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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2010, 04:31:48 PM »
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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2010, 04:37:57 PM »
Part of the problem previously was that they just applied this kind of indefinite detention to whoever they felt that (A) they needed to and (B) they could get away with keeping in prison forever.  The only major protests have been from people who've figured out how much it costs taxpayers to build temporary prison-but-not-a-REAL-prison facilities and then housing these people there forever.

The SCOTUS ruling, from the sound of it, is so damned broad that seems to give the feds the power to detain anybody, for any reason they feel is pressing (as long as the excuse is protecting a community, to use the court's phrasing), for as long as they want.  WTF, mang.

The whole thing is way too vague and way too discretionary.  I'm a little disappoint in Obama for it, but it's in the nature of the Executive to see what it can get away with.  And you can't expect Congress to do crap to limit this stuff.  It's the job of the Supreme Court to limit exactly this kind of stuff.

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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2010, 04:47:23 PM »
Ridiculous. It would make more sense to give them life sentences in the first place and parole the ones they deem fit to release as they become ...less inclined to do what somebody thinks they might do, or at least as they become perceived to be less inclined.

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I'm a little disappoint in Obama for it, but it's in the nature of the Executive to see what it can get away with.

Yeah, I read this concept in some other recent ruling. I don't recall what it was at the moment, but supposedly that is the role of the Executive branch. I dunno. I remember Jimmy Carter pushing for the decriminalization of weed...
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Re: SCOTUS
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2010, 05:34:43 PM »
I didn't say the executive has to grasp for power.  It just naturally tends to.

Weirdly, they also announced today that SCOTUS ruled that life sentences for juveniles are cruel and unusual and hence no dice.  At least for offenses other than murder; the AP article I saw wasn't clear if it's OK for homicides.  They apparently felt that it's not so much the length of the sentence as the ineligibility for parole.

Kind of an odd bookend.  Makes me wonder what they think about juvenile sex offenders.  :shrug: