write a song about it then.

Ooo, good idea!


*busts out slide*

Rainin' in July,
That much is true...
If your house is all wet,
It sucks to be yooooooooouuuuuuuuu!


Thank you, thankyouverymuch.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 11, 2007, 12:31:26 PM
Oh lawdy mama
Stuck again
in that Allegheny raaaainnnn
washin' through the canyon
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on July 11, 2007, 12:47:25 PM
They have flash flooding in Sacramento.

...and?

Flooding happens pretty much every year somewhere around here.

And yet all of my plants are dying from lack o' water.

*shakes fist at meteorological paradox*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on July 11, 2007, 12:49:19 PM
According to wunderground it's 87.2 degrees in Issaquah.  Me and Punk are in nice, air conditioned offices while our kid and pets are stuck in hot houses.  At least the kids will run through the sprinkler at day care today.

OMG 96.6 in Bremerton.   :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on July 11, 2007, 03:37:35 PM
They have flash flooding in Sacramento.

...and?

Flooding happens pretty much every year somewhere around here.

And yet all of my plants are dying from lack o' water.

*shakes fist at meteorological paradox*

Yeah, that's weird. I thought you guys were getting even more rain than we are.

Btw, two ribbons of boomers are making their way towards us.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on July 11, 2007, 03:39:13 PM
Actually, judging by the lightning strikes... they're here.

/Poltergeist
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 11, 2007, 05:54:11 PM
NINETY-FOUR FRICKIN' DEGREES OUTSIDE. :trance:

Well, I never.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 11, 2007, 07:03:00 PM
NINETY-FOUR FRICKIN' DEGREES OUTSIDE. :trance:

Well, I never.

Looks like you just did, peanut.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on July 11, 2007, 07:21:41 PM
NINETY-FOUR FRICKIN' DEGREES OUTSIDE. :trance:

Well, I never.

Pansy.  You have it easy.

(http://assortednutz.com/liz/hot.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 11, 2007, 07:23:48 PM
Holy merde. I hope you have A/C at home. Otherwise... maybe go on a long family night out someplace that has A/C.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on July 11, 2007, 07:25:07 PM
We have a portable one that makes the living room... livable.  The bedroom is still hot as hell but we can deal.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 11, 2007, 07:26:18 PM
Holy merde. I hope you have A/C at home. Otherwise... maybe go on a long family night out someplace that has A/C.

Heh. Just wait for the sun to go down. At 28% humidity, the temperature will drop like Britney's panties.   
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on July 11, 2007, 07:27:20 PM
Yeah, outside.  Our apartment only has windows on one side.  We don't get a cross breeze.  Even with 3 fans blowing it's pretty stagnant.  We can always sleep out on the balcony, I guess.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 11, 2007, 07:39:48 PM
Good point.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on July 11, 2007, 10:31:48 PM
Beautiful here today. About 70 F or so, light breeze. I actually ventured outside for the first time in a week and a half, but that's not the weather's fault.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 12, 2007, 12:41:05 AM
I was wondering how hot Issaquah was going to get.

Issaquah=Place of the Evil Spirits

It was wonderful after the sun went down tonight. Yes, low humidity, I feel blessed.

BTW the spell-check on my Firefox suggests "Seaquake." Egads.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on July 12, 2007, 01:12:18 AM
Oh, the a/c couldn't handle 100 degrees.  It was still sweltering in the apartment.  I got lucky and didn't go home until 10:30.  :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 12, 2007, 05:07:59 AM
I suppose this is obvious, but . . . if you have, say, three windows but they're all in the same wall, put fans in all of them, and try either having two fans blowing out and one blowing in or vice versa.  Ideally, these are the kind of window fans that are fairly well sealed in when the windows are closed on them.  That makes the ones set to exhaust, especially, work a lot better. 


Andrrhea, Barre, VT, was on CNN and TWC this morning.  They got about 8" of rain, and various roads (and trailer parks) are washed out.  The TWC anchor claimed you could no longer get from Barre to Montpelier.  How New England (and REM) is that?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on July 12, 2007, 07:55:38 AM
They have flash flooding in Sacramento.

...and?

Flooding happens pretty much every year somewhere around here.

And yet all of my plants are dying from lack o' water.

*shakes fist at meteorological paradox*

Yeah, that's weird. I thought you guys were getting even more rain than we are.

We got a lovely, refreshing downpour last night.  Right after I watered the new geranium.   :angry:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 12, 2007, 09:57:52 AM
I suppose this is obvious, but . . . if you have, say, three windows but they're all in the same wall, put fans in all of them, and try either having two fans blowing out and one blowing in or vice versa.  Ideally, these are the kind of window fans that are fairly well sealed in when the windows are closed on them.  That makes the ones set to exhaust, especially, work a lot better. 

That goes for the whole Puget Sound region.

Fans, folks. Buy them in March or April.

If you <I>really</I> feel the need to invest in an expensive energy-guzzling air conditioner to put up with ONE week of 80+ temps, you're shameless comfort hounds.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 12, 2007, 10:10:32 AM
I suppose this is obvious, but . . . if you have, say, three windows but they're all in the same wall, put fans in all of them, and try either having two fans blowing out and one blowing in or vice versa.  Ideally, these are the kind of window fans that are fairly well sealed in when the windows are closed on them.  That makes the ones set to exhaust, especially, work a lot better. 


Andrrhea, Barre, VT, was on CNN and TWC this morning.  They got about 8" of rain, and various roads (and trailer parks) are washed out.  The TWC anchor claimed you could no longer get from Barre to Montpelier.  How New England (and REM) is that?


I LOL'd. And I mean, come ON already, it was just a matter of time before 302 got taken out. A low-set road running along a river. Yeah. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 12, 2007, 10:13:21 AM
Couldn't have happened to a nicer city: http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=BT&Date=20070712&Category=FEATURES08&ArtNo=712001&Ref=PH

LOL, LOL, LOL your boat.....
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on July 12, 2007, 10:32:05 AM
If you <I>really</I> feel the need to invest in an expensive energy-guzzling air conditioner to put up with ONE week of 80+ temps, you're shameless comfort hounds.

BWAH!  whid, you've never seen my place.  The sun shines directly in the windows from early afternoon until sundown.  That's a disadvantage of our great view.  The temperature in our apt is always 10 degrees higher than outside.  Anyway, the thing is only on from 7pm-9pm or so.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on July 12, 2007, 11:58:12 AM
If you <I>really</I> feel the need to invest in an expensive energy-guzzling air conditioner to put up with ONE week of 80+ temps, you're shameless comfort hounds.

*hand in air*

It's not common here to have A/C since it's winter seven months of the year and hot/humid for maybe 2 months (used to be we'd only get one or two weeks of heat wave but, thank you, global warming). Still, dammit, I am a shameless comfort hound, because if the house/apartment you're in is not situated well, it gets really narsty hotboxy melty; most places around here are built to conserve heat after all. We had one flat years ago that was perfect, didn't get a lot of sun, had a great cross breeze, all we needed were ceiling fans and I loved that; I've lived in places since that were easily 20 degrees more (F) in the house than outside, which is ridiculous. I don't even like A/C much but I hate being overheated and swelteringly sticky more. =)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 12, 2007, 12:39:27 PM
Yay! Weather related:
Dad said the lightning only blew up the control center for the well. That's considerably cheaper to replace. The last time the thing got fried by lighting, one of the legs on the board got split in half and the entire works had to be unearthed and replaced. It was fused and from the reports looked like "a giant goddamn Q-Tip." So 5 DSL filters, 2 phones, and a surge protector are the only other casualties.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 12, 2007, 12:42:25 PM
Crikey. That's danged impressive.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on July 12, 2007, 02:54:13 PM
Yesterday it got up to 102 degrees at my house, and that was on the thermometer on the north side of the house that's in shade all day. Unbelievable.

We put ice in the cat's water dish. They were absolutely miserable. :(

Today, 30 degrees cooler and a slight breeze.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 12, 2007, 03:16:46 PM

BWAH!  whid, you've never seen my place. 

Meh. I was mostly talking about Seattle proper. Inland is another story...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on July 12, 2007, 03:49:45 PM
Barre...

Isn't that where that asshole Mersault is from?

:bolt:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on July 12, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
 :lol:

We have the same problem as you, feff, with the sun blasting the front (south) of the house for most of the day. No shade whatsoever. And we still have the single pane windows that were installed in this house when it was built 45 years ago.

Days like yesterday I wish the 50 ft evergreens in my backyard could move up front.

I invested in thermal curtains a couple of months ago and the house is actually several degrees cooler this summer than last. They'll also help keep the heat in during the winter.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 12, 2007, 04:34:44 PM
Barre...

Isn't that where that asshole Mersault is from?

:bolt:

I am going to have to cut a bitch for that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 16, 2007, 03:19:15 PM
Meh. No sunset Saturday.

All that hard work, too...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 16, 2007, 03:33:20 PM
Tch.  The sun does most of the work.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 16, 2007, 05:57:44 PM
No, I mean all the hard work I did, riding for miles, setting up camp, agonizing up ginormous hills, fighting the tourists who kept invading my beach enclave...

Oh well. Swing and a miss.

It was my first time camping at this place, even though I've gone there countless times over the years...

This is what it might have looked like instead of a purplish-white bank of clouds and a green sea:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/467419647_30e4bd5352.jpg)

Oh well, can't have everything. The temperatures were nice. I still got some sun...



Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on July 24, 2007, 03:24:31 PM
This could go in "Things I didn't want to see today" for every day in the forecast.
(http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/forecast/images/hot.jpg)
At least home is cooler than work.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: gomichild on July 25, 2007, 07:01:37 AM
Looks like the late rainy season is actually over - hasn't poured for 2 days now. Thought summer was here yesterday - but it's cooled down a lot today.

Looks like we are in for a mild summer this year.

If that's sounds wonderful and envy-worthy let me add that yesterday we had another earthquake and will probably have another typhoon soon.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on July 25, 2007, 10:01:32 AM
We've been in a holding pattern of 80's, lower humidity, and sunny days. Nights have been in upper 60's lower 70's. It's been awesome. They keep calling for boomers each night, and each night they keep not happening.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 25, 2007, 10:22:56 AM
Heh. The rainy season's never over here.

Still, it's nice to have a couple sky-blue days with temps in the mid-70s...

*knocks on mahogany for the weekend*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 25, 2007, 01:54:13 PM
Quote
We've been in a holding pattern of 80's, lower humidity, and sunny days. Nights have been in upper 60's lower 70's. It's been awesome. They keep calling for boomers each night, and each night they keep not happening.

Much the same here, except typically 75-85 by day and 50-60 by night.  Oh, these cruel northern summers!  Well, we do get about two to three weeks' worth of way-too-hot scattered in there, just like the winter has the same number of way-too-cold days.

It's been dry here, which is good . . . as I have not had time to mow the lawn in weeks now.  The grass is still short, not yet dead, and only a thin hazy low fog of some kinda xeriphilous weed is sticking up much.  Whatever it is, it doesn't set off my allergies or the town's Mow That Noxious Weed patrol. 

Good, good . . . .

[rubs hands in subdued but maniacal fashion]
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 07, 2007, 08:38:21 AM
Today: Mostly sunny and hot, with a high near 99. Heat index values as high as 109. Southwest wind between 7 and 14 mph.

 :shock: :cry:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 07, 2007, 01:11:10 PM
Heh. The rainy season's never over here.

Still, it's nice to have a couple sky-blue days with temps in the mid-70s...

*knocks on mahogany for the weekend*

I could pretty much quote that post ad infinauseam...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: dogbone on August 07, 2007, 02:01:30 PM
I just walked outside and burst into flames.

I shit you not.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 07, 2007, 02:46:57 PM
It was broiling all last week. 90s edging up to 100 (F because I was in the US for this!). I was stuck in an upstairs flat with no a/c, DIE. Saturday when we left the weather broke and it's been so pleasant since. Today, the rain: it's been raining since this AM, but it's not too depressing: gray and warm.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 07, 2007, 02:49:47 PM
I just walked outside and burst into flames.

I shit you not.


I haven't dared. P1g5 are passed out under the AC vents.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 07, 2007, 03:08:51 PM
It's really nice here. Of course, ten miles away we have a Wilderness Theatre re-enactment of the firebombing of Dresden going on, but for the moment it's pleasant, low RH, temps in the seventies.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on August 07, 2007, 03:29:57 PM
Sometimes wind direction is everything.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 07, 2007, 03:30:56 PM
88 F, heat index of 95.  They're claiming the humidity is only 60%, but the humidity here in my room is 75%.

Last night, it was so damned humid in my room (windows open, fans blowing cooler air in) that around 2 AM I noticed that there was condensation on my TV screen.  (The TV was off, at least.)  That's too humid.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 07, 2007, 03:32:33 PM
Stop sweating!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 07, 2007, 04:33:36 PM
I don't miss that crap a bit. Gimme that heavy marine air action anyday. I remember I used to sleep in front of the box fan I kept in the window to blow "cooler" air in.

But I did love it when a sudden squall would suddenly cool everything off before all hell broke loose.

Today, it's just having to wipe the fine mist off my glasses every half mile. And I can still go out in a t-shirt and shorts.

Well, maybe a fleece vest.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 07, 2007, 04:48:03 PM
*vaporizes*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on August 07, 2007, 10:30:20 PM
Wow, last night's electrical storm was outstanding.

I didn't know whether to be scared because the flashes of lightning were SO FREAKING BRIGHT but the thunder followed far behind so it wasn't striking all that close. Still, it woke me up at 3am and kept me up for an hour. That hasn't happened since my neighbors stopped having middle-of-the-night sex.

Tonight I had a band concert. Outside. I've never wished for thunderstorms as much as I did all day today so they'd have to cancel it. It didn't; they didn't. It was narsty humid out.

One of my friends is down in Luhavul this week working outside on some sort of civil engineering type thing (bridges maybe) and yesterday had an ambulance called for him for heat exhaustion :/
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 08, 2007, 12:16:45 AM
Yikes. that's not good. Heat exhaustion/stroke is not something to trifle with.

Tomorrow is supposed to be the worst of it: 

Wednesday: Mostly sunny and hot, with a high near 101. Heat index values as high as 108. Calm wind becoming west between 7 and 10 mph.

FTN
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 08, 2007, 05:00:42 PM
I heard Baltimore is going to have a heat index of 107.

:tal:?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 08, 2007, 05:34:25 PM
Thunderstorm just formed out of nowhere over the house.
It's a pretty nasty one at that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 08, 2007, 05:38:05 PM
It's 106 here right now, I'm not sure how high it got today. Supposed to be worse tomorrow - 110 or so. It was like 85 degrees before the sun came up this morning. People are sizzlin' and poppin like bacon frying.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 08, 2007, 06:11:34 PM
And I haven't seen a hummingbird all day.

 :hmm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 08, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
I wish I could help, but I think the Seattle Filter hasn't even made it to the beta stage yet and it only vibrates at a constant bitrate under 200, thus affecting a much more localized geographical environs...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on August 09, 2007, 03:37:10 PM
I'm really looking forward for this weather to break so we can get back to awesome nice days. There's too much heat and humidity for my liking this week.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on August 09, 2007, 03:44:31 PM
I heard Baltimore is going to have a heat index of 107.

:tal:?

Wasn't me!  I was inside all day, freezing, on your tax dollars.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on August 09, 2007, 03:47:19 PM
I think it was yesterday...I walked out of work and the wind was blowing - hot.  The humidity must've been relatively low - it felt weird but not unpleasant.

This morning's breeze felt almost chilly in contrast.  Then the rains came.  I hope that will convince the ants to move back outside.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 16, 2007, 09:03:59 AM
AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO WARM INTO THE 96 TO 101
DEGREE RANGE THIS AFTERNOON. THESE TEMPERATURES COMBINED WITH
INCREASING RELATIVE HUMIDITY WILL PRODUCE HEAT INDEX READINGS IN
THE 100 TO 110 DEGREE RANGE.

Oh goody.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 16, 2007, 11:09:29 AM
Isn't that the same forecast they've been using for the past couple of weeks?

I'm starting to get used to it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 16, 2007, 06:47:00 PM
What country do you people live in?

YOU people...

70 and partly cloudy.

:bolt:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 16, 2007, 06:54:06 PM
We're lucky if it gets down to 70 for a low in the weee hours.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 16, 2007, 06:57:49 PM
Naw, like I've said repeatedly, ad nauseum is that the only frustration up here is that all the good weather happens while I'm trapped here at work.

Well, for me, anyway. There's a 20-month trial period where people make it or move back East screaming.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 16, 2007, 07:39:24 PM
We had hellacious thunderstorms, complete with evac, and it went from 110's to a nice 74.

- 50 points from Ravenclaw for bad form with the thunderstorms taking out our internet and Fark's ISP for about an hour or so.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 17, 2007, 12:22:24 AM
Sorry about the hardware, but that's effing awesome... :thud: :thud: :thud:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 17, 2007, 12:48:49 AM
Goddammit. 110 with relative humidity.
It was 103 actual at the worst.

Stiupit keybroad
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 17, 2007, 09:25:50 PM
Low 80s today.

Down to mid-40s tonight.

I don't have room to bring in my tropical plants!  They better survive.  I was not expecting this in mid-August. 

It also takes twenty minutes to close either of my windows (it's . . . complicated), so an extra blanket for me tonight.  But the cold should make the damned bats shut up tonight!  All night last night they were trying to figure out how to crawl in through the (widely spaced) grate of my window fan.  My cat was amused, but I was not.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 17, 2007, 10:28:04 PM
Those 40-degrees temperature mood swings are indeed freaky. Usually we get a 90-50 action. 40 sounds like November or something...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 22, 2007, 12:02:10 AM
Yesterday and today mostly grey, grey, grey with a little rain but mostly just grey and gloomyish and rather chilly. If I hear anyone else say "boy, feels like fall already!" I'm gonna cry. IT'S STILL AUGUST!!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 22, 2007, 01:22:07 AM
D4d told me it was 38 degrees in the AM the other day.
 :angry:
It's about 80 with 20000% humidity right now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 22, 2007, 05:45:41 AM
Yeah, I could use a break from this routine. I hate stagnant weather systems. At least you guys are getting the occasional storm up there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 22, 2007, 10:50:24 AM
Yesterday and today mostly grey, grey, grey with a little rain but mostly just grey and gloomyish and rather chilly. If I hear anyone else say "boy, feels like fall already!" I'm gonna cry. IT'S STILL AUGUST!!

They're already trying to pull that shit up here.

"There's a hint of FALL in the air...." :spank: :banghead: :tmi: :skull: :troutslap: :n00b: :chair:

Fall doesn't happen until the leaves start changing. Which will be next month, because shit gets colder and there's less light. :geek:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 22, 2007, 12:00:10 PM
I KNOW! What's with this rush rush rush to get on to the next season? PPL ENJOY WHAT YOU GOTZ NOW PLZ! There's no rush on winter! We're gonna have it for seven months!

The dollar store was busy putting out Halloween stuff when I went in looking for sandbox toys and sidewalk chalk last week. =(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 22, 2007, 12:47:04 PM
Saw my breath every morning this past week.

It was the complete awesome.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 22, 2007, 12:55:29 PM
I take it you were not in your default environs?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 22, 2007, 03:53:19 PM
Or he'd been eatin' some mighty strong onions.


The cool weather broke this morning with a pretty good thunderstorm, but mostly just the thickest cloud cover I can remember seeing.  Eight AM, and it was dark enough out that you really needed the headlights, which is not normal for August in this hemisphere.  If I'd still been in Nebraska, I would've been worried, but here I just had to deal with idiot commuters.

Then the sun came out . . . and the temp shot up to almost 90 F again.  Feh!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 22, 2007, 04:06:33 PM
It's 96 and a billion percent humidity.

Bleaugh.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 22, 2007, 06:24:45 PM
God damn you people and your thunderstorms!!!! :cry:

OK, I think it's been a long week, now. :thud:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 22, 2007, 06:28:35 PM
I take it you were not in your default environs?

Here (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Olema,+CA,+USA&ie=UTF8&z=12&iwloc=addr&om=1).

And ranging 25-50 miles north and west of there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on August 22, 2007, 06:37:18 PM
Groovy.

I hiked up Mt. Tamalpais once or twice as a kid.

See any nannerslugs yet?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 22, 2007, 07:07:47 PM
It's very dry now, teh sl0gs are hiding. But we didn't do redwoods this time. Lots of beach and pasture. We got up close and personal with the cows, and damn near went swimming a couple times.

And we had just about every possible weather for this location, save snow and serious rain. That's the bitchin' thing about Point Reyes: ok, so it sucks on Drake's Beach, so drive to South Beach (on the north side, naturally) and it's perfect. That is, if the 50 knot winds at the first place don't rip the door plumb off your van if you open it carelessly. Not that I'd know anything about that, no, no. More later when I have some pictures.

All that said, never, ever, ever go to Dillon Beach. Two hours in the campground there and you'll have a strong urge to run off to join al-Qaeda. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 23, 2007, 01:54:46 PM
I drove on Hwy 1 on my way out here originally...don't really remember much about it.

I'd love to go to Point Reyes, though. The pics I've seen remind me of my Beloved Island on steroids...

I would totally dig bike camping there... :want:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on August 23, 2007, 08:33:34 PM
Holy effing crap.

Today was the first time since I've been at my job that we've actually evacuated to the tornado shelter. All of a sudden I'm looking at the radar noticing some red spots when I hear people kinda excited on the other side of my cube wall by the stairwell. They apparently made an announcement on the crappy PA that you can't hear from my area. Wonderful.

*That* lasted about 15 minutes, maybe, of being down in the bowels of the basement in what was actually a bomb shelter, given our proximity to a now shut-down naval air station. The power flickered only enough to reboot our compies. We came back up and I decided to wait this storm out, which took for fucking ever. Didn't end up leaving until about 3 hrs later (that's 2 hrs later than I normally would've left at work) and then it took me over an hour to get home b/c of flooding and road closings and down trees. And then I get home to an apartment parking lot that is flooded. Wonderful. I, for some stupid reason, didn't want to drive through 4 inches of water, so I stopped in the parking lot, much to the dismay of the fucking retard behind me. I turned around and didn't drown thanks to NOAA's catchy campaign.

I don't think there was ever a tornado in Glenview, but wind damage a'plenty. Down near where nex is, they had some 74 mph wind gusts. A hurricane. In Chicago. Dag.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on August 23, 2007, 08:34:45 PM
It was in the 90s with high humidity in Colorado.  We had t-storms in the Denver area a couple of the days and I was caught in a huge hailstorm while bringing Sandy some sustenance from Sonic.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 24, 2007, 05:32:31 AM
Yesterday morning I got a glass of water when I first woke up. The water out of the faucet was so warm I had to stick a thermometer in it to see just how warm it was - 85 degrees  :shock:

On the bright side, we finally got a little storm last night, so that's the first rain I've seen here at the house in weeks (it's rained a few times at work, which is only 10 miles away). And I just heard on the tv a few minutes ago that next week the temps are supposed to fall back down into the normal range. Hallehfuckinglujah.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on August 24, 2007, 01:53:16 PM
Want some of our rain? I'll gladly send some down for you.

They've measured 3.02" of rainfall at O'Hare for the past 2 days, and we're due to get another 0.5-1" today. Lots of rivers are flooded, one is 5' above its normal 5' flood stage.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 24, 2007, 03:46:58 PM
Tornado siren is going off.  It's raining muthafuggin' buckets out there, raining so loud you can hardly hear the siren.

Stuck here at work, but at least we have a basement if it actually twists out there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on August 24, 2007, 04:11:23 PM
It's around 80 and sunny here with low humidity and no chance of rain.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on August 24, 2007, 04:13:55 PM
Holy effing crap.
...

I don't think there was ever a tornado in Glenview, but wind damage a'plenty. Down near where nex is, they had some 74 mph wind gusts. A hurricane. In Chicago. Dag.

That was some crazy shit. I didn't realize it was so bad until right after it passed and I went outside to go for what's normally a 45min drive over to a friend's place out west. It took an hour and 15. Trees and branches down everywhere. Not too much flooding, but most all the side streets were blocked to some extent because of limbs.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 24, 2007, 04:26:11 PM
Want some of our rain? I'll gladly send some down for you.

Yes please! I live on high ground, so flooding isn't a problem. I heard some areas of the Midwest were supposed to get like 15" over the weekend. I think that's about what we've had all year.

I saw pictures on the news this morning of Chicago - people on the streets downtown looked like they could barely walk because the wind was blowing so bad.

I had to go work on our sign in front of our building today at work. There's no shade out there, and it was the hottest part of the day. I was only out there about 30 minutes, but I was covered with sweat by the time I came back inside. My shirt was soaked. I went in the bathroom to freshen up and looked in the mirror, and my eyes were like blood red. I thought "OMG, I'm having a heat stroke or something". Then I remembered the sweat dripping in my eyes while I was working on the sign  :lol:

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on August 24, 2007, 07:04:24 PM
The past few days have been stupid hot. 105 after the humidity has been factored in.
It's 93 right now. Insane.

 :googily:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 24, 2007, 10:00:19 PM
The thunderstorms came in tonight after tweaking us with threats of/perhaps/maybe/nah/well maybe/here just a little rain/blazing hot again/oh there they are for the past week.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on August 24, 2007, 11:09:55 PM
My garden would like some of your rain, please.

This is the time of year when it's still 80 degrees outside and it's starting to get dark. I have to go out to the garden with a flashlight to move the sprinkler.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on August 27, 2007, 03:24:39 PM
The freakin thermometer said 110 in my backyard after I mowed the lawn yesterday.  That explains the gallon of gatorade, the massive headache and extreme exhaustion last night.  I hadn't felt that bad since the day in Davis when we had to get the sod in before it all burned up in the sun.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on August 27, 2007, 04:53:18 PM
Yesterday was weird. Dean blew some droplets our way. It actually rained on us a bit, but most of it evaporated just before it hit the ground.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 27, 2007, 05:03:04 PM
Eldiem, thanks for the rain! It's rained 3 times! More please!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 27, 2007, 06:03:16 PM
Yesterday was weird. Dean blew some droplets our way. It actually rained on us a bit, but most of it evaporated just before it hit the ground.

Same up here. Completely surreal. The clouds made us feel like we were back on godforsaken island
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on August 27, 2007, 06:15:11 PM
Saturday night we had a squall blow in off the Strait. So my little garden was quenched. Thank you.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 27, 2007, 10:56:31 PM
Rained like heck on Lopez in the afternoon. But then on the boat back the horizon totally opened up. Headed for Deception Pass for sunset, was not disappointed.


(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2701/1245369169f705eddc38own3.jpg) (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1428/1245369169_f705eddc38_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on September 04, 2007, 12:57:13 PM
I just love how the local weather is really for LAX (next to the ocean). Yesterday they were predicting 84 for a high in LA. It felt a bit warmer than that. The (non NWS) station in Beverly Hills recorded 114.

/needs to create a melting smiley
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on September 26, 2007, 01:22:22 PM
Quote
.THE AXIS OF BEST PRECIPITATION WILL SHIFT INTO EAST CENTRAL KENTUCKY.

 :rollin: :rollin:

Gives me the lulz.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 26, 2007, 02:36:23 PM
Shoot. The Googles, they do nothing. Anyone have a screenshot of the Axis Café from that Monty Python episode? :rollin:

BTW I have discovered that you can use iCal to get tide predictions and weather forecasts automagically from the intarwebs. THIS IS WHAT THE INTARWEBS ARE FOR, PEOPLE.

Well. That, and porn.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 28, 2007, 12:15:47 PM
Well, it's supposed to be rainy and breezy this weekend... :whatever:

But that's just not going to stop me from doing my last campout of the year. :thumbsup:

The San Juans are in a rain shadow, so there might be hella-downpours followed by some fantastic clearing like the picture I posted up ^^^ a while back.

Or not. I might just be smoking out in the tent all day Saturday and cooking hot dogs instead of riding to the pub for dinner.

At least it'll be quiet and I'm almost guaranteed the killer campsite I've been craving all year... :happy:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on September 28, 2007, 02:18:30 PM
We just had a horrific downpour this morning. It must be the official beginning of typhoon season in western Washington. ;)

And I was just complaining to my fish biologist friend that I felt guilty that I was going to have to drag my sprinklers out one more time to make sure the new plants in the garden don't croak. Guess not.   :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on September 29, 2007, 05:06:22 PM
Anyone have a screenshot of the Axis Café from that Monty Python episode? :rollin:

(http://clivedavis.blogs.com/clive/images/hilter.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on September 29, 2007, 10:53:58 PM
The service here rules
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 09, 2007, 08:36:12 AM
Yesterday's max temp: 81F
Today's min temp: 41F

 :huh:

 :eyeroll:

:whatever:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2007, 09:49:20 AM
Yeah, we get that here, too.  Yesterday's high was almost 90; tonight it'll get down to the mid-40s.  Tomorrow's high is 50.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 09, 2007, 10:17:37 AM
That's kind of where we're at. 90 yesterday, 80 today, 70 tomorrow.
Still hasn't rained.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2007, 11:26:23 AM
The past couple of weeks, it's mostly only rained while it was blazingly hot and the sun was out.  This is because God wants the interior of my car to get wet.

Tonight, though, it may start raining, and it might not stop until Friday.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on October 10, 2007, 12:00:34 PM
That's kind of where we're at. 90 yesterday, 80 today, 70 tomorrow.
Still hasn't rained.

We had your rain.  And rainy season isn't for at least a couple more months here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 10, 2007, 12:07:57 PM
I think we have everyone's rain here. Except we started getting it in August and it hasn't let up since.  :thumbsdn:

This is supposed to be the best time of year to go hiking in the Cascade Mountains. But I'm not willing to risk slipping in mud and wrecking my ankle again.  :cry:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 10, 2007, 12:11:24 PM
It's 60 degrees.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No rain in sight for the next week.

 :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 10, 2007, 12:12:13 PM
Heh. Isn't that kind of like screaming into the wind, toa?

Yes, I do love our drippy corner of the country...

At least it made for a great sunrise yesterday:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2244/1530043446_898e23ea48.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on October 10, 2007, 12:30:03 PM
Yesterday 65 and awesome.

Today 50 and a bit nipply. Fall has come.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 10, 2007, 12:33:00 PM
Fall? Yeah.

Her - sheet, thin blanket, and heavy afgan
Me - sheet

Normally we get one last heat wave. It couldn't last more than two days this time. I think the giant Winter was using poisoned darts this year.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on October 10, 2007, 03:56:30 PM
Bloody hot humid weekend, yesterday pleasant, today grey rainy windy chilly and definitely fall.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 10, 2007, 05:49:03 PM
LOL! Spinny clouds. http://www.goes.noaa.gov/ECIR4.html

Cloud vapor Goatse.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on October 17, 2007, 11:28:28 PM
Ummm... Also file this under "Things I didn't expect to see today"..

A "Special Weather Statement" saying (among other things specifically about the storm coming tomorrow):

RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN NORTHERN ILLINOIS AND NORTHWEST
INDIANA SHOULD BEGIN PREPARING NOW FOR THIS SIGNIFICANT BOUT OF
SEVERE WEATHER. GATHER VALUABLES AND YOUR WEATHER RADIO AND KEEP
TUNED TO TV AND RADIO TO KEEP ABREAST OF THIS DEVELOPING SEVERE
STORM THREAT.

Yeah, I've never been told to "gather valuables" by the Nat'l Weather Service.

The "weather statement" is gone now, so I don't have to worry about it anymore, right? RIGHT??

 :uncertain:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 17, 2007, 11:36:31 PM
are you on a flood plain?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Sidious on October 17, 2007, 11:38:14 PM
The service here rules

This post combined with your current avatar == teh funay.






(http://www.guildhaven.org/images/goat_time_cover_092004.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 18, 2007, 12:05:11 AM
Did you buy toilet paper and bread yet?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 18, 2007, 09:41:37 AM
We've got the same damned warning only it's nadoes and hail (oh my!) and doesn't have the bit about collecting valuables.
Maybe because this is Kentucky, and a dip tin of Skoal isn't considered a "valuable?"

We're out of bourbon, but I don't actually want any for this particular party. It's supposed to go down late at night, and if we're flailing around in the dark with flashlights trying to herd p1g5 for evac - I want a clear head and I want to wake up straight away when the alarms go off. I'll get the table and chairs set up in the basement later this afternoon. If I'm going to flee for my life, I'm going to do it civilized. Except for that one time when we lived in St.M. We were all in the basement and the storm was going postal and I realized I'd forgotten to grab veggies for the pigs. I blasted up the stairs humming Ride of the Valkyries. Not exactly civilized, but very appropriate considering the state of things outside. A bit stupid sure, but, you try sitting in a basement with 10 pissed off p1g5.  :ttth:
That's like trying to hide out in a walk-in freezer. It's too cold baby, too cold.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 18, 2007, 11:37:16 AM
Looks like a BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIN

(http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/fxc/lmk/wx/File.png)


Tonight's forecast:   hail, tornadoes, and zombies
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 18, 2007, 01:36:22 PM
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
414 AM PDT THU OCT 18 2007

...HIGH WIND WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH AND CENTRAL
WASHINGTON COAST TODAY..
...HIGH WIND WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH INTERIOR OF
WESTERN WASHINGTON TODAY..
...WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT THIS AFTERNOON AND THIS EVENING FOR
MUCH OF THE REMAINDER OF THE LOWLANDS OF WESTERN WASHINGTON..

.AN INTENSIFYING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM 300 MILES OFF THE PACIFIC
NORTHWEST COAST EARLY THURSDAY MORNING IS FORECAST TO MOVE EAST
NORTHEAST REACHING THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PORTION OF VANCOUVER
ISLAND LATE THIS AFTERNOON. THE LOW WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK
NORTHEAST INTO THE INTERIOR OF BRITISH COLUMBIA TONIGHT. THE
STRONGEST WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM ARE ANTICIPATED ALONG
THE COAST AND NORTH INTERIOR TODAY. LESS INTENSE WINDS ARE
EXPECTED ELSEWHERE IN WESTERN WASHINGTON AT THIS TIME. WINDS
WILL DECREASE OVERNIGHT TONIGHT.


It sounds much less serious than what the local media (including my paper  :eyeroll:) has been making of it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 18, 2007, 01:40:49 PM
PZZ673-182230-
 /O.CON.KLOX.SC.Y.0253.000000T0000Z-071019T1100Z/
 WATERS FROM PT. ARGUELLO TO SANTA CRUZ ISLAND CA AND WESTWARD 60 NM
 INCLUDING SAN MIGUEL AND SANTA ROSA ISLANDS-
 844 AM PDT THU OCT 18 2007
 
 ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT THROUGH LATE TONIGHT...
 
 ...GALE WARNING LIKELY NEEDED FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY...
 
 .TODAY...NW WINDS 20 TO 25 KT. GUSTS TO 30 KT. COMBINED SEAS 9 TO
 11 FT DOMINANT PERIOD 14 SECONDS.
 .TONIGHT...NW WINDS 20 TO 25 KT. FREQUENT GUSTS TO 30 KT. COMBINED
 SEAS 11 TO 13 FT DOMINANT PERIOD 14 SECONDS.
 .FRI...NW WINDS 20 TO 30 KT. FREQUENT GUSTS TO 35 KT IN THE
 AFTERNOON. COMBINED SEAS 10 TO 12 FT DOMINANT PERIOD 13 SECONDS.
 .FRI NIGHT...NW WINDS 20 TO 30 KT WITH FREQUENT GUSTS TO 35 KT.
 STRONGEST AROUND POINT CONCEPTION. COMBINED SEAS 9 TO 11 FT.
 .SAT...NW WINDS 20 TO 25 KT...INCREASING TO 25 TO 35 KT WITH FREQUENT
 GUSTS TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. COMBINED SEAS 9 TO 11 FT.


Meh. this is what we'd call "flat calm" in the Southern Ocean.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 18, 2007, 02:31:59 PM
Ooooh the windy West Coast!

Yeah, the media up here is trying to tell themselves it isn't going to be as bad as it was last December, that power isn't going to go out for a million people and it's gonna be OK.

I'm inclined to agree, but I'll bet the Island gets knocked out. You pretty much have to have a generator up there with the 30+ years old infrastructure. Lots of trees, and they haven't got their act together yet on burying power cables...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 18, 2007, 05:48:51 PM
Andrrhea, even your weather map is all goated up.  That there's talent.


It was supposed to be all thunderstormy today, and . . . it was sunny and pleasant.

Well, all right then.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 18, 2007, 07:28:48 PM
There's a bunch of 'Nado reports. Listening on the cop radio to them all dive for cover was kind of amusing.

0710 PM     TSTM WND DMG     LOUISVILLE              38.22N 85.74W
10/18/2007                   JEFFERSON          KY   BROADCAST MEDIA

            CARS MOVED BTY HIGH WIND AND REPORTS OF BLOWN OFF ROOFS
            IN CRESENT HILL AREA

Cars moved .... booty?
That can't be good.
Storms passed just north. Round two will do the same. Round three is going to plow straight into us. Ugh. A tree took out a car on Cannons Lane (right behind where we used to live) and there's assorted damage downtown and nearby. I'll copy LJ updates over to the IGTF blog eventually Got a few pictures of the butt-end of the storm passing by. Nothing too impressive, unfortunately.

If the sign on G-Cam.org disappears, there's definitely trouble on the ranch.

Wottamess. Mike's sick as a dog and trying to get some sleep. Pigs are having a blast in the evac bins with the traditional all-you-can-eat 'nado buffet.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 18, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
Awww.. they changed the picture on me. It looked like a brain. Now it's just a big red wad.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Sidious on October 18, 2007, 07:34:18 PM
When cars are moved booty you need to take shelter immediately.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on October 18, 2007, 07:58:27 PM
When cars are moved booty you need to take shelter immediately.

And gather valuables.


Our area is still under a Tornado Watch, even though the radar is clear, the sun would be shining if it weren't nighttime and the birds would be singing. Ridonk. I don't think we even got a single clap of thunder.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 18, 2007, 11:32:57 PM
BIZARRE CONFESSIONS

Gather Valuables and Car Move Booty
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 19, 2007, 01:05:20 AM
It took me two hours to get home tonight. Between power outages at intersections, large branches on the roads and general asshattery that led to collisions (or neat misses). And wind strong enough it felt like I was commanding a PT boat in a typhoon. My knuckles were white from holding onto the steering wheel.

The majority of that time was on surface streets. Once I got out to the freeway, it was pretty smooth.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on October 19, 2007, 08:35:44 AM
It took me an hour and a quarter to get home, and I left at 4:15 and only had 12 miles to go.  The freeways were NOT fine where I was.  This made me half an hour late to Lilia's 1st day at temporary day care (her normal day care lady is in England).

Which brings me to an off-topic bitch: what the hell kind of day care closes at 5 pm?!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on October 19, 2007, 08:38:16 AM
Oh yeah, and a dude died while kite surfing on Lake Washington. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on October 19, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
(You'll have to fill in your own Biz-style rant about idiot kiteboarder/surfers going out in ridiculously high winds.  Biz took the day off to go kite-boarding.)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on October 19, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on October 19, 2007, 09:19:05 AM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003961539_windstorm19m.html

One weather forecast from the day before, Wednesday on the Weather Underground was:

Thursday
Rain in the morning...then showers in the afternoon. Windy. Highs in the upper 40s to mid 50s. Southeast wind 20 to 25 mph shifting to the south 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 50 mph in the afternoon.

That was just stupid weather to go out in.  I would NEVER go out with an approaching storm.  After the storm passes, perhaps, but not before or during.  50mph winds... I don't even have a kite small enough for that.

My forecast for today calls for 24knot (27mph) winds gusting to 35.
http://www.ikitesurf.com/windAndWhere.iws?regionID=232&siteID=1868&Isection=Forecast+Graphs
As you can see, though, there is decreasing cloud-cover.

I'll be on my smallest kite, 5 square meters, and well powered and perhaps even askared.  I won't be doing anything stupid, though.


...leaving now
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on October 19, 2007, 09:35:51 AM
This is the wind graph from Lake Washington, yesterday.
(http://www.bizb.biz/images/fun/windgraphwa.gif)

Any time the wind goes from ZERO to 45 the way it did yesterday, you're crazy to go out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on October 19, 2007, 10:09:39 AM
I admit this made me laugh, though (http://www.defectiveyeti.com/archives/002302.html): not that I'm not taking all you NW US ppl srsly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 19, 2007, 10:22:27 AM
Yeah, we're babies up here hajen. We reallly haven't had the Really Big Fist of Nature whomp us yet, and we should be lucky.

That said, the media goes out of control at the slightest weather deviation. I wonder how bored announcers get when they say it's going to be raining. Usually something like "and it's going to be dry for the weekend."

And I thought of you Biz when I heard that story this morning. I should have known you'd be on it...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on October 19, 2007, 11:24:43 AM
That's hilarious, hajen.  He was FORCED to hang on to a tree!

It's not the weather that bothers me.  I didn't even bother to find the flashlight last night in case we lost power.  It's the goddamn idiot drivers.  ONOEZ!  It's raining just like it does every other fucking day in the fall!  I can't drive today, though!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 19, 2007, 11:49:10 AM
The really good thing was that it was warm enough to ride home without my usual regimen of winter rain gear.

Shorts, the polypropolyne shirt, and the rain slicker...

I took the short way home through Fremont and not along the water because it was so damn windy. But man, did the water and the sunbreaks ever look fuckin' COOL...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 19, 2007, 12:17:43 PM
Yeah, the weather here got exciting before I left work.  The storm sirens were going off for about an hour straight, and two college girls came into the shop:

Them:  "What is that noise?"

Me:  "It's the storm siren.  It goes off when they think a dangerous storm is going to hit the area."

Them:  "So why is it going off now?"

Hmm.  Yeah, that's a poser, what with the horizontal rain and constant lightning out there.


It was 60 mph gusts and all that, but the lightning was truly abnormal.  There was a bunch of no-thunder horizontal-sheet-lightning way up there, like you see in old horror movies, and it looked just as fake.  Then, later, there was also some truly nifty almost-constant lightning.  I was outside (yes, well, needed coffee), and I could read my watch just by the light of the skies.

My brother is askeered of lightning, as it turns out, and he said, "You're not supposed to be out in the open OR stand near anything tall.  I guess what would be ideal would be to be walking through a forest of perfectly evenly-spaced trees that are all just as tall as you are."

:hmm:

Yeah, I think there's a new rubber tree plantation near here somewhere . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 19, 2007, 01:21:34 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna leave testing that hypothesis as an exercise for the student :nuts:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 19, 2007, 01:57:18 PM
I love the video they inevitably show of idiots trying to use umbrellas in this kind of weather. Those people have clearly arrived here from some other part of the country.

You want to stay dry here? Buy a raincoat. With a hood. It's not the height of fashion, but we're not known for that here, anyway.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 19, 2007, 02:21:51 PM
You want to stay dry? Don't move here?!

There, FTFY.

*dusts hands*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 19, 2007, 02:30:45 PM
I dunno. Those North Face raincoats are hella expensive. 200 bucks (and up!) at the trendy store downtown here. For a fucking jacket.

Definitely qualifies as "fashion," although I'm a Columbia man, myself. Basically the same stuff for a fraction of the price at GI Joe's or Fred Meyer.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 19, 2007, 02:49:39 PM
You want to stay dry? Don't move here?!

There, FTFY.

*dusts hands*

 :lol: You're right, that's what I meant to say.

Quote
although I'm a Columbia man, myself. Basically the same stuff for a fraction of the price at GI Joe's or Fred Meyer.

I'm right with you there, chief. My Columbia rain jacket was $40 when I bought it on sale at Fred Meyer about 5 years ago, and it's taken a lot of abuse and still looks new.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 19, 2007, 03:05:43 PM
Why in the world would you want to stay dry when you have that wonderful rain falling from the sky instead of a sprinkler?

Hey, I saw clouds in the last week, and I was excited.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 19, 2007, 03:13:18 PM
Why in the world would you want to stay dry when you have that wonderful rain falling from the sky instead of a sprinkler?


I really don't know. I just know I really enjoy it when it gets all atmospheric'n'shit... :googily:

It's like a religious experience.

Of course, it used to both thrill and scare the hell out of me back in Kansas, but hey...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 19, 2007, 08:13:21 PM
I'll buy a $200 jacket when I go to Antarctica or Mars.  For the temperate zones, that's just, what do you call it, fucking crazy.

I have three raincoats at the moment, for varying uses.  There's a paper-thin black PVC job that I keep in the car for emergencies; it's knee-length but folds up to pocket-size.  Then there's a gigantic nearly ankle-length dark green Swiss military job that's rubberized canvas and would repel a tsunami.  What I wore last night is a Swedish fireman's coat, solid black rubbery stuff (but heat resistant, whatever it is) with a button-in wool liner.  Put together, they probably cost me under $30.

Unless it's serious weather out there, though, my leather jacket is fine.  It's, uh, leather, and has an oiled chrome tan, so it's waterproof enough, although the denim vest does get waterlogged.  I also own a trenchcoat and a hunting cape and various other whatnot, HVAC gear and rain suits and a PVC snow jumpsuit and god knows what, but that's not everyday wardrobe.  I also have a nice Australian not-quite-a-cowboy-hat drover's hat that I got for Nebraska -- wide brim plus a neck cord so the wind doesn't steal it.

You could also just smear yourself all over with Vaseline, but it's not that popular unless you're going to swim the Channel, or something.

Rain is good.  I also like snow, and, if my car is under cover, hail.  The whole joy of bad weather lies in being good at surviving it.  A warm fire plus a cold day equals a smug human, and rightly so.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on October 22, 2007, 11:46:56 AM
Lungs hurt. A little rain, please.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 22, 2007, 12:07:52 PM
w00000000000000000000t! It's finally raining!

*rude dance*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on October 22, 2007, 12:08:23 PM
...and it turns out the OC fire was deliberately set.

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2007, 03:09:38 PM
You got enough people, you're gonna get some deliberate antisocial fires.  And you got enough people, by far.

The fact that it's a giant ventilated tinder pile much of the time will not dissuade most assholes and will, in fact, encourage some of them.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 22, 2007, 03:26:35 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/gif/_44190784_malibu_fires_sat416.gif)

This graphic amuses me. I get the impression that, you know, the likes of Mel Gibson, James Cameron, and Olivia Newton-John are just standing out there. It'd be fun to have this a real-time animated map with a red line showing hte fire perimeters, and the little dots representing celebrities moving around (fleeing in terror, whatever) like the Marauder's Map.



Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on October 22, 2007, 03:27:34 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/gif/_44190784_malibu_fires_sat416.gif)

This graphic amuses me. I get the impression that, you know, the likes of Mel Gibson, James Cameron, and Olivia Newton-John are just standing out there. It'd be fun to have this a real-time animated map with a red line showing hte fire perimeters, and the little dots representing celebrities moving around (fleeing in terror, whatever) like the Marauder's Map.


With little red minus signs over their heads. Like Sims.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on October 22, 2007, 05:49:00 PM
Sucks to be Sting according to that map.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on October 22, 2007, 05:55:30 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44190000/gif/_44190784_malibu_fires_sat416.gif)

This graphic amuses me. I get the impression that, you know, the likes of Mel Gibson, James Cameron, and Olivia Newton-John are just standing out there. It'd be fun to have this a real-time animated map with a red line showing hte fire perimeters, and the little dots representing celebrities moving around (fleeing in terror, whatever) like the Marauder's Map.


With little red minus signs over their heads. Like Sims.

HA!!!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 22, 2007, 06:47:11 PM
Totally.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on October 23, 2007, 09:01:34 AM
Sucks to be Sting according to that map.

For once in that over-blessed mother-effer's life.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on October 23, 2007, 09:02:27 AM
*looks around*

Did I say that out loud?

:innocent:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2007, 11:28:56 AM
MY GOD WE'VE GOT TO RESCUE THESE CELEBRITIES AND THEIR MEMORABILIA
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on October 23, 2007, 01:44:52 PM
You got enough people, you're gonna get some deliberate antisocial fires.  And you got enough people, by far.

The fact that it's a giant ventilated tinder pile much of the time will not dissuade most assholes and will, in fact, encourage some of them.

According to early reports, it was set in three places. Very deliberate and thorough. One fire authority dude said, rather tersely, "someone sure knew what they were doing". It was set on the edge of Cleveland National Forest, which arcs around behind us and is bordered by 3 counties. No telling whether that was the target of the arson, but if Cleveland starts burning, there is no stopping it. So far the winds have blown the fires away from the center of the forest towards Orange County.

Despite your explanation above, I still actually don't get it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 23, 2007, 01:52:44 PM
The Painted Cave fire up here in 1990 was set by a guy involved in a property line dispute with his neighbor. He knew what he was doing, in that his neighbor's property burned first, his property didn't, and the evidence was well-destroyed enough that the DA didn't bother prosecuting him. He was found liable in a civil suit like that other murderer, Simpson.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 23, 2007, 03:43:28 PM
Quote
According to early reports, it was set in three places. Very deliberate and thorough.

It's always seemed to me that anyone, foreign or domestic, with a serious grudge against this country could wreak havoc by setting forest fires. This country has proven time and again that it's ill prepared for natural disasters of most sorts, and forest fires in particular are the one "natural" disaster that can be set off by a single individual who can avoid detection.

Stay safe, Ivan.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 23, 2007, 03:59:40 PM
It's always seemed to me that anyone, foreign or domestic, with a serious grudge against this country could wreak havoc by setting forest fires.

I thought the Japanese try at this was pretty clever. If they'd really kept it up it would have been a pretty significant terror campaign. I guess it's hard to get unlimited funding for a bombing program if you'll never get after-action effectiveness data.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on October 23, 2007, 04:14:37 PM
I'm just wondering if Mattel is going to market a new version of Barbie's Malibu Beach House.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2007, 04:15:22 PM
At least the Japanese didn't strap thermite to bats.

Anyway, since the Bushies haven't attributed this to terrorists yet, who knows?  If it was set by someone who knew what they were doing . . . it sure is distracting people from other bad news, like the billions the Bushies lost trying to rebuild the Iraqi police force, etc, or the tens of millions of dollars in taxes that Blackwater apparently cheated its way out of, and yadda yadda.

You gotta admit, it's a compelling news story that kind of crushes other compelling news stories.  Sometimes the tail wags hard enough to kill the dog.

On the other hand, huge numbers of people have motive to do this, well beyond pyromania.  I mean, no pun intended, but this should light a fire under the housing industry's ass out there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 23, 2007, 04:41:48 PM
I doubt it. The "build it and they will come" might as well be carved in their backs like Kafka.

God, nothing makes me root for Mother Nature more than "development."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2007, 04:46:58 PM
But that's what I mean, whid.  Thousands of homes burned, tens of thousands of people looking to move . . . this could really be a boost to the flagging housing industry out there.  I'm not saying I like it; I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 23, 2007, 05:05:07 PM
Not even. Developers have short memories. They even built across the San Andreas fault, ferchissakes.

What pisses me off is that there's seemingly no way to stop them...

Hey, if you fucked some shit up and they gave you millions of greenbacks for your effort, you'd probably go full-on evil, too...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on October 23, 2007, 05:32:26 PM
I think his point is that all of these houses will need to be rebuilt!  Huge growth for the development industry!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 23, 2007, 05:33:38 PM
Oh. I guess for a moment I was buying into the absurd notion they'd leave it alone, it costs too much, let's look elsewhere.

Like Portland and Seattle...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 23, 2007, 05:57:30 PM
What pisses me off is that there's seemingly no way to stop them...

No. They can tap into basically infinite amounts of money. They will buy your town council outright. They already own the judges.

I'm thinking that the way to stop them is with garlic, holy water, a stake through the heart, and then a lot of fire.

:hmm:

What a coincidence, right now we have a surplus of fire.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on October 23, 2007, 06:06:05 PM
Like Portland and Seattle...

Noooooo!!  I'll never be able to afford a house then!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on October 23, 2007, 06:29:56 PM
What pisses me off is that there's seemingly no way to stop them...

No. They can tap into basically infinite amounts of money. They will buy your town council outright. They already own the judges.

I'm thinking that the way to stop them is with garlic, holy water, a stake through the heart, and then a lot of fire.

:hmm:

What a coincidence, right now we have a surplus of fire.

Dude, you take one out, two pop up in it's place.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 23, 2007, 06:44:53 PM
What pisses me off is that there's seemingly no way to stop them...

No. They can tap into basically infinite amounts of money. They will buy your town council outright. They already own the judges.

I'm thinking that the way to stop them is with garlic, holy water, a stake through the heart, and then a lot of fire.

:hmm:

What a coincidence, right now we have a surplus of fire.

Dude, you take one out, two pop up in it's place.

DAMN. I thought that wasn't true if you used fire.

Damn unreliable Wikipedia ...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 24, 2007, 09:36:07 PM
Tommorrow AM:  Widespread frost.

Tommorrow noon:  60 F and sunny.

Well, all-righty, then.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 25, 2007, 01:07:50 AM
Yesterday: 75 degrees and sunny.

Today: 45 degrees and raining.  :harumph:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 25, 2007, 10:19:12 AM
Oh, I'm sure you'll like the next couple of days...:)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on October 25, 2007, 01:31:54 PM
One thing about SoCal, fire is part of the natural cycle. Local natives, before the Spanish arrived, would periodically set fire to huge areas to refresh and renew. That approach doesn't really work for us.

You have a choice -- move out of SoCal, or live only in (rather unpleasant) urban areas, or take your chances. People keep coming here because, to them, it's worth the risk. If no one wanted to live here, developers would stop developing and go develop wherever it is people want to live. So there is only one solution to this problem: change what people want.

We tried that approach -- changing what people want -- and it worked for a while, to some extent. Then the Berlin Wall came a-tumbling down, and it became clear that people weren't wanting what they were supposed to be wanting all along.

Damn foolish people.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 25, 2007, 01:49:31 PM
It's not quite that cut-and-dried, though, ivan.  Humans are, by nature, pretty terrible at risk-assessment, especially for long-term stuff.  But humans can be educated, although it does take some effort.

In any case, our government is (if you believe the Right) good at influencing people through economic incentives.  OK, then . . . don't let people build flammable houses if they live in a fire zone.  If non-flammable houses are too expensive, then no one will build them.

Just as an example, not necessarily a simple proposal.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 25, 2007, 01:54:20 PM
Non-flammable houses, with a special external icing agent that kicks in when a bigass fire is detected.

Of course, the environmental assessment would be staggering.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 25, 2007, 02:43:03 PM
Er ... non-flammable houses? Made of what, exactly? In these fires, cars melt. Fiberglass? Well, the resin holding the fibers together will burn, even if the glass won't. And these fires do get hot enough to melt glass. It ain't the acetylene, it's the oxygen, that makes torches go so hot.

And even if so, unless they are perfect insulators, they must be filled entirely with non-flammable things.

:hmm:

Sounds like a good Photoshop contest
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 25, 2007, 03:12:45 PM
Bah!  For what these people pay for their houses now, I could build highly wildfire-resistant houses.  I mean, off the top of my head . . .

1.  Choose location wisely.  I mean, within the crazy intermittent-hell zone you already decided to live in.

2.  Landscape appropriately.  You gotta maintain this, too.  Reduce the amount and density of vegetation within fifty to a hundred meters of the house.

3.  Insulated monolithic concrete dome construction.  Large amount of below-grade space.

4.  HVAC with serious smoke filtration.  The filtration wouldn't be on except, you know, when needed, so the cost would not be astronomical.  Serious water storage, battery capacity, etc.

I don't think any active cooling system would be needed, especially if you added roll-down steel storm shutters like some concrete-dome houses have.  Insulated shutters wouldn't be so difficult, and then the entire exterior, when the house was shut up, would be non-flammable and very heat resistant (certainly to several hundred degrees F), and since the house would minimize surface area to its volume, it would be quite resistant to external heating, especially in the basement, and if you really wanted you could certainly use evaporative cooling so that the fire outside actually cooled the interior of the house (especially below-ground) faster than it heated it.  That would require considerable cistern volume (rain plus gray water), but if you're spending all this money anyway . . . .

Some of those monolithic dome houses are breathtaking on the inside but structurally make some of Saddam's bunkers look like Lincoln Log houses.  I think it's perfectly possible.  If we can have people camp out on the moon overnight, and stay in Antarctica for years on end, we could do this.  The problem is that we build conventional houses, let them burn, and complain about it.  It's not too bright.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 25, 2007, 03:51:30 PM
Starting in January, houses in fire prone areas have to be made of flame (resistant or retardant, I forget which) materials. Will it help? :shrug: There's a lot of preexisting stuff so it will take a long time for that to have a significant effect. But it'll help some people.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 25, 2007, 04:38:45 PM
You might be looking at the occasional Stalagmen uprising.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on October 25, 2007, 04:49:22 PM
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In these fires, cars melt.

I saw some footage on tv of some aluminum tire rims that had melted into a puddle. The news guy picked it up and displayed it for the camera - it was pretty cool looking.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on October 25, 2007, 05:23:03 PM
A lot of the houses lost this past week, especially the ones in San Diego County, were not built in especially risky areas, and were up to current codes, which specify fireproof roofs and other measures. Many had pleny of clearance. But nothing stands up to a wind-driven fire. Like Hmof said, cars melt. Fires jump across major highways.

The Santa Ana wind condition occurs 2 or 3 or more times every year, usually in Fall before the rainy season, such as it is around here. Often, perversely, the rains come quickly on the heels of the Santa Anas, causing the legendary fire/mud-slide double whammies. The most dangerous places to live, if fire and mud are your bugaboo, is in foothill developments. That's a very, very large number of homes. The vast majority of those homes will never catch on fire or be buried in mud.

We don't live on a slope, but our little area -- which was originally developed as a group of resort cabins in the 1920s -- is surrounded by nature. We are adjacent to a national forest. Although our area is not in the forest, it is protected by a specific plan that prohibits (or tries to prohibit) the removal of large indigenous trees. So there are hundred-year-old trees looming over every property. All it would take is for one of them to catch a flying ember in the midst of a Santa Ana condition, and the neighborhood is toast, despite asphalt shingles and stucco and assiduous land clearing.

No matter where you live in Orange County, someone is going to point a finger at you and call you stupid, greedy or irresponsible.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 25, 2007, 10:03:56 PM
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Starting in January, houses in fire prone areas have to be made of flame (resistant or retardant, I forget which) materials. Will it help?

Probably not.  Look, the bottom line is that the government is not going to take strong enough measures to deal with this kind of problem.  They won't create strong enough building guidelines because -- and I admit this freely -- they're too prohibitive, and virtually no one would build new houses.  They won't sufficiently restrict new construction zoning.  They won't raise taxes to fund adequate fire-fighting forces. 

No, they've created this problem over decades, and they only seek to ameliorate it.  The cure is too painful, and people don't have the gonads for it.  We don't tackle large problems well.


Wind-blown fires obviously don't jump any barrier.  Hawaii was not threatened by this fire.  There's a middleground in there somewhere, and my point is that we won't reach it because it's still too much for people to accept.  I don't mean 'some people' or 'those people'; I mean human beings in general.  But, c'mon, even the Santa Anas aren't going to throw a forest fire across 100m with enough heat to crack a proper concrete dome.  Frankly, probably not across 30m.

If your house is in a lovely forest, that's obviously awesome unless the forest is on fire.  I am a total supporter of forests and would love to live in one myself . . . but not one that's likely to catch fire.  I'm not saying anyone else should move.  I'm just saying it's not for me. 

They certainly should not have built as many hillside developments as they have.  In any case, the question isn't whether the majority of them will burn or slide, but whether too many will.  I tend to be pretty conservative about that, but I'm kinda paranoid.  Hell, I don't like to live in a house that fronts less than 20' from the road or has electric baseboard heating.


As for the Stalagmen, I would keep fire extinguishers loaded with supercritical CO2 to convert them from their uncured limestone structure to a marble-like supramic carbonate.  I don't know if that would kill them, but it should at least slow them down to the point where I could use them as statuary.  They wouldn't manage to move more than maybe an inch or two over the course of my ownership of the house, so . . . whatever.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 26, 2007, 11:19:46 AM
Wellllll....

Back in the non-glowing ember world hundreds of miles to the north...

We're in a nice dry weather pattern with lots of sun.

It was a chilly one this morning, though. I need to break out the heavier gloves for the ride in...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 26, 2007, 11:40:50 AM
Ivan, your area (I'm only guessing based on what you've said, and looking at the satellite imagery) is not the kind of development people are complaining about. The problem is the densely packed mini-mansion subdivisions at the bottoms of canyons sticking out into the undeveloped forest areas.

A bunch of the geographers in my department are involved in a multiagency research dingus called RESAC (http://www.icess.ucsb.edu/resac/resac.html), which looks at fire in Southern California, basically. Originally they were going to stick strictly to meteorology and terrain, but when the GIS guys and fire protection officials got together for real they started looking hard at the human geography problems having to do with evacuations. Turns out fire protection officials have been bitching for years about sensible development practices not being followed, in urban and rural areas, but their complaints have fallen upon already deaf ears plugged with rolled up hundreds. There are dozens of places (in fire prone and not fire prone areas) where a) they can't get fire trucks in at all, and/or b) evacuation under ideal cirumstances will take about a week. But, being "good soldiers" in the war on fire (and, frankly, Republicans), the firefighters are not taking their concerns to the public like those pinko commie hippies do, which is unmanly and wrong and supports terrorism or something . So they just grit their teeth under their gym-teacher mustaches and prepare to risk their lives and get blamed for not going a good enough job. I'd go on strike, frankly, rather than put up with that sort of abuse, but I'm an unmanly commie pinko hippie, etc.

Really there should be zoning that is enforced. You should not have subdivisions in mountainous areas bordering on southwest-facing mountains in southern California. Period. Keep it at the level of scattered ranch houses and the odd resort community, and the losses will be much less.

Maybe this will be easier to achieve now that the housing boom is over, but it will come back some day and the same stupid stuff will start over.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 26, 2007, 11:48:51 AM
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I'm an unmanly commie pinko hippie, etc.

THIS


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Really there should be zoning that is enforced. You should not have subdivisions in mountainous areas bordering on southwest-facing mountains in southern California. Period.

THAT.


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it will come back some day and the same stupid stuff will start over.

THE OTHER THING.


Seriously, too, this is not a California problem but an Earth problem.  Aside from the hurricane zones with dumbass flimsy houses and flood plains and mansions built on soon-to-be-active lava fields in Hawaii and one-side-stilted housing projects on San Francisco hillsides, there are, oh, literally hundreds of millions of people around the world who live on flood plains.  I mean, sea-level rise is going to eviscerate Bangladesh in an absurd way.  If you thought Florida and New Orleans were in trouble, it doesn't even compare.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 26, 2007, 12:37:41 PM
*shrugs*

Developers have no morals. They're out to make money, and they justify that people want to live in those kinds of areas and are willing to absorb the risks.

That's what insurance is for...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 26, 2007, 12:51:35 PM
Yes, but it's even worse than that, because a lot of the people who buy those houses don't really understand the risks.  The developers usually know the score; they just don't care.  But who wants to tell the homebuyer?  Not the builder.  Not the real estate agent.  Oh, they know . . . wildfires . . . vaguely.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on October 26, 2007, 04:50:21 PM
Again, many of the areas affected in the latest firestorm were not in risky areas. A lot of them were regular tract homes with lawns and swimming pools surrounded by asphalt and sidewalks... but close enough to open areas that the 100 mph winds were able to blow embers at them. After that, houses were being ignited by their neighbors' homes. How the hell do you assess that kind of risk? During the Santa Anas, a firestorm can develop in a regular urban setting as well.

Like I mentioned before, my house is in a fire-prone area, and also in a flood plane. By "fire-prone" I guess I mean there are trees and open areas with wild grasses about. However, until this week, there had not been a fire here in decades, possibly even centuries. Our neighborhood has structures built in the 1920s, and the nearby forest has structures going back to the 1800s. Nonetheless, everyone who lives here knows that fire has a higher probability of gutting this neighborhood than does, say, a maniacal developer with a bulldozer, although I still think I have more to fear from the latter. So we have fire insurance, but the real indication of the assessed fire risk is the fact that it is almost impossible to get flood insurance on our property, and what we can get is exorbitant. Statistically, the impending 100-year flood is far more likely than fire. I, for one, welcome our new watery overlords.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 26, 2007, 04:52:22 PM
I, for one, welcome our new watery overlords.

Oh, give them a couple of months.

More, if it's gonna be an El Niño year.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 26, 2007, 05:31:43 PM
MudAshslides are going to be fun when the rains hit.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 26, 2007, 05:34:59 PM
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.html
They're saying it's a girl, for now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 26, 2007, 06:12:53 PM
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How the hell do you assess that kind of risk? During the Santa Anas, a firestorm can develop in a regular urban setting as well.

First sentence, meet second sentence.  Second sentence, meet first sentence.

I'm just sayin'.  The view is different from further back, ie, outside California.  Given [Santa Anas], value [regular urban setting] may be inappropriate in the first place.  But, again, this kind of thing happens all over.  Where I used to live in Vermont, it was pretty likely that 5-10 days a year you'd have no power, no water, and/or the roads would be impassable.  If you can and do prepare for the liabilities of your location, that's good.  If you can't or don't, it's probably a bad idea to live there.

If you think the odds are whatever, and you're OK with that, that's good too, but you know how it is.  Sometimes the dice come up Screw You.  What mostly amazes me is how many people out there seemed to have never considered the idea that they might ever have to flee their homes and were completely unprepared.  I mean, I would've already had the baby pictures uploaded to an offsite backup, just for starters.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 29, 2007, 11:31:29 AM
Heck, let's just fireproof the whole planet. Coat everything in that stuff they use to line truck beds... :drunk:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 29, 2007, 01:13:47 PM
That lining is flammable.  It's cool stuff, but flammable.  I still want an old car that I can sand down and then paint with that stuff . . . .

Of course, I also want a workshop partly just so I can try painting the walls with garage-floor epoxy paint. 

[born to experiment]
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 04, 2007, 10:32:18 PM
According to weather experts, tomorrow:

- Will be in the low 50s.

- Will have wind gusting to 40 mph (~65 kph).

- Has an 80% chance of rain and .5" (1.25 cm) of snow accumulation.

Wait a minute . . . .  They're saying it won't even quite get down to freezing overnight, but that we may get another .5" of snow accumulation by morning.

Maybe they don't mean the "accumulation" part?  Or is this going to be scary Snow-9?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on November 04, 2007, 11:35:37 PM
The "low 50s" is the high temp for the day. I don't know, man.

All I know is we have a forecasted low of 24F on Tues Night/Wed and I'm all like wtf?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on November 19, 2007, 03:16:37 PM
Y'all.

WTF

Tuesday: Partly sunny, with a high near 75. South wind between 8 and 11 mph.

Wednesday: 69 degrees. A chance of showers, then showers and thunderstorms likely after 1pm.

Thanksgiving Day: A 40 percent chance of showers, mainly before 5pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 47.

Thursday Night: A slight chance of snow or rain showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

 :nuts:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on November 19, 2007, 04:15:15 PM
Oh, good freaking timing, Mother Nature. Busiest travel day of the year? I am glad I will not be anywhere near O'Hare on Wednesday.


Tonight: Areas of drizzle. Widespread dense fog, mainly after midnight. Otherwise, cloudy, with a low around 44. S

Tuesday: A 40 percent chance of rain, mainly after noon. Cloudy, with a high near 55.

Wednesday: Rain likely, mixing with snow after noon.  Chance of precipitation is 70%.

Wednesday Night: Rain and snow likely, becoming all snow after 9pm. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Thanksgiving Day: A 40 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a high near 36.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on November 19, 2007, 05:37:45 PM
Yeah, the one day I HAVE to drive, it rains. It rains like once a month around here  :angry:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 26, 2007, 09:37:52 PM
Point...and laugh. Go ahead. See what I care...

(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/83/1127forecastnx8.gif)

Still, it was a chilly wet ride back to Ballard. My fault for not bringing the p0rper gear to suit the occasion...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 26, 2007, 10:51:25 PM
Well, our low temps are the same, tonight anyway. But the highs are about 20 degrees higher.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on November 26, 2007, 11:21:54 PM
Colder here, and "breezy" and "chances of snow" and "etcetera."

I can't wait until March, when a high temp of 40F is warm...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 27, 2007, 11:47:18 AM
Snow and froz.  I've been paying a mileage penalty for the AWD, so bring on the snow. 

And keep everyone else around here off the road :eyeroll:.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on November 27, 2007, 12:10:33 PM
Point...and laugh. Go ahead. See what I care...

Laugh? Hell, I'm jealous. I'd love to have all that rain. We've been getting a little lately, but it could probably rain for a month straight here before causing any problems.

Way too early for the freezy stuff here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Sidious on November 27, 2007, 03:50:42 PM
I haven't seen it get above 10F/-12C yet today, which is what the temp is as of now.  It's still better than when I came into work.  At that point it was 0F/-18C.

Brrrrr.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on November 27, 2007, 04:43:00 PM
I drove home in a snowstorm last night...

But about 15 miles from my house it turned to rain.  :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 27, 2007, 04:46:31 PM
Why is that bad?

What is it about people in the lowlands wanting snow?   :banghead: :spank: :skull: :chair: :boobies: :dugahole:

OK, I'm better now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on November 27, 2007, 04:50:53 PM
Because it would be a glorious change of pace from mid-70s and sunny. Again. And Again. And Again.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 27, 2007, 05:09:26 PM
Yeah well, there is a device called an automobile that can transport one to elevated climes where snow is known to happen.

I've heard tell of it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on November 27, 2007, 10:51:01 PM
That city boy's talkin nonsense agin...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 28, 2007, 09:27:21 AM
Problem is, if everyone keeps using this new fangled "automobile" we hear tell of, there isn't going to be as much snow.

Just sayin.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 28, 2007, 11:52:30 AM
Is California the New Sahara?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on November 28, 2007, 12:20:37 PM
Why is that bad?

What is it about people in the lowlands wanting snow?   :banghead: :spank: :skull: :chair: :boobies: :dugahole:

OK, I'm better now.

Dude, I work in the lowlands, but I live in the foothills, where snow is supposed to fall.   :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on November 28, 2007, 12:59:24 PM
We had a freak ten-minute blizzard yesterday just as I went to get the kids from school. By the time we got coats 'n hats 'n mitts 'n boots on, it was sunny out. WTF.

DAMN YOU WINTER H8 H8
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on November 29, 2007, 09:41:10 PM
Sunday: Hi 59°F   

Sunday Night: Lo 33°F
Thunderstorms Likely

YA THINK?!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 29, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
I don't see how they muster "thunderstorm" status at that temperature. You'd think it'd need to be warmer for that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 30, 2007, 12:59:09 PM
Probably once a year, up in Vermont, I saw a thunderstorm below freezing, with snow instead of rain, always after dark.  (Although . . . in the mountains, Teh Dark seems like about 18 hours a day for most of the winter, and you have to keep Vin Diesel around to punch monsters.)   

Lightning-backlit snow is pretty funky.  We also got the occasional freezing rain where it was not drizzling but POURING, which is in-retrospect hilarious to drive in.  Creepy slowly along a dirt road is very plausible under those conditions, but you have to keep getting out to break the ice off the windshield wipers.  It's like those stories about bush pilots in Alaska, or something.  Except that they can't keep stopping to get out of the plane, I guess.  Just once, pretty much.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on November 30, 2007, 01:07:21 PM
Rain! Slow, real, rain.

Grandma isn't happy it's on her birthday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 01, 2007, 07:03:07 PM

Snow!  :D

I just finished putting up new seed/suet feeders for the birds.

Earlier today there was a little downy woodpecker out there on the peanut suet feeder.

(http://z.about.com/d/birding/1/0/6/u/1/davekull-downy3.jpg)

Not my photo, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 01, 2007, 07:54:29 PM
We had thundersnow in the Southern Ocean a number of times last year. Totally awesome, but they would close the decks so we couldn't enjoy it very much. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 01, 2007, 08:04:18 PM
It snowed hard!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 01, 2007, 08:35:23 PM
Sleet, hail, freezing rain, snow, and Chex mix out there.  It'll be over 40 F tomorrow, so this is just bluster, but naturally my brother, my SIL, and the fencer-girl-clerk from work are all traveling tonight.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 01, 2007, 10:12:28 PM

Snow!  :D

I just finished putting up new seed/suet feeders for the birds.

Earlier today there was a little downy woodpecker out there on the peanut suet feeder.

(http://z.about.com/d/birding/1/0/6/u/1/davekull-downy3.jpg)

Not my photo, unfortunately.

Dude!

Did I tell y'all about *my* downy woodpecker? She comes by every day to eat from the suet feeder. Usually she hangs out for like 10 minutes or so, she's a little piggy. I got some pictures, but I need batteries to get them off the camera...

Oh and for weather, it sucks. It snowed, then sleeted, and is now freezing raining. Booo.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 02, 2007, 08:53:23 AM
Downy Woodpeckers must have a pretty wide range - I've got some regulars down here too. They're funny little birds. They act so nervous and paranoid, peeking around one side of a limb, and then the other, scooting up and down the tree. There's not many birds hanging around this time of year except for them, chickadees, cardinals, doves, the occasional finch, and juncos.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 02, 2007, 09:32:50 AM
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/downy.jpg)

This is from May, 06. You can see how they've worn the paint/stain off the post the suet feeder is mounted on,  from climbing up and down it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 02, 2007, 02:37:59 PM
Did I tell y'all about *my* downy woodpecker? She comes by every day to eat from the suet feeder. Usually she hangs out for like 10 minutes or so, she's a little piggy. I got some pictures, but I need batteries to get them off the camera...

No, I would have remembered that!  :happy:

And mo, I'd die to see a day where there was more than one downy at my suet feeder. It seems like the woodpeckers around here (there's also a flicker that comes for the suet) are solitary feeders. I never see more than one at a time.

We also have the giant pileated woodpeckers here -- I've heard them in the distance -- so I'm hoping one of these days to see one at the suet.

Right now the regular visitors at the feeders are a group of 3 chestnut backed chickadees, one goldfinch, one purple finch, one song sparrow, two squirrels, and a dozen or more juncos.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 02, 2007, 03:28:46 PM
It's 40 F and raining like crazy.  Supposed to keep raining (with some snow) all night and get down into the 20s. 

Everywhere that I can park my car is under an old tree.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 02, 2007, 05:28:48 PM
I saw a giant pileated woodpecker up in the mountains a few years ago. It sounded like a group of people were beating a hollow tree with baseball bats, and the thing looked like a pterodactyl. Awesome creatures. I've never seen one around here though.

The downy woodpeckers are out there pretty much every day. The family picture I posted is a pretty rare scene - normally there's one on the feeder, and one sitting in the tree next to it, looking at the one eating with this worried look like there's not going to be anything left. I had been putting the suet out for a while before they ever showed up - it may have taken several months to a year for them to start hanging out so often. I fill the feeder pretty religiously.

I left nuthatches off my earlier list. Another one of my favorite birds that always hangs around. The white breasted ones are pretty much always around, and the brown headed ones are occasional visitors. They both make cool sounds - the white breasted sound like they're saying "uh-uh", and the brown headed ones sound like a pet's squeaky toy.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 03, 2007, 02:36:39 AM
OK...snow's cool, I...guess.

Hugeass flakes. Not really warm enough to stick...and then it rained like heck...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2043/2082546545_887db164c1.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 03, 2007, 07:37:34 AM
Well, it stopped raining.  Now it's all foggy out there.

Snow showers. Cloudy, with a steady temperature around 28. Blustery, with a northwest wind around 24 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph.

Blustery?  24 mph (40 kph) is blustery, I guess.  I'll be glad to move my car.


edit:  We've already been upgraded to "Windy conditions" and then "Wind advisory", with teh 50 mph (85 kph) winds.  This could be an interesting trend.  I'm glad I'm not still driving the Van.

TWC has also informed me that it's 30 F warmer in gay Paree.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on December 03, 2007, 10:44:46 AM
The temp sank, we got dumped on (say six-eight inches?), I had to run out and shovel like heck because the temp quickly rose up and we got freezing rain all night, then this AM the temp sank again. SIGH.

They're saying Canada's going to have the worst winter it's had in fifteen years, and that the last two winters were unusually warm. UNUSUALLY WARM?? The last two winters sucked!! Now I'm scared.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 03, 2007, 12:25:10 PM
We went for a walk in 60F weather. It was about 20 min. Then the wind started. Around 4 hours later it was in the 30's. The storm system wussed-out so we didn't get boomers and nadoes. That is a-okay with me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 03, 2007, 02:59:18 PM
The Snohomish, Stillaguamish and Skykomish are among the rivers in Western Washington listed by the National Weather Service in Seattle as facing the greatest threat of flooding.

A major storm system, combined with a weather double-whammy in the Cascades, has triggered flood watches for rivers throughout the Puget Sound region.

Freezing levels in the Cascades are expected to rise to around 7,000 feet today, which could then be hit with as much as 5 to 10 inches of rainfall by this evening.

The threat of flooding on area rivers is expected to continue through Wednesday afternoon.


It was hellish driving to work. Part of my route is on a highway three miles alongside the Stillaguamish, which is rising quickly.

Fortunately I live on a hill above the river, but getting home will  be interesting. I might leave early.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 03, 2007, 03:50:31 PM
Definitely leave early. Flooding is dangerous enough on it's own - but navigating around that stuff in the dark can get people killed.

Draw a circle on your butt with the words "Bite Here" if work has a problem with with that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 03, 2007, 08:30:00 PM
I'm an ass. I should have left here like three hours ago.

This is just up the road from where I work:

(http://dhimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Dato=20071203&Kategori=NEWS01&Lopenr=71203003&Ref=AR&avis=DH&MaxW=625&MaxH=500)

THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR
  THE STILLAGUAMISH RIVER AT ARLINGTON.
* FROM 5 PM MONDAY UNTIL LATE TUESDAY NIGHT.
* AT  3:39 PM MONDAY THE STAGE WAS 12.9 FEET.
* FLOOD STAGE IS 14.0 FEET.
* MODERATE FLOODING IS FORECAST.
* FORECAST...RISE ABOVE FLOOD STAGE AROUND 5 PM MONDAY AND CREST NEAR
  18.0 FEET AROUND 10 PM MONDAY. THE RIVER WILL FALL BELOW FLOOD
  STAGE TOMORROW AFTERNOON.
* IMPACT...AT 18.0 FEET...THE STILLAGUAMISH RIVER WILL FLOOD MANY
  ROADS INCLUDING HWY 530. ..PIONEER HIGHWAY...MARINE DRIVE AND
  NUMEROUS LOCATIONS ALONG NORMAN RD. SWIFT WATERS WILL FLOOD
  RESIDENTIAL AREAS NEAR SILVANA...NORMAN AND FLORENCE.  A STAGE OF
  18 FEET ON THE STILLAGUAMISH RIVER CORRESPONDS ROUGHLY TO PHASE 3
  IN THE SNOHOMISH COUNTY FLOOD PROGRAM.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 03, 2007, 10:15:52 PM
Man, there's always double the fun involved with your weather, toa... :trance:

Stayed home today, said the heck with it. Besides, water got in the apt. Enough to cause all matters of annoyance, the under the carpet and spreading kind. All the landlord's fault because he hasn't cleaned out the drains in about three years...

That said, it usually doesn't rain like th----SHUT YOUR MOUTH. :chair:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 04, 2007, 09:35:10 AM
I'm in friggin San Diego, and I'm all "why did I pack a sweater?" It's, like, hot here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 04, 2007, 02:39:19 PM
Preparedness!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 04, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
Around here that would mean SPF 30 as part of the regimen on "cloudy" days.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 04, 2007, 02:53:21 PM
Around here that would mean SPF 30 as part of the regimen on "cloudy" days.

 :rollin: :rollin:

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 04, 2007, 07:28:15 PM
I'm complaining about my area being flooded, but have you folks heard about or seen the flooding along Interstate 5 in southwest Washington state?:

(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/12/04/2004052543.jpg)

20 miles of the freeway is underwater, in some places up to 10 feet under.  :trance:

And here (http://www.heraldnet.com/assets/pdf/DH33943124.PDF) is your detour route.  :shock:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 04, 2007, 07:30:24 PM
Ah, the perils of paradise...

Raymond (http://www.pacificedc.org/IMAGES/Map_of_Washington_highlighting_Pacific_County_2.jpg) had 100 mile an hour winds. That must have freaked some people. Usually nothing happens there...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 04, 2007, 07:41:36 PM
Reminds me of when the Sepulveda Dam Recreation Area was underwater. It parallels the 101, but about 30 feet lower. There were street lights showing at the waterline - that was the only way to tell where the street was.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 05, 2007, 03:11:07 AM
There were a bunch of Seattle people from PMEL on the ship today. They were all, "yessss!"
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 05, 2007, 07:18:34 AM
Holy shit, what a mess. I was watching an episode of Dirty Jobs the other night where they were gutting houses that were flooded during Katrina. It really helps to understand the scope of the disaster. Most of the guys in the wrecking crew were not in that line of work before the flood - their old jobs don't exist anymore.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on December 05, 2007, 09:34:23 AM

20 miles of the freeway is underwater, in some places up to 10 feet under.  :trance:


 :shock:

Holy schnikies.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on December 05, 2007, 10:49:18 AM
*boggle*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 05, 2007, 11:33:05 AM
What has the federal response been?  I've only seen Bushies talking about the flooding in Iran.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 05, 2007, 01:05:28 PM
Meh. Bush only comes out to Warshington when he needs to butter up some Republican running for office...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 05, 2007, 01:28:26 PM
Well, the governor declared a state of emergency, but by god I can't find much about what the feds are doing to help. :huh:

Now turns out that back in 2003, the Legislature was set to pass a roads package that would have addressed the flooding problem (build taller levees) in the area you see in the photo I attached above. But political bickering tabled that, along with the fact that Congress dragged its feet to provide their part of the funding. Then the two cities involved couldn't agree on how to fix the flooding and who was going to maintain them, so they told the Army Corps of Engineers to stop studying the issue. The Corps told them they couldn't do anything about it anyway, because there was no funding.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 05, 2007, 02:30:21 PM
because there was no funding.  :eyeroll:

There probably wasn't much left over from the billions they gave Boeing to stick around...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 06, 2007, 01:53:14 PM
Maybe snow tonight
Maybe boomers near the end of the weekend


Kentucky. WTF
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 06, 2007, 02:58:36 PM
(http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/forecast/images/nra90.jpg)

We're going to the outdoor mall tonight. We anticipate no crowds at all, and Gene Kelly splashing at policemen.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 06, 2007, 05:40:44 PM
It got down to 7 F (-13 C, I think) last night, but it's going to stay in the 20-35 range for the next few days.  Supposed to get around 2" of snow tonight, and then just flurries on and off for a few days.

This doesn't bother me in the slightest, but I'm totally sympathetic to people who hate it.  I loaned a proper winter hat to a friend who's from warmer climes and thinks she understands the Warm Clothes principle but, alas, really doesn't.  Seen it all too often before.  Aberzombie & Bitch 1/4" acrylic is not in the same league as quilted hollow-fiber with rabbit fur.  Fortunately, having your ears turn red and fall off will overpower many people's slavery to fashion.


edit:  Their ears, I mean.  I know a lot of people who would refuse to wear an unfashionable hat regardless of what would happen to my ears as a result.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 06, 2007, 05:52:23 PM
Starting Saturday, the highs here will be in the low 70's and the lows in the mid 50's until like mid next week some time  :D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 06, 2007, 06:54:03 PM
It got down to 7 F (-13 C, I think) last night, but it's going to stay in the 20-35 range for the next few days.  Supposed to get around 2" of snow tonight, and then just flurries on and off for a few days.

That, except it got down to 5F (-15C) this morning and the range for the next couple days will be 14F-32F. OMG we might break freezing!!11

Seriously I was really, really wondering if the ol' car was gonna start up this morning.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 08, 2007, 11:00:13 PM
"A FRONT WILL MEANDER ACROSS THE REGION SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY."

Meander. LOL.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 08, 2007, 11:18:03 PM
Some images from the flooding last week.

(http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/4/S/a00000008043b9a/1/0/HyKHG7xX7T9afVK8Ffc_IuuMbq4Vy9Zx.jpg) (http://www.slide.com/s/YiYJpZgg3j8McsUIvWTFSCriGJEBLWKd?referrer=hlnk)

(http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/4/S/a00000008043ba1/1/0/B-jWuVp17D8vEcX4OjjR15iqVDbQJJbw.jpg) (http://www.slide.com/s/8P9XYu1Y5D8SaqHK4B17f0aNKj8_zx_O?referrer=hlnk)

(http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/4/S/a00000008043ba4/1/0/tn0IPjMQ4z-Eb3zGe3JVXQJMhI8rMewk.jpg) (http://www.slide.com/s/6iLY7DpF6D_1qvQpP5JBJSzZ48ejiTZT?referrer=hlnk)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 15, 2007, 09:58:04 AM
Looks like it got a bit wet out thar.

The weekend here is supposed to be pretty assy. Rain, sleet, snow, more rain. Bleh. Then they issued this warning:
YOU ARE ..STRONGLY.. URGED TO DELAY ANY UNNECESSARY TRAVEL THIS MORNING IN NORTH CENTRAL KENTUCKY AND SOUTHERN INDIANA.

Okay, I will ..totally.. stay home today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 15, 2007, 09:07:52 PM
Yesterday, they thought the snow was going to miss us this weekend.  Instead, we got flurries and maybe .5" (12mm) today, and now they say that by tomorrow sunset we'll have another 9-16" (25-40cm).

:shock:

Yes, of course I work tomorrow.  I told the other guy working tomorrow not to worry about trying to get there on time, or, worse, to get there at all.  He . . . has a scooter. 

It's a good scooter, though.  He was looking at a buzzy little Yamaha, and I said, "Personally, I want a Honda Ruckus, and I might get one as soon as I get an apartment near here."

He said, "WTF is a Ruckus?"  So he looked it up online.  Now he has a Ruckus.

Ooooh . . . I'm teh jealous.  But it's not a Rokon, or something, and might have trouble getting through 16" of snow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 15, 2007, 10:13:31 PM
Honda Ruckus sounds like something Jackie Chan drives.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 16, 2007, 08:44:22 AM
I just wanted reply number 666.

 :diablo:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 16, 2007, 12:40:09 PM
Quote
Honda Ruckus sounds like something Jackie Chan drives.

:lol:  Except that he's been a Mitsubishi spokesman for like 300 years. 

It comes up more often in some films than others -- crazy-ass Thunderbolt and the wacky done-for-charity Twin Dragons more than most, but in some he drives weird Mitsubishi concept cars just for the hell of it (Armor of God or Gorgeous, for instance).

Amusingly, the best driving scenes might be in Who Am I?, where some actress no one ever heard of plays the driver.  Excellent improbable car chase, although not as Oh, Please over the top as the Transporter movies (although those do have some good fight scenes and wiseass moments).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 22, 2007, 06:17:58 PM
It was a little over 60 degrees today. Mucho awesome. Now the payment's due.

RAIN SHOWERS WITH A FEW EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS WILL PRECEDE A STRONG
COLD FRONT TONIGHT. THESE THUNDERSTORMS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO BE
SEVERE...HOWEVER WIND GUSTS MAY BRIEFLY EXCEED 50 MPH WITH ANY
SHOWER OR THUNDERSTORM THIS EVENING.

WINDY CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT AND PERSIST
THROUGH THE EVENING. SUSTAINED WINDS UP TO 30 MPH...WITH GUSTS AS
HIGH AS 45 MPH ARE POSSIBLE. MOTORISTS...ESPECIALLY THOSE IN
HIGH-PROFILE VEHICLES...SHOULD USE EXTRA CAUTION WHILE DRIVING.
REMAIN ALERT FOR SUDDEN GUSTS OR CROSS WINDS AS TRAVEL WILL BE
HAZARDOUS AT TIMES.

Blah blah blah 30+MPH winds all the way through Sunday.

Groovy. Didn't need to sleep anyways, right? Because Crank would just say "sleep is for the weak."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on December 22, 2007, 06:28:48 PM
eeeewwwww.  Wonder how much of that is going to hit us in west virginny? I'm traveling tomorrow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 22, 2007, 06:51:57 PM
I have a button from when we worked Faire that says, "Sleep is for sissies."

My nieces are out hula hooping in my parents' back yard. It's sixty or so, and to them it is quite nice out there without having six layers of clothing on.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on December 22, 2007, 08:10:57 PM
Curse this weather!!  I think I might just go the woods next week to kill....er-ah...take pictures of deer.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 22, 2007, 09:03:59 PM
Curse this weather!!  I think I might just go the woods next week to kill....er-ah...take pictures of deer.

Kill every single deer you see. Spare none.

/does not like the over-sized vermin.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on December 22, 2007, 11:02:29 PM
 Hayyyyy,  can I help it if they fall down every time i take a picture?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 22, 2007, 11:24:38 PM
Weather is ridiculous.

It's 48F right now (10:30pm) and it's going to be 16F in ~30 hours. That'll be fun to drive in after the rain washes all the salt away and then freezes. Mmm.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on December 23, 2007, 02:52:51 AM
couldn't sleep....opened front door to look outside. Wind is moving pretty hard. Something is blowing in..
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 23, 2007, 05:54:40 AM
WEST TO SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS AROUND OR
SLIGHTLY ABOVE 50 MPH WILL OCCUR FOR AN HOUR OR SO IMMEDIATELY
BEHIND THE FRONT...WITH WINDS OF 20 TO 30 AND GUSTS TO 45 MPH
CONTINUING AFTER THAT. WINDS OF 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 45 MPH
CAN BE EXPECTED ACROSS THE ENTIRE REGION THROUGH EARLY THIS
AFTERNOON.

Well, at least I got one hour of sleep. Ugh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 23, 2007, 08:13:52 AM
Yah, same-ish here.  50F at the moment (that's about, what, 10C) with a pretty steady 30 MPH wind and 50 MPH gusts (50 KPH and 85 KPH, respectively), and intermittent rain.  Later, intermittent snow, as the temp will keep dropping (should be freezing by noon!) until it hits the low 20s tonight (-6C).

TWC, naturally, is currently telling me what the weather was like in Baltimore on Thanksgiving, as part of some seasonal summary.  I appreciate that they're still fondling the data, but a current local forecast and radar map would be more helpful.

Still, every storm where the old walnuts and maples don't drop a big branch on my car is an OK storm with me.  The way it's blowing out there, I'll be surprised if we don't lose power today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 23, 2007, 08:26:32 AM
:lol:

On TWC, the guy out in the field (I don't know where he is, as it doesn't say on the screen :eyeroll:) is trying to show how windy it is, so he has one of his techs hold a football for him to placekick.  (The industry standard.)  Problem is, when it comes to kicking a football, let's just say he's no Charlie Brown.

It's clearly freezing wherever they are; they're both bundled up so much they have to turn at the waist to look to the side, and the guy can hardly even run up to the ball.  The guy kneeling on the ground doesn't look too happy, either, and the people back in the newsroom are just mocking them.

Someone's going to yell at his producer in a few minutes . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 23, 2007, 09:49:15 AM
I just looked at your radar, Axe. Imagine if you poured blue food coloring in one side of your toilet, and green in the other and then flushed. There ya go.

I'm just glad the local forecast for Tuesday has gone from a 50% chance of rain down to 20%. I was really dreading driving in the rain in what is likely to be a sardine packed interstate.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 23, 2007, 11:00:43 AM
Well, that was fun.
Our for sale sign is listing like the Titanic just before it went down and one of the neighbors tacky electric reindeer got completely taken out.

No damage to report other than to my mood.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 23, 2007, 11:32:32 AM
Yeah it's not really any wonder the wind woke me up at 3am. Sustained winds at 32 MPH with gusts up to 43 at the airport. The whistling sound was slightly off-putting.

Not really any wonder; It's now 15F (12 hours ago it was 48F, that's some srsly strong temp-a-ture gradient).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 23, 2007, 02:44:24 PM
Ya. 61 to 30 something was a bit dramatic.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on December 24, 2007, 03:01:27 AM
it's cold here!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 24, 2007, 10:15:15 AM
here too!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 24, 2007, 06:58:21 PM
It was like 52F or so here in Mary-land when I landed. I was practically sweating in my hoodie.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 24, 2007, 07:37:38 PM
We're having another ash storm.

It's completely postapocalyptic, except that the ash isn't radioactive.

As much, anyway.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 25, 2007, 12:08:28 PM
44 degrees. Sunny out. Not bad.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 25, 2007, 04:57:16 PM
We're having another ash storm.

It's completely postapocalyptic, except that the ash isn't radioactive.

As much, anyway.

(http://www.deeko.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/ashe1.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 26, 2007, 01:38:49 AM
Good...bad...I'm the guy with the snow.

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2258/img0877ki7.jpg)

Right during Christmas dinner, too...what timing... 8)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 26, 2007, 02:03:09 AM
Yeah, our friend Kyle was saying it was his first snowy Christmas ever.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 26, 2007, 03:31:20 PM
Snow here almost entirely vanished by Xmas AM.  Today, it's been sunny and over 40F (5C).

Not bad, but not too Xmasy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 26, 2007, 03:52:04 PM
We usually have a sunny xmas.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on December 27, 2007, 09:42:38 AM
It was like 52F or so here in Mary-land when I landed. I was practically sweating in my hoodie.

Craziness!  I sweated throughout Christmas Eve and Day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 27, 2007, 10:40:38 AM
Quote
I sweated throughout Christmas Eve and Day.

:huh:

Sounds like a good time.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on December 27, 2007, 12:33:28 PM
Not that way.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 27, 2007, 12:56:55 PM
Wow I just read your thing under your avatar.  :hug: back at ya :tal:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on December 27, 2007, 01:16:19 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 27, 2007, 03:43:57 PM
NWS says 100% chance of snow.  :whatever:

Where I live, we're just on the dividing line between "east Puget Sound lowlands" and "North Cascades" so no forecast ever seems right -- today it will be somewhere between 1-2 inches of snow or a whole shitload of it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 27, 2007, 04:01:29 PM
They said 100% chance for us yesterday and there was nary a flake in sight.  It's damn close to snowing today, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 27, 2007, 04:02:53 PM
It was supposed to snow, but it's too warm here.

They're calling for rain...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 27, 2007, 04:45:41 PM
Rain? In Northwest Washington? Noooo....
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 28, 2007, 02:53:04 AM
Hey, Andy Wappler, Eyewitness News Chief Meteorologist,

(http://blogmedia.thenewstribune.com/media/1871442.jpg)



 :gfy:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 31, 2007, 05:00:51 PM
Tonight: Periods of snow, mainly after 7pm.  Low around 23.  Blustery, with a southeast wind 7 to 10 mph becoming north between 17 and 21 mph.  Chance of precipitation is 100%.  New snow accumulation of 6 to 12 inches possible.

New Year's Day: Periods of snow showers, mainly before 7am.  High near 28.  Blustery, with a north northwest wind 25 to 30 mph decreasing to between 17 and 23 mph.  Chance of precipitation is 100%.  New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.

Tuesday Night: Snow showers likely.  Cloudy, with a low around 15.  North northwest wind between 15 and 17 mph, with gusts as high as 28 mph.  Chance of precipitation is 70%.


Well, now I'm almost glad I have nowhere much to go.  Moved my car (hopefully) out of the way of falling branches . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 31, 2007, 05:13:46 PM
That should make for some pretty impressive snow drifts. I hate it when they use the word "blustery". Nothing good ever comes from it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 31, 2007, 05:53:38 PM
Worked for AA Milne...

(http://www.disneylps.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/3953.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 31, 2007, 10:06:46 PM
OMG. I had that book and record combo.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on December 31, 2007, 10:26:36 PM
Glad we're not driving home tonight. Stayin at the Merry Not so we both can get our drink on. Rain turning to snow and bitter cold.  Bleeeaaaaugh!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on January 01, 2008, 01:54:11 AM
yikes! bitter cold front moving in by morning! Went outside to check the crawl space door and discovered half of it rotted away! Had to improvise  quick with a big flat board and some of that handy dandy spray foam to glue it in place....whew! right in the nick of time. Did all that in the dark! I can hear the wind and it's  getting cold!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 01, 2008, 11:04:30 AM
It snowed like 3-4 inches last night. Low tonight of 6F!! Brr.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 01, 2008, 11:58:58 AM
Yah -- by midnightish, it was basically supposed to keep snowing on and off until sometime tomorrow, but it hasn't snowed at least since 7:30 AM, and we only got maybe six inches overnight.  Maybe four inches; I haven't gone out there yet.  It's also not even breezy out there so far today.

The weather predictions for up here tend to be a little melodramatic.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 01, 2008, 12:44:50 PM
It was perfect yesterday, and damn near perfect today.

go figure
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 01, 2008, 01:59:01 PM
Snow advisory issued.
For maaaaybe one inch of snow.

 :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 01, 2008, 02:31:24 PM
Yeah, it was about 6" here.  As usual, it's not the roads that are so bad, though, but the drivers.  TWICE I was almost forced entirely off the road by pickups with snowplows.  Just because you have a snowplow doesn't mean you get to hang over the centerline by a foot and a half, assholes.

I heard on the news that near Detroit they got almost 14" of snow in under four hours.  Now THAT'S a snowstorm, baby.


My SIL gets her fabulous (and fabulously expensive) Volvo sports hatchback tomorrow.  It's truly a whip-snappy little car, if the reviews can be believed, but it's a bad move financially for them.  I know, it's none of my business, except they owe me money.

BUT, anyway, my brother's been driving the Tercel since I got my new car, and the alternator died, and he knew it but drove it until the battery was dead anyway.  (Every car he's ever owned has had alternator problems.  I don't know how he does it; it must be a statistical distribution problem.)  But we needed to move the Tercel because my hellniece is losing her parking spot because the new sportsVolvo is going there.  (I'm already parked off the side of the driveway, because the Subaru will drive in and out of an un-shoveled spot, no problem.  Heh heh.)

So . . . he and I pushed the Tercel out of the driveway, over-through the 2' berm of snow at the end of the drive, and into the yard.  Thank Thor it has 5" wide tires and weighs 1600lb.  Still, my boots don't have great traction in the snow -- I own slip-on cleats and, yes, crampons, for that matter, but of course I was not wearing the cleats, etc.  So we rock the Tercel (:headbang:), and then one big shove gets it into-over the berm . . . and my feet slip.

WHAM, to the ground, in that Too-Fast Impact style that makes your teeth hurt and causes instant nausea.  (Why do not the inner ears have shock absorbers?  Stupid Richard Dawkins!)  AND my forehead -- BWAAAHNG! -- hits the rear bumper.  My brother, of course, is laughing hysterically, and I would've been angry except that it turned out I was laughing, too.  Ah, the miracle of fresh snow!  It automatically makes injuries funnier.

Well, the Tercel's in the backyard now.  Probably until late Spring, if I had to guess.  And I'm sure the hellniece will complain and try to make me park at the neighbor's house.  But she goes back to school on the 10th, I think, and with any luck I'll be moving out before too long, too.

:pray:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 02, 2008, 04:59:19 PM
I have a sunburn from yesterday morning's three and a half hour swim.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 02, 2008, 05:59:34 PM
I'm worried about the stray cat I've been feeding. I put out some food and it normally would have shown up by now. It got down to like 20 degrees last night, and it's going to be even colder tonight. I made a little shelter thingee for it to crawl into, but I don't think it will. There's a bunch of giant boulders in the woods behind my house, and some of them have like little caves it could crawl into. Hopefully it's found somewhere to stay above freezing.

 :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 03, 2008, 12:21:21 AM
Here's the first reallyfuckincold snap this winter. It's *just* above 0 F right now but with windchill feels like -6 F. Brrrrr.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 03, 2008, 12:36:19 AM
17 degrees in LOLville.
Next week it'll be 60 for a couple of days.
What the FUCK?!
In People's Republic of Vermont, weather does not do that.

No. Really. I've been here... jesus... going on six years now.... and it's still like, WHOOOOO - SPOOF IN THE ASS! Every fucking year.

Your weather, Kentucky.... WTF?

WTFtucky.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 03, 2008, 09:01:57 AM
B-more is similar - don't like the weather?  Wait five minutes.  Except it's usually more like five days.  We're ear-deep in our first real cold snap as well (measured by how much of my body is wrapped in protective covering) and I'm trying not to curse it.  The book I just finished features a lot of action in, on, and around a 700-ft wall of ice, so I imagine I'm dodging wildings and make it an adventure.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on January 03, 2008, 10:18:19 AM
Next Monday/Tuesday, we're supposed to be in the mid/upper 50s.  I might get in a kiteboarding session!  If not, it'll be 2 months since I last played with my toys.  Feh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 03, 2008, 10:53:21 AM
Yah, it was 1F when I unwillingly got up this morning, but this weekend it's supposed to get up into the low 50s.  (Goodbye, snow.  Hello, mud.)  Meanwhile, in FL, they're getting ice on the next citrus crop.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 03, 2008, 12:17:35 PM
Yesterday afternoon while I was riding home a formation of big lenticular clouds was marching in from the north over the mountains. It was really cool. It looked like a UFO invasion fleet -- or a monochrome version of Boston's first album cover. I could not get to a camera before it got dark though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 03, 2008, 12:50:56 PM
It's supposed to rain here today.  The clouds look ominous.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 03, 2008, 01:12:22 PM
Well if you believe the Weather Cervix (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/forecast/MapClick.php?map.x=183&map.y=117&minlon=-121.29&maxlon=-117.61&minlat=32.65&maxlat=35.81&mapwidth=354&site=lox) it's going to start raining today and not stop until March or something.

So much for that drought.

Although out here people are pretty worried that all the fire-denuded hillsides will just erode into the reservoirs and fill them deep enough to block the intakes, making for a drought situation despite a yard of rain.  :shock:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 03, 2008, 03:04:42 PM
Looks like Seattle's forecast, but they're off on the temperatures by...30 degrees...:brr:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 03, 2008, 06:48:54 PM
Yeah this morning it was fucking ridiculous.

The radio kept telling me 0 degrees with -12 wind chill. (That's Fahrenheit) Guh. When I got to work I looked at the 3-day history on the NWS site and it went from 10F to 0F in 10 hours, at a rate of -1F/hour. I don't think I've ever seen that, so regularly anyway.

Right now it's a balmy 13F outside, though it's supposed to get up to 50 on Sunday and Monday (wtf?)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 04, 2008, 03:48:39 PM
We're having quite the storm.  Gusts to 80 Knots have been reported and we're getting a pretty serious deluge.  Not a big deal for most of you guys, but for here it's big news.  The news stations are going overboard with their Storm Watch stuff.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 04, 2008, 03:51:42 PM
Our power was out this morning because of the wind.  It's 50, though, so at least we won't freeze like last year when this happened for a week.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 04, 2008, 03:58:34 PM
It's raining hard here now. :knotty:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 04, 2008, 04:01:04 PM
It's...still Seattle here.

I swear how most of the p0rpulation doesn't turn into brutal serial killers during the winter is amazing...

But I digress. It isn't the weather that's making me such a bitch these days...

Actually, it's a blinkin' heat wave today. 53 and a sunbreak...:)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 04, 2008, 04:01:37 PM
The East Bay and North Bay along with the Coast have been battered much worse than us.  Last I heard, only about 300 were without power in San Jose, whereas the other areas were in the thousands and tens of thousands.  We have two full propane tanks and a heater attachment if it comes to that, plus I think the temp isn't supposed to even go below 45 overnight.  According to NOAA, the worst of the wind should be over by this evening.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 06, 2008, 10:28:01 PM
It's 62 degrees. Right now.

Gonna be close to 70 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 07, 2008, 08:57:55 AM
We're having that today and tomorrow.   :nuts:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 07, 2008, 09:39:51 AM
CAZ052-071700-
/O.CON.KLOX.SB.Y.0002.000000T0000Z-080107T1700Z/
SANTA BARBARA COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
144 AM PST MON JAN 7 2008

...SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM PST
THIS MORNING..

A SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM PST
THIS MORNING.

PERIODS OF SNOW...HEAVY AT TIMES WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MID MORNING
TODAY. SNOW LEVELS WILL BE AROUND 3000 FEET. TOTAL SNOWFALL
ACCUMULATIONS FROM SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH MID MORNING TODAY
WILL AVERAGE 5 TO 10 INCHES...GREATEST ABOVE THE 4000 FOOT LEVEL.

ALONG WITH THE SNOW...THERE WILL BE DENSE FOG AND AREAS OF NORTHWEST
WINDS 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 40 MPH. AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW
AND DENSE FOG WILL REDUCE VISIBILITIES TO NEAR ZERO AT TIMES.

A SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW ADVISORY MEANS THAT VISIBILITY WILL BE
LIMITED DUE TO A COMBINATION OF FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW.
MOTORISTS...ESPECIALLY OPERATORS OF HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES...ARE
URGED TO USE CAUTION WHILE TRAVELING. BE PREPARED FOR SUDDEN GUSTY
CROSS WINDS WHICH COMBINED WITH SNOW COVERED ROADS CAN CAUSE VEHICLE
LOSS OF CONTROL.

$$


And it's a school day, too. Damnit.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: vox8 on January 07, 2008, 11:19:55 AM
Quit Bogarting the precipitation maaaaan.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on January 07, 2008, 12:02:11 PM
Today's high temperature is predicted to be 67 degrees in Toledo.
Winds blowing 25-20 out of the south.

Yippee!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 07, 2008, 12:17:41 PM
Quit Bogarting the precipitation maaaaan.



Yeah, that's what I keep thinking when I hear about all these floods and stuff - yeah, it's flooding, because that's our rain - it's supposed to be over here!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 07, 2008, 12:33:54 PM
Actually January is our rainy season.  And sometimes it even starts a little early in December, and sometimes it even lasts through February or March.  Then it's non-rainy season again.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 07, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
It was -17 C not even a week ago. This AM it's 10 C. Holy WTF? We had to drive home in this awful fog last night from all the snow steaming up from melting or sommat. It's still quite foggy outside. The inside of my porch is covered in condensation. We have so much snow piled up though that it's only halfway melted so far.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 07, 2008, 12:52:40 PM
Lifeguards hate this line...

THERE IS A HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK ON ALL AREAS BEACHES TODAY.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on January 07, 2008, 02:35:18 PM
I don't understand why people have such an issue with rip currents. 

I mean, Barbie knows how to get out of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7rMgp4yz68
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on January 07, 2008, 04:24:16 PM
It was 12 fucking degrees today. I just got home from a 1.5 hour run in shorts and a pinny. I relish the opportunity to go for a nice long run in moderate weather in January, but worry what this means for old Mother Earth.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 07, 2008, 05:39:35 PM
Lifeguards hate this line...

THERE IS A HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK ON ALL AREAS BEACHES TODAY.

There always is, though. Especially the farther north you go up the coast...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 07, 2008, 06:46:15 PM
It was 12 fucking degrees today. I just got home from a 1.5 hour run in shorts and a pinny. I relish the opportunity to go for a nice long run in moderate weather in January, but worry what this means for old Mother Earth.

Yeah, it was in the 60s today at my parents' house in northern IN.  Their 18" of snow from last week is gone.  Supposed to be back down to the 20s this weekend.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 07, 2008, 08:26:44 PM
It was 64F today, after being 0F last week. (That's a record high for today)

Severe Thunderstorm and Oh-Na-Do watches in effect.

WTF?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 07, 2008, 10:37:45 PM
Is Roland Emmerich up there shooting a sequel, or what?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 08, 2008, 11:01:36 AM
Shooting up, maybe.

It was 60 F last night, then thunderstorms, and flooding this morning, but the rain's finally starting to let up, with a bit of sunlight making it down to the surface.  It'll drop below freezing tonight.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 08, 2008, 11:30:50 AM
SOUTHERLY WINDS OF 20 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS 40 TO 45 MPH ARE
EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON AS A STRONG COLD FRONT APPROACHES SOUTHERN
INDIANA AND CENTRAL KENTUCKY. STRONG WINDS WILL CONTINUE TONIGHT
AS THE COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH THE REGION...WITH WINDS GUSTS TO
AROUND 45 MPH.


It's wailing out there. The boomers are supposed to start partying later today/tonight. Ehhhhh, we'll see.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 08, 2008, 04:52:05 PM
A potent cold front is approaching the area from the west.  This will bring widespread showers and thunderstorms to the region this evening and overnight.  Some thunderstorms may be severe, with damaging winds over 60 mph being the main severe weather threat.  An isolated tornado or two will also be possible, mainly west of I-65 between 6pm-10pm EST.  Because of this, a tornado watch is in effect until 10pm EST.

Ick.

blah blah blah rain blah

Lastly, a wind advisory continues for all of south-central Indiana and central Kentucky through this evening and the overnight hours.  Wind gusts over 40 mph will be possible at times through 7am EST Wednesday morning, especially just ahead of and behind the approaching cold front.  This will create hazardous conditions for travelers, so use caution while driving this evening.

Double ick.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 08, 2008, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: weather cervix
A potent cold front is approaching the area from the west.

Potent?!?! Watch yer butt. And tune up the birth control!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 08, 2008, 05:26:35 PM
Yeah it was pretty impressive here last Friday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 08, 2008, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: weather cervix
A potent cold front is approaching the area from the west.

Potent?!?! Watch yer butt. And tune up the birth control!

That or I won't need the bourbon if sirens start going off.

 :uncertain:

Punch drunk from the lightning and whirling death vortices... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! BEEP!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 08, 2008, 06:47:53 PM
.DISCUSSION...
A WARM AND MOIST AIRMASS IN PLACE TODAY WILL ALLOW AREA INSTABILITY
TO INCREASE SLIGHTLY TODAY...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 08, 2008, 06:50:53 PM
Yeah...I've heard tell of these conditions called "weather..."

But hey, "civil twilight" now lasts 11 minutes after I get off work.

Progress... 8)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 08, 2008, 07:09:47 PM
Somewhat related - Mike got me this for Solusmas: http://www.strikealert.com/ProductInfo.htm

I tested it for false positives and it passed with flying colors. Tonight there's a fair bit of activity approaching. Been BEEP... BEEP A BEEPing for a while now. Man certainly knows how to pick a present. When the storms finally get here, I'll sneak outside and see what it makes of that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 08, 2008, 07:13:07 PM
Bravo for  :bitzero: :clap: what a great present!  :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 08, 2008, 07:33:02 PM
Quote
I'll sneak outside and see what it makes of that.

 :lol:

See? That's why I shouldn't have one of those. I would be out storm chasing, trying to make it go off.

Seriously though, that's a pretty cool gadget.

Actually, I was being pretty serious already  :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 08, 2008, 07:34:41 PM
Taht is awesome!!!!  8) 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 08, 2008, 08:16:38 PM
WANT.

Although we don't get nearly as much lightning as you seem to.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 08, 2008, 10:07:32 PM
Can I tweak it so it always says lightning within six miles? Please?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: First Post on January 08, 2008, 10:41:54 PM
scary lightning story (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=41663). Dario is by far one of the coolest athletes I've ever met, just a tremendous guy. You'd never know just talking to him that he had been through something like this.

Not to reinforce any phobias about lightning though, as it thunderstorms year round here and everybody's used to it. There's the old thing about "one second between flash and thunder = one mile away", as a rough estimate. The best advice I guess would be to try and stay out of open areas with necklaces or golf clubs or whatever during big storms.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 08, 2008, 11:57:31 PM
http://blogs.trb.com/news/weather/weblog/wgnweather/2008/01/chicagos_rapid_warmup.html
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 09, 2008, 12:26:10 AM
We escaped the worst of it.
It's been mostly out-of-hand wind and some rain.
There were 'nadoes to the SW and to the NE, tho.... but that's their problem.

But yeah, don't fuck around with lightning. It likes me for some reason, but I'll say out loud that the feeling isn't mutual.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 09, 2008, 01:26:16 AM
..HIGH WIND WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 AM EST /3 AM CST/
WEDNESDAY...

SOUTHWEST WINDS OF AROUND 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 50 TO 60 MPH
WILL CONTINUE ACROSS THE AREA OVERNIGHT AS A STRONG
COLD FRONT PASSES THROUGH THE REGION. WINDS WILL BEGIN TO
DECREASE TOWARD DAWN AS THE FRONT MOVES OFF TO THE EAST.


Yep. Hicktucky blows.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 09, 2008, 11:25:59 AM
I've always loved a good lightning storm, even when I was a kid and it scar't the shit out of me.

Lightning's way too subtle up here. One big boom and that's it.

But then again, reading about joggers getting zapped really isn't too uncommon...

We get freaky thunderstorm action in the mountains in winter, too, which also has been known to take more than just a few off-guard, especially when boomers and warmer temperatures cause avalanches... :geek:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 10, 2008, 01:45:58 PM
Okay, now they're just getting silly.

Quote
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL OVERSPREAD ALL OF CENTRAL KENTUCKY
AND SOUTH CENTRAL INDIANA BY 1PM EST. FREQUENT LIGHTNING AND
RAINFALL RATES UP TO THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH PER HOUR ARE
EXPECTED WITH THE STRONGEST STORMS...AS WELL AS THE POSSIBILITY OF
PEA SIZE HAIL.

THESE STORMS WILL AFFECT THE FOLLOWING CITIES AND TOWNS IN CENTRAL
KENTUCKY AND SOUTH CENTRAL INDIANA...LOUISVILLE...LEXINGTON...
SHELBYVILLE...CORYDON...NEW ALBANY...JEFFERSONVILLE...SALEM...
MADISON...AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

IF YOU ARE IN THE PATH OF THESE STORMS...BE PREPARED FOR SUDDEN
REDUCTIONS IN VISIBILITY FROM THE HEAVY RAIN.

ALL THUNDERSTORMS ARE ACCOMPANIED BY LIGHTNING AND ARE DANGEROUS.
LIGHTNING OFTEN STRIKES AS FAR AS 10 MILES AWAY FROM THE
THUNDERSTORM.  IF YOU CAN HEAR THUNDER...LIGHTNING IS CLOSE ENOUGH
THAT IT COULD STRIKE YOUR LOCATION AT ANY MOMENT.


I haven't seen hysterics like this since they showed Bridezilla footage live from Filene's Basement.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 10, 2008, 06:05:07 PM
Quote
IF YOU CAN HEAR THUNDER...LIGHTNING IS CLOSE ENOUGH
THAT IT COULD STRIKE YOUR LOCATION AT ANY MOMENT!!!!

 :lol:

You need to quit reading these things!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 11, 2008, 02:05:45 AM
Rare January tornado blows through Vancouver, Wash. (http://www.komotv.com/news/13683607.html)

Gnarly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 11, 2008, 02:24:58 AM
Weird...the  Vancouver/Portland tornado of 1972 (http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/01/tornado_warnings_recall_deadly.html) was the worst tornado on the West coast...

I'm surprised they're not more frequent. The Columbia is a trough where crazy winds could easily build up across the gorge. I'm guessing that the warm air over cold air thing that creates funnel clouds isn't common.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 14, 2008, 09:08:52 PM
Yesterday: SUNNY, 50 degrees.  :thumbsup:

This morning: Blustery, scattered showers, 47 degrees.  :huh:

Tonight: Snow, blowing sideways, 32 degrees.  :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 14, 2008, 09:15:23 PM
We had a beautiful sunny warm weekend.  I took Ian for walks both days.  I have no idea how today was since I've been at work all day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on January 15, 2008, 12:15:58 AM
snowing outside. I heart snow. just hate the bitter cold that goes with it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 15, 2008, 10:01:11 AM
We get an inch of snow here, and everybody drives in a special crazy style.  They don't agree on which crazy style, of course.  Some go faster than usual, and some drive down the middle of the road (literally in both lanes) at 25 MPH in a 55 MPH.

What really offends me, here in the 21st century, is that we got less than two inches of snow, and it stopped snowing around 4 AM, and at 8 AM the major roads had not been cleared.  Instead, they'd been driven on to the point of being all icy and crappy.  The road I take to work is a 55 MPH major school bus route for two big schools, and I usually see half a dozen busses in the morning, but it doesn't get cleared?

I saw four cars off the road this morning: a Jeep that was sideways into a tree, with the cops and a tow truck already there; a generic domestic sedan in the ditch; and TWO pickups with snowplow blades, one sideways in the ditch and one in a field.  The busses all seem to have made it OK so far, though.  Pickups with snowplows are routinely driven by the biggest assholes around.  They frequently don't reorient the blade after they're done plowing, and so they drive along with the thing hanging out into oncoming traffic (:eyeroll:), and a lot of them seem to believe that putting a giant metal thing on the front bumper turns your pickup into a Sno-Cat.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 15, 2008, 12:53:34 PM
We get an inch of snow here, and everybody drives in a special crazy style.  They don't agree on which crazy style, of course.  Some go faster than usual, and some drive down the middle of the road (literally in both lanes) at 25 MPH in a 55 MPH.

What really offends me, here in the 21st century, is that we got less than two inches of snow, and it stopped snowing around 4 AM, and at 8 AM the major roads had not been cleared.  Instead, they'd been driven on to the point of being all icy and crappy.  The road I take to work is a 55 MPH major school bus route for two big schools, and I usually see half a dozen busses in the morning, but it doesn't get cleared?

I saw four cars off the road this morning: a Jeep that was sideways into a tree, with the cops and a tow truck already there; a generic domestic sedan in the ditch; and TWO pickups with snowplow blades, one sideways in the ditch and one in a field.  The busses all seem to have made it OK so far, though.  Pickups with snowplows are routinely driven by the biggest assholes around.  They frequently don't reorient the blade after they're done plowing, and so they drive along with the thing hanging out into oncoming traffic (:eyeroll:), and a lot of them seem to believe that putting a giant metal thing on the front bumper turns your pickup into a Sno-Cat.

They also tend to forget to put a counterbalance in the back. = to or greater than the weight of the blade.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 16, 2008, 06:28:20 PM
IT'S SNOWING IT'S SNOWING OMFG IT'S SNOWING11!!Q!@@!!!

 :nanaparty:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 16, 2008, 07:04:47 PM
Sweet! /jealous
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 16, 2008, 07:27:58 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: anvil_parachute on January 17, 2008, 02:10:47 AM
Top story on every local newscast in LA:  "It sure is windy out there"

*Cut to reporter on random street corner experiencing bad hair day to the power of 10*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: sm0k4 on January 17, 2008, 07:03:38 AM
OMGWTFSNOOOOW! :shock:

/southerner

I still have to go to work, though.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 17, 2008, 09:39:53 AM
IT'S SNOWING IT'S SNOWING OMFG IT'S SNOWING11!!Q!@@!!!

 :nanaparty:
Oh crap.  Atlanta is officially closed.

Pix?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 17, 2008, 09:40:46 AM
Okay.  It's snowing to the north and south.  Could the Mid-Atlantic get a little love?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on January 17, 2008, 11:49:31 AM
raining here.....supposed to turn to snow. I might head up to my cabin tomorrow....take a camera with me.

* build a fire ....coffee...watching the snow through the big window.....
might get lucky and see a coyote wandering through*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 17, 2008, 12:11:52 PM
IT'S SNOWING IT'S SNOWING OMFG IT'S SNOWING11!!Q!@@!!!

 :nanaparty:
Oh crap.  Atlanta is officially closed.

Pix?

It's pretty much all gone now. It changed to rain during the night and washed most of it away  :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 17, 2008, 12:42:22 PM
Ask and ye shall receive!

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Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: robin on January 17, 2008, 02:29:44 PM
it's beautiful..
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 17, 2008, 06:10:42 PM
I did manage to get one shot last night. It's way after sundown, so the colors are weird.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/snow.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 17, 2008, 10:06:53 PM
Weather here is Really Fucking Cold.

At work we were watching outside as it was snowing all day but not sticking. Intertubes weather said it was 34F. Then about an hour before I leave I notice it start to stick to pavement. Yeah, get outside and my car doors are frozen shut. Now it's 5 hours later and it's 13F with a biting wind (wind chill -4F)

Jaysus gawd. It's supposed to get Really Cold on Saturday. Meaning a high temp of 5. 5F. I'm excited. :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 17, 2008, 11:28:10 PM
1/8" of ice on the windshield this morning. Very amusing to me and unit two. And a bit of a conundrum -- I don't even own an ice scraper any more.  Finally I stuck my head out the window and just started driving: the air itself wasn't that cold so it melted pretty quickly after that.

The hell happened to my ice scraper, anyway?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 18, 2008, 12:20:52 AM
No shit. Must be a Vest Coast thing. The squeegee...it does NOTHING. :banghead:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 18, 2008, 02:54:10 AM
I still have my ice scraper that I bought in OKC back in '91.  I don't ever think I've seen one in a store here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 18, 2008, 10:03:52 AM
That takes care of one Winter Holiday gift.   :happy:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 18, 2008, 10:06:52 AM
It's worth buying a mini can of lock de-icer if you only expect a freeze like that once a year, at most.  The thing's the size of a can of Binaka, it's guaranteed not to damage your paint, and a quick spritz will eat right through a coating of ice on your windshield.  Once you get even a hint of that stuff behind the ice, the ice'll come off the glass in big pieces.

Plus, you know, if the door lock freezes . . . .


edit:  A little table salt will also work on your windshield, too, but don't use so much that it's going to get all over your paint, and don't run the windshield wiper blades until the salt's dissolved.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 18, 2008, 11:27:40 AM
Probably not a bad idea, but ice on the windshield is scarcer'n' hen's teeth up here.

Even without a scraper, all I have to do is warm up the truck and the ice falls...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 18, 2008, 12:03:01 PM
We've found that having a garage prevents ice-related issues.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

/rowdy

 :moonwave: :moonwave: :moonwave: :moonwave:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 18, 2008, 12:03:55 PM
What, you're saying you put your car in your garage?

How very odd.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 18, 2008, 12:05:47 PM
It's supposed to get cold this weekend.

Saturday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 9. Wind chill values as low as -3. Northwest wind between 9 and 14 mph, with gusts as high as 22 mph.

It's only for a few days, so the solitary worry I have over it is the cost of the gas-fired furnace running all day and night.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 18, 2008, 12:07:02 PM
What, you're saying you put your car in your garage?

How very odd.

Well, it's either that or the 'nadoes will r u n n o f t with it. They're like nature's version of 'hood thugs.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 18, 2008, 12:19:34 PM
A garage would be nice. Let's hope that one of these days such a thing will be possible, with all the innovations in modern reality.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 18, 2008, 12:30:31 PM
Hmm. I've seen 'nadoes put cars atop houses, so, uh, yeah.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 18, 2008, 01:34:46 PM
I thought garages were for stuff, not cars.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 18, 2008, 01:44:02 PM
I thought garages were for stuff, not cars.

My brother is a strong believer in that. A 2-car garage, too.

Looks like the ending of "Citizen Kane."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 18, 2008, 02:57:44 PM
I want to clean out the garage. But to turn it into a workshop. The cars can stay on the driveway.

Besides, our garage was designed as a stable.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 18, 2008, 05:30:45 PM
Quote
the solitary worry I have over it is the cost of the gas-fired furnace running all day and night

I thought you had electric heat.  Running a gas furnace costs squat, by comparison.  Gas-fueled forced-air is pretty efficient.

Me?  I want radiant ceiling heat.  I've never seen such a thing, but installing a radiant floor system in the ceiling should be easier than installing it in the floor.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 18, 2008, 06:08:52 PM
WHILE CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY STILL
EXISTS WITH RESPECT TO LOCATION AND AMOUNT OF SNOWFALL...THERE IS
POTENTIAL FOR 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW ACROSS THE WATCH AREA BETWEEN
EARLY SATURDAY MORNING AND SATURDAY EVENING.


 :shock:

Twice in one week!

1 to 3 inches down here is like 1 to 3 feet to you Yanks.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 18, 2008, 08:25:11 PM
Cripes!  Write us when y'all dig out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 18, 2008, 09:08:23 PM
It should be utter pandemonium. It's going to be ridiculously cold on Sunday morning, and I'm wondering if it's going to thaw or not. It may be around for more than a day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 18, 2008, 09:37:48 PM
Holy crap! Thirty-FOUR degrees in the South. I hope everyone stays home!

A lot of it should melt away by the next day, if it's going to be clear and well above freezing again.

/witch doctor prediction skillz
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 18, 2008, 10:08:54 PM
Quote
the solitary worry I have over it is the cost of the gas-fired furnace running all day and night

I thought you had electric heat.  Running a gas furnace costs squat, by comparison.  Gas-fueled forced-air is pretty efficient.

Me?  I want radiant ceiling heat.  I've never seen such a thing, but installing a radiant floor system in the ceiling should be easier than installing it in the floor.

Electric is way cheaper in Kentucky. Gas heat is $300+ a month here. And no, we don't keep the stat at 80 degrees. It's at 70.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 18, 2008, 10:20:40 PM
:shock:  Retarded!

Well, electric, here, would easily be $500 a month for this house, maybe a lot more.  At 68, not 70, too, but we have fluffy cats, not cavies.

Crap.  Well, good luck, and I hope it's sinnier than expected.


edit:  Sunnier!

Well, heat is heat.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 18, 2008, 10:30:03 PM
Holy crap! Thirty-FOUR degrees in the South. I hope everyone stays home!

A lot of it should melt away by the next day, if it's going to be clear and well above freezing again.

/witch doctor prediction skillz

Yeah,  most of it probably will melt.

Now the weather guy on tv is saying 3 to 5 inches. Awesome  :thumbsup:

I wish I had some boots. I'm going to have to get out in it and take some pics on Sunday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 18, 2008, 11:02:11 PM
I thought garages were for stuff, not cars.

We've got a carport, which also keeps the ice off the windshield. Problem: It's packed with stuff, which makes our fussy retired neighbors crazy. Except they all park their cars in front of their garages, because there's so shit packed inside them.

Unfortunately we don't have any good way to to put a garage door on it. Our driveway curves about 90 degrees into the carport, which partly covers the giant front window. Weird design.  :nuts:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 18, 2008, 11:47:53 PM
:shock:  Retarded!

Well, electric, here, would easily be $500 a month for this house, maybe a lot more.  At 68, not 70, too, but we have fluffy cats, not cavies.

Crap.  Well, good luck, and I hope it's sinnier than expected.


edit:  Sunnier!

Well, heat is heat.

Ahhh, but think about it. All those coal-fired plants poisoning the Northeast with acid rain and other nasty shit? Yeah.... that's us. The coal plant electricity is cheaper than LP gas.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 18, 2008, 11:53:32 PM
Tonight's low - 45.
*puts an extra blanket on the bed*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 19, 2008, 10:44:36 AM
Yah, citygas beats LP.  Hey, there's always geothermal heat, if you're just willing to dig.

Today's one of those OMG IT'S SO SUNNY and then OMG LOOK AT THAT SNOW and then HOLY CRAP THAT'S WINDY strobe sort of days.  It's 10 F (-8 C), windchill of -8 F (-21 C), and I'm not expecting a lot of foot traffic here at the store . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 19, 2008, 12:50:27 PM
Have I mentioned it's cold?

I want to go to the grocery store and do some cooking, but I'm not entirely sure my car would start in this shit.

It just got above 0F, now it's 1F (wind chill is still -20F though). I just put some duct tape (it's white, oh-so-classy) on the bottom of my sliding-glass door frame. It's sitting on top of concrete and I'm not sure there's any sort of insulation. I could actually feel a draft.

*wraps self in blankets, cat, lays on new sofa*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 19, 2008, 01:16:54 PM
It's 22F here.

Quote
This Afternoon: Partly sunny and cold, with a high near 24. Wind chill values as low as -1. Northwest wind between 16 and 18 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph.

Tonight: Mostly clear, with a low around 7. Wind chill values as low as -5. Northwest wind between 7 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph.


That doesn't impress me. However, it might keep a lot of the locals home.  :hmm: Maybe I should get my shopping done today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 19, 2008, 06:21:45 PM
It's like 35 here. Most of the snow is already melted  :whatever:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 19, 2008, 08:18:54 PM
BLINKING TEXT AND A TWO PENGUIN ALERT
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/crnews/display_story.php?wfo=lmk&storyid=12352&source=0
REPEAT, A TWO PENGUIN ALERT
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 19, 2008, 08:31:56 PM
:galm: :rollin: :galm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 19, 2008, 09:13:33 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 19, 2008, 10:54:22 PM
And wouldn't it make more sense to make the [blink]important[/blink] word blink?

Oy.  As it is, it seems to say Cold -- VERY TONIGHT
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 19, 2008, 11:01:04 PM
Maybe the machinery is already frozen. At any rate, I think we're at an 1/8th of a penguin here...

That mysterious hovering 39 degrees we always get.

It's like 99 cent coffee. At least make it 40.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 20, 2008, 01:53:24 AM
Quote
TWO PENGUIN ALERT

*runs screaming from computer*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on January 20, 2008, 01:19:38 PM
It's -22 here and I have just been evicted from our apartment so Carrie can host an alumni meeting. I don't own a car, so it looks like I'll be spending 3 hours in the mall nearby with all the other hobos.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 21, 2008, 02:50:11 PM
Your sign could read: "<alumni assoc.> evicted me. Free to a good home."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 21, 2008, 03:17:32 PM
We must have reached Full Penguin Status(tm) this morning...26 is chilly practically anywhere...

Bonus: I didn't really need to wear the scarf I couldn't find anyway...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 21, 2008, 03:56:49 PM
It's -22 here and I have just been evicted from our apartment so Carrie can host an alumni meeting. I don't own a car, so it looks like I'll be spending 3 hours in the mall nearby with all the other hobos.

Dude. She wouldn't let you hide out in the bedroom or something? That's not very nice. (I would have said "that's not cool" but it looks like you had that part covered already.)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 21, 2008, 11:58:54 PM
Man.

I need to move somewheres where they don't gets no snows. Or at least, it snows only when *I* want it to.

You'd all be invited to stay at climate-controlled Loriland when I invent it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 22, 2008, 12:34:03 AM
raining now
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 22, 2008, 10:10:50 AM
NWS says Occasional snow showers.

It's been snowing since I got up this morning, and it's snowed a good .75" since I got to work.  Which means I'll have to go shovel the sidewalk in front of the store again pretty soon.

About ten minutes ago, it was snowing hard enough so that you could barely make out pedestrians across the street, although, in fairness, it's a wide street.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on January 22, 2008, 01:19:31 PM
10 degrees outside this morning.

A hated co-worker blew a tire and the boss hinted that I go pick up a new one for her and put in on her car.

Absolutely not.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 22, 2008, 03:41:39 PM
Snow slowly, steadily dumping since this AM, then when I went to get the kids from preschool it kicked it up a notch and it got a bit blizzardy...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 22, 2008, 08:06:47 PM
10 degrees outside this morning.

A hated co-worker blew a tire and the boss hinted that I go pick up a new one for her and put in on her car.

Absolutely not.

Tell your boss that's what AAA is for. In fact, all your boss really needs to do is ask around the office and see if anyone has AAA there. Then tell AAA they were carpooling to work. AAA will come fix the car you're in regardless of whether you're driving it or not.

And tell your co-worker that AAA might seem like an unnecessary expenditure, but if you use it only once in a year (which most people do), you still come out ahead of the deal.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on January 22, 2008, 08:30:08 PM
AAA was the first thing I asked her about, which of course, she doesn't have.

Since I live so close to the office and know this area well, I just gave her the name and address of a nearby tire shop that has a good reputation.  That's about as much as I was willing to get involved.

That co-worker's unbelievably dull, but still feels the need to yammer on about every minute aspect of her life.  Literally nonstop.  You don't say "Hi, how ya doin'?" when you walk past her desk because she'll answer that question, in detail, and you'll be stuck there forever.

You know when you're in a situation like that you wait for a pause and say "well, I better get back to work..."

There's no pause with her once she gets going!  I started just silently walking away from her while she's in mid-sentence, but lately she started following me with her tireless babble.  I've recently been finding sanctuary in the men's room though.

I can't deal with those types of people.  They make me want to die.

So anyway, yeah.  It was cold outside today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 22, 2008, 08:41:04 PM
...That co-worker's unbelievably dull, but still feels the need to yammer on about every minute aspect of her life.  Literally nonstop.  You don't say "Hi, how ya doin'?" when you walk past her desk because she'll answer that question, in detail, and you'll be stuck there forever...

Sounds like certain people in a certain thread number 1 at a certain site we know of...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 23, 2008, 10:23:35 AM
Quote
AAA will come fix the car you're in regardless of whether you're driving it or not.

If you're with the car.  They cover the person who has the membership, no matter what car they're in, but they don't cover a particular car, per se.  Unless they've changed it.

So:  You have AAA, and you loan someone your car, and the car breaks down.  AAA doesn't care.  You borrow someone else's car and it breaks down, AAA cares.  You're riding with someone else and their car breaks down, AAA cares.

AAA is definitely worth it -- you can also get discounts on all kinds of other things, frequently including car insurance -- but it's a first line of defense.  It depends on the tow company, what time of day it is, and how busy they are, but you can easily wind up waiting two hours for a AAA tow.  The drivers generally get paid quite a bit less for an AAA tow, so they're not too motivated and will tend to put you at the bottom of the list.

I've been out on quite a few AAA tows myself, and I've been towed on AAA's nickel.  I once had to wait FOREVER at a gas station in what is apparently the worst part of Indianapolis for a AAA tow -- seriously, we were at that gas station for something like ten hours -- but the tow wound up being free, except for the tip, and it would've cost hundreds otherwise.

My stupid AAA has currently lapsed.  I tried to renew, and they thought I was my brother and told me I couldn't renew because I'm still a member.  I haven't gotten back to them yet, so . . . knock on wood.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 23, 2008, 12:08:53 PM
Quote
If you're with the car.  They cover the person who has the membership, no matter what car they're in, but they don't cover a particular car, per se.  Unless they've changed it.

That's what I meant. The membership goes with you. So theoretically you could say you were a passenger in your (non AAA member) coworker's car, just to be a "nice" person and save them the towing cost. :innocent:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2008, 12:23:24 PM
Raining like stink. Creeks are up.

Wayyyyy up (http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?11120500).

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 23, 2008, 12:27:50 PM
It warmed up to 29 degrees. Had to cover the Port-a-P1g with a blanket until the car warmed up. By that time, we were turning into the vet's parking lot so I had to cover it again.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 23, 2008, 12:55:22 PM
I keep forgetting what the temperature is. Funny how it hovers around 25 degrees when it's really cold. That's near the water, though.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 23, 2008, 12:56:32 PM
Yeah it's cold here today too, it's only going to get up to 50
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 23, 2008, 12:59:51 PM
50's nice in the sun, but it gets old here in April when it doesn't go any higher.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 23, 2008, 01:05:55 PM
It feels really cold to me.  Especially in the mornings when it goes down into the 30s.  I'll be happy when our two months of rainy season is over and it's sunny and pleasant for the other 10 months or so.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2008, 01:48:02 PM
Oh dear:

Quote from: CHP
9:10AM   PER SLO - ALL 101 NB LNS CLOSED DUE TO A SEMI TK OVER A CLIFF
 9:16AM   PER 29-S5 - COPIES TRFC - ADVZING DOT IS ENRT FOR A HARD CLOSURE
 9:42AM   PER 29-S5 - THERE WILL BE INTERMITTENT CLOSURES OF BOTH NB LANES - ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS TIME TO RETRIEVE THE VEH
 9:43AM   PER 29-S5 - 154 IS NOT A RECOMMENDED ALTERNATE DUE TO HEAVY RAIN CONDITIONS AND POTENTIAL FOR ROCK AND MUD SLIDES
 9:52AM   SEVERAL VEHS STUCK IN SWIFT WATER SBSO, STATE PARKS , FIRE HANDLING

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 23, 2008, 01:50:31 PM
That reads like LOLCHP.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2008, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: LOLCHP
9:10AM   PER SLO - SEMI TK OVER CLIFF LOL - I CAN HAS LANE CLOZURE?
 9:16AM   PER 29-S5 - ADVZING DOT - IS RELEVANT TO MY INTERESTS - O HAI I FIX IT
 9:42AM   PER 29-S5 - SERIOUS TOWTRUCK IS SERIOUS
 9:43AM   PER 29-S5 - 154 NOT YOURS - LOLMUDSLIDE
 9:52AM   I HAS FLUD SEVERAL VEHS STUCK IN SWIFT WATER ONOZ HALP SHERIFFZ RANGRZ FIRECATS
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 23, 2008, 01:58:02 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 23, 2008, 02:16:51 PM
:clap: for the LOLCHP
:thumbsdn: for the accident
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2008, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: CHP
NB US 101 AT STORKE RD: 10:49AM   FLOODING IN #1 AND #2 LN

Quote from: LOLCHP

NB US 101 AT STORKE RD: 10:49 AM INVISIBLE FREEWAY
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2008, 02:25:01 PM
THE LIGHTNING. I HAS IT

Also, this might be goodbye. There is a tree banging against the building

(http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/01/funny-pictures-cute-kittens-cage.jpg) (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/14/funny-pictures-run-they-r-coming/)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 23, 2008, 02:32:58 PM
Quick! Get out!

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/2003599083465010816_rs.jpg) (http://icanhascheezburger.com)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 23, 2008, 02:46:02 PM
 :whatever: None of this stuff happens in Cali-forn-ya.

You're all just...swimming pools...and movie stars...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2008, 02:47:55 PM
Well, that was fun.

What's amazing is that I can see the airport runway from my office, right? Well, during the height of the squall there I couldn't see a damn thing, but I could hear three planes landing. Ballsy.

Oh and Santa Barbara airport has no jetways, you have to walk to the terminal. LOLDAMPTRAVELERS
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 23, 2008, 03:25:53 PM
I hate flying. Flying wet is even worse.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 23, 2008, 03:50:41 PM
Better than flying blind.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 23, 2008, 05:33:52 PM
Flying makes my arms tired.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 23, 2008, 05:35:25 PM
*rimshot*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 23, 2008, 05:38:04 PM
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 23, 2008, 05:44:12 PM
:hisey:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 23, 2008, 06:05:24 PM
Ok, the LOLCHP made me ... LOL.

Not making me LOL, however, is the fact that the roads are fucking nasty and snowy and WHY DONT THEY PLOW THEM ALREADY and I have to leave my nice sort of warm apartment and go to kommunity kollidge and I forgot to change back into my snowboots before I left work. Sunuva!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 23, 2008, 08:07:44 PM
LOLCHP rox my sox.

Today everyone had shovelled their sidewalks after the snow dumping we got yesterday - except the two rental houses next to each other further down my street. Pisses me off. It's a bylaw here you have to shovel the walk in front of your house in the city within 24 hours of snow. They're the only ones that don't do it ever, I don't know if the landlord is lazy, or if the tenants are supposed to and don't (I'd tend to think it's a landlord issue), but whateverthefuck, it drives me batshit because I have to walk the kids to preschool three times a week and trying to push the baby's stroller through that is a bitch and a half. Someone is shovelling there since their walk is always cleared. They need to bite it and just clean off their frickin sidewalk already.

rant over.

Oh and it was snow everywhere and cold but sunny sunny today which means I need sunglasses or the glare kills me. Can't find sunglasses ARGH

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 23, 2008, 08:30:52 PM
No sunglasses on a snow day is like a never ending ice cream headache.  :thumbsdn:

And people who don't shovel the sidewalk? Get someone to fall and feign injury in front of their house. And start screaming at the top of their lungs. This is the kind of thing I think of doing in retrospect, so it never gets implemented.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2008, 09:24:58 PM
SNOMFG
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 23, 2008, 10:35:43 PM
(http://members.cox.net/sargasso6/DSCN1814.JPG)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 24, 2008, 12:58:10 PM
Quote from: National Weather Cervix

NOUS46 KLOX 241247
 PNSLOX
 
 PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
 430 AM PST THU JAN 24 2008
 
 ...PRELIMINARY RAINFALL TOTALS...
 
 THE FOLLOWING ARE RAINFALL TOTALS IN INCHES
 FOR THIS RAIN EVENT THROUGH 400 AM THIS MORNING.

.SANTA BARBARA SOUTH COAST
 SANTA BARBARA AP (KSBA)........... 4.73
 MARIA YGNACIO RIDGE............... 3.66
 MT. CALVARY....................... 3.62
 SANTA BARBARA FC.................. 4.02
 CARPINTERIA FS.................... 3.23
 EDISON TRAIL...................... 4.65
 GOLETA FS #14..................... 4.57

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 24, 2008, 01:01:49 PM
And they're still running the radio ads that this is the driest year on record, so conserve water.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 24, 2008, 02:35:52 PM
I thought heavy rains weren't very helpful coz most of that water r u n n o f t down to the ocean instead of soaking in to the water table.  :hmm:  :confused:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 24, 2008, 02:36:48 PM
Read this morning in the Times that those 4+ inches are an all-time record for Santa Barbara.

Ok, the ten-year drought starts... now.

Oh wait it's raining.

Ok.... NOW!

Oops, rained again.

Ok.... it starts.... NOW! WE SWEAR TO GOD!

Huh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 24, 2008, 02:37:21 PM
I thought heavy rains weren't very helpful coz most of that water r u n n o f t down to the ocean instead of soaking in to the water table.  :hmm:  :confused:


Snow pack, baby. Snow pack.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 24, 2008, 02:42:24 PM
This was a real localized cell. North of the mountains -- where the reservoirs are -- it rained only about half as much.

But yeah, one whoppin storm doth not a drought relieve. Or even two. If this keeps up, though, won't be as much to worry about.

Need much mountain snow, tho. Much, much much. It's been real bad of late.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 24, 2008, 02:47:28 PM
Yeah, we're nowhere near out of the woods. I'm just happy it's not as bad as predicted. The prediction was for no rain at all, but it looks like we might end up with almost a normal season.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 24, 2008, 03:03:41 PM
 :hmm:

Ah HA!  http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/nsa/

The water equiv is handy.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/tools/edb/sbfinal.gif 

NOAA's magic 8 ball says yes. The long term image was kind of depressing though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 24, 2008, 03:06:19 PM
It's damper here in Michigan.

That was the runner-up state motto.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 24, 2008, 03:41:37 PM
Mount Hamilton and the ridge running north to the east of us has snow.  Beautiful sight while driving down 101 this morning.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: anvil_parachute on January 25, 2008, 03:47:26 AM
Saw a crawl on the bottom of the TV screen today indicating a tornado warning for parts of Los Angeles.  WTF?
Did get a bit of hail on the way to work this morning.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 25, 2008, 12:36:04 PM
So Malc, in light of the fairly rapid climate change happening worldwide, isn't long-term forecasting pretty much impossible? Last year's wet El Nino turned into the dryest year on record in SoCal, and this year's dry La Nina is maybe turning into a normal winter. If climate patterns are changing on a massive scale, then maybe the metrics used to make long-range predictions are totally useless, at least until things settle down a bit. No?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 25, 2008, 12:59:32 PM
Yes, definitely. Although I'm of the school of thought that thinks long range weather forecasts are kind of pointless, the system is too stochastic. They'll be "right" as often as climatology -- if the climate isn't changing, ha ha.

Although some of this is misconception. I saw a great talk by Joel Michaelsen (geography prof here) nearly twenty years ago now where he used historical records to challenge the perception that El Niño years are wetter. They're not, statistically. The big thing that changes in an El Niño is the distribution of precipitation in time. But nevertheless people and journalists (who, uh, may or may not be people) still have the "El Niño == more rain" thing stuck in their heads from 1981. In general it is not true.

Y'all would have loved this Baikal talk I saw the other day. Absolutely fascinating. Some really dedicated people at the State University in Irkutsk have been making high-quality measurements of things like surface temperature out there every two weeks since '42. The climate signals are fantastic. Once you pull out the climate change trends all sorts of great things are there: day length variability, NAO and Arctic Oscillation, it's fantastic. But the climate change trend is huge.

One thing people are looking at a lot now are climate-related discrete events. These tend to be objective and do not have the problems associated with long-term intercalibration of instruments. I read a great article in Smithsonian about how some New England botanists are comparing Thoreau's diaries to current conditions. He noted the dates on which particular flowers bloomed. Those dates are earlier now. A good one to look at in high latitudes is ice formation and breakup. These dates are converging: rivers and lakes are freezing up later and melting sooner. Interesting times.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 25, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
day length variability

Vas ist das?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 25, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
day length variability

Vas ist das?


What it says ;) Earth's rotational period is not constant. It rises and falls in response to (for the most part) changes in the mass distribution in the ocean and the atmosphere. Like a figure skater twirling, pulling arms in and speeding up, sticking arms out and slowing down. The mass doesn't change, but the distribution changes, and so by conservation of angular momentum, blablabla. The mass distribution of the atmosphere interacts with the earth's tilt and axial orientation, so there's a seasonal signal, etc., but the bottom line is changes in the climate change the spin rate of the earth. We're talking milliseconds here, but it's an objective measurement, and the record shows that changes in the length of day correlate well with changes in Baikal surface temperature if you smooth it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 25, 2008, 01:54:51 PM
You mean to say that people in the media believe and propagate lies?   :hmm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 25, 2008, 01:57:10 PM
Well. Some of them. There's this hot features editor at a small town newspaper up in the Pacific Northwest who might be okay. ;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 25, 2008, 01:59:04 PM
I did my part: WJD (http://www.worldjumpday.org/).

I bet it caused a ripple over on old Baikal.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 25, 2008, 02:07:03 PM
Well. Some of them. There's this hot features editor at a small town newspaper up in the Pacific Northwest who might be okay. ;)

Yeah, I think I know the one you're talking about.  Always an exception to the rule.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 25, 2008, 04:38:37 PM
I did my part: WJD (http://www.worldjumpday.org/).

I bet it caused a ripple over on old Baikal.


You ever been there? I heard there's a whiteknuckling train ride you can take...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 25, 2008, 05:20:37 PM
I think part of the trouble is that news isn't geared for a high school graduate (or higher). It's geared towards what, seventh grade or so? News is large, and complex, and interconnected. Science news, doubly so. But simplifying it is the name of the game, and when something is simplified you've taken away some of the data.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 25, 2008, 07:54:48 PM
I did my part: WJD (http://www.worldjumpday.org/).

I bet it caused a ripple over on old Baikal.


You ever been there? I heard there's a whiteknuckling train ride you can take...

It's on the short list of places to see before I die.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 25, 2008, 08:06:47 PM
A hell of a lot of journalists, for one reason or another, write articles on stuff they don't themselves know much about.  You generally can't read an AP article that's about something you know about without gritting your teeth.  It's not just oversimplified; it's also frequently wrong -- sometimes they know it's wrong and don't care, and sometimes they don't know if it's wrong but don't care.  I can be charitable and assume that sometimes they do care but don't have time to fix it. 

A few years ago, the standard AP blahblah about evolution included boilerplate claiming that evolution was the theory that the Earth was millions of years old.  They ran that bit constantly during the Kansas school board stupidity.  It made me want to cry.  Geez, how could so many people in Kansas think evolution was a crock?  Well, the fact that they read such dumb things about it probably didn't help.


Quote
I'm of the school of thought that thinks long range weather forecasts are kind of pointless

Strewth.  With complex systems, there's always a limit to how closely you can forecast it.  The further down the road your prediction is for, the less precise you can be.  I mean, it'll be warmer this summer than it was this winter (in the northern hemisphere).  Around here, it'll probably rain more in June than in July.  The same will probably be true next year.  But even the Farmer's Almanac level of guessing is, yeah, guessing.

The Earth's rotational period also varies with gravitational effects from the moon and sun, which can get complicated but mostly boil down to:

- The Earth's rotation slowly slows down, and the moon slowly moves further away.
- The Earth's rotation slowly slow down, and the Earth slowly moves away from the sun.

Eventually, the Earth will be 'tidally locked' to the sun, meaning that one face of the Earth will always face the sun.  Or maybe the sun will bloat up and eat us before then; I don't know which will come first.  The moon is mostly tidally locked to the Earth by now, which is why there's a 'dark side' -- ie, why roughly one side of the moon (actually about 65% of it, I think) always faces us down here.  Didn't used to be that way.

If you're wondering where the momentum goes to, it gets used up in the tides.  (Yeah, the sun's gravity actually measureably affects the tides down here.)  The landmasses (and the atmosphere) move in response to tidal forces, too, but it's a lot less noticeable than the water.  Sloshing all that water around uses up a lot of energy.

If you went back in time 500 million years, you'd be a little surprised at how short the day was, but mostly you'd be awestruck by how frickin' big the moon was . . . .

It's a weird, weird coincidence that, in the time of our species, the sun and moon are almost identical in size as seen from here.  That's just timing; it wasn't as close for the dinosaurs.  Big help to early astronomers and priests, though.  A hundred million years from now, a good solar eclipse still won't blot out the sun nearly as well, and there will be more lunar eclipses.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 26, 2008, 01:38:19 AM
FRZL DRZL BIZZLS!

Thru tomorrow night. I guess that means tomorrow is stay in and  :bunf: day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 26, 2008, 09:53:22 AM
I'm no longer impressed by your forecasts unless there are penguins.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 26, 2008, 12:12:07 PM
I'm no longer impressed by your forecasts unless there are penguins.


Hahaaaaaaaa! They gave up and now it's just going to be cloudy today. If it's just going to be cloudy and 40 degrees, there will be no penguins.
Penguins = Winterwonderpocalypse.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 27, 2008, 01:52:34 AM
Whoa. At this rate Donald Fagen's gonna have to go back to Annandale.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 27, 2008, 07:35:51 AM
Ack! Not fair sneaking an earworm in this thread. Whoa no.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 27, 2008, 11:26:27 AM
We're seriously considering decamping for Mexico for a while.

Whoa no.

Guadalajara won't do.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 27, 2008, 01:45:04 PM
Quote
.OPENING UPPER WAVE CURRENTLY OFF THE CA COAST IS EXPECTED TO DEAMPLIFY WHILE RAPIDLY EJECTING NEWD FROM THE FOUR CORNERS REGION THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES.

Umm... if ya'll are going to eject on us later this week, you better buy dinner first.

 :harumph:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 27, 2008, 01:53:34 PM
And drinks. Lots of drinks.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 27, 2008, 02:23:23 PM
Quote
RAPIDLY EJECTING NEWD


 :huh:  Do they mean n00d?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 27, 2008, 02:50:00 PM
The newdists can't handle this weather so they're heading for Sedona.

Duh!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 27, 2008, 09:01:55 PM
Well, I did not think the girl could be so cruel.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 27, 2008, 11:36:58 PM
:smooch:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 28, 2008, 01:36:57 AM
;)

Mean of you to earworm though. That one is particularly sticky.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 28, 2008, 09:13:34 AM
I tried to warn ya.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 28, 2008, 09:48:52 AM
:hisey:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 28, 2008, 12:43:48 PM
Saxophones!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 28, 2008, 03:56:58 PM
And in other, more mundane non-Steely Dan-able news, in the four years I've been commuting to work, I fell off my bike TWICE and that was this morning.

Hey, the roads seemed clear enough. Just a little too cold, turns out.

Ow, my knee'n'shit...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 28, 2008, 04:05:37 PM
Only one solution to that: drink Scotch whisky all night long.

AND DIE BEHIND THE WHEEL
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 28, 2008, 05:27:23 PM
So call me Deacon Jamis Blue...

*Sax-o-pho....oh oh-ones...*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 28, 2008, 06:29:52 PM
Ok, you two cut it out. I've had Steely Dan stuck in my head for two days now.

I don't want to shoot no one.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 28, 2008, 06:35:28 PM
I don't think I've ever heard a Steely Dan song.

+1000 Earworm Immunity.

HA!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 28, 2008, 06:41:59 PM
What?!?

You must be reeling in the years.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on January 28, 2008, 07:01:25 PM
Towards the end of my tenure in Soviet Russia, a copy of Katy Lied came into my possession (through means too complicated and irrevocably lost in time to recount), and I really gave it an honest try but couldn't see its merit. At that time, if it didn't sound like Deep Purple, it made no musical sense to my ears. I wonder how I would like it now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 28, 2008, 07:11:38 PM
Countdown to Ecstasy is what caught my attention. At the time, its recording was way beyond almost everything out there. Their vinyl was like CD compared to eight track tape. That's the only album I have by them though. A lot of their other stuff, I don't care for.

/yoda
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 28, 2008, 07:34:59 PM
I remember hearing Ricky Don't Lose That Number on the way to Kindergarten class back in '72.  My best friend at the time was named Ricky, which probably is why I remember this.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 28, 2008, 08:30:18 PM
At that time, if it didn't sound like Deep Purple, it made no musical sense to my ears.

I got in a major (dude) fight with my high school English teacher about whether Steely Dan was any good or not. I think he's still pissed at me, but some time I'm going to write to him and tell him he was right. The age does make a difference. This is (after all) the age of the expanding man ...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 28, 2008, 08:58:08 PM
So which side were you on?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 28, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
I can only enjoy Steely Dan ironically.  It's not that there isn't talent there, but they just always seem like they're putting you on.  I mean, even the name. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 28, 2008, 09:49:26 PM
Oh I hated Steely Dan. So mellow, and LA-ish. I mean, at the time, I listened to the Dead Kennedys and the Sex Pistols -- Zep, Deep Purple, and Jimi when I wanted classical music.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on January 28, 2008, 09:51:56 PM
Oh I hated Steely Dan. So mellow, and LA-ish. I mean, at the time, I listened to the Dead Kennedys and the Sex Pistols -- Zep, Deep Purple, and Jimi when I wanted classical music.

'Skuse me while I kiss this guy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 28, 2008, 10:46:09 PM
I wonder how I would like it now.

That was pretty much the question that launched said needed curiosity. I didn't really care for them either until much later.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 29, 2008, 01:10:09 AM
I remember hearing Ricky Don't Lose That Number on the way to Kindergarten class back in '72.  My best friend at the time was named Ricky, which probably is why I remember this.

