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Re: NBA
« Reply #345 on: July 03, 2018, 12:45:11 AM »
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Re: NBA
« Reply #346 on: July 03, 2018, 10:23:22 AM »
Now DeMarcus "Boogie" Cousins has joined the Warriors for about a third of what he probably could have gotten for another team.

Cousins was often said to currently be the best center in the league, and then he injured his achilles tendon.  The charitable cynics are saying that maybe he wouldn't be able to play much this coming year, and so he's joining the Warriors on the cheap to (A) rehab on a team that doesn't need him and (B) pick up a championship ring without having to do anything to get it. 

I dunno.  If you think championship rings are a really big deal, then that either makes sense or is profoundly scummy.  Of course, he might be able to play at, say, 90% this upcoming season, in which case . . . the Warriors still really really don't need him.

The Warriors won approximately all the games last year, due to already being absurdly overloaded.  They now have a theoretical starting lineup of five of the top eight players in the league, depending on who's ranking them.  Sports Illustrated seems to think it's more like only five out of the top twenty, but basically the Warriors are the All-Star Team, and many in the press, the fans, and even the other players in the league are complaining that next season will be pointless.  :lol:

I don't think the situation is quite that bad, and you gotta wait and see, but a couple of obvious strategies have been discussed on the internets and, no doubt, in team offices.

For instance, other teams could intentionally try to injure the Warriors' star players.  Grim but obvious.

For that matter, other teams could intentionally make games against the Warriors horrible to watch.  Foul constantly, bench major players, play wrong or crazy or stupid, lose on purpose.  If the Warriors are going to win anyway, make it truly pointless and hurt their revenue.  The league can't let parity dwindle too much, or it gets to Globetrotters territory.

The players' union is also pissed off because superstars aren't supposed to take deals way under market.  I'm not sure how I feel about that, myself.

I do find the situation kind of amusing because it makes life harder for the LeBrakers.  I have no idea how this will affect their chances of getting another big star to play alongside LeBron.  On the one hand, there isn't much point in anyone going to the Lakers just because they want to win, now, because they probably won't.  Certainly they don't need to go out there cheap, because they can't out-cheap Cousins' move to the Warriors.

On the other hand, maybe the Spurs or whoever figure to hell with it, what does it matter, and trade a big star to whomever for whatever.

Meanwhile, the New Orleans Basketball Team got screwed the worst, as Cousins dumped them for the Warriors right after Rondo, their star point guard, went to the Lakers to play with his former enemy, LeBron.

Personally, I don't take the playoffs seriously, and my lifetime team (the Celtics) (A) won't play the Warriors often during the regular season and (B) are set up to be good for like a decade, whereas the Warriors are on track to mostly likely decline around the same time that LeBron and Harden decline.  And I'm glad the Celtics didn't make a trade for Cousins.

So, you know.  :popcorn:  With extra salt.

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« Reply #347 on: July 05, 2018, 01:22:27 AM »
Boogie is doing what he needs to do.  He'll get plenty of TV time now that he's on the Warriors.  He'll show everyone he can be a team player.  He'll get a ring.  He'll have fun.  Then he'll get picked up the next year and get a multi-year contract worth big money, probably Eastern Conference where he can dominate and play for another championship against the Warriors.  I'm sorry to see JaVale go though.  He's my favorite.  Ian and I went to his JugLife charity softball game on June 23 and had a blast.
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« Reply #348 on: July 05, 2018, 09:34:26 AM »
Yeah, I don't see any reason Cousins shouldn't make this move.  And I'm not among those mad at Durant for his move West, either.

I remain unimpressed with how LeBron does these things.  His move to the Lakers is fine, but allegedly he did it without talking to them much (unless he did so illegally before it was allowed, although, honestly, those rules are pretty dumb). 

Reports say he hasn't spoken to the coach yet.  His defenders were like He announced the move and went on vacation!  What do you expect him to do, delay his vacation?  Which, for what he gets paid, yes, I would expect him to at least make a phone call first.

Of course, many people say LeBron doesn't listen to coaches, and there are (of course) already rumors that he may have Walton dumped so he can install someone more pliable.  But maybe that's in the past.  The Lakers are not the Cavaliers; Jeanie Buss is not Dan Gilbert.  I would be happy to believe that LeBron is ready to settle down and try things someone else's way.  And you can't really blame him for a heavy-handed approach in Cleveland; you can only criticize how well it worked.

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« Reply #349 on: July 06, 2018, 12:59:12 AM »
If he gets Walton fired, he probably won't even make the playoffs.  Sure he can play 48 minutes and get to the playoffs in the East, but it's not going to work that way having to play the majority of the games against West opponents.  He pulls that shit and they'll probably end up in 10th or worse.
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« Reply #350 on: July 07, 2018, 09:47:30 AM »
I know, right?  Probably.

I'm way more curious how this works out than I was when he went to Miami or back to Cleveland.  Him playing alongside Rondo makes it even more interesting.  People have been joking that LeBron will get Wade to go to LA, but . . . there's kind of some bad blood between Rondo and Wade.

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« Reply #351 on: April 25, 2019, 10:00:33 PM »
OH shit people. John Havlicek was ... 79? WHAT THE HELL. HOW THE HELL OLD IS BILL RUSSELL? 85? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK AAAAAAAAAA
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« Reply #352 on: April 26, 2019, 02:05:50 PM »
Yep.
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« Reply #353 on: May 01, 2019, 11:10:43 PM »
So scrolling back a bit, it looks like LeBron didn't get Walton fired directly, but Walton got fired. hMM
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Re: NBA
« Reply #354 on: May 02, 2019, 09:53:44 AM »
It's nothing new, but there are a bunch of transcendant players in the league right now who . . . I'd really prefer not to have on my team.  Even if it means winning fewer games.

LeBron, definitely.
Harden, maybe.
Westbrook, definitely.
Durant, most likely.
Kawhi, probably.
Kyrie Irving, probably, which is unfortunate because he is on my team.

There are some others, but I have a bad cold and all the cold medicines right now.  But these guys, man.  Too crazy, too distorting.  Not what I'm looking for, as a fan.

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« Reply #355 on: May 02, 2019, 12:24:58 PM »
With Durant I'd be OK with him staying or moving on.  I really hope we bring Boogie back though.  I love watching him play and think he's a great fit with Steph, Klay, Dray, and Iggy.
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« Reply #356 on: May 03, 2019, 12:15:21 PM »
So scrolling back a bit, it looks like LeBron didn't get Walton fired directly, but Walton got fired. hMM

Annnnd it looks like the Lakers are going to hire Tyronn Lue, who seems to be best known as LeBron tolerant.
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« Reply #357 on: May 03, 2019, 02:49:59 PM »
I honestly have NO idea if Lue is a terrible coach or a decent one -- he's just sort of the coach that King James puts up with, yeah.  :shrug:

I don't know.  The whole thing is idiotic.  James has been through the Assembling A Superteam thing before.  Most of his money isn't made from his NBA salary but from endorsements.  The thing that slows superteams from forming is mostly the salary cap, so if you REALLY WANT CHAMPIONSHIPS you take a huge pay cut for a few years and get a couple of other superstars to do the same.  It's not a hardship to get ten million bucks a year for 2-3 years so you can collect a ring.  James is making like $36 million this year to miss the playoffs.  Hurrah.

BUT whatever.  Management and half the fans of my team want to trade our young, popular, promising players for Anthony Davis in the hopes that we can win another championship Real Soon.  I honestly don't get it.  This isn't the Hunger Games.  You don't GET anything just because they win.  If they traded the entire team roster for Golden State's entire roster, we'd win more games.  Would it still be the Celtics?  Why not save time and just root for the team most likely to win the championship?

I don't understand sports fans.  Or maybe I do.  Maybe they just root for the uniforms.

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« Reply #358 on: May 06, 2019, 01:35:38 PM »
Or they can get the Lakers to buy up all the maximum contracts and pay the luxury tax like Lacob has been doing.  Clippers put up a great showing against the Warriors in the playoffs and probably have half the salary since they got rid of all their big money contract guys.
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