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Re: Small Screen / Big Screen
« Reply #7350 on: April 17, 2018, 07:10:06 PM »
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Re: Small Screen / Big Screen
« Reply #7351 on: May 17, 2018, 04:22:43 PM »
I'm starting to wonder if I've ever seen a Spanish film or show that I really liked. I've tried to watch a few things on Netflix and was unimpressed. Is it some subconscious racial bias on my part? I feel like their entertainment industry must just be sub-par. I get a similar impression of Indian film, just judging from clips, I have never seen an actual Indian film that I am aware of. Is it ignorance on my part? Have I just not seen the good stuff?
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Re: Small Screen / Big Screen
« Reply #7352 on: May 17, 2018, 05:52:12 PM »
Guillermo del Toro is technically Mexican, although a number of his movies are set in Spain and are pretty darn good.  Pan's Labyrinth and The Orphanage both worked very well for me -- he produced the latter, which was directed by a Spaniard. 

The Spanish SF film Timecrimes is a little more divisive.  For me, it was one of those SF films where you know what you're getting, but rarely is it done as well. 

I liked Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!, and Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown, also by Almodóvar, is supposed to be good, although I haven't seen it yet.  Belle Epoque is a sexy / romantic / unlikely comedy of errors kind of thing.

There's a bugnuts SF film called The Baron vs the Demons that I want to see but haven't gotten a copy of yet.



In my experience, older Spanish films tend to be soap operas, crazy gory low-budget horror films, or historical-political surreal weirdnesses that are pretty strange to foreigners.  Newer Spanish films are sort of like South Korean films, dark but lovely, very pleasant to look at but maybe a little unsatisfying in the plot department.

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Re: Small Screen / Big Screen
« Reply #7353 on: May 17, 2018, 06:02:17 PM »
Indian films . . . there are like five culturally separate major film industries in India, and I don't really follow any of it.  A lot of Indian films are 'naive' by Western standards, meaning they're aimed at a naive audience, one not expecting sharp twists or irony or unhappy endings or so on.  Even films aimed at adults often feel sort of like kids' movies, as a result. 

Also, in a not unrelated way, they're usually in a 'vaudeville' style, meaning that they're broad and long and very varied -- a three-ring circus.  You gotta get your money's worth, and not everyone likes the same thing, so a movie tends to have a lot of movie in it.  Musical numbers in a superhero movie, yeah, that'll tend to happen.  Strong tendencies toward melodrama, sentimentality, yadda yadda.  Also strong tendencies toward imitating major Western films, so if an ET moment crops up oddly, you're not imagining it.

However, CGI is much cheaper in certain countries, and India's one of them, so you can expect LAVISH insane effects sequences like crazy.  Enthiran, about a sinister self-replicating robot . . . look it up on YouTube.  YouTube generally has about an hour of pieces of it, and it's pretty much an endless insane FX sequence that makes, say, I, Robot look like shit.  But the romance and musical numbers and preaching dialogue scenes and so on have been cut, which, to a Western audience, might be for the best.

India also produces many UTTERLY INSANE action films, and since they don't like showing people getting shot, etc, they like their kung fu.  I think Kerala is the region that makes the craziest ones, but if you want to see a long sequence in which a guy punches out thirty dudes or motorcycles or jumps from a moving Land Rover through a building to kick someone or defies gravity insultingly, etc, there you go.

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Re: Small Screen / Big Screen
« Reply #7354 on: May 17, 2018, 06:49:29 PM »
The del Toro examples are good exceptions I hadn't thought of. I haven't heard of the others, and I'm sure my lack of exposure is a big part of the problem. Netflix (streaming) isn't the best place to find the cream of the crop, but I've enjoyed a lot of the other foreign films/series I have seen on there.

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Strong tendencies toward melodrama, sentimentality, yadda yadda.

See, that's how I see most Spanish cinema.

I noticed an anti-abortion message in the last two things I watched, and that put me off. Hopefully just a coincidence.

I'll have to do some research and see if I can find some better Spanish stuff on Netflix.
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Re: Small Screen / Big Screen
« Reply #7355 on: May 18, 2018, 12:46:50 AM »
I was going to bring up Time Crimes, but I couldn't remember if it was Spanish or Italian.

Such a great movie.
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Re: Small Screen / Big Screen
« Reply #7356 on: May 20, 2018, 01:43:21 AM »
I really like Almodovar movies and my favorite is probably All About My Mother.  Another favorite is Dia De La Bestia
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