I kept thinking this was Phil Collins, not Steely Dan.  That's Billy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 29, 2008, 06:28:31 AM
Oh I hated Steely Dan. So mellow, and LA-ish. I mean, at the time, I listened to the Dead Kennedys and the Sex Pistols -- Zep, Deep Purple, and Jimi when I wanted classical music.

Heh. I'm talking early 70's. By the time the Dead Kennedys and the Sex Pistols rolled around, I hated bands like Steely Dan, The Doobie Brothers and the Eagles. But I loved Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Hendrix all the way through. Now, I'll occasionally listen to that one Steely Dan album, and there may exist one or two songs by teh Eagles and the Doobies that I might be caught tapping my foot to.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 29, 2008, 07:20:43 AM
I'm thinking about this as I'm getting ready to go to work, and I think I rather talk about this than go to work.

The 70's was a really unique time music-wise. In the early 70's, I wished I had been born earlier, so I could have been old enough to be at Woodstock and stuff like that, but looking back now, I'm glad that I lived through the era that I did. There were all these great bands with great recordings in the early 70's, and then most of those bands started to get kind of stale, and then these new bands started popping up with this new fresh sound. I remember reading a Time magazine cover story about punk, thinking to myself, "what the hell are they thinking?" In hindsight, the author of that article didn't get it at all. I'd love to have a copy of that magazine now. Axe, do you have a copy of that in the basement?

As I found myself starting to get into this new music, I started reading interviews with the musicians where they were bashing the established music scene, and some of what I considered my favorite bands. So I started looking at what I had been listening to in a different way. Some people at the time would have nothing to do with anything new and would only listen to the "classic bands", others dropped the old stuff like a hot potato and ran strictly with the new stuff. I personally chose to take a little of both worlds.

Feh. You guys know all this stuff. I guess what I'm saying is that it was unique in that there came a point where you were sort of pushed to choose sides and re-examine your taste, which I think was a really good thing. I haven't seen anything like that happen since, but maybe I'm blinded from my point of view. I guess that same sort of thing could be going on with all that crazy stuff First Post listens to  :P

And the weather today? Windy. Seriously.  :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 29, 2008, 09:37:11 AM
Not like Steely Dan?  That doesn't even compute.  "Rikki..." is probably my least favorite SD song.  "Kid Charlemagne", the already-quoted "Don't Take Me Alive", "Dirty Work"...some of my favorites.  Plus they are far more varied stylistically than most people give them credit for - check out "Haitian Divorce".

Of course, they had me at "fine Columbian".
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 29, 2008, 10:19:35 AM
To reiterate: I didn't like Steely Dan ... in 1981. Now I think they're wonderful and always have been.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 29, 2008, 11:36:01 AM


And the weather today? Windy. Seriously.  :P

It was an ordeal, I'm telling you. Yesterday: bike skating
Today: Off-site wind tunnel. Man. And then I'd get to an intersection downtown and the wind would gust and threaten to knock me sideways. I know it was having a lovely time doing this, I'm sure...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 29, 2008, 11:43:44 AM
Quote
A cold front will barrel into southern Indiana and central Kentucky this evening.  Ahead of the front showers and a few thunderstorms will be found with south winds of 15 to 25 mph and gusts to 35 mph.

As the front is crossing the region between 6pm and 11pm this evening a line of thunderstorms is expected to break out right along the front.  These storms will be capable of producing damaging wind gusts over 60 mph.

Immediately behind the front west winds will kick in at speeds of 25 to 35 mph with gusts to near 50 mph, even after the thunderstorms have passed by.  These west winds will last for two to four hours, and will pull temperatures down twenty degrees.

Then late tonight as cold air pours into the region, we will see a brief period of flurries or scattered snow showers.  However little if any accumulation is expected.

By tomorrow morning we can expect a few slick spots on the roads due to the overnight light snow and wet roadways from this evening’s rain.  Wind chills will be in the single digits on your way in to work or school tomorrow

No penguins issued, so I'm not worried. Also, that's a 5 hour span there. How does that constitute "barreling?" Our apple snail barrels faster than that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 29, 2008, 01:52:48 PM
Heh, I always liked Steely Dan, but they never were one of my favorite bands.  I only own A Decade Of Steely Dan and Two Against Nature on CD.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 29, 2008, 06:03:17 PM
Dude we got a snowpocalypse warning.

A STRONG ARCTIC COLD FRONT WILL BLAST THROUGH NORTHEAST ILLINOIS
THIS AFTERNOON CAUSING TEMPERATURES TO PLUNGE 20
DEGREES IN A MATTER OF MINUTES!!111ZOMG
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS... SOME WITH HEAVY DOWNPOURS AND SMALL HAIL...WILL
AFFECT MAINLY THE SOUTH SUBURBS AND NORTHWEST INDIANA. SNOW AND
BLOWING SNOW WILL MOVE INTO THE CHICAGO METRO AREA THIS EVENING.
RUSH HOUR TRAVEL WILL BECOME HAZARDOUS.

(my emphasis added)

they've since taken that down off the NWS for my city but it still sounds ominous. Right now it's 35F, an hour ago it was 49F, and it should be 10F in 4 hours. Excellent.

I have class tonight until 10:30. wish me luck in like, not dying while trying to drive.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 29, 2008, 06:40:18 PM
*sends warm karma*

It's 61 degrees here right now. I was just outside grilling pork chops and it's lovely out there. There's some heavy stuff on the way, but it's great right now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 29, 2008, 06:49:28 PM
Oh, right, the weather.  Um, it was 46 F here today, will be 9 F tonight, and the high tomorrow is supposed to be 16 F.  We'll see if we get any snow to speak of.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 29, 2008, 06:52:12 PM
It's cool. Steely Dan is fabulous weather production music. Just read the forecast over one of the instrumental breaks and "hit the post" before it goes back into the vocals again...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on January 29, 2008, 07:35:53 PM
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   INTENSE...FAST MOVING SQUALL LINE IS RACING EWD ACROSS THE OH VALLEY
   AT ROUGHLY 50KT WHILE DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 80 MPH HAVE BEEN
   NOTED ALONG THIS LINE.  DESPITE MEAGER INSTABILITY...SHARP FRONTAL
   CIRCULATION APPEARS TO BE COMPENSATING FOR WEAK BUOYANCY.  STRONGEST
   SURGE WILL OCCUR ALONG THE OH RIVER INTO ERN PORTIONS OF IND OVER
   THE NEXT FEW HOURS AS MID LEVEL SPEED MAX IN EXCESS OF 100KT EJECTS
   ACROSS THIS REGION.  NEEDLESS TO SAY...DAMAGING WINDS WILL CONTINUE
   ALONG THIS SQUALL LINE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS.  SEVERE
   THUNDERSTORM WATCH WILL BE REQUIRED DOWNSTREAM SHORTLY AS LEADING
   EDGE OF CONVECTION SHOULD MOVE EAST OF ONGOING WATCH BY 02Z.

Yeah. We're in the path of that. Looks like I need to get some veggies chopped up for the p1g-evac bins.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 29, 2008, 09:35:35 PM
Right now it's 3 C but it's supposed to go down to -12 C (with wind chill -23!!) overnight and with winds up to 45 km/hr by morning. Yikes! It's going to ice up like a mofo - it's all slush out there from the warmth today melting everything.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 29, 2008, 10:22:53 PM
So I got out of lab a lot earlier than I thought.

I left school and it was snowing horizontally. The temp was down to 10F, winds were 25mph with 32 mph gusts, and visibility was half a mile. I say it was likely less than half a mile where I was driving. Holy crap that was frightening.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 30, 2008, 08:35:31 AM
We got a dusting of snow, but it was too windy to sleep last night.  Seriously, I lived in Nebraska for a few years, but I've never seen it that windy since I left the coast.  We were getting 50 MPH winds and stronger gusts.  One medium branch fell on my car, but it seems to have just bounced off the roof rack.

Now it's 6 F (-14 C), with 30-40 MPH winds (50-65 KPH) and a wind chill of -16 (-27 C).  The forecast is listed as "Sunny and Breezy", so optimism isn't dead.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 30, 2008, 09:01:48 AM
We're supposed to have gusts up to 50 by mid-day.  Yard full o' kindling!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 30, 2008, 12:20:10 PM
(http://musicsojourn.com/AR/Prog/img/l/LedZeppelin/Zoso_300.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 31, 2008, 11:22:11 AM
So we're expecting another 3 feet of snow at Snoqualmie Pass. Everyone's freaking hard. The pass has been closed for almost two days and "they're" estimating that 700K an hour is lost in commerce.

It's just so unusual, "they're" saying...the biggest snowfall in 30 years...the biggest avalanche in 30 years...BILLIONS OF CUBIC FEET OF SNOW...

(http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20080129/450SnowPass4.jpg)

 :eyeroll:

I thought this was the PacNW where this kind of thing is the default setting. Mt. Baker usually earns the award for the most snowfall in a year. Hello? Pacific storms? La Nina? :soapbox:

Sorry, just a bit annoyed...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 01, 2008, 09:05:32 AM
Damn it.

We got enough snow last night to close all the schools around but my work is still open. My boss made me take work home last night in case I needed to stay home b/c of the nastiness. I know my parking lot is still a freaking mess, so I think Imma wait half a day to see if it's clearer.

In the meantime, I think maybe a nap is in order.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 01, 2008, 09:30:07 AM
Cool (http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_8137244?nclick_check=1).
(use bugmenot in case of login prompt)

Oh hell whatever. This is actually a good article: thorough and fact-filled, and no mention of celebrities with missing underwear. Presents the good news without making it look like the end of the story; presents the bad news without making it look like the end of the world. This author will never make it in the mainstream media if she keeps this kind of quality up.

Quote from: Mercury News
Above-average Sierra snowpack encourages water officials
By Julie Sevrens Lyons
Mercury News
Article Launched: 02/01/2008 01:36:30 AM PST

As state water experts Thursday donned backcountry skis and Gore-Tex vests to measure the snowpack near Highway 50 in the Sierra, they received some encouraging news: There's plenty of snow in Them Thar Hills!

What a difference a year makes.

After last year's bone-dry winter in which the Sierra had just 40 percent of its average annual snowpack - and local water agencies encouraged residents to start conserving - the newest tallies show the snowpack ranges from 115 percent to 123 percent of average for this time of year, depending upon the location. It's still too early to say whether the season will end up wet or dry, but state water officials are cautiously optimistic the state is not in a drought.

"It's a complete turnaround," said Don Strickland, a spokesman for the California Department of Water Resources. "Things are looking a lot better."

Indeed, a light snow was falling as workers measured the water content of the snowpack Thursday morning. And meteorologists say even more storms are on the way.

Workers have had a hard time taking all the state's planned snow measurements because some regions have so much fresh powder - the snow's water content level is three times what it was this time last year - that snowmobiles aren't able to reach those points, said Elissa Lynn, senior meteorologist for the Department of Water Resources.

"It's been a huge, productive, good month," she said.

But the state's reservoirs still have some catching up to do.

While the 10 reservoirs in Santa Clara County are now at an average of 60.5 percent of capacity, many of the state's largest reservoirs are languishing at just 30 to 40 percent of capacity - and are actually below where they were last January.

The snowpack is considered a crucial part of the state's water picture because as the snow starts to melt in the spring, much of the runoff drains into Northern California reservoirs, bolstering supplies as the state heads into the dry summer months.

Reservoirs might be lower than water officials would like, but they see the above-average snowpack figures as a "shot in the arm" to the state's water supply.

"It's never time to be a water hog," said Arthur Hinojosa, chief of the agency's hydrology branch. But, he added, the snowpack this year will most likely be sufficient for the state to avoid a "dire" water supply picture this summer.

Just a month ago, experts with the National Drought Mitigation Center in Lincoln, Neb., said the bulk of California was still experiencing a moderate to extreme drought. Now, most of Northern California isn't even considered "abnormally dry," the precursor to drought conditions.

But scientists said Thursday that might not hold true for the future because global warming is threatening the West's water supply.

Noting that temperatures in the Sierra have heated up by 1.7 degrees on average - with the snowpack dwindling by 20 percent over time - researchers with the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory said water flow in the West has decreased during the past 20 to 30 years. And they expect this to worsen as the region's thirsty population continues to grow.

A human-caused increase in greenhouse gases is behind this shift, the Lawrence Livermore researchers said in Thursday's online edition of Science Express. They expect that by 2040 most of the snowpack in the Sierra will melt before April 1 of each year because of the rising air temperatures, leading to flooding throughout the state as well as a shift in river flows. Runoff from the melting Sierra snowpack - considered the state's largest "reservoir" - will also likely be much lower.

"It really means you would have less water later on in the year - in the summer - when we really need it for agriculture and irrigation," said Ben Santer, one of the study's authors and a physicist at the lab.

Santer said the findings should serve as a wake-up call to officials that the water supply infrastructure desperately needs to be updated.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, state Republican lawmakers and U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., have proposed building new reservoirs. But those efforts have stalled in the state Legislature, where environmentalists and many Democratic leaders oppose them as harmful to the environment and a taxpayer giveaway to corporate farms.

Even now, with the good news from the Sierra snowpack, water officials caution against being too giddy.

To end the snow season with average totals, the state will need at least 4 or 5 more feet of snow to fall in the Sierra - and not melt before April 1.

"It's looking great right now," Strickland said. "But of course we're all keeping our toes and fingers crossed because you never know what Mother Nature might do. If the storms stop and the snow melts early, we could still be in a precarious situation."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 01, 2008, 10:52:37 AM
Cool.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 01, 2008, 11:29:37 AM
That article has the same positives we have, "they'll" all be touting what a wonderful snowpack we have this winter...and then they'll be crying about a drought next summer.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 01, 2008, 11:42:05 AM
We got almost five inches of snow last night, and we're supposed to get 4-8 inches today.  It should last through . . . tomorrow night.  Sunday's supposed to be mid-30s and sunny, and Monday and Tuesday are supposed to be in the 40s and raining.

My drive to work was entertaining, though.  Fortunately -- and what a difference this makes -- there was almost no one else on the road.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 01, 2008, 02:43:31 PM
In the middle of a big snowstorm. It's been coming down steady at least since I woke up this AM, probably since before that. They predicted up to 30 cm.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 01, 2008, 03:08:57 PM
Less than 30, cold wind and blowing snizzle. (ice/snow/drizzle combo) WTF? Is this Kenbraska now? The wind just keeps going and going. Ugh. They're predicting 60 degrees and boomers on Tuesday. Then the temp drops again. I think this is the longest abusive relationship I've ever sustained.
I'm a little concerned about the leaps and dives because if there's anything I really don't need is a rambunctious spring 'nadoe season. Are you thrrrrrreatening me? http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/threats/ Eeeep.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 03, 2008, 03:48:22 PM
Now they're just getting paranoid. Okay, so a couple of tornadoes popped out of the squall line, yelled "boo," and trashed the place. Now NOAA puts up a long bulletin about OHNOESWIND and this statement:

Quote
NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO REVIEW YOUR SEVERE WEATHER SAFETY
PLANS WITH YOUR FAMILY. KNOW HOW TO GET THE LATEST SEVERE WEATHER
WARNING INFORMATION AND KNOW WHAT TO DO IF A WARNING IS ISSUED FOR
YOUR COUNTY.

 :eyeroll:

I'll be sure to brief the five little Toto's in the l0ft.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 03, 2008, 04:15:01 PM
Don't tell'em too much, or they'll be hacking the Emergency Broadcast System.

Actually that would be funny. :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on February 03, 2008, 05:31:23 PM
How do you know they haven't already hacked the NWS?

Maybe that message is from them. They wanna know the plan so they can be prepared.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 03, 2008, 05:40:36 PM
It's probably a coded cry for help from workers. Somebody broke in and herded them all into the server room.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 04, 2008, 09:44:44 PM
It's 64 degrees right now.

Tomorrow, the nadoes come.

 :drunk:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 04, 2008, 09:56:39 PM
It's 64 degrees right now.

Tomorrow, the nadoes come.

 :drunk:

Beats the ice weasels.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 04, 2008, 09:59:41 PM
Fog is thick like pea soup.

Which, strangely, a lady in the office made a big pot of and brought in today....

 :hmm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 05, 2008, 12:06:24 AM
Rain, rain, go away, and quit making huge nasty piles of dirty slush...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 05, 2008, 01:23:51 AM
Quote
SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL CONTINUE THRU TUE NIGHT
   AND EVOLVE MORE INTO A SQUALL LINE WITH ENHANCED WIND DAMAGE
   POTENTIAL.


SAVING THROW! SAVING THROW!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 05, 2008, 02:14:24 AM
Just wear a lot of rubber.  Those bolts'll just bounce right off.

And in other news, we're expecting another 50 inches in the pass.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2230806833_1abac153aa.jpg)

WSDOT actually has a Flickr site (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot)...now that's cool.

edit: oo here's one right up your alley:

Avalanche control with HELI-BLASTING.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2217/2241616149_3a7fc249d9.jpg)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 06, 2008, 05:13:05 PM
Sleet and freezing rain this morning, then snow and fog all day.  Still snowing and supposed to snow until tomorrow.  Six to ten inches forecast, and about six inches so far.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on February 06, 2008, 05:45:56 PM
Anybody heard from Andrrhea today?

 :uncertain:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 06, 2008, 06:49:50 PM
We were fine. Bunch of rain, some wind, and tons of lightning. Other parts of Kentuckeh got mauled pretty hard.
 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 06, 2008, 07:20:52 PM
We got a buncha snow today. I worked from home because of it, and they ended up closing the office at 1. My college (the one where I had a test tonight!) closed at 2pm. I don't even know how to guess at how much snow we got, without going downstairs and actually outside of the building... most of what would've landed on my balcony blew away from the building. There have been people outside shoveling and plowing all day just to keep up with it, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 06, 2008, 10:40:55 PM
My drive home tonight was entertaining.  Basically, nobody plowed nothing, except for private driveways . . . where the plows left berms perpendicular to the lanes of traffic, right across the roadway.  I know I've complained about that before, but if you ask me, that's reckless endangerment.  If you leave a snow speed bump more than five inches high across the road, that's two years or twenty grand.  Suck it, assholes.

Anyhoo . . . three to four inches of snow all over the roads.  Hilarious.  My car will totally handle that at upto 30 MPH, though, all day and all night.  The problem is that, snowstorm or no, there was about half the usual amount of traffic, so it's all about dodging everyone else.  Twice, I had to drive partway into the intersection at a red light to avoid the moron behind me who didn't realize he'd need more time than usual to come to a stop.

There's no great way for me to get home in bad weather, but I thought that maybe the freakin' interstate would have been plowed at some point, so I got on the highway.  But no!  There was even more snow on the highway.  So much that you couldn't tell where the shoulder was; so much that it continually scraped the undercarriage of my car.  Fantastic.  Most of the traffic was doing about 35 MPH in the right lane, such as they could guess where it was, but a plucky 10% of congenital assholes was trying to pass in the left lane at about 60 MPH.  Mostly (you guessed it) pickup trucks and SUVs, but also one fun-loving guy driving a full semi.

I took the first exit I could . . . and the 18-wheeler had just gone off onto the shoulder, close enough up ahead that, as I went up the off ramp, I could see him grind to a stop and put his hazards on.  A bunch of the dumbasses who'd endangered and passed the sane drivers were stuck behind him, but so was everyone else who'd already gone past the exit.  Lots of people followed me off. 

It was still another half hour before I got home, but I got home.

We're supposed to get another four inches of snow tonight.  As long as I don't have to drive in traffic, it doesn't bother me, but, boy, am I looking forward to living three miles from work.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 08, 2008, 06:09:38 PM
I suspect the crazy weather will be similar for a lot of you folks, but still:

Saturday: Scattered snow showers, mainly before 1pm. Cloudy, with a temperature rising to near 35 by 8am, then falling to around 31 during the remainder of the day. Wind between 15 and 23 mph, with gusts as high as 32 mph.

Saturday Night: Snow showers likely with areas of blowing snow, mainly before 1am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 2. Wind chill values as low as -18. Windy, with a west wind between 31 and 36 mph, with gusts as high as 47 mph.

Sunday: Areas of blowing snow and scattered flurries. Mostly cloudy and cold, with a high near 7. Wind chill values as low as -24. Windy, with a west northwest wind between 32 and 37 mph, with gusts as high as 48 mph.

Sunday Night: Areas of blowing snow and a slight chance of flurries. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 2. West northwest wind between 11 and 18 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph.


Windy and cold, windy and cold.  Weekend fun, although I'll be inside for most of it, anyway.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on February 08, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
Tonight...Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s. Light and variable winds.

Saturday...Sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. West winds 5 to 15 mph.

Saturday Night...Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph.

Sunday...Sunny...windy. Highs in the lower 60s. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph.

Sunday Night...Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph.

 :D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 08, 2008, 07:53:20 PM
That's some serious extremage.

Man, if I walked into 60 degree weather, I'd probably start acting like a mad dog...or an Englishman.

Can't wait 'til May...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 09, 2008, 04:45:04 AM
50's and 30's for a week.
Long term forecasts tend to be crap here. (Too many variables.) As long as next week is 'nadoe-free, I'll have no complaints.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on February 09, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
77F in downtown LA. The ice cream trucks are playing their warped piped piper cadences.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on February 10, 2008, 07:32:10 PM
-25 today.

And I was out skiing.

 :nuts:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 10, 2008, 09:35:12 PM
Today's Hi temp: 1F.

I haven't left my apartment since I got home Friday night.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 10, 2008, 11:03:20 PM
"Let's leave Chicago ... to the Eskimos ..."
-- Randy Newman
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on February 10, 2008, 11:05:25 PM
"Let's leave Chicago ... to the Eskimos ..."
-- Randy Newman

Randy Newman also had a thing against short people, so I guess he and I are not BFF.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 11, 2008, 03:27:30 AM
It was around or just above 0 C for a couple days there, then WHOOSH it's dropped like a rock all through today. It's now -19 C, with wind chill -29 C. BRRRRRRRR it's freakin' cold. I can feel the cold pouring in through the cracks in the house. Next to the window is unbearable without being wrapped up in a blanket.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 11, 2008, 11:42:55 AM
"Let's leave Chicago ... to the Eskimos ..."
-- Randy Newman

Randy Newman also had a thing against short people, so I guess he and I are not BFF.

Practically everything Randy Newman has written is satire. He's making fun of the character in that song...:)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on February 11, 2008, 11:51:47 AM
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1393342547
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 11, 2008, 09:05:26 PM
The last two consecutive Tuesdays we were hiding during tornado warnings.

Tonight, this.



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Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 11, 2008, 10:55:20 PM
That's the thing about these burbclaves. Some joker is always putting sudsy detergent in the fountains.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on February 11, 2008, 11:47:47 PM
That's the thing about these burbclaves. Some joker is always putting sudsy detergent in the fountains.
So THAT'S where my laundry detergent got stolen to!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 12, 2008, 12:42:54 AM
Totally wasn't me.

Though it is getting progressively more difficult for me to prevent myself from writing "HA HA! Geese shit on your stupid-ass lawn!" in the snow. The frozen rain is turning it into awesome snowball snow.

Maybe I should sculpt a few dozen penises all over his lawn instead.

 :hmm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 12, 2008, 12:47:11 AM
That's the thing about these burbclaves. Some joker is always putting sudsy detergent in the fountains.

watson??

Sounds like a fraternity prank.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 12, 2008, 07:58:14 AM
We've had over 40" of snow so far this year, according to the paper.  We're allegedly getting 3-4" more inches today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 20, 2008, 02:07:55 PM
Quote
...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY MORNING
THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING...

MORE WINTRY WEATHER IS ON ITS WAY STARTING ON THURSDAY MORNING. THE
PRECIPITATION WILL MOST LIKELY START OUT AS SLEET OR SNOW AND TURN TO
FREEZING RAIN. THE FREEZING RAIN WILL START IN THE SOUTH AND THEN
SLOWLY WORK ITS WAY TO THE NORTH THROUGH THE EARLY AFTERNOON. ONCE
THE FREEZING RAIN PASSES...THEN LIGHT RAIN WILL CONTINUE. ON THURSDAY
AFTERNOON..THE FREEZING RAIN WILL STALL AROUND THE I 64 CORRIDOR AND
THEN START TO SLOWLY MOVE SOUTH AS THE EVENING PROGRESSES. THE
FREEZING RAIN WILL THEN START MOVING BACK NORTH ON FRIDAY MORNING AND
WILL BE ENDING BY MID MORNING ON FRIDAY. THE AREA THAT IS MOST
VULNERABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT FREEZING RAIN IS GENERALLY NORTH OF THE
MOUNTAIN PARKWAY. THE AREA NORTH OF I 64 HAS THE GREATEST POTENTIAL
FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATION...AS WELL AS FREEZING RAIN.

FRZDRZ OHNOEZ
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on February 20, 2008, 04:33:48 PM
Huge fire in downtown TO today. I imagine the weather being -16 didn't help the firefighters much.

http://torontoist.com/2008/02/phototo_queen_s.php

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on February 20, 2008, 06:02:28 PM
Hate freezing rain. Unless your power lines are underground. Then it's kind of pretty to see everything glazed. Freezing rain generally means power outage to me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 21, 2008, 11:08:13 AM
NOAA busted out the blinking text, so this is Serious Fucking Internet Business.

Current Conditions: Unknown Precip

 :nonplused:

Quote
FREEZING RAIN IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUE
OFF AND ON THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING. THERE MAY BE SOME SLEET AND A
PERIOD OF SNOW INITIALLY...BUT THE PREDOMINANT PRECIPITATION TYPE
SHOULD BE FREEZING RAIN. ICE ACCUMULATION COULD REACH ONE QUARTER
OF AN INCH IF NOT MORE...ESPECIALLY ON ELEVATED SURFACES. EVEN
THOUGH MANY ROAD SURFACES MAY HAVE BEEN TREATED...DANGEROUS
DRIVING CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED.

THE PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO TRANSITION OVER TO MAINLY LIGHT
RAIN FRIDAY MORNING AS TEMPERATURES RISE ABOVE 32 DEGREES.

AN ICE STORM WARNING MEANS AT LEAST ONE QUARTER INCH OF ICE IS
EXPECTED TO GLAZE EXPOSED SURFACES. ICE ACCUMULATIONS ON TREES
AND POWER LINES ALREADY STRESSED FROM THE LAST ICE...SLEET AND
SNOW STORM COULD QUICKLY LEAD TO POWER OUTAGES AND FALLING TREE
BRANCHES. REMEMBER...DO NOT APPROACH DOWNED POWER LINES. TRAVEL IS
NOT RECOMMENDED FROM LATE MORNING ON THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.

Time to bust out the car and go whip some shitties.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 21, 2008, 04:54:06 PM
Quote
PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOUISVILLE KY
425 PM EST THU FEB 21 2008

..TIME...   ...EVENT...      ...CITY LOCATION...     ...LAT.LON...
..DATE...   ....MAG....      ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
            ..REMARKS..

0425 PM     ICE STORM        5 E SHEPHERDSVILLE      37.99N 85.62W
02/21/2008                   BULLITT            KY   TRAINED SPOTTER

            0.2 INCHES OF ICE ACCUMULATION. INTERSTATE 65 CLOSED DUE
            TO ACCIDENTS.

Time to bust out the police scanner
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 22, 2008, 02:52:01 PM
All this week "they" were saying "rain" but it's been unbelievably kickass out there. Averaging the low 50s.

Have I been outside hardly once this week? Nope. Let's hope for today...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 22, 2008, 02:58:11 PM
We've been having rain every other day this week.  But it has been warm.  Today is a rainy day, which hopefully means tomorrow will be dry and sunny.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on February 27, 2008, 12:45:04 PM
Monday it was like 75 degrees and sunny.

Yesterday started with a line of thunderstorms that caused an estimated $10 million damages. Power was out all over the city and I had to shave and shower by candlelight.

Today I woke up to snow.

I'm scared to look at the forecast for tomorrow. Flaming hail maybe?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on February 27, 2008, 01:51:06 PM
We've been sunny and in the high 60s-low70s the past three days and it's supposed to continue through the weekend.  :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on February 27, 2008, 02:22:12 PM
What is this yellowface you talk of?
It's been raining and or snowing for weeks.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on February 27, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
It's the heating element of the Shake 'n' Bake oven over here...

It usually is stuck on "high".
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: unclejessie on March 02, 2008, 02:10:19 PM
It's officially springtime in the Rockies.
Yesterday's high - 73F
Today's high - 31F












Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 02, 2008, 02:49:19 PM
Wait, Spring has spiking fevers? No wonder it's such a sick time of year!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 02, 2008, 05:04:20 PM
We've been breaking records here, too. 61 yesterday.

I don't trust it. March will devour us all in icy shards. NOM NOM NOM NOM.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 02, 2008, 06:21:35 PM
It was like Spring here today. I got stuck in a couple of traffic jams and seriously considered turning on the a/c.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 03, 2008, 01:24:23 PM
Been in the 70s for over a week.  Rototilled the three garden plots in our backyard yesterday.  My hands are still vibrating.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 03, 2008, 05:44:27 PM
My hands are still vibrating.

Are you going to take advantage of that? :knotty:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 04, 2008, 12:03:19 AM
Last month, we averaged just under an inch of snow per day, which was almost a record. 

Today, it was 53 F when I got up.  By the time I got to work, it was 50 F and raining.  It was supposed (100% chance, according to NWS) to start snowing at 3 PM (at 40 F, which would've been interesting) and not stop until, uh, Saturday.  Instead, I haven't seen any snow yet, and it isn't even very cloudy out at the moment.

They're predicting nine inches of snow (not max, but just nine inches) by tomorrow midnight.  Well, we'll see.  They're claiming 100% chance of snow from tomorrow at sundown until Wednesday AM, and then more snow that night.  The icons for the week are just day and night snowflakes.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 04, 2008, 11:31:59 AM
Yesterday it got some degrees up over freezing, and sunny, enough that I had to run the cool air in the car while driving. Then it flipped over into gray splatting rain and everything melted enough that when the temp dropped last night it made the sidewalks and driveway a sheet of ice.

I'm SO ready for winter to be over plz.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 04, 2008, 11:33:41 AM
No snow so far.  It's sunny and 28 F. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on March 04, 2008, 11:35:33 AM
+11 yesterday
-3 today

wtf
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 04, 2008, 01:47:42 PM
The pool heater crapped out last night and the pool was only 78 degrees this morning.  All the adipose challenged people were whining.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 04, 2008, 05:56:50 PM
Yikes.

'Nadoe watches in VA and NC. Watch out for your cornholes, y'all.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 04, 2008, 07:29:19 PM
78 is warm for a lap pool (says the guy that used to work in a pool kept at 82 for teaching).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 04, 2008, 07:32:27 PM
Nowadays, 80 is pretty much the standard for competition pools, and the instructional/senior pools are kept around 86 or so.  People are wimps.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 04, 2008, 07:36:25 PM
Really? Man, am I out of it. Or my memory is failing. Or I'm out of it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 04, 2008, 07:40:33 PM
Red Cross I believe still recommends 78, but they've lost favor through the years.  Now USS, USMS, and FINA pretty much rule the roost.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 04, 2008, 07:59:03 PM
I remember trying to figure out if it was colder on deck or in the pool.

At least we got out of practices during lightning storms. (This is California - it happened once in three years.)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on March 04, 2008, 08:11:11 PM
Carrie's folks got a pool heater recently in the pool they've had for like 30 years. Now Carrie's sister won't even get in until it's 85. In a Toronto summer that thing will probably only naturally get up to like 70.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 04, 2008, 09:39:38 PM
In Vermont, my folks had a pool, which my dad added a heater to.  They also bought a cheapass solar-thermal cover for it (ie, a WHOPPING big sheet of bubble wrap), which, by itself, would make the pool almost blood-warm by the end of a sunny summer day. 

The pool heat was unnecessary during most of the summer but was awesome when the weather dropped to the 70s and 60s.  We'd go in the pool at dusk when the water was warmer than the air and watch the bats zoom around overhead.  The bugs liked the humid air over the pool, and the bats liked the bugs.  Fortunately, bats don't crap while flying.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on March 04, 2008, 10:58:14 PM
Fortunately, bats don't crap while flying.

I did not know that.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 04, 2008, 11:07:52 PM
That's one of those assumptions that's going to get someone in trouble some day.

Thermocline.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on March 05, 2008, 09:38:48 AM
We had 'nado watches through 3 AM - remind me to buy my next house with either a basement or at least ONE frikkin' interior room.

I actually did run the AC while driving through NC.  The display in my car kept saying it was only 62 out there, but it felt a whole lot like 70.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 05, 2008, 12:39:57 PM
OK . . . bats don't crap on me while they're flying, and they never crapped in the pool, either.  That's good enough for me.  According to the Boonshoft Museum of Discovery (never heard of it before, but google knows all), bats do crap while flying.  Makes sense, since it encourages plants to make nomnom fruit for the little buggers.

But, for all the wrongs bats have done me, they haven't actually crapped on me.  And, yes, I know what bat crap looks like.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 05, 2008, 02:40:10 PM
Crap of a bat
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 07, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
We're getting a "menacing snowstorm". I quote the weather network.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 07, 2008, 04:52:49 PM
I'm gonna rip off your head and snow down your neckhole!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 07, 2008, 05:32:22 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 07, 2008, 05:48:39 PM
10-14 inches of snow supposedly. Everyone panic.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 07, 2008, 05:54:05 PM
Yeah, there's even a chance down here. And it's currently 68 degrees.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 07, 2008, 06:13:02 PM
I'm not sure how to panic properly for snow. Do you still buy the store out of bread, milk, and toilet paper, or is there an updated list?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 07, 2008, 10:46:40 PM
I think it's just the old standbys.

It sleeted (slit?) for a little while. Now it's all blowy as the rest of it moves in from the south.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 08, 2008, 12:09:16 AM
Thundersnow

Many reports have come in of thundersnow in Louisville and surrounding counties this evening.  Also, NWS lightning detection networks have detected a few lightning strikes elsewhere in central Kentucky, mostly east of Interstate 65.
Thunder and lightning have also been observed in Bowling Green and around Lake Cumberland.
Snowfall rates up to two inches per hour will be possible in the areas of thundersnow this evening.


Huh. Still not as alarming as a two penguin alert.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on March 08, 2008, 01:18:15 AM
We're due for about 5" of snow tonight/tomorrow. Son of a bitch. And it's 14F out right now. Happy Daylight Saving Time weekend :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 08, 2008, 10:01:15 AM
We got sploofed on. My interpipes connection is slow, so it's taking forever to upload the pictures.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 08, 2008, 11:36:14 AM
It was dusting down steady last night, very lightly; it's been coming down heavier all morning and apparently it isn't even getting to the "good part" until late this afternoon. I'm a little scared, we literally have NOWHERE LEFT to put the shovelled snow once this supposed 30cm+ of dumping takes place. I should take a pic, there's like snow bunkers all down the sides of the street and in everyone's front yards, and getting out of my driveway is involves playing bumper snow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: vox8 on March 08, 2008, 12:51:42 PM
Snow.

On March 8th

In GA.

 :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 08, 2008, 02:05:45 PM
We have a few fat flakes puffing about, but nothing reaching the ground, even though it's like 25 F.  Every time I see MIDWEST BRACES FOR / DESTROYED BY STORM I expect that we'll get plastered, here, but often . . . not.

Thundersnow is exciting, but not as dangerous as the lightning sand.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 08, 2008, 04:43:41 PM
Partly cloudy and breezy, with a chance of kidnapping. Highs in the mid-seventies.


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Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 08, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
Oo... you've got an abduction front moving in from the south  :lol:

... I should take a pic, there's like snow bunkers all down the sides of the street and in everyone's front yards, and getting out of my driveway is involves playing bumper snow.

Yes, please!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on March 08, 2008, 06:14:31 PM
Snow.

On March 8th

In GA.

 :trance:

No kidding!  They showed it snowing at the race track.  Odd.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on March 08, 2008, 06:17:27 PM
We went to Carrie's parents today and did some housework while they're in Florida. I had to shovel out the front walkway of about a foot of snow that fell in the last 24 hours. After 4 hours of painting we left and another foot or so had fallen on the walkway that I had just cleared a few hours before.  :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 08, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
Dude. You could have blown your ass out. Shoveling is burly work.
I moved so much wet, heavy snow that my arms are aching now. Can't imagine the nightmare tomorrow will be. Ugh.


We went to Carrie's parents today and did some housework while they're in Florida. I had to shovel out the front walkway of about a foot of snow that fell in the last 24 hours. After 4 hours of painting we left and another foot or so had fallen on the walkway that I had just cleared a few hours before.  :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on March 08, 2008, 06:23:14 PM
The snow falling up here is lots of really light powder. Wish I was in ski country...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 08, 2008, 10:02:22 PM
If you have to shovel snow but are worried about your back (edit: or heart):  Get an offset-handle shovel.  I know these look stupid, but the advantage is that they let you put the blade on the ground without stooping over or having a too-long handle.  Keep your forward arm straight.  Don't shove the shovel forward harder than you need to.  Lift the snow by pushing down with your back arm, not by lifting with your front arm.  Move the shovel (no big twisting motions) and drop the snow if you can, rather than throwing it.  If you start to overheat and have to unbutton your coat, you're going too fast.  Switch which arm is the forward arm when you need to.

It's the low-impact way.  You won't have to stop to rest much, and it won't be as much slower as you might think.  (I know you're from Snow Country, Andrrhea, but I also know how gung-ho people can get when they only shovel snow a few times a year.)

The problem you folks in the not-so-much-snow zones have is that it's not worth buying a snowblower or hand-plow.  You got to keep some cheapass shovel around and then lug it out with a groan once a month.  That always sucks.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 08, 2008, 10:31:33 PM
I was pretty careful, and had to be coz of that blown out rotator cuff. I just sort of swooped at it, and let the forward motion carry it up in a graceful arc.

I also cheated and only did half the driveway. Enough back out of the garage, get a start from the road, and one track down the side. Then I drove down it and created a trench for the other wheel.

 


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Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 08, 2008, 10:38:09 PM
Yeah it's light lofty snow but there's a LOT of it. It's drifted all about as well. I went out to feed the upstairs tenant's cat and just the little path between my steps and hers had snow up over the tops of my snow boots (over the calf). I've never seen this much snow here; in Bflo yes, but not here. We really don't get THAT much. Again I'm wondering where will it all go when shovelled? What little I cleared off the steps I had nowhere to put! I did take pix. Also someone across the street has a snowblower and his sidewalk and driveway and neighbors' sidewalks are already cleared and I'm a little  :( looking at how crappy full of snow mine are.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on March 09, 2008, 11:41:03 AM
We have like the fucking Rolls Royce of shovels. It's a Canadian thing - and a necessity. Few people (except the stingiest bastards) use the old fashioned straight shovels.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 09, 2008, 12:56:46 PM
Ugh, kill me now. I went out and did an hour of pretty painful shovelling this AM. Normally I don't mind it too much, it's a decent workout, but this is just stupid amounts of snow. I only got the side path, my steps, other tenant's steps, and our sidewalk done in that time. The snow is piled up so high I have to like bend at the knees to heft the shovel up and dump the snow. When I got to the driveway I almost cried. It's snow almost up to my knees all behind and around our car, and where the hell am I going to put it?? The piles of snow in my yard next to the driveway and at the end of the driveway are five or six feet high at least already! I'll go back out and do it later. I felt seriously old and out of shape. The people next door snowblowed their sidewalk and I'm all sad and grumpy they didn't share.  :cry:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 09, 2008, 06:25:41 PM
I have a lot of Popular Mechanics and similar magazines from the 40s-70s, and most winters they had articles on DIY snow-removal whatnot.  Heated driveways aren't practical for everyone (although heated porch stairs might be a good idea for a lot of people), but what I really like is the trend in the 50s to make a snowplow about 2' high and 3' wide -- just a flat piece of thick plywood, often, with a metal scraper at the bottom -- and put a lawnmower engine and one big soft-tired wheel on the back.  The wheel is next to a skid (a short fat ski), and the wheel's driven by a belt.  To make the belt engage, you step on the skid.

So you basically angle the plow blade left or right, step on the skid, and let the thing drag you forward while you plow your driveway.  When you get to the end, you step off the skid, pivot the thing around, and go for another ride.

That would be the BOMB.  I'm not sure how it would handle more than maybe 6" of snow at a time, but I'd enjoy giving it a try.  The new place has alley access to two parking spaces and the garage in the back, though, and a setup like that is good for a longer driveway.

Nowadays, they sell big plastic one-wheel you-push-it-yourself snowplows, which I would also try.  Those let you pivot the thing on its axle (you push down on the back) to lift snow and move it around like a wheelbarrow, if you need to.  They're kind of expensive for a big piece of plastic on one wheel, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 09, 2008, 09:48:18 PM
Well I fell asleep for FOUR HOURS after I wrote my last comment. When I woke up (at 6 PM!) all achy and sore, I peeked out the window and the neighbor was shovelling out both his and our driveway. YAY! but he had nowhere to put the snow either! so now it's piled up to the porch windows in front of our house and a HUGE bumper snow obstacle at the end of our driveway that diverts all the traffic down the street around it. I had to go out tonight to the drugstore and I can only get the car out one way now. Also there was like two feet plus of snow piled on my windshield. Good lord.

After two big storms in less than a week, I don't think there will be more snow for a few days at least... it's supposed to stay pretty cold, I find the colder it is the less snow we get.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on March 10, 2008, 12:46:39 PM
Well I fell asleep for FOUR HOURS after I wrote my last comment. When I woke up (at 6 PM!) all achy and sore, I peeked out the window and the neighbor was shovelling out both his and our driveway. YAY! but he had nowhere to put the snow either! so now it's piled up to the porch windows in front of our house and a HUGE bumper snow obstacle at the end of our driveway that diverts all the traffic down the street around it. I had to go out tonight to the drugstore and I can only get the car out one way now. Also there was like two feet plus of snow piled on my windshield. Good lord.

After two big storms in less than a week, I don't think there will be more snow for a few days at least... it's supposed to stay pretty cold, I find the colder it is the less snow we get.

It's gonna snow in S. Ontario tomorrow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 10, 2008, 01:07:04 PM
It was in the mid 80s yesterday and it looks like more of the same today.  Hate being stuck at work.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on March 10, 2008, 01:15:09 PM
It was in the mid 80s yesterday and it looks like more of the same today.  Hate being stuck at work.

Well I hate you!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 10, 2008, 01:44:13 PM
Hate me too. Please? The air will be nearly 80, but if you sit in the sun you'll fry this afternoon. I am not sitting in my car at lunch today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 10, 2008, 04:47:36 PM
Sunny and low 30s today.  Supposed to be sunny and low 40s tomorrow.  Then sunny and mid-40s on Wednesday.  Then we get rain and snow, but still highs in the 40s.  I can live with that.

I'm hoping it'll be warm enough on Wednesday for me to seal the edge of the parking lot where it meets the exterior wall of our other shop.  That would cut down the flooding in the basement.  The contractor made many promises but, all in all, sucked.  Not sealing where the foundation meets the asphalt is bad enough, but he sloped the asphalt toward the building rather than toward the storm drain.  What a champ.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 10, 2008, 04:51:21 PM
Flooding basements?  Basements?  Sealing concrete?  This all just doesn't make any sense :galm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 10, 2008, 05:03:10 PM
It's gonna snow in S. Ontario tomorrow.

Says "trace of snow" and "flurries" and "chance of precip. = 40%".

This is my not-worried face. ;P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 10, 2008, 05:35:01 PM
The chilled water pipe broke two buildings away from us. Can you combine inertia with solar energy? I knew you could.

It's 84 is some offices.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 10, 2008, 06:12:08 PM
Wow for some reason I thought that meant that everything would get colder, especially within a radius of the breakage.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 10, 2008, 06:42:30 PM
Well, it's underground so the moles are ... damp.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 10, 2008, 06:43:08 PM
All 6.02~26 of them?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: sm0k4 on March 11, 2008, 06:06:00 AM
Spring has begun here. It'll get into the 60s all week and the daffodils have started blooming. It's my favorite part of my favorite season.  :love:

And yes, you all up in them northern parts can all start hating now. If you've still got snow on the ground no one can blame you.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on March 11, 2008, 07:16:24 AM
All 6.02~26 of them?

:lol:

God bless Avagadro.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 11, 2008, 10:07:42 AM
Gonna be 70 tomorrow. There's still quite a bit left, plus it's supposed to boomer towards the end of the week. I told the pigs to start building an ark.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on March 12, 2008, 02:35:07 PM
The moles' ark is coming along nicely. I think they knew who to ask about gopherwood in bulk.

I haven't asked how they're winnowing themselves down to two.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 14, 2008, 12:52:44 PM
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
953 PM PDT THU MAR 13 2008
CAZ034>041-044>047-051>054-059-087-088-150500-
953 PM PDT THU MAR 13 2008

...A RETURN OF WINTER LIKE WEATHER FOR THE SOUTHLAND THIS WEEKEND..

THE WARM AND DRY CONDITIONS THAT THE SOUTHLAND HAS EXPERIENCED
THIS PAST WEEK WILL COME TO AN ABRUPT END AS A COLD WEATHER SYSTEM
MOVES INTO THE REGION THIS WEEKEND. THE THREAT OF SHOWERS WILL BEGIN
ACROSS THE CENTRAL COAST ON SATURDAY MORNING...SPREADING SOUTH AND
EAST INTO THE LOS ANGELES BASIN SATURDAY AFTERNOON...AND
CONTINUING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. DUE TO THE COLD AND UNSTABLE
NATURE OF THIS STORM...THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT CHANCE OF
THUNDERSTORMS ALONG WITH THE STRONG POSSIBILITY OF SMALL HAIL.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO/vader
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 14, 2008, 04:21:14 PM
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
953 PM PDT THU MAR 13 2008
CAZ034>041-044>047-051>054-059-087-088-150500-
953 PM PDT THU MAR 13 2008

...A RETURN OF WINTER LIKE WEATHER FOR THE SOUTHLAND THIS WEEKEND..

THE WARM AND DRY CONDITIONS THAT THE SOUTHLAND HAS EXPERIENCED
THIS PAST WEEK WILL COME TO AN ABRUPT END AS A COLD WEATHER SYSTEM
MOVES INTO THE REGION THIS WEEKEND. THE THREAT OF SHOWERS WILL BEGIN
ACROSS THE CENTRAL COAST ON SATURDAY MORNING...SPREADING SOUTH AND
EAST INTO THE LOS ANGELES BASIN SATURDAY AFTERNOON...AND
CONTINUING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. DUE TO THE COLD AND UNSTABLE
NATURE OF THIS STORM...THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT CHANCE OF
THUNDERSTORMS ALONG WITH THE STRONG POSSIBILITY OF SMALL HAIL.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO/vader

I'd point and laugh but that crap will likely head our way, so I'll just sit here and enjoy a nice mug of STFU.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 14, 2008, 04:35:04 PM
Quote
...A RETURN OF WINTER LIKE WEATHER FOR THE SOUTHLAND THIS WEEKEND..

Southland? Is that term used very often over there?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 14, 2008, 04:41:52 PM
Well our state covers as much lattitude as like a brazilian of your states.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 14, 2008, 04:44:23 PM
Well yeah, it makes sense, it just sounds odd to me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on March 14, 2008, 04:46:17 PM
Well, we Californians do tend to be perceived as odd to the rest of y'alls.  :galm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 14, 2008, 04:51:13 PM
They do say "Southland" a lot. They usually mean everything south of Ventura and west of Riverside, more or less. There's some debate as to whether North Tijuana should be included.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 14, 2008, 04:53:43 PM
   
Well, we Californians do tend to be perceived as odd to the rest of y'alls.  :galm:

:lol: That's exactly why it sounds odd to me - I can't imagine a Californian referring to themselves as living in the Southland.

It just sounds so... uncool.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 14, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
When it's punctuated wrong like that, "Winter Like Weather" looks like an album name.

To me, anyway.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on March 14, 2008, 10:53:10 PM
PFFFFFFUT I got your "winter like weather" right here. *rude gesture*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 15, 2008, 06:28:29 AM
Tornaters hit downtown Atlanta last night. Hit the Georgia Dome while the SEC tournament was going on. Blew some cars around and hit the top of a loft apartment building. http://www.wsbtv.com/
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 15, 2008, 10:33:35 AM
PFFFFFFUT I got your "winter like weather" right here. *rude gesture*


 :lol: :lol: :lol: WERD!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 15, 2008, 10:36:04 AM
Tornaters hit downtown Atlanta last night. Hit the Georgia Dome while the SEC tournament was going on. Blew some cars around and hit the top of a loft apartment building. http://www.wsbtv.com/

I saw that on TWC. Yikes. The NWS reports said nothing about that system getting out of hand, but I guess things changed between the last time I looked and when the 'nado party started.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on March 15, 2008, 04:16:22 PM
Yeah, it's crazy. Small powerful cells have been passing through since last night - scattered all over the place. I think the local channels have been broadcasting weather all day. Those damn air raid sirens are what freak me out. I keep expecting to see Godzilla coming over the horizon.

From the Fark thread:

(http://amishrakefight.org/images/drought.jpg)

Quote
The Hard Rock Atlanta was hit and over $400 dollars of damage was done to a burger and side of fries.

hehehe
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 15, 2008, 05:27:51 PM
Holy crapotles, stay safe man.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 15, 2008, 07:03:51 PM
Yeah, tell Roland Emmerich to get the hell out of there and make a global warming movie somewhere else!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on March 15, 2008, 07:16:24 PM
We're having little t-storms and quite a bunch of wind. Lots of nice thunderheads around. I can't describe how unusual this is, except to say that we get on average one thunderstorm every five years or so.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on March 21, 2008, 11:41:30 AM
We're supposed to get 4-6 inches of snow today/tonight.  Seems Chicago got nailed with almost 10 inches of the heavy wet variety.

One last snowkite session before I head to FLA next week!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on March 21, 2008, 03:13:18 PM
It's 70 degrees out there. Wooot!

Won't last though, bleh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on March 21, 2008, 04:39:17 PM
Snow here didn't start until about 8am today.

It was snowing so hard they actually sent us home early. Of course it is Friday, and Good Friday at that...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: ivan on March 21, 2008, 04:57:47 PM
Predicting 80 and dry here on Sunday, so no cozy fireplace action for the oldsters during the Easter Feast.

Well, we got a lot more rain this season than predicted, but still not enough to get me sick of it and make me crave dry weather. Now we wait 9 months for it to maybe rain again.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on March 31, 2008, 03:29:15 PM
For the last two days it has snowed here, 3 inches the first morning, about half that yesterday. Then the sun comes out, melts it all, until nightfall, when all the runoff freezes.

This morning, it has been hailing for a solid hour, with pellets larger than marbles...which I cannot recall seeing here before. Now the sun is out again.

Glad I didn't plant anything important yet. :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on March 31, 2008, 03:39:55 PM
Wow!  It's fairly sunny here!  Not really warm, but at least all the snow melted.  We haven't had any hail in a few days.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 31, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
It's supposed to get sunnier and about ten degrees warmer in the next few days. Perfect weather for Orcas...:)

Saturday night it was snowing like hell in Mukilteo...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 02, 2008, 08:22:53 AM
Yesterday it was like 75, tonight it's supposed to be 30. WTFDC?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on April 02, 2008, 10:56:15 AM
Yesterday it was like 75, tonight it's supposed to be 30. WTFDC?

Don't like the weather?  Wait 5 minutes!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on April 02, 2008, 10:40:18 PM
It's raining. That helps my mood a bit.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 03, 2008, 11:14:54 PM
Overnight: Rain, mixing with snow after 2am. Low around 40. East northeast wind around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. Little or no snow accumulation expected.

 :huh:

The forecast for tomorrow is the same, except that it'll be warmer.  Let me tell ya, if it's in the mid-40s and it snows hard enough to pile up, you're in some kind of trouble.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on April 04, 2008, 06:11:15 AM
We're feeling the effects of a cold front that's coming from the east, and a warm wet front from the south, and a line of thunderstorms is approaching from the northwest. Yeah, this should be interesting.  :uncertain:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on April 04, 2008, 08:35:34 AM
I had slush falling from the sky yesterday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 05, 2008, 06:05:39 PM
Slush? I didn't see slush. Egads.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 05, 2008, 06:18:21 PM
Slush FUNDS. You're probably not going to see them, even if they DO fall from the sky...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 05, 2008, 06:28:54 PM
I just saved NASA $10 million. Will I see any of it? Noooooo ... wellokaymaybe.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on April 06, 2008, 08:38:29 AM
:worship:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on April 06, 2008, 09:23:53 AM
Saving two million doesn't even get you a plaque (that isn't recorded in your personnel file) around here. Still,  :love: from me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 06, 2008, 03:54:17 PM
Of course, what's 10 mil in NASA dollars? One tile off the space shuttle?

:bolt:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 06, 2008, 05:09:08 PM
With our gallows humor, we say it's one tile off the space shuttle or three whole years of science.

Actually it's not that damn inaccurate.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on April 12, 2008, 06:03:26 AM
Fucking frost warnings for next week  :angry:

This same shit happened last year. All the plants have got blooms and sensitive new growth, and this is likely to stunt everything. My Hydrangeas, and a few other plants, never even bloomed last year.

Argggggh!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Stoater on April 12, 2008, 09:18:55 AM
Yeah. I'm WTFing here as well. I just patched the frigging lawn. Now I'll have to go through the process again. At least the pond is deep enough so that the new pump won't get frozen. Wotta pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 15, 2008, 10:13:34 PM
La Nina...in full effect.

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
451 PM PDT TUE APR 15 2008

WAZ001-503>519-170000-
SAN JUAN COUNTY-WESTERN WHATCOM COUNTY-SOUTHWEST INTERIOR-
EAST PUGET SOUND LOWLANDS-WESTERN SKAGIT COUNTY-EVERETT AND VICINITY-
SEATTLE/BREMERTON AREA-TACOMA AREA-ADMIRALTY INLET AREA-
HOOD CANAL AREA-LOWER CHEHALIS VALLEY AREA-OLYMPICS-
EASTERN STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA-WESTERN STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA-
NORTH COAST-CENTRAL COAST-WEST SLOPES NORTHERN CASCADES AND PASSES-
WEST SLOPES CENTRAL CASCADES AND PASSES-
451 PM PDT TUE APR 15 2008

...AN UNSEASONABLY COLD STORM SYSTEM WILL AFFECT WESTERN WASHINGTON
THE END OF THIS WEEK..

A STRONG...COLD LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DROPPING SOUTH OUT OF CANADA
WILL USHER IN A COLDER AIR MASS THAT WILL RESULT IN UNSEASONABLY
COLD TEMPERATURES AND PLUMMETING SNOW LEVELS BY THIS WEEKEND.
DAYTIME TEMPERATURES ON FRIDAY WILL BE IN THE MID 40S TO LOWER 50S
ACROSS THE LOWLANDS AND IN THE UPPER 20S TO MID 30S IN THE CASCADE
PASSES. ON SATURDAY...DAYTIME TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE
WINTER LIKE. DAYTIME TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE LOWLANDS ABOUT THIS
TIME OF THE YEAR ARE NORMALLY IN THE MID 50S TO LOWER 60S.

THE SNOW LEVEL WILL ALSO PLUMMET TO NEAR SEA LEVEL LATE FRIDAY
NIGHT...THUS IT IS LIKELY THAT ANY SHOWERS OVER THE LOWLANDS WILL
CHANGE OVER TO SNOW OR A RAIN AND SNOW MIX. THE PRECIPITATION WILL
CHANGE BACK OVER TO RAIN DURING THE DAY SATURDAY. THE THREAT FOR
SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE ACROSS THE LOWLANDS LATE SATURDAY
NIGHT AND EARLY SUNDAY MORNING.


So yeah. The funny thing about living here 14 years? I can't recall whether this is usual or not. Seems like it doesn't really "warm up" here until June or July. There's always a teaser in April, though. It hit 79 in Seattle last weekend and it was probably ten degrees less or so up on yon Island. No matter. It was t-shirt and shorts up on the bluff. Fab. 8)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2417686334_e400e3d860.jpg)

But yeah, the next day:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2416865421_08811ba2e9.jpg)

Not as cold as it looks. It didn't stop this guy...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on April 19, 2008, 01:08:43 AM
There is 5 inches of snow in Everett, and 10 inches in Clearview -- and it's still snowing :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 19, 2008, 01:53:15 AM
Oh you convergence zone people get ALL the action...

I guess you could call it snow what hit here. Pretty weird. Usually it doesn't snow at all in town, the last few years have been quite different.

It was cold today, too. La Nina, baby. Snowing like hell east of the pass, too.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 19, 2008, 07:33:24 AM
It's gonna be like 75 F here, but we may get a thunderstorm.  I don't know how warm it was yesterday -- the banks' thermometers were all claiming the low 80s, but I think they were getting too much sun.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on April 19, 2008, 10:12:36 AM
The weather yesterday was awesome for the Cubs game I went to.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 19, 2008, 05:01:08 PM
75 and t-storms would kick so much ass right now...

And I'm not a ball fan, but I wouldn't mind going to a Cubs game just to say I did...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on April 29, 2008, 11:44:37 AM
In the 40's and shitty rainy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 01, 2008, 04:34:04 PM
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AN APPROACHING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO CREATE GUSTY
SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST WINDS. SUSTAINED WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH WILL BE
LIKELY...WITH GUSTS OF AROUND 35 MPH. THIS MAY CAUSE SOME SMALL
LIMBS TO BLOW DOWN AND SOME LOOSE ITEMS SUCH AS GARBAGE CANS.

Glad we don't live near a garbage can tree. That shit sounds dangerous.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on May 01, 2008, 08:17:34 PM
They preempted Earl, Scrubs, The Office, and I'm guessing the upcoming 30 Rock on my local NBC affiliate tonight thanks to local news coverage of a tornado party.

The sirens keep going off and everything.  How distracting!  I've got shows to watch!

:thumbsdn:


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on May 02, 2008, 12:39:45 AM
I feel ya. 

Quit cutting the sound for 2 minutes at a time you muppets.  And if I wanted to interrupt the show with a forecaster, I'd flip to the Weather Channel. 

Just run a scroll across the bottom of my screen.  When I hear the freight train a'comin', I'll run.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 02, 2008, 07:17:18 AM
They've been predicting thunderstorms here by day and night for like five days.  So far, nothing.  Today, allegedly an 80% chance.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on May 02, 2008, 10:34:54 AM
They're here right now, so you'll see them soon.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 02, 2008, 02:16:54 PM
Some rain and a few rumbles. Pretty meh.

Got the people at Churchill Downs running for their lives tho.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on May 02, 2008, 02:42:49 PM
That's what they get for living on/in an oxymoron.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 02, 2008, 07:09:01 PM
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Some rain and a few rumbles. Pretty meh.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on May 02, 2008, 07:23:20 PM
http://explosm.net/comics/1261/


Relevant.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 02, 2008, 11:02:44 PM
That's what they get for living on/in an oxymoron.

More like a polymoron. Jesus Christ. 264 was screwed today because people on 'ludes should not drive.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 03, 2008, 04:54:58 AM
Wave after wave of the meteorological version of a crapflood. Woke me up every hour. Bleh.

 :sleeping:
 :shock:
 :sleeping:
 :shock:
 :sleeping:
 :shock:
 :angry:
 :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 03, 2008, 06:30:52 AM
Still nothing here.  60 F, humid, allegedly it will rain this afternoon.  It only rained enough yesterday to make things damp, although it was pretty windy at times.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on May 03, 2008, 03:19:10 PM
Gray and rainy here, but warmer than it's been the past week.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 03, 2008, 03:34:05 PM
60 and humid would be nice. It hasn't cracked that temperature threshold much here. Not so grey,  so I figured it was time for another mid-week getaway.

It was nice enough on Orcas Island Thursday to wear shorts for the very first time this year.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/2460265033_aeee7dd821.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on May 05, 2008, 01:38:50 PM
w00t it's sunny and almost summer-like again. V. happy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Wintermute on May 05, 2008, 11:05:46 PM
w00t it's sunny and almost summer-like again. V. happy.

I know, it's hard to believe it was snowing here a week ago.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on May 11, 2008, 08:59:13 PM
Been a little windy down here. I mean, damn. That was a hell of a system. Coming back from my mom's, I passed through Macon, and there was an area about one mile along the interstate where all the exit signs were blown down, and the big tall signs (like hotel signs, etc.) that they have along the interstate so that you can see the sign from like 5 miles away were all fucked up. There was one that looked like it was folded in half. Driving back was more like driving a boat in rough waters. The main front of the system passed through this morning at like 5am. We had a bunch of relatives over for mom's day, so we all went out and picked up all the branches and leaves that had fallen in the yard. By the end of the day, almost as many more had fallen again. It was like 85 degrees when I left there, 100 miles to the south, and when I got here, it's like 62 degrees. Still windy as hell.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 12, 2008, 12:25:09 AM
It skirted around us. We got some wind that got kind of whippy, but nothing that was bad enough for me to pack pigs in bins and tear ass down to the basement.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on May 12, 2008, 02:05:20 PM
It was beautiful here all weekend.  Mid 70s and sunny.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 13, 2008, 05:45:20 AM
'Nado! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clFCtNN3GBM)

It might make me a bad person, but I LOL'd at shit going ass over elbow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on May 13, 2008, 05:37:06 PM
hehe cool.

Also, "S&M Equipment Company".
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 13, 2008, 06:23:48 PM
uhhhh huh huh huh huh huh
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 13, 2008, 10:04:24 PM
The company that used to supply carnival rides for fairs and whatnot up in Vermont was S&M Amusements.

They had black semis parked in the mall parking lot, and you'd be like, That can't be what it seems to be.  For one thing, how could they need so many trucks?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on May 14, 2008, 08:13:59 AM
Mobile dungeons.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 14, 2008, 08:17:34 AM
 :knotty:

We had a week of utterly dismal weather. Temps in the low fifties and overcast/fog with occasional drizzle, and it was so bad at work I considered wearing fingerless gloves to type. Yesterday was nice, today ought to be actually hot. I'll be in my passively refrigerated office in the stratosphere so it's going to be awesome.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 14, 2008, 08:34:51 AM
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Mobile dungeons.

Good answer.

But if you need four or five semis to transport all your subs, you may need some counseling.  At the very least, that's a lot of money.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on May 14, 2008, 08:43:53 AM
We had a week of utterly dismal weather. Temps in the low fifties and overcast/fog with occasional drizzle, and it was so bad at work I considered wearing fingerless gloves to type.

Luxury!

We used to lie awake at night dreaming of temps in the low fifties and overcast with occasional drizzle.

Bloody favoritism.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 14, 2008, 08:49:54 AM
That's pretty much every day here. I'm still slowly weaning off the winter gear...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on May 14, 2008, 06:52:48 PM
The fricken heatwave is hear.  I practically melted while watching the sumo competition today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 14, 2008, 08:02:57 PM
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I practically melted while watching the sumo competition today.

Those little strappy diapers they wear are pretty sexy, huh?

Perv.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on May 17, 2008, 09:24:40 PM
It hit 101 over here today. The summer is coming, the summer is coming!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on May 17, 2008, 10:36:07 PM
*hangs a lantern in the old church*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 18, 2008, 07:55:10 PM
We call that cryin' wolf up here.

Nevermind that it's been in the upper...............:trance:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2218/2503130013_080118dac5.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 18, 2008, 10:27:07 PM
Yeah, well . . . we're supposed to get frost tonight.

If you seek a pleasant popsicle, look around you.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on May 19, 2008, 02:51:56 AM
Down near freezy again and is supposed to be single digits all week. Poop.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 19, 2008, 08:10:43 AM
Ha.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on May 19, 2008, 02:46:28 PM
We were in theh 100s last week and now it's only supposed to be in the high 70s.  A huge improvement.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 19, 2008, 03:35:37 PM
60's and rainy. Bleh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: unclejessie on May 22, 2008, 09:24:43 PM
Fuck tornadoes.  That was some creepy shit today.  Twister ripped through Windsor which is about 8 miles from work and 15 from home.  Missed my good friend's house by 8 blocks and took out the house of a guy I work with.  That stuff just doesn't happen in this area.  We've had small tornadoes before but never anything that was a half mile wide. 

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 22, 2008, 11:31:57 PM
 :shock:

Ugh. The rental place has a bunker-like finished basement, so there's that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 23, 2008, 12:29:42 AM
Yeah, I gotta admit that tornadoes are a romantic thrill...from a distance.

As a kid, I'd go visiting my grandparents down in a tiny corner of SE Kansas. Something about the climate zone, I don't know, but tornadoes are extremely rare there, and the climate is milder than the rest of Kansas. But yes, there were bad freaky thunderstorms in the spring and summer, hell yeah. Used to scare the fuck out of me and I'd either hide under the bed or scream my lungs out. Very scary. But I didn't find out about the reason for the scarcity of 'nados there until I was grown up. For a good long while I thought the house was blessed by the little prayer that covered the light switch in the hallway near the bathroom.

They didn't have a basement. If, in the rare instance of a twister, there was a plan to run across the alley to someone they knew who had a basement. AFAIK, I don't believe they ever experienced a tornado while my mom and aunts grew up there.

Until my grammy and gramps were well into their late 80s. It hit suddenly, and they had nowhere to run. They jumped into their tiny sliding-door wooden closet in their bedroom, and held on to each other for dear life. Wow. I wonder what that felt like. They were always so glib and mellow about their relationship with each other, and were never prone to any kind of emotional outbursts. I'll bet that was a milestone of an experience.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on May 23, 2008, 11:09:52 AM
As a kid, I'd go visiting my grandparents down in a tiny corner of SE Kansas. Something about the climate zone, I don't know, but tornadoes are extremely rare there, and the climate is milder than the rest of Kansas. But yes, there were bad freaky thunderstorms in the spring and summer, hell yeah. Used to scare the fuck out of me and I'd either hide under the bed or scream my lungs out.

Methinks that last line explains why you were told the formers.  :P  Tornado Alley. (http://www.tornadochaser.net/images/frequency.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on May 23, 2008, 11:10:45 AM
We've had small tornadoes before but never anything that was a half mile wide. 

That's a good 'un.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 23, 2008, 11:14:03 AM
Ok, it's raining. That's at least the Sixth Seal.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on May 23, 2008, 01:52:22 PM
Methinks that last line explains why you were told the formers.  :P  Tornado Alley. (http://www.tornadochaser.net/images/frequency.jpg)

I'm going to have to disagree with that map.  The past couple of years, central Missouri has been getting nailed.  I've been watching severe storms move east over KC and then really get nasty.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on May 24, 2008, 08:58:22 AM
Methinks that last line explains why you were told the formers.  :P  Tornado Alley. (http://www.tornadochaser.net/images/frequency.jpg)

I'm going to have to disagree with that map.  The past couple of years, central Missouri has been getting nailed.  I've been watching severe storms move east over KC and then really get nasty.


Well, I can't tell. Does the teeny print say 1983 or 1993?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 24, 2008, 01:58:45 PM
I do know that in 1972 the worst tornado was America was in Vancouver, WA. I'm sure I've rambled about it here...
:sleeping:

Must have been a dry year...

That, and we do occasionally get  mini-tornadoes in West Seattle.   (http://www.komotv.com/news/archive/4009171.html)

If we did have a full-blown twister, it'd be on the news all day and all night... :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on May 27, 2008, 05:02:30 AM
170 tornados since Thursday, according to the news people...  :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on May 27, 2008, 07:21:35 AM
Yesterday when I flew in, Chicago's temp was about 80F. Then during the night, we had what the NWS was calling a "pneumonia front" ( :trance: ) and the temp's down to about 45 now and is only going up to 51 or so today.

And I called in sick today; hopefully it's not pneumonia. ;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 28, 2008, 06:43:09 PM
We had 78 F, then the next day was cooler . . . with frost that night :trance: . . . and then mid-60s the next day.  Warmer tomorrow, and then the rain.

I have a bunch of yardwork to do, but it's not going to get done before the rain, alas.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on May 31, 2008, 01:21:19 PM
I like that I leave the midwest to come to Maryland and we're having severe thunderstorms and are under a tornado watch.

Stupid.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 31, 2008, 03:39:08 PM
I like that I leave the midwest to come to Maryland and we're having severe thunderstorms and are under a tornado watch.

Stupid.

 :rollin:

Isn't it awesome when that happens? Yeah, no.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 03, 2008, 07:04:36 AM
Out of hand boomers this AM. Blew the grill across the deck.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 03, 2008, 08:33:35 AM
I think we're getting those tomorrow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 03, 2008, 06:55:54 PM
Every.single.time I move, the first week I'm in the new place - BLAM! Hellnasty thunderstorms break out. I can't even begin to fathom it. It's like they're so excited they found me again that they get overstimulated and start careening around like a bus full of ADHD four-year-olds hopped up on sugared cereals.

WTF
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 03, 2008, 10:11:46 PM
Gawd DAMN it's raining like hell here.

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9295/21241465jc3.gif)

I can't go out in THAT....!!

Maybe I'll wait...ten minutes...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 05, 2008, 09:24:35 AM
S'posda be in the 90's for the foreseeable future.

 :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 05, 2008, 04:21:01 PM
I'm still hoping for at least one week of that here this month. I wonder what the odds are in Vegas?

Still, it could be like this indefinitely. Talk about a holding pattern.

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4638/forecastjq7.gif)

Although mid-60s approaches decent cycling in shorts weather.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 06, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Jim Cantori is having a bad night. First he's bitching about his tie being too tight, then he blurts out "Isn't it amazing what ADHD can do for an adult?"

 :spittake: :worship:

The man is on a tear.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 07, 2008, 02:01:26 AM
I'm convinced the best thing about teh NW is the sunsets. It can be raining all day with no end in sight, and suddenly the sky opens up unannounced.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2526797320_8a052c61bb.jpg)




 Man, the crescent moon was so crisp, and the shadow like a dark grapefruit. Wish I'd thought of snapping a pic of it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on June 07, 2008, 05:38:49 AM
That's a nice one. We had kind of the opposite here last night. Hot and dry all day, and then all of a sudden it started unexpectedly raining last night. Rained pretty good too, which is nice, because it's getting kinda droughty again.  I should've taken some pictures last night, but I was preoccupied with the kitten thing. It was one of those evenings when there were scattered Cumulonimbus clouds reaching into the upper levels of the troposphere, and the setting sun, which was obscured by clouds, shone on them turning them orange-red, which cast this warm pink light on everything.

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Jim Cantori is having a bad night.

I love that nut-case. I didn't know he was still on there - I haven't watched TWC in a while.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on June 07, 2008, 05:25:38 PM
OMGSEVERETHUNDERSTORMEXTREEEEEEEEEEEM! :whatever:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on June 07, 2008, 06:13:57 PM
Jungle-hot here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 07, 2008, 08:55:55 PM
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8513/35549663kv9.gif)

I know this is freaking people out. I try to tell them that this is par for the month of June, and they wig.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 08, 2008, 10:46:39 AM
90's with elevenbillionty percent humidity. Bogus.

Also, our hookup for the water for the washing machine is fucked up. The laundry pile is staggering. Both in size and smell.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2008, 11:35:28 AM
Yeah, I desperately need to go to the laundromat, but I really hate going by myself.  Something about a guy at the laundromat by himself.  Even if you're not wearing someone else's underwear on your head, the vibe is there.

We had spectacular psychotic thunderstorms last night.  Power kept going on and off, and the wind alternated between the Roving Sheets Of Rain effect and the Horizontal Rain one.  My roof seems to have held up OK, at least.  It was raining so hard that I had water coming down the flue, and, downspout extensions or not, I had water in the basement this morning, although nothing terribly bad.  I wish I trusted the dehumidifier to run while I'm not there . . . I think I'll just put it on a timer, for occasions like this.

Today, upper 80s, but the humidity's only about 70%.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on June 08, 2008, 03:12:51 PM
Hey . . . it got dark, and then the storm sirens went off.  Checked the NWS site:

* AT 359 PM EDT...DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS
  LOCATED NEAR LANSING...AND MOVING EAST AT 50 MPH.

* THIS TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
   EAST LANSING BY 400 PM EDT...

  IN ADDITION TO THE TORNADO THREAT...GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL AND
  DAMAGING WINDS OVER 75 MPH CAN ALSO BE EXPECTED


ORLY?  And my car windows aren't all the way up.  I thought that if it started raining, I'd be able to run out back and put them up, but now I'm trapped upstairs (where else?) with some dude who's looking . . . at . . . every . . . old . . . Playboy.

Yep, it's raining and blowing up a storm all of a sudden.  I said to the customer, "We might have to go downstairs to the basement."

He looked up in confusion and said, "Are there more Playboys down there?"

No shit.  OK, I'll go to the basement, if necessary, and you can stay up here with Hef.


edit:  FG just intercommed me and said, "My T-shirt is soaking wet!"  Apparently the boss called to have her bring in our bargain-book carts from out front, what with the sudden driving rain, and all.  (I had figured she'd thought of this herself, but she explained she was too engrossed watching the lightning.)

It's nice that she felt she had to call to tell me, though.  :eyeroll:  :lol:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 09, 2008, 05:56:34 PM
There's a strange new cat-like blonde woman on the Weather Channel.

Why yes, I really do need to get a life.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 09, 2008, 07:59:35 PM
When I lived in a place that had Weather, I watched the Weather Channel a whole helluvalot.

Now, not so much.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 09, 2008, 11:45:34 PM
We had a downpour, spectacular sunbreaks, and it was winnnnnnnndy. Biz might have benefited from it...

(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5314/img7035on0.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 09, 2008, 11:56:53 PM
The lightning tonight has been nothing short of spectacular.
Unfortunately, I am t.. farting rainbows.... Epic Fail.
I'll be eBaying that so it goes to someone who both deserves and knows how to use it.

*grunt*


edited for graphic language
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 10, 2008, 07:47:17 AM
Fifth (?) straight day of 90+.  Happy Spring!  The storms are due this afternoon and the weather is supposed to break.  The highs are only expected to peak at 85-ish tomorrow.

 :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 10, 2008, 08:40:57 AM
Lookout for those storms when they roll in.
The house alarm chorus was ringing last night thanks to the lightning popping everything in sight. It even took out the "local" radar station. The encore performance was at 5AM. The wind got kind of whippy, but there was nothing like the absurd rain, 'nadoes, and other damaging stuff like they've been getting up north. I'm okay with missing out on that stuff. We had our morning of horizontal rain once already and that was plenty.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on June 10, 2008, 11:24:27 AM
Yeah, we had a nice light show here. It woke me up, but it was so dramatic I had to go ahead and open the blinds to let it hypnotically flash me back to sleep.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 10, 2008, 03:56:02 PM
God I miss that shit. I remember one time, in Kansas, I thought it was some dude outside my window with a flashlight.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 10, 2008, 06:42:41 PM
 :rollin: :rollin:

Axe and I did that to Weeze once. She was babysitting Dr. B's kids, and I knew she always watched horror movies. The house she was at had a couch right up against a low, wide window.

The reaction was awesome.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 10, 2008, 07:05:57 PM
You'd love it here BB...

One big flash of light, a BOOM, and that's it.

On the other hand, that still sounds ominous... :brainwaves:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on June 25, 2008, 11:30:13 PM
Pnuk is in Columbus, where there are ONADOEZ.  He is seeking shelter.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on June 25, 2008, 11:35:23 PM
You've heard of "Land of a Thousand Lakes?" This state is contemplating "Land of a Thousand Fires."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 26, 2008, 01:47:20 PM
Okay.

So the SVR TSTRM WRN klaxons here are weird. First - the lightning detectors at the golf course go off. Simple air horns, so it's a chorus of FWAAAAAAAAAAAAs. Then the main PA goes off and it sounds like those electronic church bells. BING BONG BING BONG BOOOOONG BING BING BONG.

 :confused:

Then a guy who is definitely from Kentuckeh gets on the PA and announces that the shit is going to hit the fan and everyone needs to get to a secure area until fifteen hunnerd owahs.

 :rollin: :rollin:

I want to know where the guy on the PA actually is - because if it's just that little shed at the park I spotted, it's only a matter of time before I break in and burp into it. And maybe make a few terse comments about the jackasses with the leaf blowers. Thing is hella loud.

So far, the storm they're all blaring about isn't too impressive.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 28, 2008, 02:36:04 PM
Quote
AS THE TEMPERATURES WARM INTO THE LOW/MID 80S AND WITH DEWPOINTS AOA
   70F...BY EARLY AFTERNOON MLCAPES WILL CLIMB TO AOA 2500 J/KG.  WHILE
   LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE IS NOT WELL DEFINED DUE TO UNIDIRECTIONAL FLOW
   ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR THE CAP APPEARS TO BE WEAKEST FOR INITIAL
   DEVELOPMENT OVER SRN IND. STORMS WILL INCREASE RAPIDLY IN NUMBER AND
   INTENSITY ACROSS THE OH VALLEY BY MID AFTERNOON.  WITH THE STRONG
   JET DRIVING EWD ACROSS NRN OH VALLEY INTO NRN OH BY 00Z...AND THE
   CONTINUED 30-40KT LOW LEVEL WESTERLY FLOW...FAST MOVING LINE
   SEGMENTS AND BOWS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP.  DAMAGING WINDS WILL BE
   THE PRIMARY THREAT WITH POTENTIAL FOR WIDESPREAD COVERAGE ONCE
   STORMS EVOLVE INTO A LINER MODE.  SIGNIFICANT WIND DAMAGE WILL BE
   POSSIBLE GIVEN THE SPEED OF MOVEMENT AND AMOUNT OF INSTABILITY
   PRESENT.

Sounded pretty bland except for the last line. Still, I haven't seen much of anything yet - so I'm writing it off as either attention whoring or setting us all up for the "We told you so, suckas."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on June 28, 2008, 06:44:56 PM
Note to self: if you plan to walk a mile uphill to a neighborhood fair while pushing a stroller, check to make sure the temperature isn't 92 degrees.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 29, 2008, 08:22:53 PM
Hah! I typed in "Sammamish" on Wunderground just to see how hot it was. 99 at Demery Hill.

It's "only" 83 here... :batteyes:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on June 29, 2008, 09:07:50 PM
Lilia and I went swimming.  It was lovely.

I just checked TWC.  My ZIP in Issaquah is 5 degrees hotter than Sammamish right now.  93, feels like 98.  I'm actually kind of enjoying it.  I've got the AC set to 80.  Once Punk gets back from OH I'm sure he'll be turning it down.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 30, 2008, 10:21:41 AM
Fog rolled in, it's mid-fifties here on the beach, going to be mid-eighties inland. Aaaah the coast
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 30, 2008, 12:37:52 PM
I remember the first time I ran into that, being a Kansas expatriate *cough.*

It was in the 90s (the years and the temps :galm:), and I was headed for Cannon Beach in OR, and all of a sudden there was this purple band showing up all around the horizon, and I was like huh?

Kind of disappointing at first. But then it was 65 and cool...

Even more trippy to watch as it burned off the next day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on July 08, 2008, 09:46:24 AM
Quote
THE MAIN THREAT ON WEDNESDAY WILL BE LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AS THE STORMS DEVELOP IN A VERY JUICY AND
WARM ATMOSPHERE.

Juicy atmosphere.

 :whatever:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on July 08, 2008, 11:15:56 AM
It's right juicy down hyah today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on July 12, 2008, 11:19:01 AM
Quote
THE STORMS WILL BE MOVING INTO LEXINGTON...PARIS AND LANCASTER
BEFORE 1115 AM EDT AND WILL REACH RICHMOND AND WINCHESTER BY 1245
PM EDT.

IF THE WEATHER BECOMES THREATENING...GET OUT OF POOLS AND MOVE TO
SAFE INDOOR SHELTER.

What, like if it whips out a knife and starts yelling "I'll cutcha bitch!" or something?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: BizB on July 12, 2008, 11:32:06 AM
(http://www.bizb.biz/images/fun/cutabitch.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on July 12, 2008, 11:40:38 AM
 :lol:

I need to print that one out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on July 12, 2008, 12:33:48 PM
We have lost power every morning, or at least every other morning, for like a week and a half. We've had some storms but can't tell if it's the weather or what?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on July 14, 2008, 05:33:22 PM
It was so freaking hot last week and the smoke and haze from all the fires have made it miserable.   But Friday and Sat I went to UCSC for a swim meet and it was drizzling, foggy, and 60.  I was loving life!  If the weather continues like this all summer, I just may move up to Seattle and join allya'alls
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 16, 2008, 07:07:28 AM
It's been just hot enough to get tiresome.  Last night, per the weather professionals, it was supposed to get down to 56 F.  I put window fans in before I went to bed, and it sure wasn't that cool outside at that point, but I had faith. 

Slept all night without a blanket.  This morning, the house was still 75 F, and when I went outside (a little before 7 AM), it wasn't any cooler out there.

You lied to me, forecasters.  You suck.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 16, 2008, 10:51:37 AM
Don't miss that a bit...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on July 16, 2008, 09:32:55 PM
My niece from Baton Rouge is visiting KC this week.  I've been dying because it's been in the 90s.

She doesn't even sweat.  "It's SOOOO lovely here!", she says as she dances outside.  "Where's your humidity?"

Little bitch.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on July 17, 2008, 08:28:08 AM
It's been 80s-90s hot here during the days but the humidity has been reasonable and at night it's down in the mid-70s.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 18, 2008, 02:38:37 PM
I love these kinds of days...

It's 57 right now. Marine cloud cover in the morning, clearing by afternoon, and it'll be in the 70s... :detta:

Though I'm sure there are plenty of complaints out there about how we "haven't had a summer."

People here tend to forget where they're living, and it's pretty much always like this. If we did have a "hot" summer (like 10-15 years ago) it was an anomaly. Gets really old quick.

Why would people live here if they complain about the weather? No sense. None at all...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on July 18, 2008, 03:41:01 PM
Those are ideal temperatures.
It's 90 here and it sucks ass. The bad kind of ass.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 19, 2008, 10:00:06 AM
Quote
It's 90 here and it sucks ass. The bad kind of ass.

Exactly.  I can often get my house to cool down to like 70 F overnight, through judicious use of window fans, but if it rains all night . . . not so much.  I need to ventilate my attic, but there are so many things to do.

Of course, at best my house is nice and cool all day, and then it's 75-80 F by the time I finally get home, and the attic's so hot that the upstairs keeps heating up until it hits about 85.  My cat is a longhair, though, so at least she gets to enjoy cool temperatures while I'm at work.  She's not allowed into the basement yet, as it's not yet cat-friendly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 19, 2008, 04:56:22 PM
Oh man, I remember those hot attics. Not in a  :knotty: way, mind you...

Do we have an emoticon for canewaving yet? Biz?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on July 27, 2008, 12:29:59 PM
Quote
ESPECIALLY OVER ADIRONDACKS WHERE HIGHER TERRAIN IS BEING HEATED DIABATICALLY

BITCHES DON'T KNOW 'BOUT MY DIABATUS!

 ;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on July 27, 2008, 01:02:03 PM
I read that as diabolically  :diabolical:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on July 28, 2008, 11:21:24 AM
Yesterday was slightly diabolical. I thought it was going to be dry on my bike ride, but I damn near got misted to death on the Island.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 29, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
It allegedly wasn't any hotter or more humid today than it's been for weeks, but . . . everyone agrees it was somehow much freakin' hotter today.  Just about every customer through the store complained about it.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on July 30, 2008, 10:36:57 AM
It's raining. Finally.

*spazzy YYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on July 30, 2008, 10:53:34 AM
Quote
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOUISVILLE KY
1121 AM EDT WED JUL 30 2008

KYZ041-048-049-056-057-301630-
FAYETTE KY-JESSAMINE KY-CLARK KY-GARRARD KY-MADISON KY-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...LEXINGTON...NICHOLASVILLE...
WINCHESTER...LANCASTER...RICHMOND
1121 AM EDT WED JUL 30 2008

...BATCH OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS...

AN AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS IS CURRENTLY MOVING EASTWARD
ACROSS THE LEXINGTON METRO AREA SOUTHWARD TO RICHMOND KENTUCKY.
THROUGH 1230 PM EDT...THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL WILL AFFECT I-75
BETWEEN LEXINGTON AND RICHMOND...AND I-64 BETWEEN LEXINGTON AND
WINCHESTER...WITH RAINFALL TOTALS UP TO ONE INCH IN ABOUT 20
MINUTES. THIS HEAVY RAIN WILL GREATLY REDUCE VISIBILITIES...AND
CAUSE PONDING OF WATER ON ROADWAYS. ALSO...A

$$

AL


!!!!!
 What?! What am I supposed to know??!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on July 30, 2008, 10:54:36 AM
ALSO...A


!!!!!
 What?! What am I supposed to know??!

[/quote]

They're just reminding everyone that you're a weather hazard. Lightning strikes far more likely when you're in town.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on July 30, 2008, 04:21:27 PM
I think they're saying you have to put in more money to read the rest.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 06, 2008, 02:12:38 PM
So like there's talk of heat records being broken as we reach a high in the low 90s.

Overheard: "Well, I'm from the Midwest. Heat is good."

:eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 20, 2008, 10:13:46 PM
Wow that was practically ancient history...^^

So people were freaking out a couple of months ago about the Junuary weather, now it's Augtober in Seattle.

(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8215/spaceneedleee9.gif)

The bike ride home was awesome. No, really. In true fashion the sky turned blue less than a mile away from my street.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on August 22, 2008, 07:51:06 PM
It feels all tropical (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php) outside - very windy and warm. I like it  :D

By the way, did you know that all the NOAA radar images are stored in a cache on your computer? I went searching for a particular gif recently that I didn't know the name of, so I searched by file type, and there was like 2000 gifs from NOAA on my machine.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on August 22, 2008, 08:23:39 PM
It feels all tropical (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php) outside - very windy and warm. I like it  :D

By the way, did you know that all the NOAA radar images are stored in a cache on your computer? I went searching for a particular gif recently that I didn't know the name of, so I searched by file type, and there was like 2000 gifs from NOAA on my machine.

 :lol:


Actually, yeah. Found out the hard way.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 25, 2008, 08:07:13 PM
Man, we shore had us a gullywasher. Boomers'n'EVERYTHING. :thud:

Right during rush hour, natch.  And I thought to myself this morning "naah, ain't gonna need the rain gear today..." :eyeroll:

Though the fleece vest still kicks ass for dryness and warmth. :detta:

It's actually better to ride home soaked on a bike. I'll bet it was pure hell for the commuters.

The buses were probably packed, moving inches up Dexter. Yeah, been there...

And in typical fashion, it's starting to clear up.

(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5820/08252008ys4.gif)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on August 25, 2008, 10:30:45 PM
Don't forget the funnel cloud this morning on the lake!  We've had apocalyptical weather here this last two weeks.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on August 26, 2008, 10:25:36 AM
I've forgotten what rain looks like.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on August 26, 2008, 10:40:47 AM
Got some yesterday, finally. Rain.

Need more. The lawn's the same color as my toast.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 29, 2008, 12:24:52 PM
Much like last year, it already started feeling like fall only the second week of August.  :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on August 29, 2008, 12:34:02 PM
Yep, Lilia's been wearing a jacket to day care already.   :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 29, 2008, 04:25:03 PM
We've mostly been having 70s and lower 80s by day and 50s (sometimes 40s!) by night.  Suits me fine.  I'd rather wear a jacket, anyway.

I come from the land of the ice and Viking kittens.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Psidefect on August 29, 2008, 06:53:09 PM
Viking Kittens (http://bizarreconfessions.com/random-stuff/viking_kittens.swf)!

:headbang:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on August 29, 2008, 07:52:28 PM
I, of course, welcome my Viking kitten overlords.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 30, 2008, 09:05:30 AM
Exactly.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on September 01, 2008, 06:53:48 PM
Just checked in with my Baton Rouge sister.  Gustav took their power away, as well as some trees, bushes, and their trampoline.

They're without power, but are stocked up and hunkered down and doing fine.  They say the worst is over.

Can't reach my New Orleans friends though.  All circuits are busy.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 01, 2008, 09:01:27 PM
NOOOO, NOT THE TRAMPOLINE!

Today I excavated some photos of us weathering a hurricane back on Godforsaken Island in '95. Man those kids and dog were cute.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on September 01, 2008, 09:12:23 PM
Please don't tell me the dog got blown away.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 01, 2008, 09:24:38 PM
No, dog was fine, if desperately incontinent (five months old at the time). But I nearly flew unit 2 as a kite. she had a rain suit on that was pretty much impermeable to wind, and she attained liftoff more than once.

I really need a scanner.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 02, 2008, 01:46:39 AM
Glad Gustav wasn't the freakout expected...though it's early in the season.

In other news, it's nice to be back in the cool blanket of cloud kingdom again, even if I was only gone briefly.

Though there's something to be said for those hot bug-noisy Midwestern nights. I guess. Not much, but something.

Caught a couple of nice sunsets. That always makes up for anything no matter...

(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9850/img0060ni5.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on September 05, 2008, 03:31:52 PM
Midweeks it's been really hot, weekends have been perfect.  Keep it up mother nature :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 05, 2008, 05:10:06 PM
It finally rained. We still need MOAAAAAARRRRR, but this will work for now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on September 05, 2008, 05:10:55 PM
Rain? In Summer?  What kind of crazy place do you live in?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 05, 2008, 05:12:02 PM
Rain? In Summer?  What kind of crazy place do you live in?

I ask myself that very question every time I awake.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 05, 2008, 06:31:52 PM
Rain? In Summer?  What kind of crazy place do you live in?

Ya rly. That's just crazy talk.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on September 05, 2008, 07:26:55 PM
I gots raining.  I also have impending hurricane.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on September 05, 2008, 07:43:21 PM
Past coupla days have brought us nearly 3" of rain. Cray-zuh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on September 05, 2008, 08:34:32 PM
Past coupla days have brought us nearly 3" of rain. Cray-zuh.

Yeah, stupid hurricane.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on September 05, 2008, 08:38:45 PM
We had the same rain here the past coupla days, but it was much needed.

If Gustav brought KC anything, it's the beginning of a lovely autumn.

And my sister in Baton Rouge just got her power back this afternoon.
 
:D

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 05, 2008, 09:30:55 PM
I gots raining.  I also have impending hurricane.

Ugh. Are you going to have to flee, or are you far enough inland that the most you'll get is a bunch of rain?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on September 05, 2008, 09:41:55 PM
I'm inland.  I'll get lots of rain but it doesn't sound like they're expecting much wind damage.  When Isabelle rolled through we were electricity-free for a few days, but that's partially a function of our being off the main drag.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on September 06, 2008, 01:25:06 PM
HEAVY RAINS CONTINUE TO FALL ACROSS NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND THE
  ENTIRE WASHINGTON AND BALTIMORE METROPOLITAN AREA. WIDESPREAD
  RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES HAVE ALREADY BEEN OBSERVED.
  ANOTHER COUPLE OF INCHES MAY BE POSSIBLE WHICH COULD BRING
  TOTALS TO UP 10 INCHES IN SOME AREAS.

That's a lot of rain.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on September 06, 2008, 01:34:22 PM
Do you have basements over there?


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on September 06, 2008, 01:43:57 PM
Basements exist, but I don't have one.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 06, 2008, 01:45:02 PM
I'm thinking a boat would be more appropriate. Might be sammiches by candlelight for at least one evening. Stay safe. Floods are freaking dangerous so get the flashlight and other safety gear readied. You probably already did that but I'm in Worry McNag mode so there it is.

My 'rents are on a tear because the People's Republic hasn't had more than 3 or so consecutive days of sun. It's going to be really, really bad news up there if the ground doesn't dry out before the cold weather hits. If it snows like a motherfucker, the trees will fall over like dominoes. If it freezes too fast - they'll all heave up. Ugh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on September 06, 2008, 02:02:52 PM
I'm afraid I'm more candle- than flashlight-ready, but I have the AC on to compensate for any extra heat.   :thumbsup:  And the food is covered - I've got a gas stove/oven.  I even picked up extra spring water for the boy.  Right now my biggest concern is the bully squirrel that figured out how to get to the bird feeder.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 06, 2008, 02:09:01 PM
 :hmm:

Nerf gun.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 08, 2008, 12:13:58 PM
September perfection has arrived. The only downside I guess is the sunset at 7:30. More time to see stars, though...

Camped out with this view Saturday. First time I ever slept on a beach anywhere. It was unbelievably...unbelievable. A fleece sleeping bag I could stow away easily in my bike pack...

Totally revolutionary...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/2838288433_6d9cd2e6fc.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2838277785_81e74ccb3a.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 08, 2008, 12:15:25 PM
That's what it's all about.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 08, 2008, 05:43:31 PM
Whoa. That's almost fluorescent.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on September 08, 2008, 05:47:08 PM
Wow!  I really like that.

 :love:

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 08, 2008, 06:04:48 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2838277447_1fbe49aeec.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whidbey/page4)

It really was that vibrant. What, was it all those Vancouver Islanders driving around in thier Dodge Rams and SUVs? Lots of container ships and cruise ships belching their crap, too...not much of a breeze. It didn't smell polluted though. Not by a long shot... :thud:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 08, 2008, 06:14:49 PM
Hmm. Was it windy?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 08, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
Not even. There was a mist that manifested itself at about 1000 feet judging from what I could see on the other shore...Port Angeles has pulp mills, and Victoria (vibrant land mass) has well over 300K people...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 12, 2008, 02:26:30 PM
I think this is DM's forecast for tonight:
Quote
Tonight: Hurricane conditions expected. Showers and thunderstorms. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. Low around 79. North wind 50 to 60 mph increasing to between 55 and 75 mph. Winds could gust as high as 90 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%.

I'm not sure if I've got the right town, but I think so.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 14, 2008, 01:11:18 PM
Quote
...HIGH WIND WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON...
...WIND ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT FROM 5 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 8 PM
EDT THIS EVENING...

AS THE REMNANT OF HURRICANE IKE MOVES QUICKLY NORTHEAST ACROSS
INDIANA STRONG AND GUSTY WINDS WILL OCCUR OVER THE BLUEGRASS
REGION OF CENTRAL KENTUCKY. SUSTAINED WINDS OF 30 TO 40 MPH ARE
EXPECTED WITH WIND GUSTS TO 65 MPH POSSIBLE.

EXPECT TRESS AND POWERLINES TO BLOW OVER AS WELL AS SOME
STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO ROOFS HOMES AND BUILDINGS. STAY AWAY FROM
DOWNED POWERLINES AND WATCH FOR FALLING TREES. SMALL FIRES MAY
ALSO BE POSSIBLE.


It certainly is rather effing windy out there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 14, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
Quote
SMALL FIRES MAY ALSO BE POSSIBLE.

Stoatse Advisory  :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 14, 2008, 01:51:38 PM
Well, I get overexcited and the lighter just kind of flies out of my pocket.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on September 14, 2008, 03:08:12 PM
It's just been nearly constant rain here for several days.  I understand it's been even worse in Chicago, but . . . there were little pools forming in my front yard yesterday evening.  And my front yard is sloped and near the top of a hill.  The local paper claims we've gotten less than two inches of rain this month, which is clearly wrong.  The Weather Channel said last night that we'd gotten over eight inches, which I also think is wrong.  The truth is on the soggy side of the middle of those two claims, though.

We had a pretty dry August, and now the rain.  Bob Geldof warned me.


edit:  Actually, the AP says we may have gotten twelve inches of rain here this past week.  OK, then.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on September 14, 2008, 10:08:47 PM
This morning was grey and rainy outside and I've had this cold so my internal temperature sensor is off. I thought it was chilly since it LOOKED chilly and it's BEEN chilly so we all wore jeans... and sweltered. It was a swamp out there! A/C going the whole time in the car. Once the rain cleared up it was pretty and sunny for a few hours and then on the ride home the wind and rain started. Good lord was it windy. When we got back the power was out (NOOOOOOOO NOT AGAIN) but luckily it turned back on about 10 minutes later.

So I guess that was the remnants of Ike blowing through? or is that tomorrow?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 14, 2008, 10:20:47 PM
That was Ike.

75 mph winds in LOLville. Our neighbor's roof got buggered. (The cool one, not the wad who poured the gas down the storm drain.) We only lost two sheets of shingles. Trees down all over the place.

Then I read this:

"...tree fell on a vehicle on Cannons Lane near Interstate 64, in the driveway of a home that had just been rebuilt after being destroyed by a windstorm earlier this year."

I remember watching that house be demolished and rebuilt. It's on the way to the vet's office - so I saw it a lot. Poor guy. I think I'd just move out at that point.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 15, 2008, 08:30:27 AM
That guy attracts trees the way you attack bolts, eh?

Tres bummere about the shingles :( -- glad it otherwise wasn't worse.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on September 15, 2008, 08:32:25 AM
I think we're getting what's left of Ike today  - it's still hot and humid but the wind is picking up and several different kinds of clouds are about.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Irish on September 15, 2008, 12:07:44 PM
Anyone hear from DM?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on September 15, 2008, 12:52:07 PM
Rain was supposed to stop, fer sure, by 2 AM, which did not happen.  Today was supposed to be sunny and around 73 F, and so far no sun and it's around 57 F.

I was stupid to brag about my basement staying dry.  By this morning, my yard was a marsh and water was coming up through the floor drains.  On the plus side, I fixed the dehumidifier and mostly dried out my attic.  This past several days, we apparently got over 50% as much rain as we'd gotten during the previous nine months put together.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 15, 2008, 04:53:17 PM
Anyone hear from DM?

I just sent him an email, but I would imagine he doesn't have power. He was online here the day the hurricane hit.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 15, 2008, 05:06:20 PM
He's ok  :thumbsup:

Says he'll drop by and post some pics.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on September 15, 2008, 08:28:04 PM
My sister stayed in Houston for the hurricane, then today she "fled from the insanity that is no power, no food, no gas, and people desperate to acquire these things."  They drove to Dallas and got a hotel and are planning on going back in a few days after stocking up on "food, gas, water, ice, as much as we can bring b/c it's desperate there.  2 million people without power.  2 MILLION people."  Crazy.  They're fine, though, and the house is fine but their fence got treed.  So all's well for her.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 16, 2008, 12:39:43 PM
Sunset over Smith Island Saturday.

(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9599/2861149553bfce4d1780fc2.jpg)

Sorry to uh, distract from the hurricane woes...

Well, not really...;)

Glad to know DM is safe... :US:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on September 16, 2008, 12:48:28 PM
Ah, what great photos, Whid.  8) Reminds me of why I live here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 02, 2008, 12:18:50 AM
Our scale only does half ounces, but it was one ounce I brushed off Kuro tonight. The other two cats like passing out hairballs, I guess, because they were at fairly normal amounts.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 02, 2008, 02:58:52 AM
Ah, what great photos, Whid.  8) Reminds me of why I live here.

Check this one...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2900521927_4156b837c9.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2900521927_4156b837c9_b.jpg) (clicky)

And yes, the temperature flag is being flown half mast as the real PNW fall comes knocking. At least he gave us that courtesy...

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 02, 2008, 08:29:10 AM
HOT. WTF.

(actually it is Santa Ana time)

... here come those Santa Ana winds again ...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 02, 2008, 10:52:49 AM
My house was 52 F when I woke up this morning.  Time to fix the heating system.

We're supposed to have frost in a couple of days.  My cat is too tiny for such coldness!  I will make her a highly insulated little catbed.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on October 02, 2008, 02:22:15 PM
WTF they were talking about rain this weekend.  It's the freaking beginning of October.  It's still supposed to be summer here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on October 03, 2008, 02:40:39 AM
I caved and turned the heat on tonight. Can't do another night of almost seeing my breath. Yesterday morning the pigs were the size of softballs because it was so cold. Fluffy, angry softballs.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 03, 2008, 11:43:34 AM
My landlord's been running the heat for about two weeks now. It isn't cold. And he's the one who's always bitching about heating costs.

Got.To.Get.Out.Of.There.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 04, 2008, 10:29:17 AM
Quote
Yesterday morning the pigs were the size of softballs because it was so cold. Fluffy, angry softballs.

I felt vaguely retarded yesterday when I realized that my house revolves around my cat more than around me.  I am living in my pet's terrarium, is what it is.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 09, 2008, 06:52:45 PM
70F today, 33 F tonight.  They call this the 'temperate' zone.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 12, 2008, 11:51:15 AM
It's gotten cool enough that the morning is filled with the lovely scent of fireplaces that haven't been cleaned out for years.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 12, 2008, 11:52:18 AM
70F today, 33 F tonight.  They call this the 'temperate' zone.

We have the same forecast today, plus a few degress. :trance:

I have to replace the dog's bed heater. It's like ten and she hasn't got up yet. Poor old bones.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 12, 2008, 12:17:29 PM
Supposed to hit 80 F today.  :trance:

:hmm:  I wonder if the Right will start calling this 'Indian Global Warming' in a few years.  Shift the blame, shift the blame . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on October 12, 2008, 12:36:13 PM
Been chilly here but today is warm all of a sudden. Tomorrow and Tuesday are to be warm as well. I'm predicting a Tory win based solely on the weather, they did studies that showed the incumbents do better if there is good weather on election days.

...Damn.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on October 12, 2008, 03:30:10 PM
I felt vaguely retarded yesterday when I realized that my house revolves around my cat more than around me.  I am living in my pet's terrarium, is what it is.

Right.  You're cat staff.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 12, 2008, 04:24:22 PM
Beautiful 50s or so Saturday out in the Kitsap County wilds...

I was revolving around fungi, myself, to take the proper picture, but zen took the best ones.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/2933837564_e0d09557f0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whidbey/2933837564)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 22, 2008, 05:01:49 PM
Ice on my car windows yesterday morning and today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 23, 2008, 10:31:31 AM
Does fire count as weather?

The smoke from the fire adjacent to the 405 in the Sepulveda Pass looked like a mist, and actually smelled worse than smog. Traffic was about 1/4 down of normal 45 minutes after they'd reopened the freeway.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 23, 2008, 10:46:49 AM
At its root, weather really means 'what comes and goes', having origins in words that meant 'wind' and 'time' and 'change'.  If the smoke blows on through, sure, it's weather, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on October 23, 2008, 05:19:51 PM
Hmmm... by that definition, the weather is farty down here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 23, 2008, 05:30:24 PM
A bit stagnant at any rate. And a biatchilly, too...

But it's been "Goddammit why aren't you out there?" passings through lately...I'm taking advantage tomorrow. Yesterday it was a herculean effort just to get out of the house. Here's a good one. I thought about putting it in teh "Funny Images" thread but this is serious business:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2965322339_ac437835b1.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whidbey/)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 23, 2008, 05:37:20 PM
It's like the last scene of Repo Man ...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on October 23, 2008, 05:38:34 PM
It's like the last scene of Repo Man ...

I was thinking the same thing
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on October 25, 2008, 09:14:05 PM
and my warped mind was seeing goatse, so there you are.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 27, 2008, 03:09:44 PM
42 F and hailing like crazy.  Approximately quarter-inch hail, but coming down like pouring rain.  Pedestrians think it's funny, but drivers seem to be having some issues.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on November 02, 2008, 11:43:07 AM
*turns off sprinklers*
Heavy sprinkles, but it's better than usual. SIL had a thunderstorm but we got two thunders out of it by the time it hit us.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 02, 2008, 11:55:37 AM
Sun's out after three days of light rain and really nifty clouds. No floods yet, and in fact Friday there was yet not any water in the creek.

Actually that's not so good, maybe the water is all piling up behind a debris dam somewhere.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on November 02, 2008, 11:59:44 AM
Maybe it soaked into the ground? Been kinda parched out thataway for a while now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 02, 2008, 07:29:32 PM
This too is likely. The big issue is the fire-denuded areas really won't hold water, they'll just erode away into the canyons. The forest cervix did spread a whole lot of that aerial hydromulch stuff so maybe it's working reaaaaalaly well and is still absorbing water.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on November 02, 2008, 10:03:26 PM
This too is likely. The big issue is the fire-denuded areas really won't hold water, they'll just erode away into the canyons. The forest cervix did spread a whole lot of that aerial hydromulch stuff so maybe it's working reaaaaalaly well and is still absorbing water.

Yah. I was trying to go with the most positive option on that one. GO GO ZOMBIE GEL!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 03, 2008, 01:32:03 PM
Last night, we had the fiercest thunderstorm there's been here since I moved to Michigan, which was, um, maybe seven years ago.  Holy moley.  It was windy in my bedroom, and, yes, the windows were closed.  The rain was extremely variable, but the lightning was pounding the crap out of the world -- I could have performed surgery by its light.  I was seriously suspecting a tornado.

Tried a million radio stations, but it was around 2 AM, and there were no live broadcasts anywhere I could find.  Hurrah for Clear Channel.  I did sit through some truly knuckle-dragging talk radio waiting to see if there'd be a National Weather Service alert, but no.  Well, whatever.  There was no going back to sleep until after 3 AM, which sucked because (A) the power went out, and (B) I had to be up by 7 AM, and (C) I have no idea what box my travel alarm clock is in.  I tried setting my watch alarm (which I'd never used before) by flashlight.

Fortunately, I have one of those 30-LED wind-up lanterns, which provided plenty of light in which to do crosswords and console my cat.

Best news:  No water in my attic!  I didn't have time to check the basement, but it usually takes massive rainfall to flood the basement now.  I think the roofer / fixit guy must've come back at some point, while I was at work, and fixed his fixup job on my roof.  Either that, or it healed naturally.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 03, 2008, 01:33:07 PM
Oh, yeah -- and today, it's 72 F out there now.  Supposed to have a high of 70 tomorrow and Wednesday, too.  I wish I could go home and open the windows (my thermostat is at 55 F), but it'll be cold by the time I get out of work tonight.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2008, 02:29:39 PM
Snow, snow, snow.

Melting as it hits the ground, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 17, 2008, 10:53:15 AM
We had a humdinger of a sunset Saturday...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/3036815777_e242f9ca2c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whidbey/)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on November 17, 2008, 11:22:32 AM
Yeah, we were driving home from dinner and saw that.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on November 17, 2008, 12:14:55 PM
 :detta: nice!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 17, 2008, 12:22:39 PM
Yep.

(http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/2008321-1116/California.A2008321.1930.1km.jpg)

Ours too (http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2008321-1116/California.A2008321.1930.1km.jpg).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 17, 2008, 12:24:46 PM
This one (http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?subset=AERONET_La_Jolla.2008320.terra.1km) makes it obvious how the big eddy in the Southern California Bight system got smoke to the west of us without us getting any overhead. Kind of neat.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 17, 2008, 12:43:39 PM
I don't understand the pattern.

The bulk of the smoke is blowing away to your advantage...

Are the Santa Anas winds that blow from east to west?

Edit: My boss just showed me a picture from his daughter's front yard. Showed a bunch of glowing hills...

Mentioned something about some group doing a ceremony? With a bonfire that got out of control?

Heard about that one, Hmof?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 19, 2008, 01:12:14 PM
Oh....

Student bonfire blamed for 1 of 3 Calif. wildfires (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081119/D94I0BA01.html)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 19, 2008, 02:43:50 PM
OK some things about that.

The police theory requires that the bonfire would have started the fire something like 36 hours after the kids thought they put it out. The dates are wrong in the article.  Hmm. That's not impossible. But I think they were pretty quick to find a scapegoat here and I wonder if they're being played by their informers. HUGE COINCIDENCE that they also made arrests in the Day fire case on the same day.

Investigators and prosecutors in this county are flat incompetent. The whole Michael Jackson charade was only the tip of the iceberg of Stupid downtown. Frankly, if they're confident that they have the perp, I am severely doubtful.

Also. The Mt. Calvary Benedictine monastery burned flat, except for their bell. The picture shown in the article is of St. Mary's Seminary (used mostly for retreats and whatnot) a quarter mile away that did not burn. Crappy article.

Turns out Carla Hoffmann is Carla-from-the-comic-shop. I didn't know that until last night. Very sad.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 21, 2008, 11:10:11 AM
Apparently we had some kind of freezing rain, although no one around here seems sure when it happened.  We had some light snow yesterday, but :shrug:

This morning, the side roads around town are intermittent ice sheets with a dusting of snow.  I was in two slow-motion near-misses, but fortunately no idiot came along at 35 MPH while I was out there.  The city has officially given up on plowing or salting most roads for most of the winter (it was in the paper, even, with maps), and the alley behind my house has a flat end and a steep-hill end.  I guess I'll mostly be using the flat end this winter.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 21, 2008, 11:53:34 AM
The city has officially given up on plowing or salting most roads for most of the winter (it was in the paper, even, with maps)

WTH? How did they weasel their way out of that?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 21, 2008, 12:02:53 PM
The city has officially given up on plowing or salting most roads for most of the winter (it was in the paper, even, with maps)

WTH? How did they weasel their way out of that?

They ran out of salt. I read an article, somewhere *waves jedi hand*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 21, 2008, 12:34:20 PM
They ran out of money, mostly.  I've said it before:  This area has the crappiest returns on taxes of anywhere I've ever lived.  I wouldn't mind paying the taxes if they seemed to pay for anything.  I know the economy here blows rat anus, but even so.  This state has the worst roads and worst road construction of anywhere I've ever lived, and they do the worst job of clearing them in the winter, too.  (Florida doesn't count so much on that last bit, but still.)

I seriously think the main issue in road construction must be corruption, too.  The asphalt they use here seems to last about twenty minutes.  Boston has a worse climate for roads and far worse traffic rates, but the roads hold up much better.  I think the asphalt they use here is 40% bread crumbs, or something.  It's pathetic.

AND we're about to build some new coal power plants.  Hurrah.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on November 21, 2008, 01:20:18 PM
Governments use crappy asphalt intentionally so that it breaks down quicker and provides jobs.



In other news, Chicago got FUCKING COLD!  The damn wind was unbearable last night.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 21, 2008, 01:28:35 PM
We don't have the funding for the jobs, here.  The roads mostly just stay beat to hell.

Yesterday, they got around to removing storm-damaged trees along one of the major arteries here.  That storm was in mid-May.  They were just able to finally fit it into the tail-end of the storm clean-up budget that ends just as the winter clean-up budget begins, I imagine.

It's ironic that this is such a 'car state' and yet the roads are such suck.  Sad, too.  I know there's no money, but, well, that's just sad as well.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on December 09, 2008, 03:31:22 PM
My car needs new brake pads.  I'm certain they're down to millimeters, and I have to replace them before they start grinding into the rotors (and get really expensive).  I'm driving out to my mom's this next week (about 1000mi each way), so I cannot wait any longer. 

The plan was to go to Car X this morning, drop off the car, walk about a mile or so to Target, do some shopping, return to Car X, wait for them to finish.  I wake up this morning to find the weather has gone to shit.  It's dark, cold, and raining.  This made me postpone my Car X/Target trip.  And worse, SAD is totally messing with me today because it's so dark out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 09, 2008, 04:06:20 PM
Yah.  We had snow yesterday that turned into freezing rain by the time I left work, and then to barely-not-freezing rain by this morning, and it's been raining all day.  So much for the pretty snow.  The rain will freeze again tonight and then turn into about an inch of snow by sunrise, whereupon the precipitation will allegedly end until Thursday morning.

My car is fine in this weather, but I hate to drive on public roads with all the crazy people.  Especially the people who think a minivan becomes a SnoCat as soon as someone in marketing decides to call it an SUV.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 09, 2008, 04:40:55 PM
I'm cursing the dry heavy wind gusts that are blowing my car around on the street.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 09, 2008, 04:43:16 PM
It's pissing rain here. I like it, but yeah, the dark and cold is getting to me too.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 09, 2008, 05:32:34 PM
It's been warming here, I assume the rain is right behind it, and I feel good. I wish I understood more about things like barometric pressure, humidity, the phases of the moon, whatever, you know, things that affect your feeling of well-being that you're not quite in tune to.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 09, 2008, 05:35:18 PM
Negative ions, man.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 09, 2008, 05:43:44 PM
No, really, you know there's some scientific fact there. It would be nice if the Weather Channel could have some kind of index of all of those factors in a forecast. I guess part of the problem with that is everyone reacts differently to some of those factors.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 09, 2008, 05:54:21 PM
Actually, there does appear to be some efficacy from 'ionized air', such as it is, although more recent studies seem to indicate that it doesn't matter which way the polar imbalance goes.  Strange, but there you go -- no mechanism has ever been firmly established, anyway.

The manufacturer claims on those ionized-air machines are retarded lies, but that doesn't mean there isn't any benefit.  Ozone machines may do more harm than good, though, and those ionized air filter things are insanely overpriced.

The effects of moon phases on mood are distinctly not established, although full moons seem to make most people feel better, which isn't too mysterious.  The amount and quality of sunlight have definite effects on moods, and ditto for the weather in general. 

Local variations in gravity usually aren't significant enough to have much effect, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 09, 2008, 06:10:47 PM
I realize some of the relationships could be easily imagined, but at the same time, I think some of the effects are so small they can be easily overlooked. It takes a long time to establish any kind of pattern. It seems to me that I actually feel a little better after a full moon, not during it. And it may not be the gravity that is causing the effect. Or it could be the gravity having the effect on something else, like the atmosphere, for example, that in turn creates the sensation.

The effect of humidity is pretty obvious. Barometric pressure, not so much. When all of factors and more are at certain levels, it seems believable to me that they can have an effect on your feeling of well-being.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 09, 2008, 06:32:52 PM
Barometric pressure has a more obvious effect if you live somewhere wrinkled.  When I lived in VT, my ears would pop going up or down the hill from our house to the local convenience store / vice versa.  The weather rarely produced a similar pressure swing; geography was the primary driver. 

As for gravity, I meant variations in terrestrial gravity, not lunar tidal forces.  The moon's gravitational effect on us doesn't coincide with its visible phases . . . I'm pretty sure.  The moon's orbit is elliptical (there aren't many perfectly circular orbits out there), so sometimes it's closer and sometimes farther away, but the light/dark phases don't necessarily follow the same pattern.  I believe the distance cycle is longer than the visible phases, but I can't remember and I'm too lazy to look it up . . . .

The Earth's surface gravity varies from place to place, mostly due to density issues -- gravity being what it is, a really dense pocket of rock in the ground under you makes a detectable difference, despite how little it varies, overall, from the bulk of the whole planet behind it -- and in recent years some people have started claiming that people can notice these little 'bumps' subconsciously, and that it effs with moods and whatnot. 

No one has proven either of these things, and I wouldn't buy gravity compensation pills unless they were strong enough to lift my feet off the ground, but who knows?  The Army did hilarious tests that showed that some people can hear radar and microwave radio that's aimed at their heads.  It's a strange world, and we're strange creatures. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on December 09, 2008, 07:25:01 PM
The Earth's surface gravity varies from place to place, mostly due to density issues -- gravity being what it is, a really dense pocket of rock in the ground under you makes a detectable difference...

Does that mean time moves slower in those places?  If I build my house on one, do I get to live longer?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 09, 2008, 07:32:20 PM
Yes, time moves slower.  You'd only live longer from the perspective of an outside observer -- you'd live the same number of years (or seconds, for that matter), but they'd be slower years.  From the inside, you wouldn't notice.

They've done experiments with synchronized clocks, one on a tower and one down a well (dry oil well, usually), and, yep, the one on the tower goes faster.  Could just be acrophobia, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 09, 2008, 07:45:12 PM
The best test I've heard of is the one where they had a pair of matched atomic clocks synched up then they put one on a commercial airliner and flew it around the world. When they were done there was a quantifiable difference that was attributable to relativistic time dilation :trance:

Thisall didn't sink in for me until I saw Stephen Hawking speak about (egads) 20 years ago. He does not use the words "space" or "time" ever. He just says "spacetime."

Also I refer you to "Pattern Recognition" by William Gibson in which some of the characters refer to a theory wherein jet lag is actually caused by your soul being left behind because of your rapid travel and it gradually catches up. Actually I think your soul nowdays is forcibly removed by the TSA, but I get the picture.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 09, 2008, 08:06:10 PM
Well, that's just silly.

Yeah, Relativity has had a number of interesting proofs.  For me, the trippiest is the discrepancy in Mercury's orbit:  it goes around the sun faster than it goes around the sun, because the sun's gravity, up that close, is sufficient to contract the spacetime in Mercury's path. 

So if you thought leapyears were a pain in the ass . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 09, 2008, 09:15:28 PM
Quote
Also I refer you to "Pattern Recognition" by William Gibson in which some of the characters refer to a theory wherein jet lag is actually caused by your soul being left behind because of your rapid travel and it gradually catches up. Actually I think your soul nowdays is forcibly removed by the TSA, but I get the picture.

Now THAT, oddly enough, makes sense....
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 10, 2008, 01:14:04 AM
I never get jet lag. I'll get tired from staying up stupid late and boozing in strange places (much in the same way as if I do it here) - but travel itself doesn't affect me other than my circulation getting cut off after sitting in a plane seat for an hour.
 :hmm:
Must be a pleasant side effect of being soulless.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 10, 2008, 11:50:36 AM
I'm sure it'll catch up to you... ;)

And the yuck has descended here. We have gone full-blown SAD. They'd better start patrolling the Aurora bridge.


And I remember when I was living back in Kansas I would notice that if the barometric pressure dropped under 39, we'd have a big storm.

Not so much here. Anything without wind is the grey...constant...drizzle...  :eek:

I should be thankful. It's going to make some very uptight people pack up and run screaming from this region in a couple of months...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 10, 2008, 12:22:46 PM
I must be lucky.  The rain and darkness doesn't bother me.  I mean, I hate that it's dark at 4:30 but it doesn't depress me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 10, 2008, 12:49:21 PM
Me neither. The fact I have to do these stupid jobs does. The weather only serves as a gothic backdrop...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 10, 2008, 01:21:45 PM
38 and rainy. Bleh. Like the song goes "It's the perfect time of year, Somewhere far away from here "
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 10, 2008, 02:47:48 PM
38, huh?

I guess that extra 10 degrees warmth matters up here...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 10, 2008, 02:58:36 PM
I think it would be okay if I had time to get into it. Weather goes from Shorts to Parka to Shorts to Get a Fucking Ark Quick to Nevermind, Go Get the Parka on a damn near daily basis here. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 10, 2008, 02:59:26 PM
Get a Fucking Ark Quick 

:galm:

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2008, 06:42:27 PM
I've never had jet lag from traveling, but I rarely travel across two timezones in one day.  Really rarely.  On the other hand, I think I effectively have jet lag all the time, because, I think, I naturally operate on about a 28-hour day.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 10, 2008, 06:46:22 PM
So you'd do slightly better on Mars then wouldn't you.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on December 10, 2008, 06:56:42 PM
...because, I think, I naturally operate on about a 28-hour day.

Me too.  Not sure if it's 28 exactly, but I'm never tired after 16hrs up.  It makes it really hard to get enough sleep.  A couple years ago I just let it happen, and I'd cycle around about once a week or so, where one day I'd be up all night, one day would be all day, and the others were splits.  I didn't like it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 10, 2008, 06:58:04 PM
...because, I think, I naturally operate on about a 28-hour day.

Me too.  Not sure if it's 28 exactly, but I'm never tired after 16hrs up.  It makes it really hard to get enough sleep.  A couple years ago I just let it happen, and I'd cycle around about once a week or so, where one day I'd be up all night, one day would be all day, and the others were splits.  I didn't like it.

Heh. That's the schedule I'm on now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 10, 2008, 06:59:33 PM
Randall has your number.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/28_hour_day.png)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2008, 07:03:46 PM
Dayum.  Never tried that one, actually.  I rarely can fall asleep before midnight, but I never tried a fixed ratcheting schedule.

Mars is, what, a little less than 25 hours?  I was actually thinking, as I typed that, that I might do better on Mars.  :lol:  But it's not the first time I've thought that. 

Where's that boron fusor, damn it?  I'd settle for a difference engine.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on December 10, 2008, 07:07:30 PM
Oh yeah!  I forgot about that xkcd.  I never tried to do it strictly 20/8, but that's about what happened when I just went to bed when I got tired.  I'd never be able to pull it off strictly even if I tried, though.  Going out boozing messes everything up.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 10, 2008, 07:08:57 PM
Mars is 24 hours 37 minutes. I liked Robinson's solution to that one: use regular earth hours and time accounting, but have a 37 minute gap (like the Nixon tapes) around midnight each night where the standard time clocks don't run. He called it the timeslip or something like that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 10, 2008, 07:13:02 PM
I've done 20 hour days (not by choice) on cruises before, but never got into a regular schedule of it. I actually don't think it's survivable in a sanity sense. The exhaustion was incredible. Of course all of those 20 hours was hard work, so maybe it's not a fair comparison.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
They did a lot of experiments, back in the day, in indoor / underground places where the sky wasn't visible, with people running without clocks or with 'lying' clocks and so on, and they found that most people gravitate to whatever.  I generally heard 26-hour days were the most natural for most people, but who knows?  I only heard pop-sci sorts of reporting about it, and I haven't looked into that kind of thing since the late 80s.

I never heard about the 'timeslip' idea.  Seems to me that people would tend to want to know how much timeslip they had left.  I like the system some cultures used to use, where inconvenient bits of time were just saved up and then used for parties.  Down here, twelve thirty-day months followed by five days of New Year's holidays.  Woo-hoo!  Make life easier.  Or just one extra day at New Year's, but every third month has one three-day weekend.

On Mars, personally, well, I'm actually against terraforming -- I figure if you go all that way, etc, just live indoors.  Make big buildings and engineer them well, and you can live inside and never feel like you're always inside.  You can still go out in suits and vehicles and whatnot.  So if your colony clock doesn't line up with the natural calendar, who cares?  You're living in a wondrous place.  Going to a window and seeing the distant smoky sun up at 2 AM is just part of the cool vibe, man.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2008, 07:27:44 PM
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Where's that boron fusor, damn it?  I'd settle for a difference engine.

Oh.  I may not have so long to wait, after all. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/10/obama.energy/index.html)

Wow.  The oil companies aren't going to like that.  Serves them right for being such non-adaptive pains in the ass.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 12, 2008, 04:25:07 PM
It's getting winnnnnnnnnnnnndy here...

Supposed to snow in a couple of hours, too. I'm sure the Eastside'll get it, but what about Ballard?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 12, 2008, 05:30:31 PM
Weather Service canceled the Seattle storm advisory, but we're still expected to get a few inches up here...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 12, 2008, 09:53:41 PM
We just got slushed pretty big out there. It was kickass. :detta:

Yeah, uh, come to Seattle, on the West Coast, where it's mild weatherwise, except for the temperatures in the teens we're going to be having next week. :eek:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 14, 2008, 01:05:40 AM
And it's snooooooowwwwing..... :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 14, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
Windy with frozen rain and sleet last night, but mostly WIND, and rainy in the 40s today.  It looks really cold and nasty outside, which I'm afraid will keep customers away.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 14, 2008, 04:03:14 PM
And as usual British Columbia has to show us up with their obviously cooler surroundings:

Jericho Beach Webcam (http://www.jericho.ca/webcam/webcam.html)

I used to be jealous of native Washingtonians. Now that envy is focused on my lack of Canadian citizenship...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 15, 2008, 11:40:16 AM
Windy beyond reason last night, so that my house sounded like the old abandoned ghost factory, and tree branches rained down . . . but fortunately none of them hit my car.  It also rained most of the night.

Snow flurries today, and the temp's supposed to drop to around 15 F tonight.  Hard freeze, with all that wet soil.

:pray: do not damage the foundation of my house!

:pray: do kill my stupid lawn!

I would settle for the first one, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 15, 2008, 06:44:40 PM
Still in the upper 20s...

I am preparing now...to go outside... :US:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 15, 2008, 06:50:46 PM
At least it's clear and sunny.  Soak up the vitamin D while you can!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 15, 2008, 06:59:56 PM
It's frickin' cold here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on December 15, 2008, 07:15:13 PM
Yeah.  10 degrees here.  I can't get warm.

My house sucks for insulation.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 16, 2008, 09:36:20 PM
Sunday it got up past 50F, then poured rain and the temp dropped ridiculously (like down to 21F within a few hours or so, then all the way down to 5 before it started warming up - to 11!) and sleeted. Monday morning everything was covered in ice. Not awesome; it took me 30 minutes to get enough ice off my car to see out of it. Then today of course it snowed - like 5" and it's still coming down.

Got to see some pretty snowflakes, though.... like, the six-sided snowflakes I usually only see in pictures.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on December 16, 2008, 10:21:34 PM
What she said.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 17, 2008, 11:23:16 AM
Windy and about to be wet. I actually turned on one light panel because the skylight wouldn't let me read some chicken scratches I'd made yesterday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 17, 2008, 11:29:30 AM
Yesterday's sn/ice is melting. It'll be in the 30's and then Thursday night there is supposed to be a thunderstorm. Because that makes total sense in December.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 17, 2008, 12:20:07 PM
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Wednesday...Mostly cloudy in the morning then becoming partly sunny with a 30 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.

Thursday...Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.

Friday...Partly sunny with a 30 percent chance of showers. Highs in the lower 70s.

 :D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 17, 2008, 01:49:30 PM
Mom says it was 28F on the patio last night. Hope :flipper: 's pond didn't freeze!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 17, 2008, 03:58:06 PM
We have 5 inches of snow here... and it's continuing to fall... there's supposed to be another blast coming later this afternoon.

SOOO glad I didn't go into work today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: vox8 on December 17, 2008, 04:13:49 PM
Ummm, we opened our windows a leetle bit today.

65 and overcast. I have on short sleeves and capris.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: pdrake on December 17, 2008, 04:30:18 PM
it's a freaking winter wonderland in vegas. lots of snow all around.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 17, 2008, 04:35:50 PM
I saw some footage of that. They said snow in Vegas is a once-a-half-decade kind of event.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 17, 2008, 04:43:02 PM
We have 5 inches of snow here... and it's continuing to fall... there's supposed to be another blast coming later this afternoon.

SOOO glad I didn't go into work today.

That's crazy.  We haven't had any more accumulation since Sunday, I think.  We were supposed to get up to 4 inches today, but nothing yet.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: pdrake on December 17, 2008, 04:51:22 PM
I saw some footage of that. They said snow in Vegas is a once-a-half-decade kind of event.

i'm not going anywhere after work today. this morning on the news they were going over the traffic. they were only reporting injury accidents because there were so many. i don't want to be on the roads with the idiots.

i work with a few mexicans from mexico. they had never seen snow.

i finally broke down and turned on my heater today. set it for 68°. i've just been using a space heater up until now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 17, 2008, 04:57:29 PM
We have 5 inches of snow here... and it's continuing to fall... there's supposed to be another blast coming later this afternoon.

SOOO glad I didn't go into work today.

That's crazy.  We haven't had any more accumulation since Sunday, I think.  We were supposed to get up to 4 inches today, but nothing yet.

You guys down south and east should brace yourselves, they're saying you'll be hit later this afternoon.

(http://wp.myweather.net/wp/maps/wci_nxrd_WA_a.gif)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 17, 2008, 05:28:03 PM
It's been foreboding outside, but it might yet prove to be a fake-out.

It's quite a bit warmer out there. Well abovc freezing...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 17, 2008, 05:43:41 PM
Snow everywhere.  I drove through two storms yesterday, but, seriously, in New England neither of them would've been a big deal.  It's just that, here, they can't clear the streets and the locals can't drive in the snow.  Like, at all.  It's pathetic.

One of the major roads I use a fair bit has a 55 MPH section, two lanes each way, where they just added a tiny rotary, for some reason.  I think I complained about this before -- it's just not a major intersection, but now they've added this 15 MPH rotary in the middle of nowhere, and this is not a part of the country where motorists understand rotaries.  And this rotary has no real warning signs, either.

Last night, when I went through there, there were two police cars, a police SUV, and at least five vehicles off the road in the rotary.

:eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 17, 2008, 06:20:51 PM
Mom says it was 28F on the patio last night. Hope :flipper: 's pond didn't freeze!

Yeah, that ice scraper that I bought at Walmart in OKC back in '91 has really come in handy lately.  I don't think they sell them here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 17, 2008, 06:28:12 PM
It's been snowing about an inch an hour here... we're looking at 8 inches of snow on the ground right now.

I was going to try to take a picture of the cotton ball size flakes that were coming down, but couldn't get the camera in time.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 17, 2008, 06:43:27 PM
It's snowing with lightning in Malibu. Cowabunga, dudes!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 17, 2008, 07:05:10 PM
My mom made a global warming joke yesterday.  Meh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: pdrake on December 17, 2008, 07:13:44 PM
it's still coming down pretty heavy. almost all the roads in and out of las vegas are closed.

it's officially turned to "suck".

my backyard right now:

(http://www.perrydrake.com/snow.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 17, 2008, 07:36:16 PM
WHOA!  That's more than I expected.

It's supposed to start snowing here any time and keep coming down until tomorrow.  I wonder if I should go to kickboxing or if I should just go home...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 17, 2008, 07:42:59 PM
My mom made a global warming joke yesterday.  Meh.

Heheh. "Al Gore," eh?

 ;) ;)

*nudgenudge*

SAY no more...?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 17, 2008, 10:56:01 PM
We officially have a foot of snow here.... and it's still coming down.  :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 17, 2008, 11:45:42 PM
Stiiiiillll not snowing here.  Any time now!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on December 17, 2008, 11:48:43 PM
Ah, snow!  We should be so lucky.

Got frozen rain moving in tomorrow.  Last tim that happened all the power lines snapped under the weight.  I was gridless for eight days.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: pdrake on December 18, 2008, 12:18:38 AM
just had the biggest mesquite tree in the yard split in half. it was quite a sound. i'd laugh, but it's a big tree and there will be lots of sawing and stuff to take care of the carnage.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 18, 2008, 12:24:33 AM
This might not be the right place, but I suspect the message will get forwarded to the right parties.
I want a tornado. A big one. I want all of this gone, and then I want my insurance check.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 18, 2008, 09:58:57 AM
I couldn't sleep and I woke up at the regular time I would have been scrambling to run to the bus...looked outside...

Havoc...in Western Washington....

I'm glad I'm not working...today. Even riding the bus would have sucked...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 18, 2008, 11:36:31 AM
I couldn't sleep and I woke up at the regular time I would have been scrambling to run to the bus...looked outside...

Havoc...in Western Washington....

I'm glad I'm not working...today. Even riding the bus would have sucked...

Get a tuque and go snipe people with snowballs. One of those pull-down jobbies with holes for eyes and mouth.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 18, 2008, 02:28:44 PM
Started snowing here again. Looks like about 14 inches.  I love being snowed in.  :happy:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 18, 2008, 02:31:12 PM
We've only got an inch or two, but it looks really icy.  It's still snowing, too.  I haven't gotten to work yet.  Very few people are in.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on December 18, 2008, 02:35:59 PM
This might not be the right place, but I suspect the message will get forwarded to the right parties.
I want a tornado. A big one. I want all of this gone, and then I want my insurance check.

I hope dogbone can help.  The best tornadoes get whipped up in Kansas and move west.  Maybe he can stand in his front yard and spin in a circle.  Again.

Skip my house please.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 18, 2008, 03:42:52 PM
Still a' comin' down....people are either going to be pissed or thanking their lucky stars...

65th Street hill is closed and kids are getting ready to sled down from the top of it...

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 18, 2008, 05:10:08 PM
Yup, still coming down here too...

My question is, never having lived anywhere else in the country, how the hell do people do who live in states where there's snow on the ground for most of the winter get around?

I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to get into work on Monday, the one day that I can't work at home next week because of an early holiday deadline, if my driveway and street still have a foot and a half of snow on them?

I'm not so much worried about my driving. I'm very careful. I'm worried about the idiots I'm seeing on the TV news who have no grasp on winter driving.

Which is odd, come to think of it, considering there are probably more people who live here who came from somewhere else, then people who are "natives." :shrug:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 18, 2008, 05:17:59 PM
My question is, never having lived anywhere else in the country, how the hell do people do who live in states where there's snow on the ground for most of the winter get around?

In my experience, they're more or less flat. The roads get plowed and salted, and you drive. The end. If you're in the country you have better tires or 4WD or something, like maybe your own pickup with a plow blade you slap on there and a bed full of sand and bags of water softener salt.

Except for Duluth. Duluth frightens me. It's like a mini-San Francisco, only coated in ice. I can envision trying to stop at the top of a hill and ending up frozen and dead at the bottom of Lake Superior approximately one minute later.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 18, 2008, 05:56:44 PM
You just take it slow down the hills, and hope like mad you can get up the hills. You have snow tires put on your car in the fall and taken off in the spring. Snow stays around until about June where I'm from. Yes, I have pictures of it. I've been in storms that dumped four+ feet in one go. That gets... interesting. Highways turn into gerbil tubes. Fun if you're out alone, but it gets kind of hairy if everyone else is out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on December 18, 2008, 05:58:41 PM
Ha, yeah.  Alter your routes and take the flattest terrain possible.

Remember, it's not you, it the rest of the idiots on the road you've got to watch out for.  Give yourself plenty of space between you and them.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: pdrake on December 18, 2008, 06:00:14 PM
Yup, still coming down here too...

My question is, never having lived anywhere else in the country, how the hell do people do who live in states where there's snow on the ground for most of the winter get around?

I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to get into work on Monday, the one day that I can't work at home next week because of an early holiday deadline, if my driveway and street still have a foot and a half of snow on them?

I'm not so much worried about my driving. I'm very careful. I'm worried about the idiots I'm seeing on the TV news who have no grasp on winter driving.

Which is odd, come to think of it, considering there are probably more people who live here who came from somewhere else, then people who are "natives." :shrug:

i lived in lincoln , ne while i went to college and a few years after that. you do learn to live with it and drive in it. the roads are plowed almost daily (watch the news the night before so you know which side of the street to park on. sucks when your car is covered until may.) and salted. people have parking lot snow plow businesses and driveway plowing/blowing/shoveling businesses. in vegas you couldn't buy a snow blower or shovel locally to save your life.

i moved back to vegas to get away from it. that was the major driving force. there was one night i was walking from one bar to another down the street and the sidewalks had over an inch of ice on them. i kept slipping and i was crying and saying how much i hated that fucking city and the cold and the snow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 18, 2008, 06:00:29 PM
I think there's only 1000 yards of flat terrain in VT. Bolton Flats. Other than that, everything's a hill.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 18, 2008, 06:02:17 PM
Yeah, you should visit Vermont some winter.  Or look at photos.  Lots of places in the Rockies, etc, are even scarier, since the mountains there are younger.

Around here, yeah, the real danger is mostly all the other drivers.  It's not the unskilled that are really dangerous but the stupidly overconfident.

I did almost get knocked off the road by a plow the other night, too.  That was amusing.  I saw it coming my way -- in the other lane, and all, but throwing an impressive amount of snow THE WRONG WAY because he had his plow set the wrong way -- and fortunately (I guess) I've been in that situation before.  Slow to a near stop and wait to be covered in snow.  You don't want that to happen while you're going 35 MPH.  My wipers were barely able to shrug that crap off the windshield, so I'm glad I was able to stop before he passed me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 20, 2008, 08:53:55 PM
OK this is getting weatherfully evil now...

Rivers of ice. I saw some [impossible to describe the level of nutbaggery] try to navigate down 65th Street hill, he lost it, slid sideways and the threat of sliding all the way down to the bottom (about 50 feet) was real. I thought there was going to be serious out-of-control injury. He finally managed to back it up onto a side street and park it.

This was after someone else chugged up from the bottom of the hill all the way out of sight at the top. We're talking a hill with three distinct inclines, smeared in ice. Crazy bastards.

Snowing hard now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 21, 2008, 02:03:11 AM
For the love of all that is :dogbone: would someone please think of the YouTube and get video footage posted.
I loveses watching me some wipe outs.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 21, 2008, 02:07:53 AM
I took pictures of the xmas cookies that we made today, but I can't find the damn camera usb cable to download them and then upload them.  No interesting video in a long time though.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 21, 2008, 05:04:08 AM
For the love of all that is :dogbone: would someone please think of the YouTube and get video footage posted.
I loveses watching me some wipe outs.

They actually already have some up...  :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugfZWKSTjTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO4TEZwdNg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNhCKB6JYUQ

This one's fucking scary, though. You might have heard about it on the news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp4VFLsRDp8

I used to live a block above where it happened...

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 21, 2008, 09:28:29 AM
Ok it's -6 degrees here. Fahrenheit. With winds of 20 mph gusting to 29 at the moment, which makes for a wind chill of -30F or so. The wind was howling all night, so much so that I could hear it over the noisy heater that was running constantly.

It's supposed to warm up in a few days, after I am in MD for the holidays, natch.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 21, 2008, 10:28:37 AM
I love this bit of advice from the NWS:

IF YOU MUST VENTURE OUTDOORS...MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A HAT AND GLOVES.f

Thanks, Mom.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 21, 2008, 12:35:50 PM
I love this bit of advice from the NWS:

IF YOU MUST VENTURE OUTDOORS...MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A HAT AND GLOVES.f

Thanks, Mom.


LOL! I love it when they start the finger-wagging.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 21, 2008, 01:29:24 PM
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They actually already have some up...

Holy hell.  Attention, Seattloids (and others):

- If the roads are so bad that you KNOW there are going to be accidents, call the police, et al, first, and then set up your camera. 

- You might set up some flares or signs to warn motorists, too, rather than just filming their misfortune and possible injuries, property damage, and deaths.

- Do not attempt to jump out of a vehicle before it crashes.  WTF, are you retarded?  That is a great way to be killed stupidly when you weren't otherwise in any serious danger.  It's not fun to be run over by your own car.  It's not fun to be halfway out the door when the car hits something.  This should be obvious.

- If there's been an accident on the side of the road, do not f@#$ing stand next to your car if there's any other traffic visible.  Certainly don't stand on the roadway side of it.  CERTAINLY do not stand BETWEEN two vehicles that have already crashed.  This is how you get your legs pinched off when the next car hits the back of the line of crashed cars.  You idiot.  Cars are big heavy things, and they can crush you at 5 MPH almost as easily as at 50 MPH. 

Crashed cars on the side of the road are very likely to be hit by another car.  Especially if they're sticking out from the curb . . . in a stretch of road near an intersection . . . where there isn't a parking lane . . . and the whole damn road is a sheet of ice . . . you idiots.

- For that matter, if you're standing at the edge of an icy road, on a hill, in the dark, where you know that an accident is likely . . . get off the edge of the road, you idiots.  Nothing says 'Dumb Obituary' like filming the car that slides over you when you could have just walked out of the way.


Many years ago, in VT, my mother spun out in our Toyota minivan (a vehicle keenly not designed to drive in severe winter weather) one night and dropped the front end off the road.  OK, our neighbors thought we were flatlander idiots, but of course they had a 4WD vehicle with a winch.  So they put their truck sideways across the road and ran a cable around a tree and to the back of the minivan.

And I said . . . "Shouldn't we have someone with a flashlight on either side, to warn any oncoming traffic?"  Because, you know, it would suck to drive right into their truck . . . or the metal cable stretched across the road.

No one else had thought of that.  OK, there, the odds of another vehicle coming along before we were done were pretty small.  But still.



The weather here is Teh Winter Shitstorm, too.  10 F, light grainy snow (almost sleet), 40 MPH gusts.  Early yesterday evening, when I left work, I heard we'd get less than an inch overnight, but this morning, when the wind woke me up, I looked out and saw over 4" of new snow on my car.  And there were cars stuck at either end of the alley my driveway connects to :eyeroll:, which made me a little late for work.  Meh.

Most of the side streets near me still haven't been plowed, and some of them have a plow berm about 18" high where they meet a main road.  Sucky.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 21, 2008, 01:41:13 PM
Yeah, that 2nd video could have ended badly a million times.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on December 21, 2008, 01:53:07 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking wtf when I saw the second video.

I mean really.  Who does that?


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 21, 2008, 02:14:22 PM

 Attention, Seattloids Seattleites

You've been slipping lately. What's next? Apostrophe abuse?

:bolt:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 21, 2008, 02:17:33 PM
Your misunderstanding stems from your belief that other people can choose what I call them.  :harumph:



Delawareans, or Delawarites?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 21, 2008, 02:26:23 PM
I usually call them Indians...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on December 21, 2008, 07:10:52 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking wtf when I saw the second video.

I mean really.  Who does that?

I know!  I watched the guy bail out of his car in utter astonishment.  I mean, he wasn't going more than 15mph.  What's going to happen to you when you have that much time to buckle up and brace yourself?  Especially as compared to standing in the middle of an icy road with other cars not too far behind you.

I watched dumbfounded, then started rolling.

 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 22, 2008, 02:27:46 AM
Four degrees WTF? Screw this. The wind has been going so it's probably a bit colder with the wind chill factored in.

Got a space heater going near the pig pen for extra warmth for them - but not so close that we're risking a fire. They started politiking earlier but called it off because they're too cold.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 22, 2008, 02:38:36 AM
I've 18 inches of snow at my house now, and it's still coming down....  :trance:

I'll post a photo or two later.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 22, 2008, 03:08:04 AM
We got five inches here, with more to come. And, *sigh* it's really too bad I lost my camera. Classic shots tonight, cars stacked with snow, people downhill skiing  closed streets, lots of unintentional community tobogganing...and it's so BRIGHT outside. The lighting is trippy.

Hey, haven't had a good snow-out in a while....
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on December 22, 2008, 11:14:13 AM
IT'S EFFING COLD.

*cough*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 22, 2008, 12:59:29 PM
"We got five inches here, with more to come." BOOOOOOOOOWWWW wakka chika wakka chika wakka chika. It warmed up to nine degrees. The locals must be freaking out. I need to go out driving around so they can add that a bank of smug has just rolled in to the WX.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 22, 2008, 06:41:04 PM
How cool is this (http://2pie.blogspot.com/2008/12/snow-prints.html)?

It doesn't look real. I don't get it. My mind refuses to accept it, but I'm not sure why. I've never seen it done before. Maybe the snow has to be just the right consistency.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 22, 2008, 08:16:28 PM
Yep, that's it. It's a dry powder of a particular grain size range and ... um ... fluffiness. I've seen some amazing stuff like this.

 /once aspired to be a backcountry skiing nerd
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 22, 2008, 08:19:59 PM
I've 18 inches...

I stopped reading there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on December 22, 2008, 11:44:29 PM
18 this morning when I got up.

c/I/Elliott/
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 23, 2008, 10:42:36 AM
Yeah, it's cold as eff and snowing and gray and dark.  Looks like the solstice is a bit late, is how it looks.  Supposed to get another six inches of snow by tomorrow.  Maybe they'll have plowed the sidestreets by then.

Tomorrow, it's supposed to get slightly above freezing . . . and rain.  That should be fun.  Then, on Xmas, it's supposed to be below freezing but sunny.  I'm expecting cars off the road everywhere.
Title: WX WTF
Post by: Hedaira on December 23, 2008, 12:11:21 PM
It's going to warm up from 30 to 60. Overnight.

This Afternoon: Freezing rain and sleet likely, mainly after 4pm. Cloudy, with a high near 35. South wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 24 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Little or no ice accumulation expected. Little or no snow accumulation expected.

Tonight: Rain showers. Some thunder is also possible. Temperature rising to around 45 by 5am. Breezy, with a south wind between 14 and 23 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

Wednesday: Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. High near 58. Breezy, with a south wind between 21 and 26 mph, with gusts as high as 36 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 23, 2008, 12:50:21 PM
Hey, you may even see some snow sublimation.  It makes regular fog look like crap.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 23, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
I'm dreaaamming, of a greyyyy, christmasss
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 23, 2008, 01:35:55 PM
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I'm dreaaamming, of a greyyyy, christmasss

:alien:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 23, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
OK this is more like it.

(http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7648/morelikeityy0.jpg)

The idear of an urban West Coast Winter Wonderland wears a little thin after awhile...

It says "snow" later on in the week but I'll bet it's more inland with the predicted temps. Probably get the drizzle needed to break this crap up...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 24, 2008, 06:32:32 AM
It's snowing again.

No one in the family has the wheels to drive up here, or vice versa, for Christmas.  :(

So Steve caught a ride with a friend of ours to the grocery store and we now have the world's smallest turkey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acrM-KoMHiI) ham to share with the kitties.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 24, 2008, 12:02:31 PM
CAT OR HAM (http://www.sundrymourning.com/2008/12/23/family-time-cat-or-ham/)

Scroll down a ways.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 24, 2008, 01:32:51 PM
Well, it is the other white meat...

And I just heard from my buddy out on the Island: frozen pipes, crappy roads, wet snow falling. I've spent the last two Christmases out there...

Keeping it local this year.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on December 24, 2008, 01:54:01 PM
It was snowing at my house, but 400 feet down at work it's a slushy rain.  The roads are worse now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on December 24, 2008, 05:47:51 PM
Cold rain, turning everything to slush, and going to freeze over tonight. Ick.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 28, 2008, 12:43:50 AM
Ah once again, it's bike-riding weather...  :thumbsup:

Never thought the 40s would seem so warm...almost all the snow is gone.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 28, 2008, 12:58:43 PM
Snow's gone, here, although it's back down below freezing.  It rained and rained and rained and rained, and the wind, how she blew.  Too windy to sleep.

My basement flooded a fair bit.  More of concern is that my foundation sprung new leaks -- and was still leaking lots of water even this morning, so I'm hoping the cold doesn't shove my foundation walls in or break them apart.  We'll see.

My 'cold room', under my porch, hit 48 F, so I had to take a bunch of groceries to work to store in the freezer here.  Meh.  I would've just gotten a foam cooler if I'd known the temperature was going to go up so much for so long.  But now it's just cold and windy and supposed to stay that way, so I can bring them back home after work.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on December 28, 2008, 03:27:41 PM
I'm in Maryland still... it's like 70 degrees out there. WTF? And yesterday there was a 'nado watch back in Chee-cah-goe. Happy End of December!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 28, 2008, 05:33:16 PM
There were tornado warnings in KS, too....I'm not so sure we're not in some multi-DVD Emmerich movie after all...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on December 28, 2008, 05:55:27 PM
I'm in Illinois now, but the drive back had me fighting my way through an entire weather front.  30 degrees on one side, 60 on the other.  It was something like this: ice -> sleet -> ice -> sleet -> rain -> rain -> more rain -> rain -> rain -> sunshine!  Then as I got back into Illinois, tornadoes.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 28, 2008, 08:02:43 PM
That'll learn ya.

70 yesterday, 40 today.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 28, 2008, 10:10:40 PM
Global warming is a hoaz...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 29, 2008, 12:06:46 AM
Global warming is a hoaz...

Cheney and 'burton be the pimpz.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 29, 2008, 12:20:47 AM
It was sunny and sixty-something today and yesterday.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on December 29, 2008, 09:48:33 AM
Shot up way too warm for winter then dropped back down to freezing yesterday. High high winds (45 mph with gusts up to 65 mph) bad enough to slow our drive home, knocking out power in a lot of spots.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 29, 2008, 02:40:16 PM
hmmm.. sounds like our weather here today.

The road in front of our house has not been plowed, never will be plowed, even though the kid in the tractor that cleared our driveway started to try to clear the road -- and got yelled at by a city worker, despite the fact the city won't plow the road and it is virtually impassable. WTF?

Right, liability issues...  :eyeroll:

Luckily, it's a very wide street, no one parks on the street and there's little traffic since it's a dead end way at the end, so it's unlikely you'll hit anything while sliding back and forth in the chunks of ice, snow and deep puddles of slush. So it only took me a half hour to get out to the main road this morning... which is four blocks away.  :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 29, 2008, 02:53:34 PM
Yup. We're getting the windy-windies...it's kind of cool. Haven't experienced gusts like this in awhile...

This is the kind of day I'd love to spend on the Island coast...almost 50 out there...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 30, 2008, 10:39:11 AM
Yeah, I was half-amused by the wind out here, once I got over expecting to hear tornado sirens, until I went outside this morning and noticed that the wind had pulled a lot of paint off the side of my house.

Of course, some of that is the flying roof shingles from my neighbor's house.  At the moment, his house problems are worse than mine, although my basement is still flooded.  It's not that I don't understand, but I find it very unfair that it can be 20 F outside and yet water is still leaking into my basement from outside.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on December 31, 2008, 03:44:28 PM
Aaaand...we're back to Wannabes Run Screaming Weather...

Or is it just Cry of Despair Weather?

I'm kind of glad....

(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8830/forecasthk7.jpg)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 05, 2009, 01:52:12 AM
Nope. Somebody forgot about the surprise snowstorm and it's still coming down... :trance:

Which coast are we on again?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 05, 2009, 10:34:53 AM
Now when I talk in Celsius, you'll understand! ;)
http://xkcd.com/526/
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 05, 2009, 10:57:40 AM
It was 1C this morning. WRONG.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 05, 2009, 11:12:16 AM
Wait... When you talk in C, I was expecting something else entirely.
#include <dumb_american.h>
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 05, 2009, 02:36:30 PM
while too_fucking_cold {
     whine();
     burn_stuff();
}
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on January 05, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
I've started talking in metric a lot.  I don't have temperature or speed yet, but I do length pretty good.  I'm well on my way with volume (not so good with smaller amounts).  And I've been doing metric weights since high school when I started doing drugs.

Completely unrelated, but I find it curious that we measure liquids in "fluid ounces" which is often shortened to just "ounce"  which to me denotes a measure of weight not volume.  I recognize that there is a difference here, but why the hell didn't the Imperial British Society of Whoever not come up with a different term for volume.  And how did people not realize there is a difference between the weights of different liquids in the same volume in the first place?  And worse, how the hell do people not realize it now? 

This frustration is all because I made a joke about the difference between fluid ounces and ounces recently which I had to explain, only my explanation turned into a long attempt by me to explain what essentially boiled down to, "A cubic inch of liquid gold is going to weigh a lot more than a cubic inch of water. Right? So a 12oz can of soda isn't going to be the same size as a 12oz can of liquid gold, is it? So don't you think we should stop calling a 12oz can a 12oz can?"  Believe me, this was a terrible discussion, and I will no longer make the mistake of joking about systems of measurement.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 05, 2009, 02:57:59 PM
I still haven't got the whole "C" thing yet.

I just know that 14 is still kind of chilly, 25 is perfect and anything above 40 is a a living baking hell...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 05, 2009, 03:36:41 PM
Metal work is making me better at converting, at least in numbers if not in my eye's estimations.

And yes, precious metals still use troy ounces, if only to confuse the avoirdupois users who think there are 16 ounces in a pound.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 05, 2009, 03:54:29 PM
I just know that 14 is still kind of chilly, 25 is perfect and anything above 40 is a a living baking hell...

Like, you know, wome....noh shit

:bolt:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 05, 2009, 04:16:15 PM
 :nonplused:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 05, 2009, 04:22:06 PM
 :shock: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 05, 2009, 05:15:14 PM
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I choose Hell. Hell is my natural habitat.

(http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/18130000/18135619.JPG)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2009, 11:56:43 AM
Oh, Nex, Nex, Nex . . . .

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I've started talking in metric a lot.

The phrase "a lot" is not metric.  Try 'for several kilophones'.


A fluid ounce of water weighs one dry ounce (avoirdupois).  There actually was a lot of rhyme and reason in the Imperial system.  In metric, a milliliter of water weighs one gram.  They totally copied.  (Personally, I think the metric system should have been aligned so that 1 gravity = 10 m/s/s, but I was not consulted.)

The word ounce literally means 'one-twelfth'.  There are twelve ounces to the pound in the Troy system but sixteen in avoirdupois.  So, yes, this is still a little retarded, but it's because Imperial is an organic system, not a planned one.  Evolution /= an optimizing process, in the long run; it's a good-enough process.

Metals, yeah, were / are (for not metrons) usually weighed using Troy, not avoirdupois.  As a result, a pound of feathers weighs more than a pound of lead.  My Third Grade teacher probably went to her grave still mad at me about that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 06, 2009, 01:32:28 PM
:harumph: m/s/s sounds like a tire rating. it's ms-2, fer Bobsake or at least m/s2.

The thing that steams me the most about the older systems is the force and mass equivalence (i.e. a pound). That drove me frigging apeshit when trying to understand dynamics, even when they used "slugs" as the mass unit. Actually that made it worse. I have a rocketry textbook from the sixties that is all in "English" units, and it's a nightmare. I read this and I have no idea how we got to the Moon. It was just incredible.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 06, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
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it's ms-2, fer Bobsake or at least m/s2.

-2?  I think you just don't like Seussian fractions.  And your tires must be pretty different from mine.  But whatever . . . fighting over notation is too religiose for me.


Quote
I have no idea how we got to the Moon. It was just incredible.

Yah, ditto on that.  Our space program was like three short steps from steampunk.  The whole thing was far more Jules Verne than people realize, and it amazes me, every time I think about it, that we were able to send people to the moon and bring them back.  Reliably, even!

The film Apollo 13 had me laughing nervously a lot.  The whole thing is ridiculous (which is not to say it didn't happen).  To think there are people who don't believe the ancient Egyptians could have built the pyramids . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 06, 2009, 03:10:56 PM
I just know that 14 is still kind of chilly, 25 is perfect and anything above 40 is a a living baking hell...

Like, you know, wome....noh shit

:bolt:

*has a sudden hot flash and confirms that yes, anything above 40 IS a living, baking hell*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 06, 2009, 09:08:41 PM
Y'all think metric units and weight/mass are difficult concepts, try explaining it so a 6 year old can understand it. Hell, try explaining it so the 6 year old's teacher can understand it. Especially when people measure weight in kilograms because nobody has taken to "weighing" things in newtons (except apples on spring scales).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 06, 2009, 09:40:02 PM
Yeah yeah. JUST WAIT until there are elementary school districts on Mars.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 06, 2009, 09:54:51 PM
*waits impatiently*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 07, 2009, 02:27:34 AM
Quote
Yeah yeah. JUST WAIT until there are elementary school districts on Mars.

Wat? Someone gonna get locked in a closet, miss the one day of sun, and then get all emo about it instead of whipping out a gatt and dealing out some hot-leaded justice?
 :hmm:
Hopefully everyone knows what story I'm referring to or this is going to be awkward. As you can see, that is exactly why I don't write stories. Or ads for hygiene products.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 07, 2009, 09:55:02 AM
Something of 1 kg mass will weigh 2.2 lbs on Earth, but will only weigh 0.3 lbs on Mars. It'll still have 1 kg of mass however.

This (http://www.mcasco.com/qa_gomb.html) was kind of cute. "If something weighs 200 Newtons on Earth" -- this is correct terminology. Weight == force, so it's Newtons ... or pounds.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 07, 2009, 01:20:33 PM
Snowing a little bit here. I think it's cool, the locals are probably flipping-out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 07, 2009, 01:27:22 PM
Hopefully everyone knows what story I'm referring to or this is going to be awkward

I recognized it immediately.

Except it was on Venus.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 07, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
My office is maybe 25 yards from the Issaquah Creek (I'm really bad at judging distances, but it would take less than a minute to walk to it).  Since it's been drizzling for days and all the snow is melted the creek is flooded (http://ahps2.wrh.noaa.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=sew&gage=issw1).  I wish I could take a video of it.  It's moving really fast.  Our parking lot is flooded, which happens all the time, but this probably explains why traffic was so horrible this morning.  If it's at over 10.5 feet then one of the major roads is probably under water.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 07, 2009, 03:24:16 PM
Hopefully everyone knows what story I'm referring to or this is going to be awkward

I recognized it immediately.

Except it was on Venus.

Close enough. I blame VicksQuil
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 07, 2009, 03:41:23 PM
Weight is not nearly as useful a concept as mass.  Weight is just a net force.  They should really teach basic physics (Newtonian mechanics) to elementary school kids, albeit informally (ie, with hands-on physical demonstrations and simple explanations, not math and formulas) -- people almost universally tend to form intuitive misconceptions about mechanics, and it screws them up hugely later on when they try to learn physics.  Plus, I mean, playgrounds are awesome places for demonstrating simple physics.

I always think of weight as momentum, which is wrong, and I get confused, which is a good example of stupid intuitive misconceptions.  Years ago, I had to ask my brother a whole bunch of lame first-year physics questions for an SF story I was writing.  I was driving myself crazy trying to figure this stuff out, and by now, for any questions I don't remember the answers to, I catch myself wonder WTF the answer actually is.

The physics class I had in high school was entertaining but not actually very useful, alas.


ObTopic:  It's 20s and 30s here and on-and-off snowing all week this week.  An inch of snow a day, at most.  Not so bad.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 07, 2009, 03:46:49 PM
My office is maybe 25 yards from the Issaquah Creek (I'm really bad at judging distances, but it would take less than a minute to walk to it).  Since it's been drizzling for days and all the snow is melted the creek is flooded (http://ahps2.wrh.noaa.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=sew&gage=issw1).  I wish I could take a video of it.  It's moving really fast.  Our parking lot is flooded, which happens all the time, but this probably explains why traffic was so horrible this morning.  If it's at over 10.5 feet then one of the major roads is probably under water.

TURN AROUND DON'T DROWN (http://tadd.weather.gov/)

It's worse. (http://www.weather.gov/oh/hic/dirlistings/FLOOD/072019_SEW_Flood_Warning) /han
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 07, 2009, 03:47:46 PM
But... the creek is behind me when I sit at my desk.  I'm slightly more likely to drown if I do turn around.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 07, 2009, 03:51:10 PM
You're supposed to turn around and see the water coming at you so you run like hell in the direction you were already facing.

(is currently googlemapping puyallup)

Huh. I see you have a Tiger Mountain near you (now that I see that the puyallup river is not).
You'll have to use strategy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 07, 2009, 04:15:23 PM
Tiger Mountain isn't just near me, it's practically on top of me.  I have no idea why it's named that.  At least it's plausible that there are cougars on Cougar Mountain.  I have no excuse for "Squak", though.

Now that I think about it, there are cougars on Cougar Mountain.  They're in the Cougar Mountain Zoo.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 07, 2009, 06:20:10 PM
Squak is one of the names the injuns gave the area, "Tiger" I've heard comes from "taggart," possibly some Scotsman who had a claim? Not sure where I read it.

Fabulous area, dem Issaquah Alps. (http://stat.ethz.ch/~dettling/Pictures/Seattle/002.JPG)

If you ever decide to get up there, feff park at the Highway 18 side. Not nearly as many cars, and the first mile is along a gravel road...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 07, 2009, 06:26:06 PM
Oh, we've already been up Tiger and Cougar.  They're in our backyard!

I'd heard that the first settlers named the valley "Squawk".  Then some different settlers came through and asked the... who lived here, Salish? what the name of this place was and they said "Is Squawk" in English, and the settlers said, "Okay, Issaquah."

Probably a dirty lie.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 07, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
No that sounds close. I've heard Squak=Issaquah

I was just thinking last night about the story how Captain Cook named the Nootka up on Vancouver Island. They were telling him "Nootka! Nootka" which meant "go around the harbor."

Stupid white men.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 07, 2009, 07:12:43 PM
Not that I'm necessarily arguing against the Stupid White Men theory, but you gotta remember that these guys felt compelled to give names to every damned thing they say, on the grounds that they were the first white guys who got to give them names.  Or, they at least hoped, the white guys whose names for those things would actually stick.  I doubt they often gave a crap whether or not the name they slapped on something was an accurate local name, etc.  They just weren't great at coming up with names.  Somebody says something, and it's not already a name for something else . . . fine, whatever.

Consider Homer in the Garden of Eden.  Groundmonster.  Branchmonster.  The End.  People in marketing just usually don't care.


In Vermont, one of the more famous mountains is Camel's Hump, which looks not very much like a camel's hump.  Frenchies called it 'Crouching Lion', and it really does look a lot more like, say, the sphinx, in profile.  But I think 'Camel's Hump' caught on because . . . it's vaguely funny, and less pretentious.

I mean . . . Grand Tetons.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 08, 2009, 02:24:06 PM
Wheeeeeee (http://ahps2.wrh.noaa.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=sew&gage=issw1)

When I got to work the entire parking lot was underwater.  I took a cellphone pic but haven't uploaded it yet.  It's probably crap anyway.  Here are some flickr pics (http://flickr.com/search/?s=rec&q=issaquah+&m=text)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 08, 2009, 02:53:39 PM
Ahh... didn't hit the record.

Can you get a do-over? :bolt:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 08, 2009, 04:38:07 PM
Looks like Tiger Mountain is taking you out...by strategy...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 08, 2009, 05:18:43 PM
I mean . . . Grand Tetons.

Not to mention Mollie's Nipple (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&q=Mollie%27s+Nipple&ie=UTF8&ll=37.270809,-112.055182&spn=0.021379,0.029054&t=p&z=15&iwloc=addr)!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 08, 2009, 05:48:11 PM
Wheeeeeee (http://ahps2.wrh.noaa.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=sew&gage=issw1)

When I got to work the entire parking lot was underwater.  I took a cellphone pic but haven't uploaded it yet.  It's probably crap anyway.  Here are some flickr pics (http://flickr.com/search/?s=rec&q=issaquah+&m=text)

That bridge ain't lookin' too good. I hope that's not one you use a lot.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 08, 2009, 07:31:45 PM
The one on SR 18?  Nope.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 08, 2009, 07:58:24 PM
So, it sucks that this lady (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2008601559/29.html) had to be evacuated and all, but they school they sent her to?  Surprise Lake?  That's funny stuff.

Take a look at the whole gallery.  It stretches from the Tacoma area all the way up to Stanwood, just past TOA, and east to Snoqualmie.  Some of those pictures suuuuuuuck.  I'm glad up up here safe on my Plateau.  Yeesh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 08, 2009, 08:16:31 PM
Daaamn. Y'all just can't catch a break from the f'd up weather.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 08, 2009, 08:53:47 PM
Highway 530, the road I take west to Interstate 5 to go south to work, was closed this morning. The Stillaguamish River runs right next to it. It took me three different routes to finally find a road to get out of town, because all the little creeks nearby are flooding roads too.

Here's TV coverage (http://www.king5.com/video/news-index.html?nvid=319883) of what that looked like.

Here's a nice overview (http://www.king5.com/video/news-index.html?nvid=319569) too.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on January 08, 2009, 09:01:01 PM
We're in a not-so-enviable position in this region geographically -- the number of rivers and streams that come out of the Cascade range is mind-boggling.

Which is also going to screw us when we have the Big One -- if a major earthquake hits, probably most of the bridges around here would be damaged. You can't get far here without going over a bridge.

Or, if we have another volcano erupt out of that range? Basically if you live within 50 miles of the mountain, you're fucked.

Right now, my husband is having a hard time getting a prescription filled because the delivery trucks are stuck on the other side of the mountains. I think he's called a half dozen local pharmacies so far, all who are waiting for orders to come in.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 09, 2009, 01:56:47 PM
The office manager wrote at 11:30 last night that the water in the parking lot had gone down 2 feet and would be fine this morning, barring any more heavy rain.  But when I got in it looked almost as bad as yesterday morning.  I was wearing boots and by staying at the very edge of the lot I was able to get through a lot of water that was 3-4 inches deep.  Then I stepped onto where the wheelchair ramp starts and somehow was halfway to my knee in water.  I'm now wearing a coworker's ski pants and my socks, which happened to stay almost dry.  Thanks, Columbia boots!

Anyway, I guess the drain is clogged with mud, which is why the lot didn't drain.  The creek is about at the level it was when I mentioned it 2 days ago, but I can see that yesterday it spilled way over the bank, based on how much mud is on the grass.  It smells delightful here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 09, 2009, 11:16:22 PM
Screenshot of feffer's parking lot after the evacuation:

(http://www.beans-around-the-world.com/photos/snofalls1.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 09, 2009, 11:37:42 PM
What's with the beans?  That's Snoqualmie Falls on a normal day, isn't it?  Now I don't think you could get down to the river like that.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 12, 2009, 03:38:23 PM
We're having a mid-winter heatwave now.  It got up to 74 degrees yesterday.  Cold as fuck overnight the night before though.  We had frost, so that's at least a 42 degree climb.  Relative humidity must have been really low.  Beautiful day today already, it will probably be in the 70s again.  No where near as cold overnight as the night before, so maybe we'll even heat up higher.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 12, 2009, 03:49:40 PM
Goddamn Californians and your warm weather...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 12, 2009, 03:54:25 PM
Hey, we've had a cold winter so far.  The first frost hit in early December decimating the peppers, eggplants, and tomatoes.  Fortunately the second go around of lettuces had already sprouted by then so we still have plenty of fresh lettuce.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 12, 2009, 06:38:36 PM
You jerks.

We have a goddamned BLIZZARD WARNING OMG WTF.

 :bummed:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 12, 2009, 07:10:04 PM
My boss is having sinus problems from how quickly we went to <10% RH today.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 12, 2009, 07:50:00 PM
You jerks.

We have a goddamned BLIZZARD WARNING OMG WTF.

 :bummed:

FOR THE HOOOOOOOOOOOOORDE!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 13, 2009, 11:31:41 AM
It was supposed to be brutally cold this morning.  I dunno.  I dressed Warm, but not Super Warm, and yet I was sweating -- I left the heat off in the car, and I had to take my jacket off while shoveling the sidewalk in front of the shop.  The weather reports claim it's like 17 F, about 5 F with the wind, but it's been sunny on and off (snowing a bit right now) and felt at least 15 degrees warmer than that to me.

The temperature ranges and sun levels have been excellent for icicle formation around here.  I have neighbors whose windows are almost completely blocked by the giant icicles hanging from their eaves, and there's an apartment complex near me that had to block off two of its entrances because of ginormous killer ice stalactites.  My house is completely icicle-free, and at first I was thinking that this is an endorsement of the attic insulation.  But then I remembered that mine is probably the only house in the neighborhood with the thermostat set at 45 F. :lol:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 14, 2009, 09:32:55 AM
Yesterday afternoon, it was 0 C and a little rainy, dropping a bit to -1 then -3 C.
Overnight it was -22 C and it's still -21 C this AM.

UGH.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 14, 2009, 09:36:57 AM
Actually had dinner outside last night.

This is why I paid so much for my house, I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 14, 2009, 09:50:26 AM
Actually had dinner outside last night.

This is why I paid so much for my house, I'm thinking.

:nonplused:

On my way in this morning, I was thinking to myself "This is why my smug Californian friends are smug."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on January 14, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
Zing!

We've got like 2 feet of snow piled up around here and it's still falling.  If it keeps going like this, it might beat the most I've ever been in.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 14, 2009, 03:21:31 PM
It's horrible and cold and snowy here, but . . . honestly, I like it better this way.

And I'd move somewhere worse if it were cheaper.  The only problem with moving further north and living in a mostly handbuilt crazy wilderness house is that I couldn't easily come up with the $15k a year I'd need to live like that.  Otherwise, I'd probably move this summer.

Not sure what I'd do about internets, though.  I've only ever heard bad evaluations of satellite hookups.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 14, 2009, 03:25:34 PM
Six feet of snoooow...coming through my radio... (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_y1m5hPXGsc&feature=channel_page)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 14, 2009, 06:17:41 PM
High temp tomorrow of -3F. Jeeezus. "High temp" should not be allowed that close to "-3F."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 14, 2009, 06:57:49 PM
I was sad because my high temp tomorrow was 5 F until I met a woman whose high temp was -3.


:hmm:

This one doesn't work with the so I stole his shoes -- it's not like he was using them coda.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 14, 2009, 09:40:09 PM
I'm not smug! Actually I'm a little depressed.

If this is what winter is like ...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: pdrake on January 15, 2009, 12:38:18 AM
what he said ^^  :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 15, 2009, 09:27:35 AM
 :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 15, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Yah.  Well.  My tires were frozen to the ground this morning.  I know from VT experience that this sometimes (too often!) means that if you try to drive away, the tires will be pulled loose from the rims, resulting in multiple flat tires . . . still frozen to the ground.  However, I don't know a good method for unfreezing them from the ground -- I've tried rock salt and the like, but it takes forever when it works at all.

So, I  s l o w l y  rocked the car loose, gently, gently, and, fortunately, successfully drove to work.  Actually, to me, it doesn't feel all that cold outside, but it's because there's fairly low humidity and almost no wind.  Humidity + wind = suckage in all temperature extremes. 

On the other hand, it was brightly sunny for about an hour just before I left the house (lucky!), so my car was deiced, and the interior was warm, when I left.  As soon as I got in the car, the clouds immediately returned.  I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 15, 2009, 03:08:42 PM
Wow....I just checked your forecast. Single-digit temps. And here I'm complaining about  the dull dreary wintry Seattle 40s...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 15, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
I'm not smug! Actually I'm a little depressed.

If this is what winter is like ...

No kidding.  We had several days in the 100s last summer.

What I hate the most is scraping frost off my windshield in the morning and then going outside in the afternoon and sweating like a pig.  These 40-50 degree jumps are insane.  I almost grabbed a coat this morning because it was freaking cold and now it's probably mid 70s out there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 15, 2009, 03:42:44 PM
Just move to Lincoln, NE, for a couple of years.  The weather almost anywhere is nice by comparison.  105 F for a week at a time in the summer (and windy and humid) and -5 F for a week at a time in the winter (and windy and humid), and summer and winter = 10 months out of the year.  And it's so dusty even in the winter that the snow's never white for long.

Also, no trees or hills or proper bodies of water.  Yeah, I don't miss that. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 15, 2009, 04:02:34 PM
I don't really have to, seeing as how I spent a good part of my life a mere 166 miles south of there...

Don't really miss it a bit, either, but unfr0tunately, most of my family still calls it home...

I wouldn't really call the winters "humid," though...more like "nosebleed dry."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 15, 2009, 04:33:16 PM
You were too far from the Flatte River.  I just checked the weather there, though, and it's the same as here at the moment except with just 37% humidity.  Maybe I was there during a long wet spell.

Huh.  On Sunday, it's supposed to be 42 F there and 21 F here.  Global warming is being kind to Nebraska.  FOR NOW.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on January 15, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
I wouldn't really call the winters "humid," though...more like "nosebleed dry."

:lol:

It got so cold here last night and today that the weather guy on the news said this morning, "To put this in perspective, the peak of Mount Everest is warmer than it is here right now.  Siberia is warmer than it is here right now.  The south pole is warmer than it is here right now....."

Hahaha.  It is cold outside though.  It doesn't so much feel like it's freezing as it feels like you're being stabbed all over when you step outside.

I should really start wearing underwear in the winter.



Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 16, 2009, 09:34:00 AM
Fuckin freezing here. Old house with old windows so even though we have the heat cranked the cold air pours in the cracks in the frames. The past few days it's been between -17 C (0 F) and -22 C (-8 F) throughout the days and nights. Too cold for me.

ETA: Just checked the weather online and with wind chill right now it's -28 C (-18 F) and tonight it's supposed to go down to -31 C (-24 F) *without* wind chill. Jesus H.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 16, 2009, 09:48:24 AM
 :(

I'd probably handle this the way we handled hurricanes back on the island.

 :drunk:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 16, 2009, 10:02:57 AM
Yeah I wish!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 16, 2009, 10:04:52 AM
Car wouldn't start. When I tried it was -15F and it's already up to a balmy -12F! I think I might've killed the battery tho, damn. A coworker who drives by here is picking me up.

 :thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 16, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
Yeah, my car didn't want to start this morning, and there was more frost inside than outside.  I ran the defroster with the A/C on on my way home last night, but it didn't pull enough of the moisture out of the air. 

A lot of my neighbors have old-fashioned windows (single-glaze) with no storms.  I can't imagine how they're paying for heat.  On the other hand, they're almost all renters, so maybe I can't imagine how their landlords are paying for heat.

My stupid regular winter hat disappeared, and my usual backup hat is loaned out.  Walking 2.5 blocks from my usual parking spot to work was fine except for my ears.  Later, I have to go to the bank for change.  Where the hell did my hat go?  I keep it in the bag of emergency cold-weather gear.  Nothing else was missing, and I haven't worn the hat yet this season.  :eyeroll:

My many-layered torso insulation was actually more than necessary, though.  I honestly wanted to unzip my jacket, but there were so many people looking so miserably cold that I didn't want to be a jerk about it . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 16, 2009, 11:28:11 AM
Can you put plastic on the windows, hajen?  That's what my parents do for their hundred-ish year-old farmhouse.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 16, 2009, 11:28:48 AM
You loaned out your hat, Axe?  It wasn't to one of your coworkers, was it?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 16, 2009, 11:36:59 AM
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It wasn't to one of your coworkers, was it?

I think we all know the answer to that one.  It's not that I wouldn't have loaned it out to my friends; my cow-orkers just outnumber my local friends.

I have other winter hats (not to mention helmets), but most of them are in storage, with my camping stuff, and not easily accessible.  I'd be self-conscious walking down the street in a helmet.  If I really need to, I can go to CVS on the corner and get a 'fleece' hat for $3.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 16, 2009, 11:37:18 AM
Coldest day in five years here.  Supposed to be colder tomorrow!  Yay, woodstove!!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 16, 2009, 11:47:07 AM
Yeah, you should have seen the faces on the Goddard guys when they left here yesterday. Looked like someone shot their cat.

I told them to drive through Malibu on the way to LAX to make it extra poignant.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 16, 2009, 12:20:38 PM
We could, but the heat is included in the rent.  :D
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on January 16, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
I don't even have my heat turned on.  Hell, I've still got a window half open.

Yeah, my apartment is naturally warm.  Body heat + computers + water pipe heat in walls + downstairs neighbors and building heat = always too warm.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 16, 2009, 03:33:03 PM
We all know that next to Nex is the hottest place in the Universe.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on January 16, 2009, 06:46:20 PM
Because anyone will look hotter next to Nex?

BA DUM TISH

:fyp:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 17, 2009, 11:11:15 AM
Twelve degrees warmer this morning than yesterday morning, and no windier, but it's somehow MUCH effing colder out there.  Humidity's slightly lower, today, too.  Beats the hell out of me, but there's no contest.  I did find my winter hat, which had somehow wound up between the passenger seat and the door, beneath the seat-adjustment lever.

My feet were actually uncomfortably cold after the walk from my parking space to work, and that never happens.

Of course, when I got here, it turned out they'd forgotten to turn the heat down last night.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 17, 2009, 09:40:55 PM
I didn't manage to give myself sunburn on my knees, but came close. I need a better energy conversion system - maybe I can steal one from the cats.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 19, 2009, 01:04:48 AM
Inch of snow.
Yup, everyone's panicking.  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on January 19, 2009, 08:50:36 PM
Saturday at the birthday party in Half Moon Bay it was 75.  Poor Ian jumped in the bounce house for hours and probably drank a gallon of juice.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 20, 2009, 06:29:55 PM
And...the fog is back....

In typical fashion, we get our first sunbreak (http://images.earthcam.com/spaceneedle/live.php) an hour before sunset
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 24, 2009, 02:15:11 AM
60F this afternoon. 29F right now.

WEAK
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on January 24, 2009, 09:49:30 AM
Werd.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 24, 2009, 11:47:40 AM
It got up to 34 yesterday!!!!

Down to 4 now.  :bummed:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 24, 2009, 12:08:05 PM
It's been drizzling nonstop since Wednesday. Hello, Portland? Yes, I can't thank you enough, but you can have your weather back now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 24, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
It hasn't rained in Seattle in    avoe rnovaneoirvaerhbeur;e//  ;;;;;
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on January 24, 2009, 02:14:19 PM
Apparently that's classified information.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on January 24, 2009, 03:42:25 PM
It's really pretty here today, despite the 12F out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on January 24, 2009, 05:53:07 PM
I'm not sure whose weather this is, but it sucks.

Just too freakin' cold to do anything.

At least there's a good sunset waiting in a few hours if I can motivate myself.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 28, 2009, 06:16:04 PM
A coworker has been trying to take a certain class for years. The last two times she was approved, it was cancelled due to not enough people, and somebody up the line thought that software support folks didn't need to know how to use the tools. She finally got approved last Friday, for a class that started Monday.

Today, they've had an earthquake (http://www.news9.com/global/story.asp?s=9745183), and the class was not held due to the city being snowed in.

There's no restaurant in her hotel, nor one nearby.

I think she needs to retake the class, and it needs to be held at the Honolulu VA.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 30, 2009, 12:19:05 PM
I've been waiting for a package to arrive out of the Memphis FedEx hub.

Their weather this morning was Freezing Fog.  :confused:

Doesn't that break some kind of laws of physics?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 30, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
Fog is made of tiny water droplets that don't fall very fast so they stay suspended in the air. In this case, they happen to be frozen (but for some reason aren't growing crystals that would turn them into snowflakes, and i don't know that reason, maybe eldiem would). But they don't get any denser just because they're ice. In fact, freshwater ice is less dense than liquid water at 4C. This is why lakes freeze from the top down.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 30, 2009, 02:45:53 PM
This is why lakes freeze from the top down.


 :hmm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 30, 2009, 03:03:30 PM
SCIENCE.

If you want to stun somebody with this knowledge, use this: A lake is frozen at the surface, but water is liquid at the bottom. What is the temperature of the water at the bottom?

Always it is 4C (39.2F). Once it gets colder than that it starts forming hydrogen bonds, actually pushing the molecules apart, making the solution less dense, so it floats. But you don't get the full ice crystalline structure until you get to 0C.

MORE INFORMATION:

The crystal structure of ice also isn't big enough to fit salt ions in the interstices between the water molecules, so the salt is squeezed out when seawater freezes. Actually the salt is all sequestered in little pockets of very saline brine, which, given time, melt their way out of the ice and dissolve into the water below, making it more dense and sinky. Freshly formed sea ice, you cannot melt and drink, it's still got the brine pockets in it. However, older multiyear sea ice? You can drink that, because most of the brine will have worked its way out of the ice.

It is unlikely you will ever have to make practical use of this information unless you are the second coming of Fridhjof Nansen, but ... there you go. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 30, 2009, 03:09:37 PM
That's all fascinating, seriously, but are you saying that air temperature at the surface is not the cause of the ice on the surface? Well... obviously it is, but I mean, the cold air contacting the surface of the water, causing it to freeze before the water below?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 30, 2009, 03:23:18 PM
Yeah. But the ice floats. If ice got denser than water, it would sink to the bottom, no matter where it's formed.  In fact you could argue it wouldn't form at all, because it'd melt as it convects.

:hmm:

Actually the lake would just get colder and colder and would probably freeze all at once, ka-blam.

That would be cool. Unless you're in the Polar Bear swim club, then it would be kind of tense.

I wonder if that happens on Titan? I don't think hydrocarbons have an inflection in their temperature-density curve, the way water does.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 30, 2009, 03:27:42 PM
I still don't understand why I float  :P

In other news:  Winter storm causes massive Kentucky outage (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/weather/01/30/winter.weather/?iref=hpmostpop)

Uh-oh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 30, 2009, 03:31:24 PM
I still don't understand why I float  :P

Lipids*cough* ok you knew that already.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on January 30, 2009, 03:34:40 PM
Very small stones are full of lipids? No wonder they skip so well!

*Wonders about the pig herders...*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 30, 2009, 06:43:27 PM
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Always it is 4C (39.2F).

Well, it's always more complicated than that if you look closely enough.  On smaller and smaller scales, water behaves much more strangely than at the visible scale.  And even in really cold ice, some molecules are always kicked off the surface to evaporate (sublimate), which is one of the big reasons why your ice cubes shrivel up if you leave the tray in the freezer too long.  I always heard this explained as a statistical model thing, but I was recently incomprehensibly told it's more of a brownian motion thing, and I do not understand it.

Lots of materials (most of them) that form all the major physical phases are denser in solid form than in liquid form, so if you want to know what would happen if ice was denser than liquid water, heat up some lead until it's liquid and then watch it cool.  In practice, what happens is that thin patches solidify on the surface but have too much displacement / too little weight to defeat surface tension, and so they float anyway.  If they sink, they melt again as they hit the hotter liquid below.  So you tend to eventually get a skin forming on the top (and, depending on the thermal conductivity of the container, the other edges as well).

Seriously, don't melt a bunch of lead and then (A) spill it or (B) inhale the fumes.  That's a thought experiment.

I don't know WTF happens on Titan, et al.  They just revealed that Jupiter does get liquid helium rain, though.  Maybe even liquid superfluid metallic hydrogen rain, which would probably be superconducting, which made me wonder what lightning looks like through superconducting rain.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 30, 2009, 06:56:23 PM
Oh.  Also, I've always been told that the specific gravity of the average human body is slightly over 1 (like 1.05, or something), and that you wouldn't float if not for the air trapped in various parts of your body (and the low-density pleural cavities, for that matter).  Blood is slightly denser than water, and bones are like 1.5 to 2.  Fat, yeah, is floaty.

Naked corpses generally won't sink until the lungs fill up with water pretty good.  They tend to float again after bacterial activity (fermentation, if you will) produces more trapped gas.  I forget how long that usually takes.  Michael Baden undoubtedly knows.

Personally, I tend to float a bit below the waterline and almost flunked Junior Lifesaving as a result.  I have a lot more bodyfat now and would probably float a lot better.  It's better to be a little buoyant if you're a swimmer because it means you get more elastic energy return every time your body moves lower in the water.  It's an energy-storage system.  I mean, mechanically, even, beyond the caloric thing.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 30, 2009, 07:54:24 PM
Very small stones are full of lipids? No wonder they skip so well!

*Wonders about the pig herders...*

Nah. Nothing to do with lipids. Just years of honing the ability to contain and manage absolute evil by bringing treats home and keeping the hay rack filled.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: eldiem on January 30, 2009, 11:31:22 PM
Fog is made of tiny water droplets that don't fall very fast so they stay suspended in the air. In this case, they happen to be frozen (but for some reason aren't growing crystals that would turn them into snowflakes, and i don't know that reason, maybe eldiem would). But they don't get any denser just because they're ice. In fact, freshwater ice is less dense than liquid water at 4C. This is why lakes freeze from the top down.


Freezing rain (or fog) is super-cooled water. That is, on its way down, it went from snow flakes (all rain in our latitudes starts as snowflakes) to melty rain as the layer of air it fell through got warmer, then with freezing precip, you get a layer of colder air - a temperature inversion - wherein the liquid water becomes super-cooled.  8) Then, similar to how a super-saturated solution falls out of solution, when it comes in contact with a surface, it freezes instantly.
 :geek:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 31, 2009, 06:49:31 AM
Holy exploding hyena shit did we ever dodge a planet-sized bullet. There's some damage here from the ice storm - but Louisville got absolutely nuked.

http://www.courier-journal.com/winterstorm

The galleries are on the right hand side. Use Adblock to get rid of the annoying ads. (Don't use Adblock Plus because they whitelist a mile long list ads. Kind of defeats the purpose.) Ye gods. I am so grateful we aren't sitting here in the freezing cold and dark. Ugh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 31, 2009, 06:50:41 AM
I'm reading up on fog at 6am on a Saturday morning. WTF is wrong with me?

I have to admit, I've always found fog to be fascinating for some reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog is pretty interesting.

Quote from: the section on types of fog:
Ice fog is any kind of fog where the droplets have frozen into extremely tiny crystals of ice in midair. Generally this requires temperatures at or below −35 °C (−30 °F), making it common only in and near the Arctic and Antarctic regions. It is most often seen in urban areas where it is created by the freezing of water vapor present in automobile exhaust and combustion -products from heating and power generation. Urban ice fog can become extremely dense and will persist day and night until the temperature rises. Extremely small amounts of ice fog falling from the sky form a type of precipitation called ice crystals, often reported in Barrow, Alaska. Ice fog often leads to the visual phenomenon of light pillars.

Freezing fog occurs when liquid fog droplets freeze to surfaces, forming white rime ice. This is very common on mountain tops which are exposed to low clouds. It is equivalent to freezing rain, and essentially the same as the ice that forms inside a freezer which is not of the "frostless" or "frost-free" type. In some areas such as in the State of Oregon, the term "freezing fog" refers to fog where water vapor is super-cooled filling the air with small ice crystals similar to very light snow. It seems to make the fog "tangible", as if one could "grab a handful".

That last part is what I find particularly fascinating. I'd love to experience that.



Quote from: an Alaska Science Forum on Ice Fog:
In a research paper Benson wrote in 1965, he scouted the sources of water vapor in Fairbanks. He found the cooling water dumped from power plants into local rivers and sloughs accounted for 64 percent of the manmade water sources that could end up as ice fog. Gasoline combustion made up only 3 percent, but that 3 percent hangs where we drive.

Although not nearly the ice-fog machines that vehicles are, humans also are to blame. In his report, Benson calculated people in the Fairbanks area exhaled and sweated about 58 tons of water vapor into the air each day in 1964. Benson even averaged the water output of Fairbanks' dog population. He estimated there were about 2,000 outdoor dogs in Fairbanks in 1964. Those 2,000 resting dogs exhaled a little more than a half ton of water each day into the air, which Benson deemed "a conservative estimate because all of the dogs don't rest all of the time."

Heh. Alaska science. It works in mysterious ways.


Flickr set of weird crystals formed during ice fog. (http://flickr.com/photos/profjosh/sets/72157603455836614/)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 31, 2009, 06:55:54 AM
Holy exploding hyena shit did we ever dodge a planet-sized bullet. There's some damage here from the ice storm - but Louisville got absolutely nuked.

http://www.courier-journal.com/winterstorm

The galleries are on the right hand side. Use Adblock to get rid of the annoying ads. (Don't use Adblock Plus because they whitelist a mile long list ads. Kind of defeats the purpose.) Ye gods. I am so grateful we aren't sitting here in the freezing cold and dark. Ugh.

Yeah - I saw that yesterday:

I still don't understand why I float  :P

In other news:  Winter storm causes massive Kentucky outage (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/weather/01/30/winter.weather/?iref=hpmostpop)

Uh-oh.

I could just hear the SQUEEEEEE!!!! SQUEEEEE!!!

I'm glad y'all missed it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on January 31, 2009, 12:14:37 PM
We used to get that kind of ice fog, as seen in the Flickr pictures, in VT, too.  Mountainy areas get weird little weather phenomena because of air moving up and down the slopes between regions of strongly different temperatures.  They get stronger phenomena (Chinooks, etc) in more steeply mountainous regions, but I think the flipside is that they occur less often.

Where I used to live, my house was, I don't know, maybe 500-800' higher than the river at the bottom of the road.  At the house, it was super-dry; down at the riverbend, it was far more humid.  On winter mornings, the bus would go past the river where it widened and slowed at a dam, and there would be columns of ice vapor rising from the water every few feet as it sublimated right into the air.  It was very . . . fake-looking.  :lol:  Just really weird.

When I lived right on the coast, I was always amazed by how alarming the ocean looked during a good winter storm.  There's some trick of perspective so that when the water turns grayer and is more churned-up, under a flatter light, the horizon appears more vertically separated and less horizontally, so that you get the impression that the water is always about to rush up onto the land.  Later, when I read Frost's poem about how it looked like the ocean was thinking of doing something to the land that it hadn't done before, I knew what he meant . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 31, 2009, 01:17:52 PM
All that ice that built up during the storm is melting. We were fortunate the other day when we escaped the house not to be hit by a sheet of ice that ejected itself from an SUV. The lady two cars in front of us wasn't so fortunate. Bye bye windshield.

Fuckheads that don't remove ice and snow from their cars end up causing damage and accidents. Now that it's warm enough for an honest melt - I'm kind of worried about the impending carnage because people here just do not understand how this shit works. I'm going to attempt to institute a household travel ban on all highways until the ice is completely gone.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on January 31, 2009, 01:58:37 PM
Gawds. Glad you did dodge that one. How far are you from Louhvul now?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: pdrake on January 31, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
All that ice that built up during the storm is melting. We were fortunate the other day when we escaped the house not to be hit by a sheet of ice that ejected itself from an SUV. The lady two cars in front of us wasn't so fortunate. Bye bye windshield.

wow, that's something i've never even thought about. glad it missed you.

i bet the insurance companies consider that to be an "act of god".
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 31, 2009, 02:28:30 PM
I've seen those coming off tractor trailers flying down the interstate. Big chunks. You don't want to be following closely.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on January 31, 2009, 04:03:29 PM
Gawds. Glad you did dodge that one. How far are you from Louhvul now?

An hour and change. We went out on a carnage cruise today. It's kind of eerie. We were in a lighter patch (in spite of my Flickr pics) of the stuff. 'Hoods nearby got socked. There are plenty of people still without power and temps have been in the teens at night.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on January 31, 2009, 06:10:33 PM
Whoa, that's some serious ice.

I like this pic a lot (I cropped out the truck parked sideways in the road  :confused: ). This is scaled down and low res and doesn't really do it justice.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/1777-.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on January 31, 2009, 10:24:02 PM
Ice storms are the worst.  You all made the national news this week, but I've been following you on the innernet so I knew you had the powah.

During our big ice storm several years ago they had to close off 31st Street because the huge TV tower was bombing big chunks on the road and hitting cars during the thaw.

(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9443/kcmotvtowerneighborhoodvi5.jpg)

Oh, and there was a lady whose husband got in the car, she put her kid in the back seat and walked around to the driver's side, and just as she grabbed the handle to open the car door, an electrical wire snapped and landed on the hood.  She died.  Isn't that freaky?


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on February 01, 2009, 09:44:20 AM
That's a big ass tower. Are you sure that's not a Doomsday device?

Google Street View (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=125+E+31st+St,+Kansas+City,+MO&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.089956,70.751953&ie=UTF8&ll=39.069958,-94.582554&spn=0.001481,0.002159&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.069962,-94.58267&panoid=ehIk2fFJFIyFcgW5DUo48A&cbp=12,349.70450490074313,,0,-40)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on February 01, 2009, 09:46:45 AM
I'm reading up on fog at 6am on a Saturday morning. WTF is wrong with me?

I'm so off my game.

 :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on February 01, 2009, 09:49:00 AM
That's a big ass tower. Are you sure that's not a Doomsday device?

Google Street View (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=125+E+31st+St,+Kansas+City,+MO&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.089956,70.751953&ie=UTF8&ll=39.069958,-94.582554&spn=0.001481,0.002159&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.069962,-94.58267&panoid=ehIk2fFJFIyFcgW5DUo48A&cbp=12,349.70450490074313,,0,-40)

Tesla is ALIVE!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on February 01, 2009, 10:46:11 AM
They had a great show about Tesla on one of the science / history / discovery cable channels yesterday.

That tower is just our local CBS affiliate's.  A lot of people in town never realize this, but it'll tell you the weather forecast.  If it's going to get colder, the lights on the tower will blink in a downward progression.  If it's going to get hotter, the lights will blink in an upward direction.   

top third flashing = thunderstorm watch / tornado watch / winter weather advisory
two thirds flashing = thunderstorm warning / winter weather warning
all lights flashing = tornado warning / highly threatening weather
Can't see any lights? = foggy

I just read on Wikipedia that they stopped doing the light thingy after 9/11.  Damn terrorists are destroying America with Meteorolojihad.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 01, 2009, 12:03:23 PM
Those towers are hilarious.  If they're not in your view, at least.  A friend of a friend is a developer who was contacted by a cell phone company about putting a tower up on a vacant lot he owned outside of Boston.  They had a whole sheaf of literature for him, including how he could make way extra $$$ by making it a BIG tower and putting other kinds of antennae on there.  They even had a recommended service that would make a scale model of the neighborhood . . . with a not-to-scale smaller model of the tower . . . for winning over zoning boards. :trance:

I never heard what happened with that, but that's OK.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 01, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
I remember that tower!

We've got some hella towers ourselves.

Everyone knows they're completely harmless.

Madison Street (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=47.615692,-122.308848&spn=0,359.997253&z=19&layer=c&cbll=47.615692,-122.308848&panoid=ZJ63Np4m_Au2_rxcQp6wFw&cbp=12,292.70189952731124,,0,-10.95594128115487)

Queen Anne (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=152+Galer+St,+Seattle,+WA,&sll=47.631373,-122.351367&sspn=0,359.978199&ie=UTF8&ll=47.631301,-122.352676&spn=0.003196,0.0109&z=17&layer=c&cbll=47.632313,-122.353752&panoid=yiwpd5OiRdXvyJ76IJVPGg&cbp=12,251.41532890782833,,0,-0.5319851791724963)

Frying the brains of the affluent...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on February 01, 2009, 10:42:33 PM
I like those towers.  If you squint enough you can pretend you're in Paris.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 07, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
52 F and sunny.  Snow melting everywhere.

I guarantee it's warmer outside right now than inside my house.  I want to go home and open the windows.  This won't last . . . .

But after I get out of here I have to go to the Archives to see how much water is in the basement there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on February 07, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
66, sunny, occasional light breeze. It's friggin' beautiful here. Supposed to be even a little bit nicer tomorrow.

I crawled out of my burrow and did some yard work. My arm is numb, and shaking, but I feel good other than that. Nice to get some exercise.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 07, 2009, 04:50:21 PM
That's pretty much the problem with winter...

Cold temperatures.

/yogi berra filter
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on February 09, 2009, 12:14:05 AM
Quote
MREF MEMBERS SUGGEST A HIGH LIKELIHOOD FOR A PRE-FRONTAL TONGUE OF LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE...

OH HELL YES, PLEASE.

Quote
...PERHAPS AS FAR AS THE WESTERN SLOPES OF THE APPALACHIANS...AHEAD OF A VIGOROUS SHORT WAVE TROUGH ACCELERATING THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY DURING THE DAY.  STRONGLY FORCED CONVECTION WILL BE EMBEDDED WITHIN A VERY STRONG MEAN ENVIRONMENTAL FLOW /GREATER THAN 50 KT/ CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING CONSIDERABLE DAMAGING WIND GUSTS...EVEN IF THERMODYNAMIC PROFILES BECOME DECREASINGLY FAVORABLE FOR LIGHTNING ACTIVITY WITH EASTWARD PROGRESSION.

Okay, the rest of that is DO NOT WANT except for the reduced lightning.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 09, 2009, 07:02:51 AM
SNOW??

YOU bastards....  :whatever:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on February 09, 2009, 12:13:09 PM
Snow.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on February 09, 2009, 12:15:22 PM
s'noooooooooooo!!!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 09, 2009, 01:16:17 PM
40 F.  Supposed to hit 45.  Over 60 tomorrow.  Some rain.

Not supposed to drop below freezing here again until Canada regroups on Thursday night.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on February 10, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Shit.

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5591/2102009td6.jpg)

I'm going to have to put together some sort of evil empire.

I crave the southern hemisphere.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on February 10, 2009, 04:44:59 PM
Less than a week ago it was as cold as it's gotten this winter (-29 C) and now it's shot up to the warmest (today it's 8 C). Half the piles of snow out there melted, iced over in the night, and now are melting again.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on February 10, 2009, 04:46:40 PM
It feels like spring here today - sunny, breezy, and in the high sixties.

I should go outside, but it's easier to GIS 'outside' than actually get up.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 11, 2009, 06:11:47 PM
Annnnd . . . we're back:

Quote
Tonight: Rain before 1am, then rain and snow likely between 1am and 4am, then snow likely after 4am. Low around 33. Windy, with a south wind 16 to 19 mph becoming west northwest between 27 and 30 mph. Winds could gust as high as 50 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

One degree above freezing, wet as hell, and 50 MPH winds tonight?  I think I'll stay inside.

Stays windy and damp the rest of the week, but we start having high temps around freezing.  Nothing to be surprised about, but it won't be great for business.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on February 11, 2009, 06:13:19 PM
Looks like it's going to be a wet three day weekend in this part of the world, at least outside.

This does throw a wrench into the plans to go to a drive-in, though. (Magpy's never been to one.)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on February 21, 2009, 12:07:48 PM
It's in the 20s, it's what the weather people call 'breezy' but everyone else calls 'that damned wind' (25 mph wind might be 'breezy' when the temp is above 50 F), and the snow is constant and small, nasty, not pretty, vision-obscuring.

And we're supposed to get 5-7 inches of it.  It's not the kind of snow that looks like it's going to build up much.  Be obnoxious, yes, but the way it's piling up is deceptive.  It's coming down more horizontally than vertically, but it all comes to rest somewhere.  Usually not somewhere convenient.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on March 01, 2009, 09:39:56 PM
Oh dear bob it's nice to have a normal back-to-the-real-Seattle weather again..if just for one day...</bowie>

(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7752/seattle1.jpg)

:thud:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 05, 2009, 03:46:22 PM
Weather report said high of 48 F today.

It's WAY warmer than that.  I wish I'd opened a couple of windows before I left for work.  Gov't weather report says it's 58 F out there right now.  Sunny and windy.  I wish I were getting out of work before it got dark out there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on March 07, 2009, 07:09:16 PM
Rain.  Lots of rain, with a jumbo side of damp.  Chill, cold, dank, and bad for the joints.

It started raining last night and is supposed to keep raining until maybe Monday morning.  AND we lose an hour.  Bugger this for a dog's errand.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 03, 2009, 10:25:51 PM
Weather...to believe it or not, NOAA is telling me

AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING OFFSHORE WILL PROVIDE
DRIER WEATHER STARTING TONIGHT. AFTER A COLD NIGHT...SATURDAY WILL
WARM UNDER MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES WITH TEMPERATURES REACHING TOWARD
NORMAL VALUES. CLEAR AND EVEN WARMER WEATHER WILL LAST THROUGH
TUESDAY WITH OFFSHORE FLOW AT THE SURFACE AND HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT


So I'm like....SO there on the Island for the year's first campout... :detta:

Wish me luck in managing to overcome the advanced camera features....

Here's hoping for at least a decent sunset...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on April 04, 2009, 02:51:52 AM
Jeff Renner is forecasting lows in the 20s and low 30s tonight, dude... stay warm...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on April 04, 2009, 10:14:51 AM
16 C on Thursday, our warmest day yet. High winds all through last night rattling the windows; this morning it is 1 C - and snowing. ARGH.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 04, 2009, 10:18:55 AM
Yeah, it was warmish here yesterday, but there was ice on my windshield this morning.  It actually felt warm out this morning -- I didn't zip my jacket -- but the weather people say it's 36 F.

I was told yesterday that it was going to rain all day today, but now the forecast is Mostly Sunny.  Uh-huh.  Yesterday, they told me we were going to have a big snowstorm on Monday.  I'm not going to assume anything.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on April 06, 2009, 08:15:32 AM
IT IS SNOWING OUT WTF APRIL!?!? >=(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 06, 2009, 10:22:54 AM
Yah.  Four inches of heavy wet snow overnight, and it's still snowing pretty good.

On the other hand, this is good for my allergies.

I hope the meteorologists are all earworming Prince right now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 06, 2009, 10:24:20 AM
:galm: I heard that song was about fallout. 1986 was a very strange year, and I don't mean :tal: 's hairstyle
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 06, 2009, 10:29:00 AM
What?  Oh, I choose not to believe that.

Maybe you were thinking of Kate Bush.  If not, I heartily recommend it!








She also did a catchy song about orgone accumulators.  In the video, she got Donald Sutherland to play Reich.



edit:  I believe 1986 was strange.  I meant the thing about Prince.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: First Post on April 06, 2009, 03:15:23 PM
Cloudbusting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRHA9W-zExQ). Kate Bush: yeah, still pretty badass.

Maybe the fallout song is actually Chocolate Rain? Some stay dry and others feel the pain, because they weren't able to make it to a bomb shelter.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 15, 2009, 05:39:09 PM
interview with Kate re: the Cloudbusting video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6uwLznbW2E&feature=related) -- OMG IT'S MARTHA :thud:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 15, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
PS: It's windier than fuck out there. I just saw a little anime chick get sucked back into a large building by a cross-breeze blowing down a crossing corridor.  :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on April 15, 2009, 08:44:35 PM
Rule 34.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on April 15, 2009, 09:34:56 PM
Rule 34.

You.......... you went there.   :shock:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 15, 2009, 10:27:41 PM
That was approximately my first thought, too, cookieface.  I just couldn't think of such an elegant way to put it.

I'm thinking, not for the first time, that maybe that should get promoted to Rule 1.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on April 15, 2009, 10:52:26 PM
Going back a few days on one of Hajen's links: http://www.postmodernbarney.com/2009/04/the-internet/

Rule 34 is definitely in effect.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 16, 2009, 12:56:06 AM
Rule 34 on today's fantastic unexpected bout of sunshine and (for me) shorts-wearing temps. I'm sure there was porn to be had somewhere....

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/3446984846_2d20ba4f8a.jpg)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 16, 2009, 02:42:38 PM
Quote
Going back a few days on one of Hajen's links: http://www.postmodernbarney.com/2009/04/the-internet/

INTERMINATE!  INTERMINATE!



The weather here is quite lovely, in fact.  That approximately doubles our sales, so I'm definitely not complaining.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on April 16, 2009, 04:30:14 PM
It's fucking gorgeous here. 17 C and sunny. Supposed to be the same tomorrow too.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 19, 2009, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: national weather cervix
...UNSEASONABLY HOT WEATHER EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ACROSS MUCH OF
SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA THROUGH TUESDAY WITH POTENTIAL RECORD HEAT...

A STRONG UPPER LEVEL RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE COMBINED WITH OFFSHORE
FLOW NEAR THE SURFACE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING THE THREAT OF RECORD
HEAT FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA THROUGH TUESDAY.

OFFSHORE WINDS BROUGHT SIGNIFICANT WARMING TO MOST OF THE REGION
ON SUNDAY...WITH MANY COASTAL AND VALLEY AREAS SOARING WELL INTO
THE 90S. ON MONDAY...TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY BE A FEW DEGREES WARMER
IN MOST INLAND LOCATIONS. IN FACT...SOME OF THE WARMEST VALLEY LOCATIONS
COULD ACTUALLY REACH 100 DEGREES. THE OFFSHORE FLOW CONDITION WILL
BRING ANOTHER ROUND OF VERY WARM TEMPERATURES TO THE COASTAL PLAIN
ON MONDAY...WITH READINGS WELL INTO THE 90S ONCE AGAIN. LOW
TEMPERATURES ACROSS MANY FOOTHILL AND LOWER MOUNTAIN LOCATIONS WILL
BE QUITE WARM TONIGHT AND MONDAY NIGHT...WITH READINGS REMAINING WELL
INTO THE 70S THROUGH THE NIGHT.

Ouch. Ok, I regret complaining about the cold last week now
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on April 19, 2009, 07:48:17 PM
It broke 100 F here. Where the hell did Spring go?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on April 19, 2009, 08:30:56 PM
I actually dimly recall such temperatures...in a dim twilight of a past...far far away...

Although it's 62 here. EVERYBODY PANIC.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 20, 2009, 11:32:30 AM
We're supposed to get snow tomorrow and upper-70s sun on Friday.

It's a variable climate.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on April 22, 2009, 03:20:36 PM
It's a variable climate.

Well that's true, but it's only indirectly related to the weather.

Speaking of variable weather ... This time Monday, 90F. This time today, 60F.
Go figure


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Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on April 25, 2009, 01:08:13 PM
I was told that this weekend would be clear and sunny, and then we'd have rain on Monday.  I left a couple of windows open before I left for work this morning.

I get to work, and now the forecast is somewhat different.  To wit:  Tropical Storm Large Marge is passing through right now, and we're supposed to have severe storms all the way into tomorrow, followed by scattered thunderstorms until Tuesday night.  I have several hours off on Monday and was going to try to do some landscaping to keep water out of my basement.

I guess that will have to wait until later.  I hope not too much water has gotten into my house through the windows I left open.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: First Post on May 02, 2009, 05:06:26 PM
Tornado headed this way in ten minutes. Yay for springtime in East Texas.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 02, 2009, 05:11:29 PM
I miss those damn things. My brother's been e-mailing me nailbiting storm dramatics the past few days...

And here: Yesterday was one of the most fantastically sunny days yet this year. Nothing like PacNW Stockholm Syndrome.

Today: the Real Seattle Day(TM) once again. The warmer temps tend to make up for it a little. 40 and rainy, yecch. 55 and rainy is somewhat nice, with the spring smells in the air.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: First Post on May 02, 2009, 06:01:04 PM
survived!  :headbang:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on May 02, 2009, 06:04:34 PM
 :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 02, 2009, 06:20:15 PM
Tornado headed this way in ten minutes. Yay for springtime in East Texas.



That's why the powers that be taught us to make booze. Booze, basement, boobies. The way to go.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on May 13, 2009, 08:20:40 PM
We've got those green tornado skies right now, but since the sun is setting, it's pink and green.  Looks neat.


Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 13, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
I remember the first time I saw the green sky. I was like, KRYPTONITE! LOOK OUT, SUPERMAN
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 20, 2009, 01:29:54 AM
Rained like a mofo late afternoon. Unusually awesome, complete with expected single supercell boomer and bonus yellowy light right before an incredible sunset.

So that's it, man, I've been jonesing to head out and, according to NOAA, anyway, the sun has penciled in a few key appearances for the rest of the week, albeit a little cooler tempwise. Should beat the Mem Day crowd here nonetheless for the next few days, me and the bike:

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8962/pugetsound.jpg)

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on May 20, 2009, 04:47:17 AM
GO man GO
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 26, 2009, 05:28:09 PM
Definitely outdid myself this time. :detta:

The X's are where I stayed, the lines are where the riding was, the centerpiece being the whole traverse of the Beloved Island in two days on the way back...

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8272/130miles.jpg)

Beautiful sunny days, probably still a little cool for most of the BC Continuum(TM), I doubt if it reached 70 the whole time, but it's perfect for hiking and riding, definitely a visible lack of sweat.

Chilly at night, though. lows in the 40s. I was ready for war clothing-wise, and decided to tough it out in my fleece bag. Fortunately I was too tired from all the day's activities to ponder too much about whether I was freezing my ass off or not...;)

Should have some pics up soon at the site (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whidbey). I'm getting a little better w/the Xsi. It's hard work taking decent pictures... :gripe:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on May 26, 2009, 07:36:40 PM
Damn. Great.
/envious
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on May 27, 2009, 04:20:44 PM
Pouring so hard that you can hardly see across the street.  We have a few minor leaks.  Frickin' condo bastards . . . .
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on May 29, 2009, 10:19:40 PM
80 degrees!!!
 :trance: :trance: :trance: :trance: :trance: :trance: :trance:

 :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

 :googily: :googily: :googily: :googily: :googily:

 :knotty: :knotty: :knotty: :knotty:


OK, y'all can laugh now...

Bonus: the free outdoor Built to Spill show rocked at the UW... :jam:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on May 30, 2009, 12:09:50 AM
It was AWESOME today!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 11, 2009, 04:01:49 AM
Obnoxious early AM boomers rolling in.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on June 11, 2009, 08:06:51 AM
June Gloom is lasting all day instead of being a morning event.

On the plus side, it's not getting above 90F yet.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on June 11, 2009, 01:51:51 PM
It is unseasonably warm and clear here for June... mid and upper 70s.

Please keep this to yourselves. We don't want anyone knowing that it isn't a typical drizzly, overcast June here.  ;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 11, 2009, 01:56:25 PM
It is unseasonably warm and clear here for June... mid and upper 70s.

Please keep this to yourselves. We don't want anyone knowing that it isn't a typical drizzly, overcast June here.  ;)

It's the one out of two days when there's sunshine. Yeah, that's the ticket.  :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on June 11, 2009, 05:32:10 PM
We had the typical marine layer in the morning which burned off.  Now it's probably in the mid 70s and sunny.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 15, 2009, 11:49:19 AM
It is unseasonably warm and clear here for June... mid and upper 70s.

Please keep this to yourselves. We don't want anyone knowing that it isn't a typical drizzly, overcast June here.  ;)

It's the one out of two days when there's sunshine. Yeah, that's the ticket.  :P

Absomalutely...

Me? I'm visiting family here in KS.

Experienced my first t-storm action in 15 years last week. :detta:

The weather here has been uncannily Western WA-like otherwise: mid-70s.  Even the sunsets.

Buuuut...starting Wed the temps climb up into the 90s.  :thumbsdn: Humidity over 80 percent.

I knew there was a good reason why I flew the coop here...



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Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 16, 2009, 12:10:13 AM
Every single nasty thunderstorm system has passed either to the north or to the south of us since we've been here, and today was no different.  :detta: :detta: :detta: :detta: :detta: The one exception which was the Obligatory First Week After We Move In Hell Storm.

I could get used to this.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 16, 2009, 01:14:19 AM
The same thing happened here in KS tonight, and I feel a bit cheated.

Still rained like heck, though. And crackly lightning... :googily:

So weird to be out in hot steamy rain once again....
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 16, 2009, 11:12:08 AM
Looks like western Kentucky is about to get it right in the Paducah.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on June 17, 2009, 09:11:43 AM
It's been threatening to rain here for two days.  I need to know if I should water the flowers...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on June 17, 2009, 09:25:27 AM
The threat here is over; the rain has arrived.  A lot.  The timing is . . . not so good for me, especially since it's supposed to rain on and off for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on June 19, 2009, 01:07:03 PM
Psycho thunderstorms last night.  I swear, there's something abnormal about the Midwest.  Thunderstorms do not follow the meteorologically approved form.  Nebraska . . . was Nebraska, and so, well, OK.  But central Michigan should be more normal  We get way too many storms where the lightning and thunder are clearly not paired.  It's as if the lighting and sound guys are working from different scripts.

Last night's / early this morning's storm started off with no rain or lightning but weird-ass thunder.  A really sharp attack followed by an unreasonably long sustain.  I seriously thought it might be something else, despite the volume.  Like a slow train explosion, maybe.  :shrug:

When the storm actually arrived, there was plenty of thunder strong enough so I could see my alarm clock's display vibrating.  Forget the windows shaking; this was some serious concussive nonsense.  And lots of rapid flickering lightning.  Just wrong.

I'll take a bad August thunderstorm coming in off the Atlantic any day.  You can't possibly sleep through it, but it follows the proper form.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 20, 2009, 10:36:17 AM
Boomers should be arriving here in an hour...

Otherwise, I'm really not going to miss next week's follies a bit:

(http://www.centralmediaserver.com/ksnt/weather/7day.jpg)

Lovingly, happily back to this:

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1954/46dayv.jpg)  :happy:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on June 20, 2009, 01:52:16 PM
Ah, a perfect June day in the Pacific Northwest. Rain, sun, showers, sunbreak, drizzle.  :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 20, 2009, 02:45:39 PM
I'm tellin' ya... :love:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on June 23, 2009, 10:38:42 AM
Dear mild heat wave weather we're having:
Just go ahead and thunderstorm plz. Get it out of your system. I'm tired of the sticky humidity that I can feel even in the house with the a/c on and it's totally interfering with my enjoyment of the front porch.

less-than-three,
me
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on June 23, 2009, 10:46:11 AM
Yes, it's supposed to be over 90 F tomorrow.

Sunlight doesn't actually kill vampires, but it might just kill me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 25, 2009, 08:11:06 PM
The lightning is so frequent right now that even Michael Bay would say that it's way too much.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on June 25, 2009, 09:16:49 PM
We've had a few storms like that too this month.  That much lightning is unnerving.  All the flashes feel like you're in the middle of a paparazzi storm.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on June 26, 2009, 09:28:27 AM
Quote
The lightning is so frequent right now that even Michael Bay would say that it's way too much.

I think it would have to be arcing from the ground, traveling up his rectum, and coming out his ears before he'd say it was way too much.

On the other hand, I am enjoying imagining that that's what's happening.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on June 26, 2009, 09:30:48 AM
We were supposed to get thunderstorms yesterday. There was a storm warning, everything got gray out, I could hear the thunder, and we even lost power for half a minute. BUT NO RAIN. NO STORM. wtf. I am so grumpy! It is all bright and hot and humid again and I got no storms!! =(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on June 26, 2009, 10:14:06 AM
We were supposed to get thunderstorms yesterday. There was a storm warning, everything got gray out, I could hear the thunder, and we even lost power for half a minute. BUT NO RAIN. NO STORM. wtf. I am so grumpy! It is all bright and hot and humid again and I got no storms!! =(

Too bad for you suckers in the sticks. It poured like a motherfucker here in the nation's capital.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on June 29, 2009, 11:07:36 AM
Yesterday morning I got up near Fort Ross and I could see my breath. When we got to a gas stop in Morgan Hill it was 105F and I think my shoe soles melted a little bit on the tarmac. Got home and started the grill and had to put on a jacket.

I love my state, even when it drives me crazy.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on June 29, 2009, 12:17:13 PM
Still, good for you...

I spent a lot of last week out in the blue room myself, as a welcome-back present.

Did an unprecedented 55 mile ride (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whidbey/3665876107) out to one of my favorite spots I'd been jonesing for: Dungeness. Stayed a couple of days. The hiker/biker camp is only 5 bucks a day...!

The weather had the usual range, from sun to clouds to a headwind that was giving me a headache after trudging a few miles in it...

Had to get out of the wind, checked a very cool driftwood structure someone went through a lot of trouble to make...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2555/3666854990_93086d65d7.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3300/3666051879_876be1cd9d.jpg)

probably 40% of my gear was extra clothes: two fleece jackets, my rain jacket, three shirts, polypropolyne tops/bottoms, two pairs of socks, sweat pants, two pairs of shorts, gloves, hats, headbands...

I just didn't like, want to be unprepared'n'shit...

What a fun ride, though...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on June 29, 2009, 12:32:41 PM
I've been trying to find places to go that are out in nature, yet still have internet, and still yet are affordable. The Fourth of Buhzuh Weak End is fucking up those plans significantly. I'm settling for sitting on the deck listening to the roar of 64 behind me.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on August 04, 2009, 02:47:18 PM
Tornado warnings today.... we get them very rarely. And the temp is supposed to go up over 40 celsius this coming weekend...... :shock:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Talix on August 04, 2009, 02:49:36 PM
Stoat is tumbling pictures of the p1gv4cu4t10n vehicles just in case...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 08, 2009, 09:14:23 AM
BOOM BOOM BOOM.

Also with the pouring rain pouring down.  And the wind, how she blows.

The city's outdoor book festival is even less of a success today than their outdoor folk music festival.  Especially since the tents leak, and the fabric sides for the tents were never installed (they're still lying on the ground in stacks).

The Barnes & Noble people were especially bent out of shape.  I was, like, you brought a water-resistant sign or banner of some kind?  The tent is 1.5 blocks from your store.  Just put up the damned sign and go back to the shop.  If anyone actually shows up looking for kids' books, they can find you.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 08, 2009, 12:16:28 PM
Looks like a heat wave is coming. Today is gray and a bit on the cool side but tomorrow and Monday are supposed to be "steamy and stormy" with "feels like" temps going up to the high 30s/40 C. The rest of the week apparently will continue with humidity making it feel up in the 30s.

Ugh! What is with this summer? The weather's been crap, we've had hardly any nice summer days (say, 22-24 C and sunny without being stanky humid)... and now nasty heat waves.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on August 09, 2009, 10:40:40 AM
Heat index is s'poda be 100 today. It's supposed to top out at 90 - so that means the difference will be made up by humidity. BOGUS. Kentucky summer found Kentucky again. Ick. The trees across the street are all hazy even.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 09, 2009, 11:00:53 AM
I happened to look up from the couch last night at sunset and the whole eastern sky was red. And then a bunch of sirens started up at the firestation down the street. Well, I shit myself metaphorically.

It's in the wilderness about 75 miles away. I think we're safe. But, still, DO NOT WANT.

Fog rolled in on schedule this morning.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 09, 2009, 11:05:14 AM
Quote
Kentucky summer found Kentucky again.

Yah, here, too.  We'd only had (too late to knock on wood) about 5 days of temps at 85 or over all summer so far, and almost every night had gotten down to at least 65, and usually down into the 50s.  Today's gonna be mid-90s and uncomfortably humid.  I'm at work (in the A/C) most of the day, but even so.  The house will be fairly gross when I get home, and it's supposed to be in the upper 80s most of the week.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on August 09, 2009, 12:23:28 PM
The dog days of summer finally found KC too.  Yesterday was the hottest day of the year so far - it got up to 99.  I'm not sure what the heat index was.

:thumbsdn:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 09, 2009, 03:06:26 PM
Don't miss 'em a bit.

Even here when it got to a 103 last week. I had to GTFO and get near some cool water for a few days...frak that shit.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on August 09, 2009, 04:18:45 PM
Went out for a drive today and stopped at 4th St downtown.  Ehh.  It was interesting to go into Borders and see all the Vampire stuff around, True Blood, Twilight, etc.  Squarely aimed at teenagers.

Oh yes, it was hot, but not Atlanta hot.  Hot though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 09, 2009, 05:49:31 PM
Yup, it was gray and kinda chilly all morning (under and then around 65 F), then at about lunchtime the thunder boomed impressively, the sky poured down for a half hour or so, eventually the sun came out and the temp shot up. It's 30 C (86 F) now, still climbing and very muggy. WTF random weather. Ugh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 09, 2009, 08:05:31 PM
I got hot for ya right hyar (http://wildphotography.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/la-brea-fire-day-1/?linkSource=edhat.com).

This fire is like 60-70 miles away, so no worries, but we know it's there.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 09, 2009, 08:40:13 PM
Sheeit...it's great if you're a photographer...

There have been some fires up here, notably in eastern BC, not sure if they added to the redness of this pic or not last week:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3793409119_0069247af8.jpg)

The winds blow the other way down the Strait, and fires were east (right) of the location. Couldn't have been just cars, though.

This one definitely shows some kind of micro-action on the mainland, where the fires were.  Didn't actually get the sunset, but it was a deep red. I couldn't see the Cascades all week.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2625/3793472384_eff8a72d0a.jpg)

There was no other good reason for the thunderheads. Very little precipitation....
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 09, 2009, 10:20:59 PM
And though this is not weather-related, the sun is setting EARLIER and EARLIER now...

8:31 PM up here...  :(

Summer's too short...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on August 11, 2009, 02:01:26 PM
It rained yesterday. The first significant precipitation since May 19.  :trance:

Oddly enough, this is the first year EVER I have harvested a bright red, ripe tomato in August, and I have been gardening for close to 20 years now.

Usually tomatoes plants around here start to ripen in September, at least for the majority of people who don't start their plants indoors or in a greenhouse in early Spring, because it doesn't warm up enough for them to go outside until late May. Then we get one cold night and the next day the plant is brown and shriveling, collapsing from the weight of the very green fruit on it, which end up having to ripen in paper bags in my front window...

So this August tomato thing, is this what gardening is like everywhere else in the country?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 11, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
Yep. We're in tomatoes now. Of course it's foggy and 55 ...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on August 11, 2009, 02:15:33 PM
Yep tomatoes were way late this year due to all the Seattle weather this spring
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 11, 2009, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: TOA
It rained yesterday. The first significant precipitation since May 19 :trance:

About fracking time, too. It was nice to have some cool drizzle to walk around in for once.

Didn't even get half an inch, though...

Probably all the reason more to expedite my plans to move to the Island if our summers are going to be this palatable to the comfort hounds...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 17, 2009, 12:54:32 AM
And tonight was a fantastic sunset. But alack, I am miffed that I didn't stay on the beach to watch it. There was no way I could predict that this

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3395/img3677p.jpg)

would turn to this:

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9346/august16.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on August 18, 2009, 01:01:37 AM
Well, I was a little more on top of it tonight. The sunset wasn't quite as vibrant as last night, but it was fun enough.

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6181/img3759a.jpg)

Someone on the beach noticed me putting the camera on the timer and snapping 10 pictures at a time and he said "are you going to put those on the Internet?"
"Yes."

"And they PAY you to do that?"

I chuckled and said "not yet" and he said "because that would be the easiest job in the world, sitting back and letting the camera do all that."

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4006/img3992a.jpg)

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2268/img3873a.jpg)



Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: NexR on August 18, 2009, 01:09:51 AM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on August 18, 2009, 01:15:01 AM
 :detta: :detta: :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on August 22, 2009, 05:01:32 PM
We had to run to our cars at the end of the rugby matches today - funnel clouds were forming on two sides of us. Stoat - you can have your weather back we don't want it.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 22, 2009, 06:13:22 PM
It rained all morning :trance:

Very subtropical humid sort of thing. T-storm warnings, but I saw no lightning. The raindrops were warm and fat.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on August 22, 2009, 09:11:02 PM
Heh. Weather has been mellow this year.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mrcookieface on August 22, 2009, 09:51:28 PM
Heh. Weather has been mellow this year.

Same here.  The summer's been lovely.  The weatherman on the evening news last night was saying how it'd be in the 70s this weekend, and to be sure to enjoy it, "because next year it won't be like this."

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 23, 2009, 08:57:38 PM
It went from broiling humid for two weeks to the past two days of gray and chilly (for summer). There were even tornados north of here - we drove through a town today that got hit by a rogue tornado a couple days ago. It was pretty beat-up looking - all the houses had windows broken, part of a barn roof was sheared off, downed trees everywhere and the hydro was out.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on August 23, 2009, 09:04:06 PM
63 degrees and low humidity. Wicked awesome.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on August 24, 2009, 02:06:01 AM
and the hydro was out.

You have gone native, haven't you...  ;)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on August 30, 2009, 02:39:58 PM
65 F, sunny and gorgeous.  Get down to almost 40 F tonight.

70 F, sunny and gorgeous tomorrow.

75 F, sunny and gorgeous on Tuesday.

A bit warmer, sunny and gorgeous the rest of the week.


It was rainy and downright chilly last few days and rainy rainy rainy for several days before that.  This has not been a hot summer, which is great for me.  Only two nights so far this year that it was too warm in my house to sleep comfortably.  Last summer, there were probably 25 or those.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on August 31, 2009, 01:29:24 PM
Hot'n'smokey.

However this was amusing

Quote from: fire people in LA
The goals of the firefighters are to keep the fire west of Highway 39 and Angeles Crest Highway, east of Interstate 5, south of Highway 14, Pearblossom Highway, and Highway 138, and north of the foothill communities and the Angeles National Forest Boundary. Steep terrain, decadent old growth brush and hot dry weather are factors that drive fire activity. Firefighters are working to build fireline and protect structures within areas affected by the fire.

It's the decadence that will be the downfall of us all ...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on August 31, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
Maybe they were trying for "decades old" and the outsourcing company isn't really English proficient.

I think I'll go outside for some non-fresh air.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: hajen on August 31, 2009, 11:43:33 PM
Chilly here (for summer, anyways). Enough almost to turn on the heat, which is FUCKED UP, Y'ALL.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on September 01, 2009, 11:49:24 AM
It was sprinkling on us after the doctor's appointment. We thought it was ash, but it was actually water.

We're mixing August (fire), September (hot), and November (wet) in one day. I'm afraid to find what happens next.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 01, 2009, 12:21:16 PM
It's hurricane Jimena. That sticky windbag is riding Aunt (monsoonal) Flow up to the southland. I can see cloud bands from here.

The fire incident commander said it wouldn't help as it's so hot up there any rain would evaporate before it hit the ground.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 01, 2009, 01:01:21 PM
Have a look

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/towercam.htm

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 04, 2009, 12:24:08 PM
This is a fantastic photoset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/anosmicovni/sets/72157622043005955/show/with/3864982760/). The time-lapses are amazing.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 04, 2009, 12:43:38 PM
Fantastic. I can't imagine living that close to that kind of elemental destruction...

Of course, all I could think while watching the show was "what kind of camera is he using?" (It doesn't say on the pages).

And hundreds of views! I'd kill for that kind of perusal...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on September 04, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
11,544 and growing.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 04, 2009, 12:58:19 PM
Fantastic. I can't imagine living that close to that kind of elemental destruction...

Someday Rainier's gonna go. That'll trump all this.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on September 04, 2009, 05:17:56 PM
You betcha.

I don't think I could ever live down there, I have enough breathing trouble up here.

Hopefully that poor hummingbird headed for the ocean...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 04, 2009, 05:24:35 PM
Fantastic. I can't imagine living that close to that kind of elemental destruction...

Someday Rainier's gonna go. That'll trump all this.

Hahaha I keep forgetting our natural disasters would indeed trump yours.

Sorry, not moving to the Colorado safehouse any time soon.

It's interesting to note that all three of our big volcanoes were erupting notably just 150 years ago or so...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 05, 2009, 07:29:44 PM
Gawd, it's nice tonight. Blissfully cool. Today I live in heaven.

Meanwhile, just down the road ... (http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2009/09/01/los_angeles_fire/)

What she doesn't say very well is what it feels like to breathe that stuff. It honestly feels like you've been gargling tiny glass shards. Kind of like OMG is my trachea bleeding? kind of thing.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 20, 2009, 07:06:23 AM
Been getting a little rain.

* RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 1 TO 4 PLUS INCHES HAVE FALLEN OVER THE LAST
  24 HOURS. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO AMOUNTS AS HIGH AS 6 TO 12
  INCHES OVER PARTS OF NORTH AND CENTRAL GEORGIA OVER THE PAST 2
  TO 3 DAYS. THIS HAS SATURATED THE SOIL IN MANY LOCATIONS.
  ADDITIONAL HEAVY SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS COULD PRODUCE LOCAL
  RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES.

DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY
A GOOD CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS EXISTS EACH DAY...WITH
HEAVY RAIN REMAINING POSSIBLE AT LEAST THROUGH MONDAY.

Wasn't it last week I was talking about going out an taking some pictures with the polarizing filter if the day was sunny? It hasn't been sunny since then. Yesterday during a rain break, I saw about 10 Robins in my backyard. I don't remember ever seeing that many at one time before. There was also a Woodpecker, pecking at the ground. Never seen that before either.

I'm not complaining though. I kinda like it - great for napping. Last year's drought taught me to really appreciate the rain.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 20, 2009, 12:22:43 PM
We're supposed to get a Santa Ana this week. Can't wait. :eyeroll:

(Babylon sisters, shake it)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 20, 2009, 01:39:06 PM
Permanent Earwr0m Country...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 20, 2009, 01:41:27 PM
So fine so young · Tell me I'm the only one
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: vox8 on September 21, 2009, 11:54:59 AM
blub blub blub
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on September 21, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
It flooded down here again yesterday.  Smells nasty.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 21, 2009, 06:19:17 PM
Yeah. Gettin' a little rain. I think the toll is 6 dead so far. I wasn't too concerned for myself because I live on high ground, but this afternoon I heard the road that I use to get home was closed due to flooding. So then I went online to see what other roads were closed, and found that 100 roads were closed in the county I live in (now it's up to 130).

I live 10 miles from work, and it took me about 2 hours to get home. I finally came upon the intersection where I turn that's about a half mile from my house. The road straight ahead was flooded out, but that was ok with me, because I wanted to turn right. I had waited two hours to get to this point. I needed to pee, I was totally parched, and my ass was sore. There was a cop and a utility department guy at the intersection. They would not let me turn right. I rolled down my window and yelled at UDG that "I LIVE RIGHT THERE!" He said, "He's telling you to turn around", pointing at the cop. I turn and look at the cop and he's yelling like he's about to draw his pistol and shoot me, so I turn around and head to the only other way to get to my house.

I travel about a quarter mile in 30 minutes, only to find that the other road is like 3 feet deep in water, and people are waiting in line for the opportunity to get in it. But there's nobody stopping them from going through it. People were desperate to get home. I said the hell with that and turned around, not knowing where I was going to go, but knowing I was not driving through the creek. I finally decided I was going to get as close to home as possible, park the car, and hoof it.

I approached the blocked intersection from another angle, only to find that now they were letting people go down the road to my house that they wouldn't let me go down before. It was still a total clusterfuck, so I parked my car near the intersection in a place that was pretty safe and got out and started walking. I walked through the intersection and bumped into UDG and asked him why they wouldn't let me through before. He said the road was flooded further on down, and they were trying to save people the grief of having to turn around and come right back out. He said people were getting so pissed off that they decided to just let them go ahead and do it after a while.

I walked down the street, looking at the faces of the people in their cars, and it was really sad. Some people were crying, many were on their cellphones trying to find some way out, some stopped me and asked me what I knew about any escape routes. I saw a man and a woman who were probably in their late 70's that looked really hopeless.

I got about halfway home and stopped in my tracks, trying to remember if I turned off my headlights. I bailed out of the car so quick that I couldn't remember. I was almost certain I had left them on. By that point in time though, the battery would've already been dead, so I said fuck it and kept walking home. My original plan was to wait a couple of hours and go back up there and get the car, but this dead battery thing added a new wrinkle. Plus, I figured it was going to start raining again, and started thinking that if I went back up there soon enough, there'd still be people around to give me a jump.

So I walked back up there. I almost danced a jig when I saw I had turned off my headlights. Traffic was still a snarly mess, but now I was re-energized and was ready for it. As I was waiting in traffic, I was again looking at the faces of the people in the cars that had tried to escape down the flooded-out road, and they were mostly the same kind of faces, but I came upon one girl who had this big grin on her face and looked me straight in the eye, and said, "Hi! How you doin!". I said, Hey! "How you doin!" back at her. She must have been a Katrina refugee. Anyway, it was a sweet moment, and all the cars after her must have wondered what the hell was wrong with me, driving down the road with a big smile on my face.

Oh. That was quite a few words. I feel better though.

http://www.ajc.com/news/minute-by-minute-updates-143387.html
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 21, 2009, 06:23:55 PM
Wow. Damn. All I could think about reading that is "... man, we could use some of that rain" :galm: Ah well.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 21, 2009, 08:41:40 PM
Stay safe Mo.
Boy Monkey and I are really, really anal about scouting places to live. So far we're 3 for 3 in being safe from water issues.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on September 22, 2009, 02:11:27 PM
Quote
I rolled down my window and yelled at UDG that "I LIVE RIGHT THERE!" He said, "He's telling you to turn around", pointing at the cop.

FWIW, what sometimes works in these cases is 'My car sucks and it's having trouble again -- I'm afraid if I turn around it'll break down in the middle of the road before I get home.'

Alternatively, tell them the gas gauge stopped working like a week ago and that you're pretty sure you might be almost out of gas.  Same idea.  They don't want you broken down in the middle of their evacuation route if they can possibly help it. 

On the other hand, they may direct you to a nearby parking lot and force you to wait for a tow truck.  Probably not, but I make no promises.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 22, 2009, 02:19:58 PM
Hahahaha, well, I can't claim to be an expert but I have spent a lot of time talking to cops at evacuation roadblocks lately and ... no. They aren't interested in listening to reasons. You will turn around, in this situation. Or you get to meet all his friends and spend the evening with them.

That said, the whole getting-out-and-walking around them plan has worked fine. They don't really seem to notice people not in cars (TYPICAL). Fire before last -- wait, no, actually, the one before that -- some friends of ours hiked around a roadblock and up a hill to get their aged grandmother out of their house, which was in the evacuation area. Fortunately they had another car there. Cops wouldn't let them drive in to get her. Didn't care about the aged grandmother -- actually wouldn't listen to the tale. I think they assume people will lie to get into evacuation areas if they allow exceptions. This is probably true.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 22, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Speaking of that ... the Station fire is still not out (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fire-danger22-2009sep22,0,3676951.story) and the Mt. Wilson Observatory is still -- incredibly -- not out of danger. "Fires aren't usually out until you get some winter rain on them."
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on September 22, 2009, 05:07:40 PM
And with the Santa Ana (or Los Vientos de la Santana) we're all going to have such lovely sunsets for our eyes, and fine dust in our lungs.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on September 22, 2009, 11:07:23 PM
You know, maybe my SIL should consider moving. After the house burnt two years ago, and now they're about a mile away from the evacuation zone. http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_details_info?incident_id=392

Spontaneous Manure Combustion is what the news is reporting, although it's not confirmed.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 22, 2009, 11:55:42 PM
Shitfire?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on September 23, 2009, 12:26:14 PM
I believe the local term is cacafuego.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on September 23, 2009, 01:17:16 PM
Jack Aubrey took that one as a prize when he captained the Sophie.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on September 23, 2009, 02:52:51 PM
Aw crap the smoke is drifting up here.

*frowns in the general direction of Ventura County manure piles*

... small ... green ... globule on the drum seat
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 23, 2009, 04:34:53 PM
So I guess this is a bad time to brag about our stellar hot day outside, eh?

I missed taking a shot of the really incredible orange-ball sunset last night.

Hope it's an encore...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 24, 2009, 05:22:22 PM
Well, last night's sunset wasn't nearly the freakshow of the night before, but I got a few pics.

And, not to turn the weather thread into a photo-critique thread, but I thought I'd solicit some advice from the 4 photographic horsemen here

mo, Trip, Pnuk and Pizza:

What would you suggest the overall technique needs?

I've noticed a substantial improvement over pics I've taken with a point-and-shoot, but seems like most of them come off as underwhelming.

Is it the fact I don't have a tripod and the pictures are slightly out of focus? Or is it the kit lens?

Naturally, I want to get a better one w/more zoom power, but is it really that bad of a lens? Could it be the sensor mirror needs cleaning? Or is the ISO setting I've got dialed up? Or what?

Here's last night's:

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_LdkirN2A0NA/SrsbisaIQfI/AAAAAAAAEQI/c34TFzPw_L8/s720/IMG_5819.JPG)

And the night before:

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_LdkirN2A0NA/SrsbVkDh1tI/AAAAAAAAEPQ/CrYGZ9VCbZQ/s512/IMG_5697.JPG)

Note: the lighting is natural, as it was slightly misty.

I just know I could do better, and I'm nowhere near professional quality with either.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on September 24, 2009, 06:25:35 PM
The last one looks like a shot of Mordor
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on September 24, 2009, 08:04:40 PM
The Camera, The Negative, and The Print by Ansel Adams if you're going to shoot landscapes.  I need to reread them again, but everything I ever learned was by using him as an example.  I actually figured out the Zone on my own.  It's all about the composition of the photograph, the technical hoohah is second; if it ain't there, it ain't there.

After Ansel, I would study Helmut Newton.  The man practically invented fashion photography and that's not a backward complement, anytime a fashion photo catches your eye, he's indirectly the inspiration behind it.  Annie Lebowitz, Robert Maplethorpe, Nigel Barker; they all owe him.

Finally, Arthur 'Weegee' Fellig.  He was a news photographer, who got his nickname from the Ouija board because he would show up within minutes of something happening.  He took pictures of What Was, not what people wanted it to be.  His book Naked City is still hard to look at even now, but Weegee's gift was capturing the moment in that split second in which it happened.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 25, 2009, 01:53:38 AM
Well I suppose it wouldn't hurt to revisit influences, but I've spent much of my life admiring the photographers you suggest.

I don't believe I have an issue with composition. I was hoping with advice with the technical end. I can picture what I want the picture to look like pretty easily. I can't help but wonder if I'm lacking some simple common sense regarding some of the finer mechanisms of the camera beyond the basic settings.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 25, 2009, 08:06:39 AM
You really should've started another thread if you really want to get to the bottom of this issue. It's not going to be anything as simple as one of us telling you, "oh, you need to turn your gamma detector on"  :P Hmof would probably split this thread if you asked. Even though you've insulted him by not listing him as a photographer   ;) And Stormneedle, and Stoatse, etc. Even the casual photographer sometimes has something helpful to add. Part of the art of making great photographs is making something that everybody will like. Very few people achieve that. I'd love to help in anyway I can. I learn things myself as we talk about this stuff - it's just as helpful to me as it is to you.

I took your first 4 pics from flickr:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/cloud-grid.jpg)
You've got the makings of a good picture here. The two main things that bother me about it:
1- crooked - my pet peeve. 2- barrel distortion. I don't know if you could've backed up some
and zoomed in a bit, but the distortion is pretty bad. A vertical composition might have
worked better. I dunno. Doubtful. Also, the exposure is just a tad on the dark side.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/cloud-distort.jpg)
Here I've tweaked it in PS. Looking back at it now, I over-compensated with the straightening.
It should actually tilt back a little counter-clockwise. I've distorted to remove the barrel distortion,
and you can see that makes a major improvement.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/cloud-ref.jpg)
I love this one. It's technically crooked, but visually straight. The only thing that bugs me
on this one is whatever that is floating out there, but it actually adds a little interest.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/sil.jpg)
On this one I would have used manual focus, and focused on the trees in the foreground
and let the background blur. The only thing of interest in the background is color,
which is awesome.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/sunset1.jpg)
Things that bug me here: 1- composition 2- again with the straightness 3- the reflection
of the sun on the waves is not as clear as I would expect it to be at 1/250.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/mo_d_/sunset2.jpg)
Straightened and cropped. Notice the 3 elements of the picture - the rocks, the sails and
the sun align across the picture and the reflection of the sun creates a path to complete
the circle. The area at the top of the uncropped picture is very distracting. I probably would've
tilted the camera down a bit to get more of the beach in the picture.

None of this is what you were looking for, I know, but without some specific pictures showing the problem, with EXIF data, it's hard to help. Judging from the speed of the shots above, a tripod is not the problem. I'd recommend taking a series of shots of the same exact thing (it doesn't need to be an interesting or artistic subject - just go out in the yard) using a variety of different settings. Post those to flickr and link them back here. In the process of doing that, you might find the problem yourself. If not, it will give us something to go on.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 25, 2009, 10:41:41 AM
Oh I know...this should have been its own thread...

I've just been frustrated lately about a lot of other things, and with my pictures, mainly the grainy quality and the fact that many don't look that focused when zoomed in...figured it was a combo with the lens/lack of tripod and I might still be right about that...

Let's just make a new thread about photography and stick to it.

That said, I'm pretty happy about the examples you were critiquing. I deliberately decided not to straighten the first one, I like it that way... :shrug: :P
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 25, 2009, 10:45:52 AM
Hey, it's art, not science... well, there is a little science, and even some math, but if you like it crooked, that's cool  :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on September 25, 2009, 10:57:32 AM
I should add - I've been shooting a lot lately, and that makes me kind of opinionated and voice my criticisms. Also, kind of bored this morning. Too much coffee. Sorry for the unsolicited criticism.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on September 25, 2009, 11:00:48 AM
Good! Check out the new thread and let it loose... :detta:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 01, 2009, 06:06:02 PM
If I had to use a word to describe the weather it would be "bipolar."

Low of 48 last night ("perfect snuggle weather," my wife says).
High of 88 today with humidity in the single digits.

:nuts:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on October 01, 2009, 06:41:03 PM
We hit 105 last week and this week we've had overnight lows in the 30s.  Pretty craythuh
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 01, 2009, 06:59:46 PM
It hasn't gotten much over 70 here of late, and usually cooler, but it went down below freezing last night.  Chilleh.

I hate having to turn the heat on.  :cry:  $$$
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: vox8 on October 01, 2009, 07:42:20 PM
If I had to use a word to describe the weather it would be "bipolar."

Low of 48 last night ("perfect snuggle weather," my wife says).
High of 88 today with humidity in the single digits.

:nuts:


But does it play the Cure over and over and over again?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: feffer on October 01, 2009, 08:21:37 PM
Wow.  It's been fall in Seattle here, no mistaking it.  I just hope it dries up a bit this weekend for Salmon Days and a birthday party for Lilia's friend.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on October 27, 2009, 08:21:09 PM
Quote
Windy, with a north wind between 37 and 46 mph, with gusts as high as 65 mph.
Really, I just wanted a teensy bit of rain. Not to change lanes on the freeway.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on October 27, 2009, 09:10:23 PM
Quote
Windy, with a north wind between 37 and 46 mph, with gusts as high as 65 mph.
Really, I just wanted a teensy bit of rain. Not to change lanes on the freeway.


Yeah. RHumidity's down to 10% too. Shiiiiiiiiiiit. The Tea fire was last year around this time. Fire like that with this wind and holy FUCK it would be bad.

On the up side Carla-from-the-comic-book-store is back at work. :love: She wears these separate full length sleeves like Allen Iverson. :(
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on October 30, 2009, 08:10:13 PM
Effing front moving through.  According to the NWS, it's currently 69 F out there, which is peculiarly warm.  (It'll get below freezing tomorrow night, which is less unexpected.)  It's been raining and raining and raining, mostly drizzle but sometimes heavily.  The wind picked up during the day today, and currently it's at 40 MPH, with gusts.

The gusts are sufficient to shake my house.  A recent one was so strong that a short stack of DVDs fell off my TV.  My windows aren't open or anything, either.  And tree branches are landing on my roof periodically, which is exciting because there aren't any trees that overhang my roof.  They must be traveling ten or fifteen feet before they hit the house.

In Florida, this would be normal.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on October 30, 2009, 08:15:55 PM
We're getting some very blustery weather, apparently it was freaking this morning. Calmer today, just started to drizzle about an hour ago. Tonight is some big to-do of a gusty storm, apparently.

But tomorrow is definitely "weather or not" as I'm headed out on the bike to the Beloved Island to check out the tall trees and the wild surf. Should be dramatic. Supposed to be around 60. A veritable heatwave.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on October 31, 2009, 09:53:22 AM
We never got the torrential rains, or the 100% boomers, but it did get hella windy briefly early this morning. Upper 70's and sunny yesterday and now 60 and rainy today. Bleh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on November 01, 2009, 11:41:45 AM
Mom's dock.

http://the-tripper.tumblr.com/post/229837191/this-is-my-moms-dock-at-her-home-off-lake (http://the-tripper.tumblr.com/post/229837191/this-is-my-moms-dock-at-her-home-off-lake)

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Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 01, 2009, 11:49:32 AM
Sunny and 68 all week.  8)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 02, 2009, 10:45:36 AM
Sunny and 68 all week.  8)

... at noon. :nonplused:

It's forty-something at 7:30. My toes are numb!
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on November 02, 2009, 01:36:32 PM
We've been in the high 70s.  Sunny and beautiful
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 03, 2009, 06:51:08 PM
Saturday turned out to be one of the kind of days I always sashay into...

It was rainy in the morning, but I spent most of my time behind a moving window...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2707/4070719411_94bedd0232.jpg)

The afternoon shaped up nicely. A little windy. Very HalloSamhainish...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2596/4071506080_866de8c21b.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on November 04, 2009, 06:06:11 AM
Pretty  :thumbsup:

Most of your pictures have been along the shore. It's interesting to see one from a higher vantage point. Have you ever been out on one of those little islands?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on November 04, 2009, 02:02:52 PM
The National Weather Service says a storm will blow into Western Washington on Thursday with gusty winds and rains that will fill rivers in Mason and Whatcom counties.

High winds are forecast for the coast, northwest interior and Cascades.

A flood watch is in effect from Thursday afternoon through Friday afternoon for the Skokomish and Nooksack rivers.

Forecasters say unsettled weather will continue into next week
as a series of disturbances move through Western Washington.

Weathermen?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on November 04, 2009, 03:15:34 PM
NOOKSACK!

 :knotty: :knotty: :knotty: :knotty:

That's nothing. We've got a series of disturbances right here in the living room. Three of them.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: pdrake on November 04, 2009, 03:34:48 PM
NOOKSACK!



heh, i read that as "oosik".

we're in the mid 80s this week. unseasonably high.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 08, 2009, 02:17:22 PM
70 F, mostly sunny, mild breeze.  Feels almost ten degrees warmer if you're standing in the sunlight.

Weirdly . . . there's almost no one outside.  Sidewalks are deserted.  I thought we'd do good business today, but apparently everyone is either raking leaves or on a trip to Knott's Berry Farm or some shit.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 08, 2009, 03:05:56 PM
Knott's Berry Farm? Whoa. Is there really no fun any closer? :galm:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 09, 2009, 10:51:22 AM
:lol:

"Knott's Berry Farm" (and variations of that) is just my generic for a dumb place to go for a field trip.  When I was a kid, there was a see-how-we-make-jam farm a few towns over that had a similar-sounding name, and it was a common field trip destination.  I managed to avoid ever going, but a friend of mine had heard of Knott's Berry Farm and, upon hearing that our class was going to somewhere with a similar name, he made the natural 10-year-old mistake and got the entire class WAY too excited . . . .

Anyway, I don't know where everyone in town was yesterday.  The foot traffic finally picked up around 4 PM.  Maybe they all felt it was too nice a day to get the hell out of bed any earlier.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 12, 2009, 11:19:18 PM
And I don't know why this always cracks me up, but it's time again for the Seattle Forecast, courtesy of NOAA:

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7499/seattleforecast.jpg)

Today and yesterday were just spot on Fall beautiful. Jacket weather, of course...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on November 13, 2009, 03:26:19 AM
Snohomish County H1N1 Flu Information website just informed me:

A Vigorous Cold Front will Pass Southeast Across Western
washington Friday Morning, Bringing Rain, Mountain Snows, Locally
Windy Conditions and Possibly Snow Showers to Parts of The
Lowlands.
South winds in Advance of the Front will Increase Late tonight
Into Early Friday Morning, Mainly Along the Coast and Parts Of
The Northwest Interior Including the Admiralty Inlet Region. Wind
Speeds in Those Areas are Expected to Reach 20 to 30 MPH with A
Few Gusts to 45 MPH, Mainly in and around the Island county Area.
After the Front Passes, winds will Become West to Southwest Down
The Strait of Juan De Fuca and Across the Northwest Interior
Before Diminishing Through the Afternoon. While Below Wind
Advisory Criteria, Wind of this Strength Could Blow Down a Few
Tree Limbs Here and There with Isolated Power Outages.
Colder Air will Surge in Behind the Front and Lower Already Low
Snow Levels Across the Region. During the Morning Hours Ahead Of
The Front the Snow Level will be around 1500 to 2000 Feet. The
Snow Level will then Gradually Drop Through the Day to around 500
Feet by Evening. this Means Some of the Highest Hills around The
Region Could See a Few Snow Showers Late Friday Into Friday
Evening. However, Outside of the Mountains or the Immediate
Cascade Foothills, Little to No Snow Accumulation is Expected.
Dry and Tranquil Weather will Return to the Region Late Friday
Night Into Saturday.


"Strait of Juan De Fuca" always makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on November 13, 2009, 11:09:35 AM
My all-time favorite was back in 2004 when it was reported that a "whole holler of trees had been blown down."

Epic.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on November 13, 2009, 12:19:18 PM
Snohomish County H1N1 Flu Information website just informed me:

A Vigorous Cold Front will Pass Southeast Across Western
washington Friday Morning, Bringing Rain, Mountain Snows, Locally
Windy Conditions and Possibly Snow Showers to Parts of The
Lowlands.
South winds in Advance of the Front will Increase Late tonight
Into Early Friday Morning, Mainly Along the Coast and Parts Of
The Northwest Interior Including the Admiralty Inlet Region. Wind
Speeds in Those Areas are Expected to Reach 20 to 30 MPH with A
Few Gusts to 45 MPH, Mainly in and around the Island county Area.
After the Front Passes, winds will Become West to Southwest Down
The Strait of Juan De Fuca and Across the Northwest Interior
Before Diminishing Through the Afternoon. While Below Wind
Advisory Criteria, Wind of this Strength Could Blow Down a Few
Tree Limbs Here and There with Isolated Power Outages.
Colder Air will Surge in Behind the Front and Lower Already Low
Snow Levels Across the Region. During the Morning Hours Ahead Of
The Front the Snow Level will be around 1500 to 2000 Feet. The
Snow Level will then Gradually Drop Through the Day to around 500
Feet by Evening. this Means Some of the Highest Hills around The
Region Could See a Few Snow Showers Late Friday Into Friday
Evening. However, Outside of the Mountains or the Immediate
Cascade Foothills, Little to No Snow Accumulation is Expected.
Dry and Tranquil Weather will Return to the Region Late Friday
Night Into Saturday.


"Strait of Juan De Fuca" always makes me laugh.

What's with the capitalization? That's harder to read than all caps.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 13, 2009, 12:46:59 PM
It's been in the 50s and 60s and mostly sunny most of the week, and this town has been DESERTED.  :shrug:  Sucks for business.  There's no one on the sidewalks.  The restaurants are mostly empty, too, and I was on campus yesterday and there was almost no one there, either.

Is the second week of November a holiday I didn't hear about?  Usually this last gasp of pre-winter nice weather has the polloi out in droves.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on November 13, 2009, 01:55:16 PM
Snohomish County H1N1 Flu Information website just informed me:

A Vigorous Cold Front will Pass Southeast Across Western
washington Friday Morning, Bringing Rain, Mountain Snows, Locally
Windy Conditions and Possibly Snow Showers to Parts of The
Lowlands.
South winds in Advance of the Front will Increase Late tonight
Into Early Friday Morning, Mainly Along the Coast and Parts Of
The Northwest Interior Including the Admiralty Inlet Region. Wind
Speeds in Those Areas are Expected to Reach 20 to 30 MPH with A
Few Gusts to 45 MPH, Mainly in and around the Island county Area.
After the Front Passes, winds will Become West to Southwest Down
The Strait of Juan De Fuca and Across the Northwest Interior
Before Diminishing Through the Afternoon. While Below Wind
Advisory Criteria, Wind of this Strength Could Blow Down a Few
Tree Limbs Here and There with Isolated Power Outages.
Colder Air will Surge in Behind the Front and Lower Already Low
Snow Levels Across the Region. During the Morning Hours Ahead Of
The Front the Snow Level will be around 1500 to 2000 Feet. The
Snow Level will then Gradually Drop Through the Day to around 500
Feet by Evening. this Means Some of the Highest Hills around The
Region Could See a Few Snow Showers Late Friday Into Friday
Evening. However, Outside of the Mountains or the Immediate
Cascade Foothills, Little to No Snow Accumulation is Expected.
Dry and Tranquil Weather will Return to the Region Late Friday
Night Into Saturday.


"Strait of Juan De Fuca" always makes me laugh.

What's with the capitalization? That's harder to read than all caps.

Smells like some kind of text filter fail ... original NWS text is always in all caps, 7-bit ASCII *chortle*
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: whidB on November 13, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
They've been hiring scribes from the Jonathan Swift era to save money...
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on November 29, 2009, 01:10:13 PM
38 F, gloomy and raining, and they're predicting a thunderstorm.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on November 30, 2009, 05:39:40 PM
70 degrees here.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 05, 2009, 10:30:29 AM
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Tonight...Clear. Lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds up to 10 mph.

Fuuuuuu...

I didn't know it was going to get that cold tonight.

Normally I put my plants down in my unfinished basement, but this year I thought I'd put them in the spare bedroom. I thought it would be kinda cool to have a "green" room - help reduce the wintertime blues. Well, the weather has been so nice lately, I've procrastinated on cleaning out the bedroom and bringing in the plants. Last night I got the plants into the carport, cleaned them up a little, and sprayed them down to kill bugs, but then I realized I don't have drip pans for most of the pots, so I need to go buy some today, I need to make space in the bedroom, and I need to figure out how I'm going to rig up plant lights in there. In the basement, I just screwed fluorescents to the floor joists (basement ceiling), but I can't do that in the bedroom.

It would have been a lot easier to just put them in the basement again. I'm probably going to regret this.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 05, 2009, 10:53:26 AM
It snowed here last night. It's not even covering the roads or anything but, damn that was fast.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 05, 2009, 01:23:16 PM
It might have snowed here. It was in the forecast, but I think I may have slept through it. It wasn't cold enough to stick though.

Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 05, 2009, 02:09:19 PM
We had snow the other morning.  We're currently having the kind of winter weather that's nothing when the sun's shining but shockingly cold when the clouds come out and/or the wind picks up.

Supposed to get down well below 20 F tonight, though.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 05, 2009, 03:40:45 PM
Plz MidSoEas folks send us your precip kthxdry
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 05, 2009, 04:33:44 PM
Plz MidSoEas folks send us your precip kthxdry
The delivery is scheduled to start tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on December 06, 2009, 10:23:46 PM
It was 18 this morning, never got much above 30 all day and is now 28.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 07, 2009, 12:44:59 PM
They had snow in Danville and Orinda.  WTF?
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: the other andrea on December 08, 2009, 02:14:39 PM
It was 10 degrees here last night.  :trance:
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 08, 2009, 02:16:08 PM
Bike path bridge frosted over, ice on the vernal pools by the beach. That was one little arctic blast.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: stormneedle on December 08, 2009, 03:00:02 PM
"Engergizing oil-filled heaters, captain! 'Ware the circuit breakers!"
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 08, 2009, 05:22:37 PM
Yep, good thing I bought that ice scraper back in OKC in '91.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 08, 2009, 09:24:12 PM
15 degrees.

F

Weather shitshow forecast for tomorrow. In KY it'll be 60 MPH winds - but a person who lives directly across the street can keep an eye on the jerk squad for us. Here it will be ice and snow. Gooooood times.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 08, 2009, 09:58:16 PM
Uff da.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Tripper on December 09, 2009, 10:07:57 AM
It's 52 now, but they're saying it's going down to 19 tonight with that same wind Stoatse is talking about.  I can see the clouds *really* moving outside right now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 10, 2009, 09:52:26 AM
OK it's weird to be sure when there are flight delays at San Jose airport due to icing.

It's even weirder when it transpires that Delta has de-icing equipment there (huh?!)

It's like in 1975 when the city sold its snowplow. I was like, San Jose has a snowplow?!

(note. 2 inches of snow in 1976 shut down the whole city for half a day -- mostly because everyone was out making snowmen -- but it didn't ice planes).
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2009, 12:35:45 PM
I'm hoping FG's plane wasn't delayed too much yesterday (although I bet she would've called me if it had been) -- it was supposed to leave around 5 PM, and by 8 PM Detroit was freezing rain and 60 MPH winds.  But apparently all went well enough.

It's currently 12 F here (-7 F with the wind) and overcast.  We're supposed to get about 2" of snow and another inch overnight.  Amusingly, this week YT is selling his car and planning to start riding a bike to work, on account of his smoking-induced diminished lung capacity.  You picked a good week to start riding a bike, man.


edit:  On the other hand, his car has no working heater or defroster, and the driver's side window tends to roll itself down and get stuck inside the door.  So his car's not that much better.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 10, 2009, 12:59:46 PM
Tuesday when I came to work I couldn't type for half an hour because my hands froze up. And it was like 38 or something. I think for 12 I'd need electrically heated gloves and boots.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2009, 01:12:02 PM
They make those, in fact.  But it sounds like you just need a warmer office or something.

I saw a USB-powered heated keyboard wrist rest at CompUSA when they were going out of business, and I was tempted, but I didn't get it. 
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Dr. Leonard HmofCoy on December 10, 2009, 01:13:19 PM
Heh, that's cute. No my hands turned to blocks of ice while biking in to work without gloves. I rested them on the radiator for a while.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: flipper on December 10, 2009, 04:37:17 PM
Yep, I was on a flight at SJC once and we were delayed for an hour while the warmed up the de-icing truck.  So I knew they had one already.  It's been crazy here since you moved away Zorg.  We get down to the high 20s several times a winter now.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: mo on December 10, 2009, 05:02:54 PM
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freezing rain and 60 MPH winds

*shudder*

Horizontal icicles.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2009, 06:30:55 PM
Personally, I'm nervous flying out of Detroit when it's 65 F, zero wind, and sunny.  And if the plane is delayed on the tarmac for fifteen minutes, it's probably covered in graffiti by the time it gets off the ground.

I think the longest I was ever stuck on the runway was about four hours, but that was long enough.  At least they were (perhaps illegally) letting passengers get up to use the restroom.  A friend of mine, on a flight to the subcontinent, was stuck on the plane somewhere in Europe . . . France, I think . . . for something like twelve hours, and they were at the terminal but not allowed to enter the airport.  They just had to sit in the plane.

Me, I prefer to drive.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Encino Man on December 10, 2009, 08:10:44 PM
effing -20 celsius here today. that's -4 F in your british system
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: Hedaira on December 10, 2009, 10:01:45 PM
What was supposed to be ~ inch of snow magically turned into 4" of snow. I have pics of downtown Mont P that I posted on Farcebook. Ye gods. Also, my mom's Rav4 has an alarm in it when you start to fish-tail that goes BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP! I almost yelled "REAVERS CAP'N!"
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 10, 2009, 11:21:05 PM
WTF?  Why would they have an alarm go off at the moment that you need to make a sudden important adjustment?  Oy.

You were better off with the Quantum Synchro.  I always wanted one of those, although my Legacy is kinda similarish in a heavy Japanese way.  More prone to understeer if you've got your foot on the gas.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 11, 2009, 02:19:42 PM
I like the NWS's new icon for sleet.  It's cute and immediately identifiable.  MS should take notes.
Title: Re: Weather ... or not
Post by: random axe on December 12, 2009, 11:38:45 PM
Speaking of which, it's wind, freezing rain, and tickety-tickety sleet out there right now.  It's 33 F, but the wind has suddenly turned my room drafty and cold.  Meh.

And my car has developed a new tendency for the two front doors to freeze shut.  Probably a weatherstripping problem.  I'm going to try to cheat and just lube up the seals with silicone and see if that 'fixes' it.  Yesterday, it took me almost eight minutes to get into the damned car.  I could've gone in through the tailgate, but I was too stu